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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by johnw47: 1:28am On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You go cry tire!Oteneaaron (Courz) who said Jehovah is a demon and that Jesus never existed you don't have issues with him except Jehovah's Witnesses now you're crying all over the place for a challenge.
Challenge kọ́ Òke màpó ni! cheesy
cornelboy: Lol don't mind him.
People like courz/otenearon said Jesus is myth, we shouldn't follow any God but follow our mind, Jehovah is a satanic name etc, they don't see any lie to expose there lol
Na to dé follow Jehovah witnesses up and down as if we collect their food.
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw boy and false jw indhouse

you people of the same line of thought are forever fearfully paranoid by the devil, aren't you

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:19am On Oct 13, 2023
Sand2022:
One 1980 article, under the heading " The motivating power of Christ's generosity" says concerning this event:
" Appreciation for Jesus Christ’s generosity promoted a fine spirit of giving among the early Christians. Shortly after the Christian congregation was founded, we are told: “There was not one in need among them; for all those who were possessors of fields or houses would sell them and bring the values of the things sold and they would deposit them at the feet of the apostles. In turn distribution would be made to each one, just as he would have the need.”​—Acts 4:34, 35"
People who were imitating Christ. Someone here is saying they are acting against the teaching of Christ.
We learn everyday so it's good to meditate on whatever we read in the Bible to grasp the whole thing instead of just concluding that those involved did what is right simply because they are ancient faithful servants of God. I'm not disputing their kind gesture and generosity but what i'm saying and will continue saying is that Jesus never taught them to do that, according to Christ Jesus anyone who wants to help a neighbour should do it codedly without letting others know {Matthew 6:3} note that Jesus never for once distribute money even though he has all the power to do so and moreover when one of the apostles suggested that they should sell what was given and give the money to the poor ones among them Jesus said each person can do that on his own! Mark 14:7
Sand2022:
I will start to ignore your post that are nonsensical and that insults the followers of Jesus. You need spiritual help.
It's better you don't even quote or mention me again because i won't stop telling the truth!
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:28am On Oct 13, 2023
Sand2022:
Gal 3:5; 1cor 12:28,29
[1]Therefore, does the one who supplies you the spirit and performs powerful works among you do it because of your works of law or because of your faith in what you heard?

[2]And God has assigned the respective ones in the congregation: first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then powerful works; then gifts of healings; helpful services; abilities to direct; different tongues. 29 Not all are apostles, are they? Not all are prophets, are they? Not all are teachers, are they? Not all perform powerful works, do they?

Which between the two accounts specifically mentioned the name of a gentile performing miracles in Jesus name?
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 7:45am On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
He knows i have a valid indisputable point on that so your faithlessness is dead on arrival! wink
From Sand2022.......


This occured during Passover. Many came to Jerusalem from abroad. They perhaps didn't plan to stay long in Jerusalem. Now because of the new religion, which they are now part of, they stayed back. This multitude need to be fed. That necessitated the selling of property to feed them. That they sold properties indicates they were poor people. This is not a poverty alleviation program. It was done to feed these new disciples who stayed over. You can't blame this program for the death of Annanias.
I know you can lie to save your bartered face and lack of self respect even peddling madness and insanities alongside it grin grin grin

He knows i have a valid indisputable point on that so your faithlessness is dead on arrival!
Where is the valid indisputable point? You will start running by peddling wahala all over the place. His response to you already shows na invalid and disputable points grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 7:53am On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
We learn everyday so it's good to meditate on whatever we read in the Bible to grasp the whole thing instead of just concluding that those involved did what is right simply because they are ancient faithful servants of God. I'm not disputing their kind gesture and generosity but what i'm saying and will continue saying is that Jesus never taught them to do that, according to Christ Jesus anyone who wants to help a neighbour should do it codedly without letting others know {Matthew 6:3} note that Jesus never for once distribute money even though he has all the power to do so and moreover when one of the apostles suggested that they should sell what was given and give the money to the poor ones among them Jesus said each person can do that on his own! Mark 14:7

It's better you don't even quote or mention me again because i won't stop telling the truth!
See the liar and manipulator grin grin grin

MaxInDHouse stated......

He knows I have a valid indisputable point on that so your faithlessness is dead on arrival!
Sand2022 responded....

I will start to ignore your post that are nonsensical and that insults the followers of Jesus. You need spiritual help.
MaxInDHouse will be glad Sand2022 follow the below....

It's better you don't even quote or mention me again because i won't stop telling the truth!
The above will give him unfettered access to propagate more lies, manipulations, madness and insanities peddling grin grin grin

MaxInDHouse Opuro ni e. Your valid and indisputable point goes up in flames.

Christ Jesus anyone who wants to help a neighbour should do it codedly without letting others know
All the help Jesus did in the scriptures were done codedly grin grin grin grin We know you cannot desist from lying against the holy spirit already. Na part of the insanities and madness your brains peddle nowadays grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11am On Oct 13, 2023
achorladey:
All the help Jesus did in the scriptures were done codedly
Quote anywhere Jesus gave someone money as HELP! cheesy
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by cornelboy(f): 9:15am On Oct 13, 2023
Janosky:
Your TRINITARIAN mentors ADDED your third deity into personhood during the 4th century. grin grin

John chapters 14 & 16, Jesus referred to holy spirit as Advocate (Greek Paracletos), this is a masculine noun in Greek, Paracletos is a he.
Holy spirit is a IT (neuter gender in Greek), for this reason ,Romans 8:16,26 your TRINITARIAN mentors confirmed that..
Screenshot evidence as examples.
(1). "Opaleye told the newspaper", is the newspaper a person?
No.
(2). "The Parliament Report said", is that Report a person?

Jesus breathed holy spirit upon the disciples.
Jesus did not breath another being into the disciples.

Their having holy spirit did not make them perfect.
Was another living being inside the disciples?
No !!
I dé alway gbádùn you
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:31am On Oct 13, 2023
The move to eradicate poverty among believers in the first century wasn't the idea of Jesus' apostles rather it's a kind gesture from new converts who feel like helping their fellow believers {Act 4:32-35} the apostles supposed to have prayed fervently over the matter before giving their consent so that God's Holy Spirit may remind them of how Jesus handled the case of poverty among believers {Act 14:26} but since the idea seems good to them they welcomed it not until the death of a Christian couple that's when they realized that the act was WRONG.

Lesson learned!

God's anointed servants may err in their decision but that doesn't mean they're not God's representatives! smiley
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 11:30am On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Quote anywhere Jesus gave someone money as HELP! cheesy
Madness and insanities peddling peddler says quote where Jesus gave someone money as HELP grin grin grin

The initial issue was....

All the help Jesus did in the scriptures were done codedly
Where is the money in the post you respond to? Running here and there to peddle madness and insanities. Where in the scriptures did your GODS see reasons to give members within your midst money in times of need?
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 11:39am On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The move to eradicate poverty among believers in the first century wasn't the idea of Jesus' apostles rather it's a kind gesture from new converts who feel like helping their fellow believers {Act 4:32-35} the apostles supposed to have prayed fervently over the matter before giving their consent so that God's Holy Spirit may remind them of how Jesus handled the case of poverty among believers {Act 14:26} but since the idea seems good to them they welcomed it not until the death of a Christian couple that's when they realized that the act was WRONG.

Lesson learned!

God's anointed servants may err in their decision but that doesn't mean they're not God's representatives! smiley
We know you cannot stop peddling madness and insanities packed into your lying and manipulated brains......

The move to eradicate poverty among believers in the first century wasn't the idea of Jesus' apostles rather it's a kind gesture from new converts who feel like helping their fellow believers
Now it wasn't the idea of Jesus' apostles grin grin grin but gesture from new converts. All this to cover your earliest lies and manipulations against the holy spirit and the apostles. Yet we still cannot see the support from the Bible that the new converts were busy eradicating poverty grin grin

the apostles supposed to have prayed fervently over the matter before giving their consent so that God's Holy Spirit may remind them of how Jesus handled the case of poverty among believers
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.


Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”

MaxInDHouse Peter is lying and manipulating the Holy spirit. Correct? grin grin grin grin

God's anointed servants may err in their decision but that doesn't mean they're not God's representatives
Is the Pope, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi God's representative? Madness and insanities peddling peddler. Start another round of lies grin grin grin grin

You go see how your madness from the time I have come to know you on nairaland begins to unravel grin grin grin cheesy

Cc: Emusan
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MightySparrow:
achorladey:
We know you cannot stop peddling madness and insanities packed into your lying and manipulated brains......




Now it wasn't the idea of Jesus' apostles grin grin grin but gesture from new converts. All this to cover your earliest lies and manipulations against the holy spirit and the apostles. Yet we still cannot see the support from the Bible that the new converts were busy eradicating poverty grin grin



After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.


Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”

MaxInDHouse Peter is lying and manipulating the Holy spirit. Correct? grin grin grin grin



Is the Pope, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi God's representative? Madness and insanities peddling peddler. Start another round of lies grin grin grin grin

You go see how your madness from the time I have come to know you on nairaland begins to unravel grin grin grin cheesy

Cc: Emusan
You dey mind this fellow? I have fagged him out. He no longer respond to my posts. I gave it to him hot - hot.
JWs can lie to defend their Organization Against God. He will be twisting you like boa constrictor. They are taught to do just that.

Can you see? The students (new converts) now
holds the syllabus suggesting to their teachers (Apostles). grin. The apostles prayed over it as if he was there recording the events.

This fellow is a retired soldier o. This is the only mumu soldier I have ever come across in my life. The next one would be an ex - soldier that joins JWs walahi.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MightySparrow: 12:03pm On Oct 13, 2023
achorladey:
Madness and insanities peddling peddler says quote where Jesus gave someone money as HELP grin grin grin

The initial issue was....



Where is the money in the post you respond to? Running here and there to peddle madness and insanities. Where in the scriptures did your GODS see reasons to give members within your midst money in times of need?
See mumunity. Jesus didn't give money to Peter to save him from the embarrassment of tax collector? Judas was keeping the bag. Jesus' ministry had money, Judas was the money keeper. How did he ask his disciples to give his congregation food?

He could choose not to give money not out of lack but having several ways of solving same problems.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MightySparrow: 12:06pm On Oct 13, 2023
cornelboy:
I dé alway gbádùn you
Can you see lie. Read the portion. The Bible hasn't said that. If He did, why would they need to be baptized later in Acts 2?
JWs can lie Sha.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:09pm On Oct 13, 2023
achorladey:
We know you cannot stop peddling madness and insanities packed into your lying and manipulated brains...... Now it wasn't the idea of Jesus' apostles grin grin grin but gesture from new converts. All this to cover your earliest lies and manipulations against the holy spirit and the apostles. Yet we still cannot see the support from the Bible that the new converts were busy eradicating poverty grin grin After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly. Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.” MaxInDHouse Peter is lying and manipulating the Holy spirit. Correct? grin grin grin grin Is the Pope, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi God's representative? Madness and insanities peddling peddler. Start another round of lies grin grin grin grin You go see how your madness from the time I have come to know you on nairaland begins to unravel grin grin grin cheesy
Cc: Emusan
As long as they're God's representatives whoever speaks against them is endangering his life that's why it's necessary to IDENTIFY God's representatives not just taking all as God's servants.
Those that spoke against Moses surely had a reason because they can see his flaws but then the true God who wants His worshipers to be ORGANIZED doesn't want a division among His worshipers so speaking against Moses is tantamount to rebellion against the one who appointed him: GOD!

You can't dispute the fact that God's servants in ancient times committed blunders and that God never welcome rebellion against His arrangement! wink
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:11pm On Oct 13, 2023
MightySparrow:
See mumunity. Jesus didn't give money to Peter to save him from the embarrassment of tax collector? Judas was keeping the bag. Jesus' ministry had money, Judas was the money keeper. How did he ask his disciples to give his congregation food? He could choose not to give money not out of lack but having several ways of solving same problems.
Were those given the money believers who are in need of food, clothing or shelter? wink
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:20pm On Oct 13, 2023
MightySparrow:
The apostles prayed over it as if he was there recording the events.
I ignored you because you're just a faithless miscreant!

Can you quote where the Bible said the Apostles prayed over the matter before giving their consent? smiley
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 12:48pm On Oct 13, 2023
MightySparrow:
See mumunity. Jesus didn't give money to Peter to save him from the embarrassment of tax collector? Judas was keeping the bag. Jesus' ministry had money, Judas was the money keeper. How did he ask his disciples to give his congregation food?

He could choose not to give money not out of lack but having several ways of solving same problems.
Na the pride and arrogance dey cause more mumu peddlings from his madness and insanities peddling brains grin grin grin

Na him send Jesus come the earth grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 12:57pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
As long as they're God's representatives whoever speaks against them is endangering his life that's why it's necessary to IDENTIFY God's representatives not just taking all as God's servants.
Those that spoke against Moses surely had a reason because they can see his flaws but then the true God who wants His worshipers to be ORGANIZED doesn't want a division among His worshipers so speaking against Moses is tantamount to rebellion against the one who appointed him: GOD!

You can't dispute the fact that God's servants in ancient times committed blunders and that God never welcome rebellion against His arrangement! wink
As long as they're God's representatives whoever speaks against them is endangering his life that's why it's necessary to IDENTIFY God's representatives not just taking all as God's servants.
The above captures your insanities and madness peddling all this while. Bookmarked. So you know they are God's representative grin grin grin grin

Those that spoke against Moses surely had a reason because they can see his flaws but then the true God who wants His worshipers to be ORGANIZED doesn't want a division among His worshipers so speaking against Moses is tantamount to rebellion against the one who appointed him: GOD!
I didn't ask any matter regarding Moses or people being organised. Those you call churchgoers are very much organised like your brothers and sisters in Jehovah grin grin grin keep the story telling.

You can't dispute the fact that God's servants in ancient times committed blunders and that God never welcome rebellion against His arrangement!
What you are running away from that place your so called God's representative in categories never to be compared to the apostles you kept lying against including the holy spirit is that they never teach lies and manipulate the scriptures grin grin grin

Making mistakes was not the issues lying and manipulating the scriptures in the name of God was why they will never be classified or seen in the same ranks as the apostles grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 12:58pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I ignored you because you're just a faithless miscreant!

Can you quote where the Bible said the Apostles prayed over the matter before giving their consent? smiley
Faithless miscreants peddler lying and manipulating against the holy spirit and the apostles
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 12:59pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Were those given the money believers who are in need of food, clothing or shelter? wink
Peter na unbeliever when Jesus give am money na. You no read am for your Bible grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MightySparrow: 1:00pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I ignored you because you're just a faithless miscreant!

Can you quote where the Bible said the Apostles prayed over the matter before giving their consent? smiley
Check your response to achorladey
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MightySparrow: 1:07pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Were those given the money believers who are in need of food, clothing or shelter? wink
Again, believers would pray, among brethren, they will help themselves: Matthew 25 . Do you remember the good deeds of Dorcas?
No only that what of Ruth in Obed's farm and Jesus disciples picking ears of corn to eat. Jesus had farm? All these knew the disciples and brought to early church.
You know when hypocrisy comes in. You criticize good works. Ministry having school. Elijah had. As at the time no secular school in Israel.
Check my signature.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 1:22pm On Oct 13, 2023
MightySparrow:
Check your response to achorladey
He decided to ignore the post sef
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m):
achorladey:
So you know they are God's representative
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, the one and only representatives of my own God today are the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:25pm On Oct 13, 2023
achorladey:
Peter na unbeliever when Jesus give am money na. You no read am for your Bible grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
I think MightySparrow got the message!

Jesus never gave Peter money rather he told him how to get it and the money wasn't meant for Peter's personal needs so the two events aren't compatible, one was done to pay for the temple tax which those officiating in the temple imposed on all it's users while the other was to ERADICATE POVERTY AMONG THE BELIEVERS! wink
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Oct 13, 2023
MightySparrow:
Again, believers would pray, among brethren, they will help themselves: Matthew 25 . Do you remember the good deeds of Dorcas?
No only that what of Ruth in Obed's farm and Jesus disciples picking ears of corn to eat. Jesus had farm? All these knew the disciples and brought to early church.
You know when hypocrisy comes in. You criticize good works. Ministry having school. Elijah had. As at the time no secular school in Israel. Check my signature.
And you stylishly dodge the question! smiley

So here is it again:

Were Peter and the apostles in need of money for personal use like those who shared money to be taken home for their needs?
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by cornelboy(f): 2:46pm On Oct 13, 2023
MightySparrow:
Can you see lie. Read the portion. The Bible hasn't said that. If He did, why would they need to be baptized later in Acts 2?
JWs can lie Sha.
Lol
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 3:17pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, the one and only representatives of my own God today are the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
lies and manipulations upon lies and manipulations
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:23pm On Oct 13, 2023
achorladey:
lies and manipulations upon lies and manipulations
All your Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Oyakilome and co are Baal prophets to me so when i talk about God's representatives know that these faithless prophets of Baal aren't in the picture.
You can have them as servants of your own God! cheesy
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 3:23pm On Oct 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I think MightySparrow got the message!

Jesus never gave Peter money rather he told him how to get it and the money wasn't meant for Peter's personal needs so the two events aren't compatible, one was done to pay for the temple tax which those officiating in the temple imposed on all it's users while the other was to ERADICATE POVERTY AMONG THE BELIEVERS! wink
I kmow the madness and insanities peddling no go allow you reason.

You are looking for where Jesus gave people money as evidence yet you cooked poverty alleviation from your lying and manipulated brains against the holy spirit, the apostles and their new converts without evidence
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Emusan(m): 3:33pm On Oct 13, 2023
Janosky:
These FAITHLESS miscreants behaving as if 1 Corinthians 15:12-13 is not in their Bibles.

If Jesus Christ did not resurrect would the dead resurrect?

Paul the apostle PROVEN that Jesus resurrection is the foundation of the belief in the resurrection of the dead.

These same FAITHLESS miscreants don't believe Jesus resurrected sef! grin grin grin grin
Since you agreed that the Apostles are wrong and taught false doctrines.

Do you agree that Watchtower also teaches false doctrines and are wrong?

You won't see him answer this question


JaNosense hallgoer miscreant cheesy grin grin cheesy
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:33pm On Oct 13, 2023
achorladey:
I kmow the madness and insanities peddling no go allow you reason.
You are looking for where Jesus gave people money as evidence yet you cooked poverty alleviation from your lying and manipulated brains against the holy spirit, the apostles and their new converts without evidence
Ọmọ the Holy Spirit will never support what is against God's will.
According to God's Son each person will be given a fair chance so whether you are rich or not you can contribute to the success of God's will but the apostles erred by giving their consent to the gesture of those new converts because it seems good to them whereas Jesus has warmed them that they will always have the poor in their midst! Mark 14:7

If you attend a religious center today and you are asked to sell whatever you own and you did then brought ₦25,000 only to return home with ₦300,000 after the whole program will you miss the meeting of such a gathering again?

I know you won't answer because you're bent on deceiving yourself but that's exactly what the apostles concur to which is unscriptural from the viewpoint of Jehovah and Jesus.

It's when God's kingdom comes that we will all be equal in wealth so go and tell all your friends that Max is here to TEACH you faithless miscreants what was wrong in that act! wink
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