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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by HISSCRIBE1995: 11:08pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Janosky: If it concerns no body (among men) does it concern the God you worship? If the God you claim to worship has no problem with your listening to a secular song(some of which are sang by occultsts, and even glorified women, money, fame, sex, cars, houses alcohol, weed, violent. etcetera) , then how much more a song that Brings glory to his name even though the singer might not be a Jehovah's witness members. Think about this sir without sentiment (for the salvation of your own soul) 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by HISSCRIBE1995: 11:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
maximunimpact: It's an irony sir. The reason for not celebrating birthday is because it could lead to sin according to their beliefs, but the Bible said we should numbers our days. Is it the day itself that would lead to sin or the people living the day or the celebration that would lead to sin or the things done during the day? Like drinking alcohol. Which of these can lead one to sin? Day,.man, ceremony or a thing like alcohol? Don't they celebrate wedding ceremonies? Don't they celebrate promotion at work? 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:20pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995: Bros, I told you before and I will repeat again, go and research "Comma Johanneum." Just help yourself & shine your eyes. Your Bible says "there are three that bear witness" Nasb lexicon is authentic 1 John 5:7. Also, both screenshots evidences below are very authentic. This other rendition is man made forgery: [b]in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. .[/b] 1 Like
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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by haddeylium(m): 11:26pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995: Do you also listen to JWs songs? If you don't, I don't think it should be an issue when JWs don't listen to the church music you agitating for. Personally, I don't listen to Gospel music often which lyrics are based on unscriptural beliefs. |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:33pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995: JW is a cult not a church They hate Jesus the same way Satan hate Jesus All cult hate the name Jesus 17 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by HISSCRIBE1995: 11:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
They don't believe in the holy spirit as a person, They claimed the word is "IT" (instead of "HE" )claimed the holy spirit was a or is a force (correct me please if I am wrong) . However christ himself talking about the Holy Spirit said John 16:13-15 [13]However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. [14]He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. [15]All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you. Christ called him "HE" he didn't call it "IT". But if you have "HE" translated in your bible as "IT" What will be your excuse for doing that? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by HISSCRIBE1995: 11:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
They don't believe in existence of human spirit nor believe in hell. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by HISSCRIBE1995: 11:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Janosky: Were you called by God to live a Jewish life (traditions of men) or the life of the son of God? Galatians 2:20 [20]I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. Was It alcohol that christ turned water to or was it wine? Which of the two is it? (you might want to say alcoholic wine ) 8 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by maximunimpact(m): 11:35pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
Janosky: You are free to drink as much as you like, your choice What do you have to say about this from your watchtower publication: “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:36pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995:Did the Jehovah's servants who said number your days celebrate his own birthday? Can you see that you misquote the holy scriptures? Look at this illustration: When your father tells you that criminals practice hedonistic lifestyle. The question is: Does your father approve of criminals? Does your father approve of hedonistic lifestyle? That is the import of Jehovah's message @Matthew 14:6 about birthdays. Bros,2 Corinthians 6:14 & Romans 15:4, do you understand that message ? Matthew 14:6 Jesus knows king Herod celebrated annual birthdays, why did Jesus not celebrate his? Matthew 28:20, is birthday celebrations Jesus command to you? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:52pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
maximunimpact:Galatians 1:1, Paul was inspired. 1 Corinthians 13:9, was Paul's knowledge perfect? 2 Samuel 16:6, Samuel made a false prediction. 2 Samuel 7:2-3, did Jehovah tell King David "do whatever your heart pleases"? Is 2 Samuel 7:3-4, Jehovah's message to King David? Luke 24:21, who made that false prediction? Luke 24:25, what did Jesus call them? Maximumimpact, your claims spring from your own false reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:32am On Jul 21, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995: Good morning Sir! Your questions are two. ©Difference in beliefs ©Choice of entertainment Many people don't see any need to be different since they are seeing the people around them as members of the human race. In the Bible the same thing is what happened back then, the God of Abraham demanded that His own people must be separate from all others {Exodus 19:3-5} but it was so difficult for this people to see reasons with their God so all the promises of God for them did not come true as expected because they always feel like following the customs and traditions of surrounding nations. Before God established a New Covenant with selected Jews in the first century Jesus made a lot of promises to this few in number group. He told them the true God will send an helper (Holy Spirit) to come and dwell with them forever if only they'll stick to the instructions he wants to give them. That is the similarity between God's promise in connection with the covenant the Israelites break before God now sent Jesus to establish another Covenant! Jeremiah 31:31-34 This New Covenant will come with a sign in the first century, the first set of Israelites that entered into this New Covenant will be noticed by that sign {Joel 2:28-30} so after Jesus' departure the Holy Spirit came as promised and the sign followed just as prophet Joel foretold {Act 2:1-3} but did God's people got the sense of what's happening in their midst? Sadly not! Act 2:12-13 So Peter one of the beneficiaries of the New Covenant seized that opportunity to remind the Jews what God promised their forefathers in respect of the New Covenant {Act 2:16-18} when this people came to their senses they were touched to the heart {Act 2:37} instantly Peter told them that this promise is for their nation but only those that believe in the teachings of one certain man called Jesus who was actually the teacher of this beneficiaries can also benefit from what they're seeing {Act 2:38-40} many Jews that day acted upon what Peter told them and instantly God's Holy Spirit began working in them just like their fellow Jews who first accepted Jesus' teachings. But what has all these got to do with the promises Jesus made with his followers and future generations that will accept Christianity? I'll continue in the next post. Once again good morning Sir, God bless you and may you have PEACE! |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36am On Jul 21, 2021 |
Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant so just as God spoke to the Israelites and promised them so many things the same also happened, God spoke to Christians through Jesus about lots of good things they will experience in their midst if they continue doing the things Jesus taught them. ©There will be this undeniable LOVE in their gathering as a sign {John 13:34-35} that God whose predominant attribute is love dwells among them! 1John 4:8 ©Throughout the whole earth Jesus' followers will have the same line of thought regarding right and wrong! John 17:20-23 ©Due to their oneness in thought it will be so difficult for Satan who is using subtle means like racism and politics to cause a division among them so amongst Jesus' true followers there will always be peace! John 14:26-27 ©Their faith will be so strong that each of them will take Jesus' command to go and make disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} paramount in their lives! Act 1:8 ©All the qualities of God's Holy Spirit (fruit)will be permeating their gathering even though they're imperfect! Matthew 7:16-18 compare to Galatians 5:22-23 All these promises surely came through in the first century but after all the pioneers of Christianity in the first century fell asleep in death Satan seized that opportunity to bring in his own ideas! Matthew 13:25 And so Jesus' words came to fulfilment that Satan will use his crafty skills to confuse Jesus' disciples so by the time Jesus returns to check how far his earthly followers are doing the faith he taught them will have faded away completely! Luke 18:8 But Jesus also foretold that when things fall apart and Christianity has been devastated a faithful and discreet slave will emerge, this slave will later reassemble all faithful people throughout the earth so that true Christianity will be restored back to glory, then all what Jesus promised as signs that God is in the midst of His people will be noticed in the gathering of true Christians! Matthew 24:45 Before America declared freedom of speech expression and worship it was difficult for any group of people to organize themselves and start practicing what Jesus laid down because the few sects claiming Christians back then fought lots of wars and shed blood of innocent souls before they could be allowed to start operating as religious groups. Satan planned this because he knew that Jesus don't want his followers to lead by force or use of weapons {Matthew 26:52} so Satan laid the precedence that before any religion could be allowed to stand they must shed blood in order to break Jesus' rule and thereby loose the favour of God's Holy Spirit! |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40am On Jul 21, 2021 |
So when America declared freedom of worship the door was opened for researchers to find out why are all the promises of God in connection with the Holy Spirit is not evident in Christianity? That's how many religious sects began and spreading throughout the earth otherwise none of you people today can be a Christian unless you're a member of the few religious sects claiming Christians back then! The religious sects springing from place to place weren't after what Jesus promised rather all what majority of them wanted is to gain prominence by multiplying centers of worship and increasing members. The command given to Jesus' disciples to go out preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood wasn't emphasized so the LOVE, JOY and PEACE that's supposed to serve as mark of true Christianity is still missing! That's why Jehovah's Witnesses kept working round the clock to find out how the qualities of God's Holy Spirit will be restored back in our midst. Most people noticed that we often make amendments in our views of things, many takes offences saying "they can't claim they have holy spirit and always changing their beliefs" but we see the changes as corrections that Jesus his using God's holy spirit to make in our gathering. So far so good the one and only group on this planet having the nine qualities of God's Holy Spirit permeating their gathering is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Galatians 5:22-23 One thing most people don't understand about Paul's letter to the Christians in Galatia is how he listed all the works of the flesh that God will not permit in His Kingdom {Galatians 5:19-21} but since we are flesh there is no gathering of people where you will not find the works of the flesh in each member, even Paul himself said he has the ones he was battling with throughout his life {Romans 7:17-24} so no human can break free completely from the works of the flesh, we will continue to fight it until God's Kingdom come to assist us. But then how can we RECOGNIZE the gathering of true Christians if the works of the flesh can't be totally blotted out? Well God's Holy Spirit will be working in the midst of humble and faithful people who are prepared to make amendments in their lives so if you carefully observe each of them you will notice the work of flesh each of them is battling but as a group you will SEE LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL permeating the gathering of God's people! Galatians 5:22-23 This are the qualities everyone around the world including you can SEE in our gathering {Matthew 5:13-16} before you start wondering why are they trying to separate themselves from others? Why are they not proud to be called Christians but Jehovah's Witnesses? Why aren't they moved by music that all of us considered as gospel (spirit filled) songs? Well it's because we are no part of you people {John 15:19} as for what we see as righteous and unrighteous please do not bother yourself because our own righteousness is from our own God {Isaiah 54:17} the music you people called gospel can't go in line with our faith so we prefer secular music for entertainment but if we want to be in the spirit we have our own spirit filled songs composed by born again Christians in our midst. Thank you and may you have PEACE! 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by maximunimpact(m): 7:17am On Jul 21, 2021 |
Janosky: I stand with this “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). You can't be JWs more than governing body 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by maximunimpact(m): 7:19am On Jul 21, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You can't be JWs more than your governing body, they have said it all below “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30am On Jul 21, 2021 |
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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by HISSCRIBE1995: 7:37pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
If God is making corrections in your gatherings then who is making the mistakes? 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:25pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 HISSCRIBE1995: |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 9:38pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995: Added to this is they thinking God cannot make correction in other Christian denominations because they are the only religious ORGANIZATION God has dealings with 5 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
NO you're getting them wrong! What they're simply saying is their GB is their God's mouthpiece so if you're not ready to take instructions from their GB there's no need worrying yourself go and worship your own God their God can't be worshiped without their GB leading. So if you say they're worshiping their GB they're OK with it as long as you're not ready to submit to the orders of their GB you're not a worshiper of their God. Period! achorladey: |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:16pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
maximunimpact: Maximumimpact ,'Christian' who worships Jesus, says he can't stand with the words of Jesus @Luke 24:21,25 , & the inspired writings @ 2 Samuel 7:3-4, 1 Samuel 16:6, 1 Corinthians 15:12. Bros, the evidences in your own Bible is telling everyone that you, Maximumimpact are a bigot. Objectivity is far from you. 2 Samuel 16:6, Samuel made a false prediction. 2 Samuel 7:2-3, did Jehovah tell King David "do whatever your heart pleases"? Is 2 Samuel 7:3-4, Jehovah's message to King David? Luke 24:21, who made that false prediction? Luke 24:25, what did Jesus call them? 1 Corinthians 15:12, some believers taught & believed a false doctrine. Luke 24:21,25 ,2 Samuel 7:3-4, 1 Samuel 16:6, 1 Corinthians 15:12, the mistakes recorded by servants of Jehovah in your Bible is the same you accused Jehovah's servants of doing. . |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:21pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
achorladey:Which mistake did your denomination correct ? Tithing? Trinity? Ordination of women? Clergy/laity dichotomy? Achorladey Come and name the mistakes your Church denomination has corrected. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:38pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995:@ Matthew 28:20, "teaching them to obey all the things I have commanded you, Bros, is Christmas celebration Jesus command to you? @ Matthew 28:20, Bros are you living the life of the son of God? Bros, did Jesus Christ condemn alcohol? |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:40pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Kingsnairaland:Grand DELUSION of a Polytheist.
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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Janosky: 11:44pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
HISSCRIBE1995:John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5,12, Jesus Christ teaching about his God is scriptural truth. That scriptural truth @ John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5,12 is a theory to a Polytheist.
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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by maximunimpact(m): 11:46pm On Jul 24, 2021 |
Janosky: It wasn't me that condemned wrong predictions, it's your governing body that wrote it Are you now saying your watchtower lied on the declaration below “Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ). 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 6:15pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Does your GB worship the God( you and I serve My YES) Moses had direct conversation with in Exodus 3:14? A. Yes B. NO C. C & C You get fingers to type NO to my post here abi? |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 6:17pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
Janosky: Which one mistake I tell you my church denomination made? |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
B achorladey: |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 6:27pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Thanks for selecting an option here. Well received. Your eyes don dey clear small small |
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:33pm On Jul 25, 2021 |
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