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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:17pm On Oct 13, 2023
Kog45:
Keepers cost us Afcon and WC qualification and we are still relying on those keepers with zero improvement since the mistakes,warming bench…someone told us recently that keeper will cost us again.
We have to stop thinking one FB is coming to save us. Peseiro must look inward.

If Gambias and Sierra Leones of this world can have good keepers that are very unknown, ah we have no excuse o

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 8:17pm On Oct 13, 2023
How is this JPs fault? I don't really understand you guys? The Saudis created one chance from open play while Paserios team were missing sitters upon sitters yet you blame Paserio? Uzoho put the ball in his own net and Aribo mistakenly stepped on a players leg to gift Saudis goal yet you play JP? I do not understand? Seriously!
charlesemeka85:
bro, we all are super eagles fans but it doesn’t mean one shouldn’t criticize the team if they perform poorly

Mancini na grade A coach and if we happen to turn the table whereas he coached the super eagles while jpes coached the saudi team the former would hv won the game

I am not putting the blame on our players but jpes. His game management was poor
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:19pm On Oct 13, 2023
Simple modern football is not hard for any observant fan to see.

Set up structure in opponents half that will give superior advantage with possession. Any foolish Defender that can't pass will have to goan learn. This setup means you have most times, 6 bodies in opponents half at least and 8 at most with two ball playing CBs at the centre circle. Any loss of possession is met with swift recovery by nearest players before they see passing zones. This is just from observation and is not the totality of such setup but

What do i know? Nothing 😂
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:20pm On Oct 13, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Yes you are right but Sodick probably made a good first impression with JP, recall he worked with him before his long term injury. JP has shown that he prefers a devil that he knows to an angel he doesn't know.
Sadiq never impressed under JP.He was ahead of others after Osimhen but his unimpressive performance gave way for Moffi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:22pm On Oct 13, 2023
Kog45:
Oga AndSun,free kick goal na goal nau and wasting of chances is not acceptable in football
Agreed freekick na goal. At this point, I dont think we should fire JP so we don't repeat what happened last time with Rohr. I think our game was good, we controlled the game unlike our previous matches, goalkeeping errors cost us too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 8:22pm On Oct 13, 2023
I don't think we should be defending a 2-1 lead against Saudi in a friendly??


We really spared them today and maybe some of our players respected Mancini too much or something, cuz we should be winning this match atleast 3-1..

fun fact - just before the free kick, I knew it was a goal so I was not surprised at all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:22pm On Oct 13, 2023
IDENNAA:
Who was the guy that replaced Ebuehi.....good player
OSayi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 8:23pm On Oct 13, 2023
Bro, na you dey emotional dey blame Paserio. lol! Na you dey complain nowoo! How I go dey emotional when I like how Paserio dey coach the boys. Na Paserio say make Uzoho score himselff! loll! Normal level dem no score us na us score our self. Normal level dem suppose chop like 10 na we dey miss sitters. lol! Nobody said Saudi is overated na you dey rate Mancini! lol!
charlesemeka85:
bro you are just being emotional, though as a fan I understand how you feel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Saudi is not overrated bro, they are still minnows and it is shameful they forced us to a draw when they hv lost their previous games conceding good number of goals at the process

Normal level saudi no even suppose score us. I knw many will reference their win against world champions Argentina at the last World Cup but in football such surprises springs up once in a while


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:23pm On Oct 13, 2023
Marjoribanks:
How is this JPs fault? I don't really understand you guys? The Saudis created one chance from open play while Paserios team were missing sitters upon sitters yet you blame Paserio? Uzoho put the ball in his own net and Aribo mistakenly stepped on a players leg to gift Saudis goal yet you play JP? I do not understand? Seriously!
it is not about the Saudi’s but peseiro’s game management bro. Na emotions Abi sentiment mk u no observe that which was clear and obvious to many here?😳

Saudi didn’t create anything but tactically were better in the second half which lead to them equalizing

Bro Saudi team is poor talent wise but tactically they managed to get something out of the game

If you noticed in the second half they started dribbling more to penetrate our defense in order to get a penalty which they protested for like 3 times but the referee called them off. They resorted to that pattern of play because they know they lack the technicality and creative heads to penetrate our defense

This is the pattern that got them the equalizer bro

Try dey read and understand tactics/game approach when watching games

If possible try and watch the replay of the game to understand all I stated above

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:24pm On Oct 13, 2023
Marjoribanks:
How is this JPs fault? I don't really understand you guys? The Saudis created one chance from open play while Paserios team were missing sitters upon sitters yet you blame Paserio? Uzoho put the ball in his own net and Aribo mistakenly stepped on a players leg to gift Saudis goal yet you play JP? I do not understand? Seriously!

Either he doesn't have personnel to stop that nonsense or he is just too rigid in changing rubbish when he sees it. That is why the buck ends with him mostly.


4 players see a combined 22chances and waste it, for example. But coach keeps giving them top treatment. They'll never learn or get more clinical.

If such player now wake up tomorrow, randomly, people go say Coach sabi. Whereas na probability situo. Coach needs to step up with Giant legs or these guys will continue to play mixture of

Flair
Street
Nonsense
Anything-Goes

And no matter what, na Captain of such ship go get the blame. So why surprised??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:25pm On Oct 13, 2023
Odunayaw:
Now I'm afraid about this GK issues

Scary!!
We've been hammering on it since we lost Carl Ikeme. No matter how we want to look at it, it was goalkeeping that cost us Qatar WC qualification. And we still not out of the woods.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:27pm On Oct 13, 2023
One thing i hate with our football most times is you have a higher chance of decoding the opponents game plan than our own game plan. Ours gives headache too much. Saudi own was too obvious. Bissau own was obvious after 20mins.

We go dey alright sha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 8:31pm On Oct 13, 2023
Adeleye is simply not the solution. He is a poor man Onana!

The coach has to search like Onigbinde did to get Enyeama when Ejide was flopping like Maduka and Uzoho.

The Ivorian Golden generation failed cos of lack of a good goal keeper while the Egyptian won three AFCONs in a role thanks to a solid goalkeeper.

We are in a goal keeping crisis and the solution is here in Nigeria's 200 million population.

Source for goalkeepers in the grassroots not these ones in the league. It is a matter of urgency else we might just kiss AFCON good bye!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nigeriagood(m): 8:31pm On Oct 13, 2023
Saudi against the likes of Oman and Iraq etc: weakling, defeated, toyed with
Saudi against the super eagles:superpower, champion, mighty force
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nigeriagood(m): 8:31pm On Oct 13, 2023
Mujtahida:

We've been hammering on it since we lost Carl Ikeme. No matter how we want to look at it, it was goalkeeping that cost us Qatar WC qualification. And we still not out of the woods.
enyeama but I get your point
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:31pm On Oct 13, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Bro, na you dey emotional dey blame Paserio. lol! Na you dey complain nowoo! How I go dey emotional when I like how Paserio dey coach the boys. Na Paserio say make Uzoho score himselff! loll! Normal level dem no score us na us score our self. Normal level dem suppose chop like 10 na we dey miss sitters. lol! Nobody said Saudi is overated na you dey rate Mancini! lol!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 e don tey wey I no Dey put emotions for super eagles games to avoid heart attack 🤣🤣🤣🤣

All I said na how I understood the game from my own perspective and observation

We missed sitters in the first half I agree with you on that, even in the first half we would hv been 3 goals up

But what happened when you are leading a game till the 90th minute and hv just 9 minutes remaining in additional time to kill it off rather conceded few seconds to the end of the game?

Who’s fault is that? And from your own observation do u think jpes did what he was suppose to do as a tactician inorder to kill off the game ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 8:31pm On Oct 13, 2023
Lookman and Chuks played to the gallery today and were very wasteful in front of goal.
Seems Ebuehi has finally lost his AFCON spot with his performance today. It's Bright and Aina for that No 2 spot abeg
Please Sadiq Umar has no business in SE and should not be invited again. Gift Orban would have been better.
Jpes failed to play Jordan again today, Ok ooo.
And for Francis Uzoho! Let me just keep quiet. But NFF should get us that Bendel Insurance keeper abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:38pm On Oct 13, 2023
daveP:
One thing i hate with our football most times is you have a higher chance of decoding the opponents game plan than our own game plan. Ours gives headache too much. Saudi own was too obvious. Bissau own was obvious after 20mins.

We go dey alright sha.
I am a hobbyist photographer. There are times I and my friend will snap and I'd look at his and be like "wow, this, that". And then I check my own and be so critical that I don't want to see it.

2 weeks down the line I go back and I'm like omoo this is good o

I think that's how we deal with our games.

Saudi couldn't string passes fa! In fact the time I saw them dangerous was when Osimhen went out and Moffi took some minutes to enter. If it was us that was outclassed like that we would have cried blood by now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:39pm On Oct 13, 2023
Nigeriagood:
Saudi against the likes of Oman and Iraq etc: weakling, defeated, toyed with
Saudi against the super eagles:superpower, champion, mighty force
No de watch match with sunshades
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 8:41pm On Oct 13, 2023
How does dribbling result to tactics? Mancini relies solely on individual efforts. The Saudis tactics today was suicidal and maybe Paserio smells it and decided to play two in attack (I might just have to give Paserio more credit). He brought Nacho into the midfield for Chuks and Ebuehi for an attack minded Osayi giving us a lot of success on the counter and good fluidity in midfield. From there we able to create chances upon chances with Sadiq missing and Iheanacho scoring and missing others. The midfiel had Iheanacho, Aribo, Ndidi when without the ball. How is that short?
charlesemeka85:
it is not about the Saudi’s but peseiro’s game management bro. Na emotions Abi sentiment mk u no observe that which was clear and obvious to many here?😳

Saudi didn’t create anything but tactically were better in the second half which lead to them equalizing

Bro Saudi team is poor talent wise but tactically they managed to get something out of the game

If you noticed in the second half they started dribbling more to penetrate our defense in order to get a penalty which they protested for like 3 times but the referee called them off. They resorted to that pattern of play because they know they lack the technicality and creative heads to penetrate our defense

This is the pattern that got them the equalizer bro

Try dey read and understand tactics/game approach when watching games

If possible try and watch the replay of the game to understand all I stated above
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nigeriagood(m): 8:42pm On Oct 13, 2023
Odunayaw:
No de watch match with sunshades
Mr I watched the match fully,I am joking o to remove the pain 😐
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 8:44pm On Oct 13, 2023
mostob:
If NFF/JPes is hell-bent on FB as our goalkeeper, we should approach Arthur then. This time around, we are rolling a lot of carpets for him.



Aribo coming in for Iwobi is where we lost the Midfield battle. Mancini did not overcrowd any Midfield. Either Frank or Onyedika should have come in for Iwobi. At least, they would give the Midfield more solidity if we can't hold the ball.
If it was Any of the Onyes that replaced Iwobi I don't see us drawing that match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:44pm On Oct 13, 2023
Nigeriagood:
Mr I watched the match fully,I am joking o to remove the pain 😐
grin No think am, na friendly. E no de painful

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:45pm On Oct 13, 2023
Bascovanveli I am expecting you to add some funny commentary to those missed chances especially Lookman
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 8:45pm On Oct 13, 2023
The team will come good but the truth must be told.
1) We are covered at the fullbacks. Bruno/Sanusi then Bright/Aina.
2) We are covered at the DM position. Ndidi/Onyeka/Onyedika.
3) We have problem at RCB. Ajayi/Ekong/Omeruo.
Ajayi has a good presence but lacks calmness under pressure. He is an old school CB. His decision making under pressure will be a big source of worry especially if we meet a team that employs a high press.
4) Nuff said about our CM & AM.
5) GK dept requires a major surgery. In fact a state of emergency should be declared in that position. We don't even have a reserve GK.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:47pm On Oct 13, 2023
Odunayaw:
I am a hobbyist photographer. There are times I and my friend will snap and I'd look at his and be like "wow, this, that". And then I check my own and be so critical that I don't want to see it.

2 weeks down the line I go back and I'm like omoo this is good o

I think that's how we deal with our games.

Saudi couldn't string passes fa! In fact the time I saw them dangerous was when Osimhen went out and Moffi took some minutes to enter. If it was us that was outclassed like that we would have cried blood by now.
J Peseiro scorecard with eagles so far is poor.Thank God for São Tomé,eagle would have been on goals deficits with arrays of strikers we have,time to tell ourselves the truth.

Game 11 win 5 draw 1 lose 5 GF 26 GA 15 +11
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:47pm On Oct 13, 2023
Pidginwhisper:
Akpeyi is better than Uzoho. Nothing wey anybody wan tell me
Nobody better pass anybody. We don't have goalkeepers. The earlier we realize the better
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:48pm On Oct 13, 2023
I pity Nigerian man united fans ,people like emeka

Onana go show you shege for club and uzoho go Dey wait for you for country grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 8:49pm On Oct 13, 2023
Na person wey dey complain dey emotional which is you. Na emotional people dey complain for every little things oo. You are the emotional oneoo all these laughing emoji na just facade oo. lolll!
I have answered your last paragraph. He could have sub Sadiq off but cos na friendly and he just brought him on he decided to keep him not to kill his confidence. It was psychological rather than tactical (Human management rather than game management). In an important match the coach would have gone for the former. You get!
charlesemeka85:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 e don tey wey I no Dey put emotions for super eagles games to avoid heart attack 🤣🤣🤣🤣

All I said na how I understood the game from my own perspective and observation

We missed sitters in the first half I agree with you on that, even in the first half we would hv been 3 goals up

But what happened when you are leading a game till the 90th minute and hv just 9 minutes remaining in additional time to kill it off rather conceded few seconds to the end of the game?

Who’s fault is that? And from your own observation do u think jpes did what he was suppose to do as a tactician inorder to kill off the game ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:55pm On Oct 13, 2023
wayodude:
Based on all performances under Jose Peseiro, the Super Eagles will NOT win the next AFCON.

The 2 reasons for this are as follows
1. Refusal to try out fresh options and ideas in midfield. Even when the team starts off on the front foot, once the other team commits more men in the midfield we totally lose control of the game, relying solely on athletism and luck.

2. This one is less of the coach's fault. We simply do not have a reliable option in goal. You cannot win anything without a decent goalkeeper. Nothing. Left to me I will start afresh in that position inviting 3 new options from the local league. They CANNOT be worse. I have seen Amas Obasogie of Bendel Insurance in the CAF Confederation Cup and he has to be involved.

My third point is not really a reason why we won't win the AFCON, but, I think the team dynamic is better without Osimhen. Maybe better for the team if he comes from the bench in the second half.

Sha, we are in trouble.

I disagree. Osimhen has been consistent in performing for the SE. Chukwueze is the one who is off and on and mostly off.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:55pm On Oct 13, 2023
Kog45:
J Peseiro scorecard with eagles so far is poor.Thank God for São Tomé,eagle would have been on goals deficits with arrays of strikers we have,time to tell ourselves the truth.

Game 11 win 5 draw 1 lose 5 GF 26 GA 15 +11
Thank God for Sao Tome ke grin

Is the team creating chances? Will he score for them? Is there a potent goalscorer he has not invited?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 8:56pm On Oct 13, 2023
In the second half, long before they scored and any subs had been made, the Saudi's had totally seized control of the midfield.

The reason for this was simply their manager realised they were being overrun and needed to bolster their midfield and he did that by pushing a defender into midfield and going for a higher press. After they did that we couldn't get out of our half for almost 20 mins.

Their goal was coming.

These friendlies are both about understanding the deficiencies in the team and the result. The current goalkeeping situation is fatal to any team with ambition. The look on Ndidi's face was mirrored all over living rooms and viewing centres in the country.

The manager's ability to proactively manage a game is also seriously suspect.

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