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Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Bliss52: 12:14pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
So what!?

We know that Jews don't like Christians.
Jesus even told us that Jews will persecute us Christians.



Now, According please focus:

Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?


Your knowledge of Islam is miniscule sir
I want you to use your common sense here and leave sentiments because as African both Arab, Jew hate you equally even European Christian so listen and learn with open mind

Timeline of Christianity when Jesus was born and had evangelism was about 2000 years ago

Mohammed was born and had his Islam 1500

Difference of 600 years

Both Gabriel appeared to Jesus and Mohammed

All Mohammed wrote was given instructions from Angel Gabriel because 500 years after Jesus message, People where deviating


The message was from God of Abraham to Isaac children (Jesus, Jews) Ismeal children (Arabs)

So definitely having lived in same region, with same ancestors same Angel Gabriel do you understand why both story are similar

Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Bliss52: 12:19pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
I have shown you a Passage in the Arabic Bible with the Name Jesus written




The Arabic name for Jesus is NOT Issa or Isa or Isah BUT Yasu

Mathew 1:1 in Arabic:
"كِتَابُ تَنْسِيلِ يَسُوعَ الْمَسِيحِ ابْنِ دَاوُدَ ابْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ."

Did you read: Yasu'a Al-Masih in the passage?

1. Does it sound like Yisa or Isah to you in Arabic?
2. Where did your Mohammed get Jesus as Isa?
3. Are you categorically saying that Allah is NOT the name of the God of the Muslims?


The question is easy to answer sir.

Why do Arab Christians call Jesus by the name Yasu?
Issah, Is a, YaSa Yasu are all variation of same name

Mohammed, Mohammad, Ahmad, Mammud, Mahammed same name just variation in Arabic used
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 12:20pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
I want you to use your common sense here and leave sentiments because as African both Arab, Jew hate you equally even European Christian so listen and learn with open mind

Timeline of Christianity when Jesus was born and had evangelism was about 2000 years ago

Mohammed was born and had his Islam 1500

Difference of 600 years

Both Gabriel appeared to Jesus and Mohammed

All Mohammed wrote was given instructions from Angel Gabriel because 500 years after Jesus message, People where deviating


The message was from God of Abraham to Isaac children (Jesus, Jews) Ismeal children (Arabs)

So definitely having lived in same region, with same ancestors same Angel Gabriel do you understand why both story are similar
You seem not to get it.

Jesus spoke some words about how He was going to judge the world 600 years before Islam.

In the Arabian peninsular, 600 years after, a certain Mohammed said that Allah said the same words in Judging the world.


Who is copying who?
At least we know for sure according to Islam that Allah is not Jesus the Messiah!
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Bliss52: 12:22pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
You seem not to get it.

Jesus spoke some words about how He was going to judge the world 600 years before Islam.

In the Arabian peninsular, 600 years after, a certain Mohammed said that Allah said the same words in Judging the world.


Who is copying who?
At least we know for sure according to Islam that Allah is not Jesus the Messiah!
Angel Gabriel gave Mohammed the Quran and he clearly said he is simply a messenger
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 12:23pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
Issah, Is a, YaSa Yasu are all variation of same name

Mohammed, Mohammad, Ahmad, Mammud, Mahammed same name just variation in Arabic used
No sir.

Yasu has NO linguistic similarities with Isa, Isah, Essa.

Okay!

Jesus means "Yahweh (YHWH) Saves", what does Isah or Isa or Eesa mean?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op):
Bliss52:
Angel Gabriel gave Mohammed the Quran and he clearly said he is simply a messenger
Please, let's know :
how did Jibril give the Qur'an to Mohammed?

How come when Shaitaan was giving Mohammed the Qur'an, he didn't know that this was not Jibril?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Bliss52: 12:31pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
No sir.

Yasu has NO linguistic similarities with Isa, Isah, Essa.

Okay!

Jesus means "Yahweh (YHWH) Saves", what does Isah or Isa or Eesa mean?
Kindly read when Moses asked God for his name in your Bible

YWWH is not Hebrew or Arabic, it's unknown Language of the Gods

Go and read Exodus especially 3 when the spirit appeared

Again go and read about mythological books of all Semmitics YHWH is not even exclusive to christian Jew or Islam

Even Pagan call YHWH

YHWH exist in many spell books 5th and 6th book of Moses even 7th magic book, same as Solomon magic books
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Bliss52: 12:32pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
Please, let's how did Jibril give the Qur'an to Mohammed?

How come when Shaitaan was giving Mohammed the Qur'an, he didn't know that this was not Jibril?
You started with sense try and not get sentimental and start insult

Gabriel, Jubril gave Mohammed Quran only an idiot would even dispute that

Assuming you are not an idiot then don't demonize anybody's Religion or Quran by linking it to Satan
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Finestgurlie(f): 12:34pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
Angel Gabriel gave Mohammed the Quran and he clearly said he is simply a messenger
na lie
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by MightySparrow: 12:45pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
See As they have entered their burrows like scared rabbits.

Islam is embarrassing to defend. Mohammed keep on talking and talking and the mumu followers kept writing whatever he said.

How can the Almighty Allah copy a mortal man?

No wonder, Allah people of Mohammed's time said the Qur'an are fables and tales of the ancients!
Tale by the Moonlight or. Arabian Nights.
Hahaha grin grin grin
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:52pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
Kindly read when Moses asked God for his name in your Bible

YWWH is not Hebrew or Arabic, it's unknown Language of the Gods

Go and read Exodus especially 3 when the spirit appeared

Again go and read about mythological books of all Semmitics YHWH is not even exclusive to christian Jew or Islam

Even Pagan call YHWH

YHWH exist in many spell books 5th and 6th book of Moses even 7th magic book, same as Solomon magic books
1. From this, I can see clearly that you are Not a Muslim.
2. At best, but you are a low-budget Maynman as you have the same signature or Maynman himself.

If you are not a Muslim, how can you speak of Islam. No wonder you muddle everything up.


Is their anything like YHWH in Islam?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:54pm On Oct 12, 2023
Finestgurlie:
na lie
Don't mind him.

I think this is Maynman feigning to be someone else.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Maynman: 1:55pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
YHWH in Islam?
What's the origin of the name Solomon?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0-L-M

Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:55pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
You started with sense try and not get sentimental and start insult

Gabriel, Jubril gave Mohammed Quran only an idiot would even dispute that

Assuming you are not an idiot then don't demonize anybody's Religion or Quran by linking it to Satan

Answer the Question :

At least I know you are just pretending to be a Muslim

How come when Shaitaan was giving Mohammed the Qur'an, he didn't know that this was not Jibril?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:58pm On Oct 12, 2023
Maynman:
What's the origin of the name Solomon?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0-L-M
You changed Monica again!?

The question was :
Who is YHWH in Islam?

If you don't know, I this thread is not for you
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:59pm On Oct 12, 2023
MightySparrow:
Tale by the Moonlight or. Arabian Nights.
Hahaha grin grin grin
Don't mind them.

They enjoy being told lies as they have accepted to swallow a foundation of lies.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Maynman: 2:00pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
The question was :
Who is YHWH in Islam?
Okay, Yahweh worshipper.
https://www.thetorah.com/article/yhwh-the-original-arabic-meaning-of-the-name

Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 2:02pm On Oct 12, 2023
Maynman:
Okay, Yahweh worshipper.
https://www.thetorah.com/article/yhwh-the-original-arabic-meaning-of-the-name
Why were you feigning to be Bliss52?


You've come to a point when you are now aware that people ignore you!?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Maynman: 2:14pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
Why were you feigning to be Bliss52?


You've come to a point when you are now aware that people ignore you!?
And here you are tagging me.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Bliss52: 2:23pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:

Answer the Question :

At least I know you are just pretending to be a Muslim

How come when Shaitaan was giving Mohammed the Qur'an, he didn't know that this was not Jibril?
Why is Jesus a gypsy and rumored Gay with 12 gay disciples

Do you like such question about your own religion?!

Why a Catholic notorious gay how about that for a question

Ok this last was it through Jesus fvcked Mary Magdalene

When you answer this

Then perhaps you might understand that linking Mohammed , Quran and Shatan or satanism show stupidity and immaturity and that's not how educated people argue
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 2:42pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
Why is Jesus a gypsy and rumored Gay with 12 gay disciples

Do you like such question about your own religion?!

Why a Catholic notorious gay how about that for a question

Ok this last was it through Jesus fvcked Mary Magdalene

When you answer this

Then perhaps you might understand that linking Mohammed , Quran and Shatan or satanism show stupidity and immaturity and that's not how educated people argue
Thank you
Here is what early Muslim scholars say about the satanic verses

Al Waqidi
"On a certain day, the chief men of Mecca, assembled in a group beside the Kaaba, discussed as was their wont the affairs of the city; when Mahomet appeared and, seating himself by them in a friendly manner, began to recite in their hearing the 53 Sura.... "
"And see ye not Lat and Ozza, and Manat the third besides?"

"When he had reached this verse, the devil suggested an expression of the thoughts which for many a day had possessed his soul; and put into his mouth words of reconciliation and compromise, the revelation of which he had been longing for from God, namely;

"These are the exalted Females, and verily their intercession is to be hoped for"

"The Coreish were surprised and delighted with this acknowledgement of their deities; and as Mahomet wound up the Sura with the closing words

"Wherefore bow down before God, and serve Him"

"the whole assembly prostrated themselves with one accord on the ground and worshipped. Walid alone, the son of Mughira, unable from the infirmities of age to bow down, took a handful of earth and worshipped, pressing it to his forehead."

"And all the people were pleased at that which Mahomet had spoke, and they began to say, "Now we know that it is the Lord alone that give life and takes it away, that created and supports. These our goddesses make intercession with Him for us; and as thou has conceded unto them a portion, we are content to follow thee". But their words disquieted Mahomet, and he retired to his house. In the evening Gabriel visited him; and the prophet recited the Sura unto him. And Gabriel said, "What is this that thou has done? Thou has repeated before the people words that I never gave unto thee". So Mahomet grieved sore, and feared the Lord greatly; and he said, "I have spoken of God that which He had not said." But the Lord comforted His prophet, and restored his confidence, and cancelled the verse, and revealed the true reading thereof (as it now stands), namely,

"And see ye not Lat and Ozza, and Manat the third beside? What! Shall there be male progeny unto you, and female unto him? That were indeed an unjust partition! They are naught but names, which ye and your Fathers have invented, etc."


The Life of Mahomet", Volume 2, pp. 150 - 152, by W. Muir, quoting "Kitab al-Wakidi", published in London.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by FxMasterz:
TenQ:
Sorry sir.

How can Zachariah from the Tribe of Levi a priest in the a temple of Jerusalem the father of John the Baptist turn out to be

1. Zechariah is an Arab man
2. A descendant of John
3. and is one of the author of new testament



Questions :
1. Please what is the identity of this Zachariah?
2. Which of the books of the new testament did he write
3. In what language did he write his book

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This your zealous friend need a study of Islam o!
Lol.

The guy just dey crack my ribs anyhow? Haha, im be good comedian.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by FxMasterz: 5:34pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
And you ask me to get a scholar

I don't need one

I have lived around middle east with Jews and Arab and I know how they tell their story is the same

And I read freely as an open minded man who is educated
Lol.

You're indeed very educated. Clap for yourself. Zechariah was an Arabian. He was a descendant of John. He even wrote a new testament book.

You deserve an award. Your education is superb.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 7:53pm On Oct 12, 2023
FxMasterz:
Lol.

The guy just dey crack my ribs anyhow? Haha, im be good comedian.
Immediately I knew that he was either an imposter or an ignoramus

1. Zechariah is an Arab man
2. A descendant of John
3. and is one of the author of new testament


Only an ignorant person say this
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Qasim6(m): 10:08pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
See As they have entered their burrows like scared rabbits.

Islam is embarrassing to defend. Mohammed keep on talking and talking and the mumu followers kept writing whatever he said.

How can the Almighty Allah copy a mortal man?

No wonder, Allah people of Mohammed's time said the Qur'an are fables and tales of the ancients!
grin grin grin says a man that believes his God was beaten, spat on and crucified by his creation.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by FxMasterz: 10:28pm On Oct 12, 2023
TenQ:
Immediately I knew that he was either an imposter or an ignoramus

1. Zechariah is an Arab man
2. A descendant of John
3. and is one of the author of new testament


Only an ignorant person say this
Lol
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op):
Qasim6:
grin grin grin says a man that believes his God was beaten, spat on and crucified by his creation.
Yes!
For the sake of LOVE, my God came down to His Creations to pay the price for their crime against His Absolute command so that in Justice, freedom is given to those who have His Spirit can be saved.


What did Allah do that you should be saved from the consequence of your crime against the Kunfayakun of the Almighty God?


Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


Even babies go to hell because of Allah

Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6435:
Narrated Aisha:
A child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?





Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 4:46am On Oct 13, 2023
*Why does Allah copy Jesus?
*Who said these words: Jesus or Allah?
*Who is copying who in this message?


Background Summary:
1. It is the day of Judgement
2. God is on the throne and judging the acts of men (sons of Adam) .
3. God says "I was sick but you didn't visit me!"
And the Unrighteous replied :
"You are the Lord of the World's: when did we see you sick but you didn't visit you? "
4. God says that He is the neighbour who these men did or did not give their help.
5. God says: If these men had helped their neighbours, they would have found out it was God they were helping


I am sure most Muslims have not heard this hadith before.

Here is the narration from Allah according to Mohammed SAW


Sahih Muslim 2569
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying:
Verily, Allah , the Exalted and Glorious, would say on the Day of Resurrection: O son of Adam, I was sick but you did not visit Me. He would say: O my Lord; how could I visit Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine was sick but you did not visit him and were you not aware of this that if you had visited him, you would have found Me by him? O son of Adam, I asked food from you but you did not feed Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I feed Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? He said: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine asked food from you but you did not feed him, and were you not aware that if you had fed him you would have found him by My side? (The Lord would again say: ) O son of Adam, I asked drink from you but you did not provide Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I provide Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Such and such of servant of Mine asked you for a drink but you did not provide him, and had you provided him drink you would have found him near Me.


This hadith above is repeated with slightly different wordings in
1. Hadith 18, 40 Hadith Qudsi
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah
2. Mishkat al-Masabih 1528
On the authority of Abu Huraira

Here is Jesus saying a more detailed version of the narration in the Bible.

Mat 25:31-46:
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, and fed you? or thirsty, and gave you drink? When saw we you a stranger, and took you in? or naked, and clothed you? Or when saw we you sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me. Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungered, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then shall he answer them, saying, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."


We can see that these storylines are very similar to each other. The narrators are Jesus and Allah.



Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allāh - Allāh has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.





Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Qasim6(m):
TenQ:
Yes!
For the sake of LOVE, my God came down to His Creations to pay the price for their crime against His Absolute command so that in Justice, freedom is given to those who have His Spirit can be saved.


What did Allah do that you should be saved from the consequence of your crime against the Kunfayakun of the Almighty God?


Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


Even babies go to hell because of Allah

Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6435:
[i]Narrated Aisha:
A child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?
That sound more like for the sake of stupidity, your ALMIGHTY God came down from his throne to be killed by his creation so he can forgive them

Do you Pauline Christians for the sake of love also hand over cane to ur children to beat u up for their wrong doings?
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Qasim6(m): 6:23am On Oct 13, 2023
TenQ:
Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


Even babies go to hell because of Allah

Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6435:
[i]Narrated Aisha:
A child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?
You and your half knowledge

What the verse is talking about is the bridge across hell we are going to pass through on the day of qiyama.

Believers will pass through easily.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by Qasim6(m): 6:59am On Oct 13, 2023
TenQ:
Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
You are funny

Matthew a supposed follower of Jesus that was present right from the beginning of Jesus ministry copied over 90% from the gospel of Mark a supposed disciple of Peter to form his own gospel and you believe that book to be genuine. I'll advice you to take such a book with a pinch of salt.

By the time those gospels were written they are already pushing the agenda of a divine, God Jesus. I'm sure Matthew or whoever wrote that gospel must have intentionally make it seem like Jesus will be the one sitting on the throne on the day of judgement making those statements.
Re: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 7:40am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
That sound more like for the sake of stupidity, your ALMIGHTY God came down from his throne to be killed by his creation so he can forgive them

Do you Pauline Christians for the sake of love also hand over cane to ur children to beat u up for their wrong doings?
From your thesis,
It seems you don't know what death is:

In Islam,
Is death a form of non-existent Annihilation?


If you don't understand this simple thing, I how can you understand the deeper things?
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