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cornelboy:
Paul was just making a comparison. Jesus isn't literally Adam.
Adam died and decayed. Jesus died too but was raised up.

You have to be open hearted about this. You can't sensualize what is spiritual. I pray you get this.

1Cor.15.45 - And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Janosky:
ALL this nah WAILING
In your own Bible did the Corinthian brethren teach that Jesus did not resurrect?
In your own Bible, did Thomas believe that Jesus Christ resurrect until Jesus persuaded him?
Did Samuel the prophet give a FALSE anointing in your Bible?
Just as Thomas adjusted his beliefs about Jesus resurrection, JWs have readjusted to conform with JEHOVAH'S standards as the Corinthian brethren readjusted themselves, 2 Corinthians 13:9,11.
Till tomorrow,Pastor kumuyi your 3 deities anointed is still doing reforms.
Your gods of men are still mishearing from your 3 deities.
Make una continue WAILING about JWs.

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

in these end times you false jw's are loving to lie and blaspheme etc. even more than before, of course

u loving always to lie and blaspheme The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit of the Bible
calling Them 3 deities which means 3 gods

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

lost false jw mad maxindhouse

you have posted me many times to tell me
i post to you too much, gee you dum, aren't you

Janosky:
Genesis 6:3 God says "man is flesh."
Is it so in your Bible?

Do you realise that Jesus Christ came to die to restore the Glory of God to man?
Is God flesh?

God is Spirit and He created Adam (Man) in His image and likeness. What do you think that means?

He moulded a flesh ro inhabit the earth as him and breathed himself (spirit) inside the flesh. It is not the flesh that makes Adam the image and likeness of God but the Spirit.

God is not flesh.

cornelboy:
Lol you sabi act sha

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost false jw cornyboy

all you people mostly do is laugh insanely
at your not funny gibberish

so dum you are

Myer:
You have to be open hearted about this. You can't sensualize what is spiritual. I pray you get this.

1Cor.15.45 - And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Lol

cornelboy:
So if we do not admit to your truth and we reply with gibberish, why are you following us everywhere. And what's your concern about what I said about achorladey and Emusan?

lost false jw boy

oh duh so dum, my post was showing up your confusion,
and i like to show up a little of false jw's lies and confusion
and paranoia etc.etc.etc. and don't you people cry greatly over being exposed
saying: "why are you posting to me" so funny, you scardy cats

Myer:
John.3.5 - Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
John.3.6 - That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Here Jesus explicitly let us know that we are flesh and spirit once we are born again.

BORN AGAIN is another topic entirely!

No human is born of spirit right from the time of Adam till the day of Pentecost.

All humans have the breath of life which was actuated by God's active force (holy spirit) from the beginning and at death the ability to restore that force lies with God {Ecclesiastes 12:7} meanwhile both man and animals have the same actuating force that's keeping us alive it doesn't mean this force represents us at death.
To illustrate: Electricity makes all electrical appliances and electronics work but once it's disconnected the devices are dead the same is what happens to both man and beast.

BORN AGAIN means those selected among humans for immortality directly they will also die like all other creatures but during their own resurrection they won't return to flesh {1 Thessalonians 4:16-17} such ones won't pass through the final test from Satan! Revelations 20:5-6

Nicodemus was one of those hoping to rule with the Christ so Jesus is telling the Jewish man what he needs to become part of the ruling class that he so much cherish but as for all other faithful servants of God they don't need to be born of that same spirit before they can gain everlasting life all what they need is to obey the Christ as Lord and they will be approved to live in Paradise on Earth! Luke 23:43

MaxInDHouse:
BORN AGAIN is another topic entirely!

No human is born of spirit right from the time of Adam till the day of Pentecost.

All humans have the breath of life which was actuated by God's active force (holy spirit) from the beginning and at death the ability to restore that force lies with God {Ecclesiastes 12:7} meanwhile both man and animals have the same actuating force that's keeping us alive it doesn't mean this force represents us at death.
To illustrate: Electricity makes all electrical appliances and electronics work but once it's disconnected the devices are dead the same is what happens to both man and beast.

BORN AGAIN means those selected among humans for immortality directly they will also die like all other creatures but during their own resurrection they won't return to flesh {1 Thessalonians 4:16-17} such ones won't pass through the final test from Satan! Revelations 20:5-6

Nicodemus was one of those hoping to rule with the Christ so Jesus is telling the Jewish man what he needs to become part of the ruling class that he so much cherish but as for all other faithful servants of God they don't need to be born of that same spirit before they can gain everlasting life all what they need is to obey the Christ as Lord and they will be approved to live in Paradise on Earth! Luke 23:43

You cannot put new wine into old wine skin.
If you are ready to know the Holy Spirit better, you will have to stop regurgitating what your organisation taught you about the Spirit they do not even believe.

Your organisation does not even believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit especially Speaking in tongues and prophecy.

If indeed you are okay with what your organisation has taught you, no problem.
But if you want to learn from God Himself, expose yourself to the teachings of Teacher. Ask the Holy spirit Himself to teach you.
He will be the one to lead you to the place you will learn of him afresh.

John.14.26 - But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

Myer:
You're right. That is why Jesus Christ is called the second Adam. The Spirit was restored.

Ọmọ we appreciate the fact that you read your Bible but the understanding is never given to anyone who sits alone to read it Jesus is the one who guides those that's teaching others so he doesn't teach any single person to become a scriptural teacher rather he always teach people in groups. Matthew 18:20

So if you truly want to gain insight you must sit with two or more individuals who also love God's word that is what will invite God's Active Force {Ecclesiastes 4:9, 12 compare to Malachi 3:16} to guide the group into all truth! John 16:12-13

Adam totally differs from Jesus, the first was made from the dust {Genesis 3:19} while the second has always been with God right from the beginning of creation! Colossians 1:15

The comparison Paul was making is that Adam supposed to be our father as the first human and all mankind would have revere him till today had it been he remain obedient to God but due to his disobedience he passed death unto all his descendants {Romans 5:12} Jesus who is a spirit before came to right the wrong so he now becomes our father and counselor who will last forever! Isaiah 9:6

Myer:
You cannot put new wine into old wine skin.
If you are ready to know the Holy Spirit better, you will have to stop regurgitating what your organisation taught you about the Spirit they do not even believe.

Do you think i've ever had any interest in books called Holy?
Never!
It is Jehovah's Witnesses that convinced me that there is God's word with the way they conduct themselves orderly and we'll organized. John 17:22

So if you want me to consider whatever you want to say about the book (Bible) you have to present the group or organization that's using it to benefit themselves! Isaiah 48:17-18 compare to Matthew 7:16-18

In the absence of that ọmọ you're just an unbeliever to me!

cornelboy:
Lol you sabi act sha

lost false jw boy

much of the time, all you false jw's can come back with is your insane laughter
at the gibberish that you say, which isn't even funny, so dum

cornelboy:
Thank you.

cornelboy: Lol this is the third moniker
Na only you dé act three characters for Nairaland

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw boy

the multiple faces of false jw's,
sometimes wolves/lying/paranoid, and sometimes in sheeps clothing

cornelboy:
Wetin be you wahala na. Shey na you a dé follow talk?

He's just an old fool

MaxInDHouse:
He's just an old fool

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


oh duh cannot stop lying lost false jw mad max:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

and you are the one laughing insanely all over the place like a old fool:

MaxInDHouse:

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

cornelboy:
I was replying to both of your monikers that day at the same time (Emusan and achorladey).
I said "bye" to achorladey but continued to reply Emusan. You used your achorladey moniker to say I still replied you after saying goodbye. I didn't mind the first time. I went on to reply Emusan again and you repeated the same thing. You specifically said "my byes no dé finish" lol.
The only explanation is that you are the one running both monikers or else tell me how was my replying to Emusan the same as replying to you

Busted!

These are just your own delusions.

Now that you have a window of opportunity to confirm it. Why not take up the challenge?

The Bible you carry did not support false accusation reason why God says you should "Test all things; hold fast to that which is good." 1 Thess 5:21

Devil is the father of all false accusers reason why God doesn't want us to be his child, so he gave us that scripture.

So don't be a coward, since you are so sure of your delusion, then take up the challenge.

Yes! I'm strongly affirmed that I Emusan and Achorladey are not the same person.

So prove this statement wrong!

MaxInDHouse:
He's just an old fool

See him.

You claimed Holy Spirit told you, Emusan is the same person of Johnw47 & Olaadegbu.

Your brother accused Emusan again as the person of Achorladey.

Have you apologize for that lie?

Janosky:
Is holy spirit giving Sosthenes & Paul conflicting information?

No!

Did Holy Spirit give Russell and Rutherford conflict information?

Is the same ghost that taught your Trinitarian mentors Martin Luther/Charles Spurgeon that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael & did not teach you Emusan?

The same Jesus who taught Russell that He is God and need to be worshipped is the one who taught you that He is not God and doesn't need to be worshipped.

OPONU JaNosense

Aemmyjah:
No matter how peacock wan display
Wind go expose e Yansh
😂
Claiming deeper life and atheistic apostate
There are many things this guy is not telling us. One skeleton de e wardrobe. We don't care to know but he was kicked out from the organization. 👍

So you agree with your brothers that Emusan and Achorladey with Olaadegbu & Johnw47 are the same person, correct?

Myer:
Ok. Do you at least believe that man has a spirit?

Bible writers used the Hebrew word ruʹach or the Greek word pneuʹma when writing about the “spirit.” The Scriptures themselves indicate the meaning of those words. For instance, Psalm 104:29 states: “If you [Jehovah] take away their spirit [ruʹach], they die and return to the dust.” And James 2:26 notes that “the body without spirit [pneuʹma] is dead.” In these verses, then, “spirit” refers to that which gives life to a body. Without spirit, the body is dead. Therefore, in the Bible the word ruʹach is translated not only as “spirit” but also as “force,” or life-force. For example, concerning the Flood in Noah’s day, God said: “I am going to bring floodwaters upon the earth to destroy from under the heavens all flesh that has the breath [ruʹach] of life.” (Genesis 6:17; 7:15, 22) “Spirit” thus refers to an invisible force (the spark of life) that animates all living creatures.

A portable radio without any electrical or battery power source
The soul and the spirit are not the same. The body needs the spirit in much the same way as a radio needs electricity—in order to function. To illustrate this further, think of a portable radio. When you put batteries in a portable radio and turn it on, the electricity stored in the batteries brings the radio to life, so to speak. Without batteries, however, the radio is dead. So is another kind of radio when it is unplugged from an electric outlet. Similarly, the spirit is the force that brings our body to life. Also, like electricity, the spirit has no feeling and cannot think. It is an impersonal force. But without that spirit, or life-force, our bodies “die and return to the dust” as the psalmist stated.

Speaking about man’s death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 states: “The dust [of his body] returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.” When the spirit, or life-force, leaves the body, the body dies and returns to where it came from—the earth. Comparably, the life-force returns to where it came from—God. (Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9) This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone who dies, any hope of future life rests with Jehovah God. His life is in God’s hands, so to speak. Only by God’s power can the spirit, or life-force, be given back so that a person may live again.

Myer:
Thanks for the comprehensive reply. Truly appreciated.

1. I can assure you that JW is truly vastly knowledgeable when it comes to the Letter/Logos of the Word of God but unfortunately because you do not recognise the "Person" of the Holy Spirit but only see him as the "Force" of God, you cannot understand the Revelational Knowledge (Rhema) of the Word of God.
This makes your organisation practise rhe religion and not the life of Christ. Jesus and His disciples manifested the Fruit and Gifts of the Holy Spirit and the Love of God. That is what Christ-likeness is.

By referring to God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. (Exodus 15:8, 10) A craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, God’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it. (Luke 11:13) The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.—Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6.

The Bible gives the names of Jehovah God and of his Son, Jesus Christ; yet, nowhere does it name the holy spirit. (Isaiah 42:8; Luke 1:31) When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55) The holy spirit was God’s power in action, enabling Stephen to see the vision.

Misconception: You people think that The “Holy Ghost,” or holy spirit, is a person and is part of the Trinity, as stated at 1 John 5:7, 8 in the King James version of the Bible.

Fact: But The truth is that The King James version of the Bible includes at 1 John 5:7, 8 the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” However, researchers have found that those words were not written by the apostle John and so do not belong in the Bible. Professor Bruce M. Metzger wrote: “That these words are spurious and have no right to stand in the New Testament is certain.”—A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament.

Misconception:You people think that The Bible personifies the holy spirit, and this proves that it is a person.

Fact: But The truth is that The Scriptures do at times personify the holy spirit, but this does not prove that the holy spirit is a person. The Bible also personifies wisdom, death, and sin. (Proverbs 1:20; Romans 5:17, 21) For example, wisdom is said to have “works” and “children,” and sin is depicted as seducing, killing, and working out covetousness.—Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35; Romans 7:8, 11.

Similarly, when the apostle John quoted Jesus, he personified the holy spirit as a “helper” (paraclete) that would give evidence, guide, speak, hear, declare, glorify, and receive. He used masculine personal pronouns such as “he” or “him” when referring to that “helper.” (John 16:7-15) However, he did so because the Greek word for “helper” (pa·raʹkle·tos) is a masculine noun and requires a masculine pronoun according to the rules of Greek grammar. When John referred to the holy spirit using the neuter noun pneuʹma, he used the genderless pronoun “it.”—John 14:16, 17.

Misconception: You people think that Baptism in the name of the holy spirit proves that it is a person.

Fact: But The truth is that The Bible sometimes uses “name” to stand for power or authority. (Deuteronomy 18:5, 19-22; Esther 8:10) This is similar to its use in the English expression “in the name of the law,” which does not mean that the law is a person. A person who is baptized “in the name of” the holy spirit recognizes the power and role of the holy spirit in accomplishing God’s will.—Matthew 28:19.

Oteneaaron (Courz) is following secretly just to know exactly when he should come into the discussion.
Meanwhile both Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit means delusion to him yet he wants to speak against Jehovah's Witnesses for believing even though others also believe he's not bothered only Jehovah's Witnesses are his problem!

Emusan:
So you agree with your brothers that Emusan and Achorladey with Olaadegbu & Johnw47 are the same person, correct?

They are still living in the realms of their lies and manipulations

MaxInDHouse:
Oteneaaron (Courz) is following secretly just to know exactly when he should come into the discussion.
Meanwhile both Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit means delusion to him yet he wants to speak against Jehovah's Witnesses for believing even though others also believe he's not bothered only Jehovah's Witnesses are his problem!

What oteneaaron does here is under the jurisdiction of your lies and manipulations peddling to decide

Emusan:
No!

Did Holy Spirit give Russell and Rutherford conflict information?



The same Jesus who taught Russell that He is God and need to be worshipped is the one who taught you that He is not God and doesn't need to be worshipped.

OPONU JaNosense

The mumu and no get sense peddling of that one no go end in the nearest future

Emusan:
See him.

You claimed Holy Spirit told you, Emusan is the same person of Johnw47 & Olaadegbu.

Your brother accused Emusan again as the person of Achorladey.

Have you apologize for that lie?

They are hooked on that lie and manipulations. They have to keep peddling it to save their manipulated and lying brains

Prosper1912:
By referring to God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. (Exodus 15:8, 10) A craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, God’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it. (Luke 11:13) The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.—Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6.

The Bible gives the names of Jehovah God and of his Son, Jesus Christ; yet, nowhere does it name the holy spirit. (Isaiah 42:8; Luke 1:31) When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55) The holy spirit was God’s power in action, enabling Stephen to see the vision.

Misconception: You people think that The “Holy Ghost,” or holy spirit, is a person and is part of the Trinity, as stated at 1 John 5:7, 8 in the King James version of the Bible.

Fact: But The truth is that The King James version of the Bible includes at 1 John 5:7, 8 the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” However, researchers have found that those words were not written by the apostle John and so do not belong in the Bible. Professor Bruce M. Metzger wrote: “That these words are spurious and have no right to stand in the New Testament is certain.”—A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament.

Misconception:You people think that The Bible personifies the holy spirit, and this proves that it is a person.

Fact: But The truth is that The Scriptures do at times personify the holy spirit, but this does not prove that the holy spirit is a person. The Bible also personifies wisdom, death, and sin. (Proverbs 1:20; Romans 5:17, 21) For example, wisdom is said to have “works” and “children,” and sin is depicted as seducing, killing, and working out covetousness.—Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35; Romans 7:8, 11.

Similarly, when the apostle John quoted Jesus, he personified the holy spirit as a “helper” (paraclete) that would give evidence, guide, speak, hear, declare, glorify, and receive. He used masculine personal pronouns such as “he” or “him” when referring to that “helper.” (John 16:7-15) However, he did so because the Greek word for “helper” (pa·raʹkle·tos) is a masculine noun and requires a masculine pronoun according to the rules of Greek grammar. When John referred to the holy spirit using the neuter noun pneuʹma, he used the genderless pronoun “it.”—John 14:16, 17.

Misconception: You people think that Baptism in the name of the holy spirit proves that it is a person.

Fact: But The truth is that The Bible sometimes uses “name” to stand for power or authority. (Deuteronomy 18:5, 19-22; Esther 8:10) This is similar to its use in the English expression “in the name of the law,” which does not mean that the law is a person. A person who is baptized “in the name of” the holy spirit recognizes the power and role of the holy spirit in accomplishing God’s will.—Matthew 28:19.

PARROTING as usual

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think i've ever had any interest in books called Holy?
Never!
It is Jehovah's Witnesses that convinced me that there is God's word with the way they conduct themselves orderly and we'll organized. John 17:22

So if you want me to consider whatever you want to say about the book (Bible) you have to present the group or organization that's using it to benefit themselves! Isaiah 48:17-18 compare to Matthew 7:16-18

In the absence of that ọmọ you're just an unbeliever to me!

Do you think i've ever had any interest in books called Holy?

Your insanities and madness peddling won't recall your devotion to Holy quran.

Liar and manipulator

cornelboy:
Challenge wey no go bring money a no dé do

Keeps propagating lies and manipulations packed into your brains

achorladey:
Your insanities and madness peddling won't recall your devotion to Holy quran.
Liar and manipulator

Ọ̀DẸ̀!

Have you ever seen me commenting and reciting the Quran the same way i'm quoting the Bible?
I was never the religious type until Jehovah's Witnesses proved to me that God surely have a people doing His will!

Aemmyjah:
English has failed some people

So says hatred peddling peddler