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| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by gragz8701: 9:14pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Obaofaba:Lol. The self acclaimed " developer " have absolutely nothing in common with Israelis/Jews. Much as they adore, worship and wishes to be like the Jews, they are the furthest in everything from the Jews, while the Fulanis are the closest. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by damtem3264(m): 9:15pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Am pretty sure some people do think with their yansh,,for the fact that Israel wanted peace and allow hamas to surjorn in Gaza does not mean Israel can't defeat them, have you even asked yourself the reason why Israel and Egypt blockaded Gaza? |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by okoroemeka(m): 9:16pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Akwamkpuruamu:nobody has total ciaim over the whole region, different tribes were living together until Islam came and conquered Jerusalem in the year 635,most tribes converted to Islam but the Jews been very conservative retained their Judaism traditions,in 1095 pope urban declared a holy crusade to take back Jerusalem from the muslims,I'm 1099 the first Christian crusaders succeeded in capturing Jerusalem and massacred every human being in the city Muslims and jews alike,the remaining Jews fled and scattered all over Europe until the genocides and gas Chambers of second world war forced them to go back to their Homeland in 1948,the UN solution for a two state is the best idea and compromise which isreal agreed but Hamas refused,insisting on a delusion to wipe away isreal,the Jews have similar strong claims to the land as them,most Arab countries have seen the stupidity in trying to wipe away the Jews and they are planning for peace this current attack is just a plan to scuttle that peace |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by CJStarz: 9:20pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
See consolation 😃 HeeBraHim2: |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Petrallen: 9:21pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
geoworldedu:You're getting your wires crossed. I can't recall a specific event in the Old Testament where God commanded Israel to go and kill people because they are 'unbelievers' or that they refused to believe in YHWH - perhaps you can humor me. In the Bible, only two nations did God ask the Israelites to devote to utter destruction and it was never because they were infidels or kufirs - stop reading back Muhammad's agenda into the Bible. Regarding the Canaaninte nations, it was written: "It is NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but ON ACCOUNT OF THE WICKEDNESS of these nations, the Lord your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that the Lord your God is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people." Deut. 9:5-6 This point was drummed into the ears of the Israelites that the reason God asked them to take possession of Canaan is because the wickedness of these Canaanites have reached full measure. Now, what was their crime? Most of you guys did not bother to investigate the crimes of these guys. These are people who believe that it is moral for them to sacrifice their children in fire, sacrifice their fellow humans to their idols, commit bestiality, homosexuality, bad sexual practices and other forms of human abuse (are you even aware of the number of venereal diseases these guys are carrying especially in a world where medicine is not developed?). These kind of nations don't exist today because the God of Israel (whom you have a personal vendetta against) has wiped them out (through various means) in the past, replacing bestial civilizations with humane civilizations until it got to a time such these civilizations were eventually gone for good. However, at no point, EVER in the Bible, did God command that people be killed because they refused to believe or worship Him. For instance, consider passages like the following: Give the people these orders: ‘You are about to pass through the territory of your relatives the descendants of Esau, who live in Seir. They will be afraid of you, but be very careful. Do not provoke them to war, for I will not give you any of their land, not even enough to put your foot on. I have given Esau the hill country of Seir as his own. You are to pay them in silver for the food you eat and the water you drink.’” [Deut. 2:4-6] Then the Lord said to me, “Do not harass the Moabites or provoke them to war, for I will not give you any part of their land. I have given Ar to the descendants of Lot as a possession.” [Deut. 2:9] Does this look like a campaign against infidels? In fact, God warned the Israelites that if they too will be destroyed if they repeated the evil practices of the evil civilizations they were meant to dislodge. Over the centuries, the Bible unfolds the story of how the Israelites eventually imitated these evil practices such that Israelite kings began to burn their children in fire as sacrifice to dangerous gods. Did God spare Israel? No, being impartial, He tore Israel into two and sold them off piece by piece. The YHWH of the Bible does not believe that people should be killed because they refused to believe in Him or worship Him. He had men killed for good reasons because He is the Great Judge and so far in His dealings, He has always been impartial. Regarding the Amalekites that Saul was ordered to wipe out, we were told that the Amalekites were merciless raiders who attacked the Israeltes repeatedly in the wilderness and have always continued to do so. God ordered Saul to wipe out the Amalekites. You commended Saul for not wiping out the Amalekites. These very same Amalekites kidnapped David's men. Haman was a descendant of the Amalekites and he nearly succeeded in wiping out the Jews from the surface of the earth - thanks to God's intervention. So, stop comparing Muhammad's raids which are meant for his own selfish agendas with the wars against evil civilizations in the OT. No prophet in the scriptures ever ordered that men be killed or punished because they reject his/her prophethood. You might hate the Christian God, but know that all this dividends of modern civilization that you enjoy was as a result of what He did in the times past rooting out evil civilizations. If not, you too would have either been a victim of human sacrifice or being a perpetrator of such evil |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by SoNature(m): 9:25pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Shoodboi:Then, write yours! |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Truthshotcrazy: 9:28pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
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| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by CoolUsername: 9:37pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Programmer47:Your feeling is actually just a straight-up fact. It is absolutely true that Israel secretly funded Hamas during its inception because they wanted the jihadist group to overshadow other moderate or secular anti-zionist movements at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0?si=06fvRN7FCGcHeyIZ |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by kamtamark(m): 9:43pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
All the weapons that the Palestinian are using are surely from Afghanistan, left behind by USA. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by prophetfire: 10:02pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
HeeBraHim2:Sadly for you and your terrorists Hamas, Gaza is being deleted from the map of the middle East. Israel just won for themselves another settlement. By next year construction of houses for Jews will start in entire Gaza. Since foolish Hamas was foolish enough to start a war that would obliterate them. Iran deceived you people. Iran is calling on UN for cessation of battle but it's too late. Una go collect full dosage. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by geoworldedu: 10:03pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Petrallen:All these your stories doesn't justify or free your god from being guilty of supporting war rather than seeking peace through forgiveness and dialogue. Also this your god wasn't responsible for freeing the Chinese, Indians and Japanese from human sacrifice but civilisation did. I chose those countries because the percentage of Christianity in those countries are by far on the low for you to have credited the stoppage of human sacrifice to your god in those places. Also the Arab nations who don't get involved in human sacrifice were not taught to do so by your god. They have their own god Allah and I doubt if it's even Allah that stopped it for them but civilisation did. Another great thing civilization stopped was slave trading. This slave trading and slaving was totally supported by your god to the extent that he made laws and rules for slaves to obey rather than annulling slavery. As a matter of fact, the Christians in abundance kicked against ending slavery when rational civilised men began to make attempt to stop it. Muhammed's raids and Jehovah's raids are exactly the same. It is called LAND GRABBING and till date Israel is still engaging in these landgrabbing stuff, hence these whole Gaza brouhaha. You can't established your nation through war and endless quarrels and expect peace. This is also one big reason why most of these Muslim countries are not always peaceful, because Islam was established through war. Religion is just a scam. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Absuchat(m): 10:03pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Badassniggga:Maybe Biafra should borrow a leaf from Hamas |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Greatlee54: 10:04pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
HeeBraHim2:You are on your own |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Mozegee: 10:10pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Are you not ashame of scamming people in the name of begging. Can't you find something to do and stop all these rubbish. Preform: |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Raalsalghul: 10:18pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
okoroemeka:You are informed. Just what I was discussed with my colleagues: Christians, Jews and Muslims, no one has a legitimate claim to that land. It has been occupied by each at different points in history and ruled by different empires: Israelites, Neo-babylonian empire, Achaemenid, Hellenistic Kings of the Seleucid empire, Romans, Byzantine Romans, Seljurk Turks, The Crusaders formed by European Knights, Ottoman Turks etc I laugh when people foolishly call the Hamas terrorists though not surprised as Nigerians hardly know history. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Programmer47: 10:27pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
geoworldedu:Depends on what you call God. I don't refer to a "mythical figure in the sky". That's just Zeus using one of his pseudonyms. The true God whom I believe Jesus came to reveal , can only be known when one dies to his personality and simply becomes I am. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by geoworldedu: 10:31pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Programmer47:They are all the same thing. Like a millennium or two ago, one man was also saying this thing you are saying while his religion was the most famous and populated(that time Christianity is still like 5000 people worldwide). The man said and I quote, "The true God Jupiter whom I believe other gods came from can be well known after death." It's not new to think that your god is God while the rest are gods. Muslims too think that their god Allah is God, but it doesn't change anything. Even the Indians think that Vishnu and two others like that are the main Gods while other gods are small gods. It's normal. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Goddyrichie(m): 10:31pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Odewaleadesoye:on this thread u will see hw some stupid Africa man abusing/cursing each other even defending each other all because of religion and whiteman gods that they only read on books but they’re own gods here they call it evil cuz that’s what d white people told them are we all right at all |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by remzytimer: 10:36pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
By their names we shall know them, the supporters of evil, wait for it, that evil you have been nurturing in your heart, your mind go clear.... HeeBraHim2: |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Goodlady(f): 10:37pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Botragelad:You can see HeebraHim2 is a cow. He's a terrorist. He too should be among Hamas casualties. The mumu has forgotten the land Palestine is claiming belongs to Israel originally. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Ovacoma: 10:41pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
HeeBraHim2:Muslims are the one stealing everything good they see in other people. They stole the Jew's prophets, books, lands etc |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Goodlady(f): 10:42pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Badassniggga:Have you dugged the history of the land of Palestine and see if actually belonged to Israel or not? Was their no Arab invasion that made Israel lose her territory in the past? Is what Israel doing on present times not justifiable as a means of taking back her lands? And if you say Hamas is a resistance group, no problem. Israel is a sanitizing nation sanitizing it's territory to be rid of terrorists like you, Hamas and other janjaweêds in the middle east. When muslims kill, they ll justify it. So let Israel justify this Hamas too. Anyone that's not satisfied can join the battle. It's now an eye for and eye and the strongest won't be blind. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Badassniggga(m): 11:05pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Goodlady:Somehow this føol automatically believes I'm a Muslim or terrorist. Your headache tho. It's late already, your husband needs your mouth around his cock. Go fvck him and get out of here with your emotional politics. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Goodlady(f): 11:12pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Badassniggga:Bloody misogynist! If you aren't a muslim, you are a bloody jihadist sympathiser. You ll encounter police brutality this week, amen! |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by tollyboy5(m): 11:23pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Johncuppa:We have our version too from our own book. God gave the same land to palestine. ![]() |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Just4000: 11:24pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
Well bruv, let me start by saying that using your phone to research is one thing, but making an accurate research and obtaining the right information is another. Let me take your point as you itemized them, though many of your point are not completely rational but I would try to get what you are trying say. 1. Israel never caged Palestine, by the truce of 1948, two states where created (Is real & Palestine). But the Palestine and Arab world at that time refused and resisted the existence Israel among them which caused Arab war by then and Israel won. This resulted to Israel occupying more territory than the initial agreement( this is common with war over territory, just like the case of Armenian that happened recently, land will be conceded in most cases. In this Ukraine war, if Russia should win, Ukraine will definitely be conceding some of her territories). Despite, Israel proving to be more powerful over and over again. They were willing to sit at the table of discussion for a lasting solution. But the Hamas and other terrorist groups refused any form of peace talk. We have the recent Arab league brokered in the UAE and even the Egypt agreement of which Israel have always kept to their own terms just for peace to reign. Now for your statement that Palestinian were the original settlers. That's a lie and we both know it but you may want to tell yourself what you feel you are OK with. Israel has undisputable historical fact and evidence to show that majority of the land they occupy were originally theirs. However, it's a lot more complex than just coming to claim their land, they were exiled by Roman empire, they fled and other people took over, living there for generations so it difficult to tell someone whose great grand father bequeathed a land to, that the land is no longer their" though the truth is that the land was never theirs". Just like Nigeria engaging say Biafra in a war, defeating them and then exile all Igbos. After many years with the help of world power Igbo decided to come back to their land, but are being resisted by the occupiers(which of cause is expected). 2. Israel is not fighting with Palestine but Hamas. Please do you finding. In fact Palestine is weak and Hamas can easily hijack that state without the intervention of Israel. Just like the Taliban did to Afghanistan. 3. Please make proper research. UN has always been in the fore front in peaceful resolution. Many of the agreement were signed in their presence. Israel has no issues with having the state of Palestine. But has always insists that the Palestine honour their agreement and expel Hamas from their land which they have not been able to do till now. 4. In war, when properly investigated there will always be evidence of human right abuse. But it must not exceed certain threshold. There human right abuses from both sides. I mean there are practical evidence that Hamas were using civilians as human shield while they fire at Israel. How do you cope with that if you are in their shoe? 5. If really Hamas is just a resistance organization not terrorist, why did they attack now, killing innocent civilians, wounded many and also kidnapped hundreds of others. This is unprovoked as there no threat, maltreatment nor incitement from Israel. In fact many of the Palestines goes to work in Israel and security allows them in and out, through the boarder. This was how they infiltrated Israel that enable the plan and launched a successful attack. Personally, I do not see the need for all these war and fight over land. Both Israel and Palestinian (Hamas) are right, in their claims over the land. Israel sees that land as their long heritage while Palestinian had long occupied the land having feeling of ownership. But peaceful resolution is always the best option. We can get all we want but we should come to an agreement. Badassniggga: |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by tollyboy5(m): 11:26pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
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| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by tollyboy5(m): 11:30pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
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| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Fiscus105(m): 11:33pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
sean079:So ,if christian or any other religions doing unthinkable, it doesn't need to be dealt with? Going by ur own assertion. Meanwhile, those christians in Palestine , the Islamic terrorists leading them, are just using them as human sheid. |
| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by Goodlady(f): 11:34pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
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| Re: What Is Hamas, What Is Happening In Israel And Gaza Strip, And Other Questions by tollyboy5(m): 11:45pm On Oct 09, 2023 |
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