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zoghys:
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Why then give advice to atiku's team when in your own wisdom you think PBAT is a certificate forger. Don't it appeal to your common sense that you can't forge what you rightfully own. The salient points in the unnecessary drama are did tinubu ever attend and graduated from CSU which is in the affirmative, is he the same person, which is a yes, but not a yes daddy situation, does the school recognize the use of third party vendors to issue certificate to past students, which is also affirmative. In Nigeria, politics defiles plain logic, so I won't be perturbed if you let some unsuccessful politicians continue to manipulate your sensibility to launch a dead political career. Let the supreme Court gives it judgement, let all the arguing be done in the court room, shikena

Thanks for this view. How many elections have Dele Momodu won in his life? He is busy moralising but when he was glamourising fraudsters, drug dealers, dubious politicians and business people through his Ovation magazine, he was clean then, abi? Atiku that he supports has a million and one corruption charges and moral issues hanging around his neck. If people don't see politicians for who they really are, i am sorry for them as one side will keep using them against the other. It is what politicians do - go after their self interests alone. The one that is more strategic often wins.

vivalavida:
Oga stop making noise. People like u have refused to read CSU deposition. The school registrar said individuals cannot get certificates from third party directly. Individuals who need replacement certificate has to apply to the school. It is the school that will give the job to a third party. Tinubu has not even collected his original certificate. So what is the need for a replacement certificate? Not collecting the original certificate and his trascript revealing he still has some outstanding criteria to fulfil in the sense that there are some exams he needs to resit should tell you that he never graduated. So stop being clever by half. Tinubu is parading a forged certificate.

You didn't read it well, Tinubu collected the 1979, 1990s replacement but didn't collect 2022 replacement.
I think Tinubu misplaced the original of the 1990 but only get the photocopy of it... Which he gave to his lawyer to contact CSU to certify it for him then submitted to the INEC.

The 2022 diploma was what is in the possession of the Enaharo ( sic).

Tinubu didn't forge the certificate and why CSU can't attest to what he's paraded is because it's a photocopy not original and no institution will affirmed a photocopy of their original under an oath.

Sundaland:
Tinubu Asked to Strip Atiku of GCON National Honour for “not being loyal”…..for going against “National Interest”
Wahala

https://dailypostngr.com/2023/10/tinubu-asked-to-strip-atiku-of-gcon-national-honour-for-going-against-national-interest/

not only GCON but also his clothes too. It doesn't stop Atiku from being a former legitimate vice president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria unlike someone else whose everything is questionable

Anyone with a functional brain would know that FFK has not been saying anything about any Nigeria or foreign matter for the past few months now. Has he commented on Hamas Vs Israel matter too?
Use your brain by yourself, allow these losers to tamper with your mind and you be nothing but a living zombieeeeee!!!!

At what point does one seek for replacement certificate when the original is still in his school file?

i need clarity.

Certificate forgery is certificate forgery whichever way you look at it.

No matter their level of senseless and stupidity in defending nonsense, the likes of ffk and Soyinka knows they just have to tread carefully on that matter.

Of what use then is asking someone to go school and spend donkey years there just to obtain a certificate, if the same certificate can be easily forged and accepted as genuine?

Tinubu the criminal with nine lives, he has always been lucky and taking advantage of our week institutions, but nobody I repeat nobody wins all the time.

Dele Momodu dey look for trouble.

Sundaland:
https://dailypostngr.com/2023/10/dele-momodu-gives-reason-for-fani-kayodes-silence-on-tinubus-certificate-saga/

Dele Momodu Ovation is not there anymore. Na spokesperson you be now.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I know how you feel.

Ffk never see food chop since,if not he would have drop a new single

Sundaland:
https://dailypostngr.com/2023/10/dele-momodu-gives-reason-for-fani-kayodes-silence-on-tinubus-certificate-saga/

Delẹ Momodu is mocking his brother publicly. ; D
They will hold family meeting later today in Ile - Ìfẹ.

walex2:
Fani kayode is not talking again because he was expecting to be appointed as a minister. So he considered all his efforts during the campaign as wasted efforts

This is the main reason why FFK is not talking. FFK will defend anything no matter how bad it is, so long he's given food, money and his desire.

Jackiedemie:
You didn't read it well, Tinubu collected the 1979, 1990s replacement but didn't collect 2022 replacement.
I think Tinubu misplaced the original of the 1990 but only get the photocopy of it... Which he gave to his lawyer to contact CSU to certify it for him then submitted to the INEC.

The 2022 diploma was what is in the possession of the Enaharo ( sic).

Tinubu didn't forge the certificate and why CSU can't attest to what he's paraded is because it's a photocopy not original and no institution will affirmed a photocopy of their original under an oath.

Good summary.
Original 1979 diploma certificate was collected by BAT but that was misplaced or destroyed by Abacha's people while BAT was on exile.
Replacement copy he ordered in the 1990s is likely the one he submitted to INEC.
The one he reordered in 2022 or so is the one in CSU's possession which he hasn't collected.

The CSU registrar couldn't authenticate the 1990s diploma because CSU neither kept records of replacement applications nor do they keep a copy in their records after the student must have collected it. Reason why the Registrar could not 'authenticate' it. The Registrar was also not at the school in the 1990s to know since the school doesn't keep records. The INEC copy shows it was signed by the school officials at that time and looks like diplomas issued at that time. The issue is with the addition of the text 'with Honours' which is only added for students who graduated with honours. Suggests that the sample shown by CSU were for students who didn't graduate with honours. The missing '1867' on the school logo and the 'Dean' text are all explained as the cutting off due to photocopying. The BBC report laid all these out.

FFK is still waiting for appointment

Don't get it twisted.
FFK is only waiting for one big 'jollof rice, before singing praises

This guy don go wake ffk. Noise go many,these upcoming days

Sundaland:
Tinubu Asked to Strip Atiku of GCON National Honour for “not being loyal”…..for going against “National Interest”
Wahala

https://dailypostngr.com/2023/10/tinubu-asked-to-strip-atiku-of-gcon-national-honour-for-going-against-national-interest/

That is impossible... Tinubu will only embarass himself at that.

wrongnumber:
I just don't like this noise.

Yes Tinubu forged it but in the court, matters are judged differently.

People on this forum know I am so against Tinubu and YES As I wrote, Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and I weep for Nigeria for having such a man in Aso Rock.

Nevertheless, has Atiku taken care of all loosed ends?

What if Tinubu says he got the certificate from a third party vendor and goes on to name one, how will Atiku counter this?

The supreme court is not where you go to start arguing nonsense. It is an appellant court and you must go there with all facts.

Festus Keyamo has given Atiku a head start nd Atiku in all his wisdom should know what to do.

Keyamo said and I quote...

"Atiku Should Find Third-Party Vendor Which Issued Chicago University Replacement Certificate To Tinubu, Get It To Deny Its Authenticity –Keyamo"

This is very crucial and not all these noise making by Dele momodu or Atiku.

I expect Atiku to have already asked CSU to give him the list of all the authorized third party vendor and also to have contacted all of them to deny issuing it and that will put Tinubu in a tight corner.

If the Supreme court accepts the evidence and Atiku flops this time again the he should just resign to his fate and I expect David Hudeyin in all his wisdom to know this better.

Furthermore, in the advent that the supreme court does not admit the evidence or rule in Tinubu's favour, they should still go ahead with the Criminal investigation and prosecution of Tinubu by making CSU revoke his degree as well as South West college cos he clearly forged the documents he used to gain admission into Darley college thereby rendering his degree at CSU non and void.

I feel like cursing every one instrumental to allowing this monumental criminal be in charge of Nigeria.

tinubu did not graduate.
go and study the report.

wrongnumber:
I just don't like this noise.

Yes Tinubu forged it but in the court, matters are judged differently.

People on this forum know I am so against Tinubu and YES As I wrote, Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and I weep for Nigeria for having such a man in Aso Rock.

Nevertheless, has Atiku taken care of all loosed ends?

What if Tinubu says he got the certificate from a third party vendor and goes on to name one, how will Atiku counter this?

The supreme court is not where you go to start arguing nonsense. It is an appellant court and you must go there with all facts.

Festus Keyamo has given Atiku a head start nd Atiku in all his wisdom should know what to do.

Keyamo said and I quote...

"Atiku Should Find Third-Party Vendor Which Issued Chicago University Replacement Certificate To Tinubu, Get It To Deny Its Authenticity –Keyamo"

This is very crucial and not all these noise making by Dele momodu or Atiku.

I expect Atiku to have already asked CSU to give him the list of all the authorized third party vendor and also to have contacted all of them to deny issuing it and that will put Tinubu in a tight corner.

If the Supreme court accepts the evidence and Atiku flops this time again the he should just resign to his fate and I expect David Hudeyin in all his wisdom to know this better.

Furthermore, in the advent that the supreme court does not admit the evidence or rule in Tinubu's favour, they should still go ahead with the Criminal investigation and prosecution of Tinubu by making CSU revoke his degree as well as South West college cos he clearly forged the documents he used to gain admission into Darley college thereby rendering his degree at CSU non and void.

I feel like cursing every one instrumental to allowing this monumental criminal be in charge of Nigeria.

you mumu no be small. The law is that 'he who assert must prove ' you expect Atiku to look for vendor that doesn't exist? Besides he never asserted such. You know nothing!

stepaside1:
Good summary.
Original 1979 diploma certificate was collected by BAT but that was misplaced or destroyed by Abacha's people while BAT was on exile.
Replacement copy he ordered in the 1990s is likely the one he submitted to INEC.
The one he reordered in 2022 or so is the one in CSU's possession which he hasn't collected.

The CSU registrar couldn't authenticate the 1990s diploma because CSU neither kept records of replacement applications nor do they keep a copy in their records after the student must have collected it. Reason why the Registrar could not 'authenticate' it. The Registrar was also not at the school in the 1990s to know since the school doesn't keep records. The INEC copy shows it was signed by the school officials at that time and looks like diplomas issued at that time. The issue is with the addition of the text 'with Honours' which is only added for students who graduated with honours. Suggests that the sample shown by CSU were for students who didn't graduate with honours. The missing '1867' on the school logo and the 'Dean' text are all explained as the cutting off due to photocopying. The BBC report laid all these out.

Farooq just aligned with my position now:

The BBC's fact-check of the claims of Tinubu's certificate forgery has changed the conversation. Here's my analysis of the evidence. Plus, an analysis of claims that Atiku also forged his school cert:

Neither Tinubu Nor Atiku Forged Credentials with INEC
By Farooq A. Kperogi
Twitter: @farooqkperogi

The storm over the legitimacy of the credential President Bola Tinubu submitted to INEC has managed to rope in former Vice President Atiku Abubakar who instigated it in the first place. But available facts show that neither of them presented forged documents to INEC.

I go where the facts lead me. That means I could say the opposite of what I said earlier in light of new facts, a reason I advisedly used the expression “the best obtainable version of the truth” in last week’s column. I am not invested in any perspective. Tinubu is an unrelieved catastrophe as a president, but I'll defend the facts even if they favor him.

Here are 7 facts I've found so far after reading and rereading all the facts related to this issue:

1. Tinubu attended and graduated from Chicago State University in 1979, was issued a diploma (or a certificate, to use the expression that’s familiar to Nigerians), which he collected (I erred when I thought the registrar said he didn't; See number 3). Apparently, he lost the original diploma in 1979 and was issued a "replacement diploma dated 27 June 1979," according to the BBC.

2. In the 1990s, he applied for and got a replacement diploma from CSU. Ostensibly, because it looks different from his 1979 diploma (since diplomas bear the signatures of the current president and look like the diplomas issued that year), he got a note from the CSU registrar in 1999 affirming that he indeed graduated from the school in 1979.

3. He lost the original copy of the 1990s replacement diploma (but has a photocopy of it) and, in the 2000s, applied for yet another replacement diploma, which the university issued, but which he didn't collect. I mistook the registrar's reference to this bit during the deposition as him saying that Tinubu did not collecting his 1979 diploma. My apologies.

4. In 2022, Tinubu submitted a photocopy of the 1990s replacement diploma, along with the 1999 "To Whom It May Concern" note from the CSU Registrar, to INEC as the academic credential that qualifies him to run for president.

5. Opposition politicians saw it and said it wasn't similar to diplomas CSU issued in 1979. So, they said it's fake.

6. BBC's Disinformation Team fact-checked the claim and found that it's not fake. It appears fake only because it was reissued in 1998 and the university's logo at the bottom of the diploma was chopped off during photocopying. The BBC says every other detail in the diploma is similar to the diplomas CSU issued or reissued in 1998.

7. The registrar disavowed the photocopied INEC diploma during deposition because of the absence of the logo of the university at the bottom of the diploma, but even he hinted that it "was possibly 'cut off' when it was photocopied." So, it was actually a conditional disavowal.

The Foundation for Investigative Journalism (FIJ) attempted to impeach the credibility of the BBC fact check but failed.

The FIJ said, "Of particular interest was the expression, ‘with honors’, which appeared on the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC. The presence of ‘with honours’ in Tinubu’s certificate is a tautology because the certificate goes on to read, 'with all the rights, honours, and privileges partaining therto'.[sic]. None of the 1990s samples provided by CSU showed those words underneath the course of study, and this suggests that Tinubu’s certificate, which was supposedly obtained within the same timeframe, did not emanate from the school."

That's a problematic claim. "With all the rights, honors, and privileges pertaining thereto" is a fixed phrase that appears on all diplomas irrespective of their class. The addition of "with honors" isn't a duplication because graduating with honors is an academic distinction that only a limited pool of students achieve, and some U.S. universities include it in diplomas in addition to the fixed phrase that appears on all diplomas.

In any case, Tinubu’s uncollected 2000s replacement diploma that the registrar showed during the deposition has both the fixed phrase AND “with honors.”

Similarly, the claim that the samples of replacement diplomas issued in the 1990s don't have "with honors" is a weak argument because CSU only showed uncollected diplomas in its records, not a representative sample of every type and class of diplomas earned or re-issued that year. It could well be that the uncollected diplomas in CSU's records didn't achieve the distinction that entitles them to have "with honors" affixed to them.

Typically, only between 20% and 30% of students graduate with honors in U.S. colleges and universities (except for Ivy League universities that have higher percentages), so it's not a given that the uncollected diplomas in CSU's records will be among the 20% to 30%.

FIJ also said, "Two, whoever created the controversial certificate in Tinubu’s possession copied the template of the 2000s without paying attention to timeframe variations. This is clear in one of the signatures on Tinubu’s certificate. The signature on the right is that of Zaldwaynaka “Z, the current President of CSU, who took office in 2018. A president who took office in 2018 could not have signed a certificate supposedly released in the 1990s."

This claim seems made up because there is no "Zaldwaynaka Z" in the diploma Tinubu submitted to INEC. The photocopied CSU diploma Tinubu submitted to INEC and the samples of CSU diploma replacements from the 1990s are exactly the same except for the missing logo in Tinubu’s copy as a result of photocopying.

The registrar's disavowal of the diploma doesn't invalidate its authenticity because he merely said the photocopy that was shown to him didn't look like diplomas from CSU because of the missing logo. People who have an emotional investment in the idea that Tinubu "forged" a diploma that he validly earned (which is ridiculously excessive legal literalism to begin with) leave out that context and make it seem as if the registrar's words are an inviolable article of faith and not a conditional, context-dependent response to a specific question about a specific photocopied document that doesn't reflect all the features of diplomas CSU issued in 1998 BECAUSE of photocopying.

This issue has demonstrated to me in starkly dramatic terms how partisan blinders can distort people's perception of reality. When people so badly want something to be true, but it turns out to be untrue, they choose to hang on to the most absurd apophenic hallucinations (i.e., seeing predetermined patterns from a chaos of unrelated phenomena) they can invoke to validate their preconceptions. I've studied and taught this phenomenon for years but had never seen it manifest on a mass scale like this.

The only new thing that will change the conversation is a foolproof revelation that Tinubu didn't meet graduation requirements and was issued a fraudulent transcript that said he did—after the fact—by dodgy university officials. That would establish the legal basis for forgery. Given what I am now reading about the school, I won’t be shocked if this happens. So, I think the answer to the puzzle isn't on the surface; it's beneath the surface. Only deep investigation can unearth it.

Finally, the CSU registrar never said, “forgery is a Nigerian thing.” Tinubu sent his lawyer to get copies of his academic records from CSU and requested that the school certify the documents before sending them to him.

Atiku's lawyer asked if CSU had ever certified documents it sent out, and the registrar said, "No, I believe this was made because it is more of a Nigerian thing." So, the "Nigerian thing" he referred to was certifying school records for legal purposes, not forgery.

Atiku’s School Certificate
Tinubu’s minions, in their bid to get even with Atiku, dredged up Atiku’s post-secondary school appellative change and are attempting to pass it off as evidence of school certificate forgery against him. But here are the facts.

Atiku was known as Sadiq (or Siddiq—it doesn’t matter in Muslim northern Nigeria because “Sadiq” and “Siddiq” and all other spelling variants are interchangeable) Abubakar. He was named after Abu Bakr, Islam’s first caliph whom the prophet of Islam nicknamed as "al-Siddiq," which means “the righteous.” So, in Muslim northern Nigeria, every Abubakar (our domestication of Abu Bakr) is a Siddiq and vice versa—just like every Umar is a Farooq and vice versa.

People have asked why Atiku was tautonymous, that is, having the same first and last name— if Siddiq and Abubakar are the same. Well, in the early days of education in Northern Nigeria, people concealed their father’s names in schools to protect them from abuse from classmates. Some used toponyms (i.e., names of places) as their family names (Aminu Kano, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Rabah—before he changed to Bello—are prominent examples).

A few, however, chose the tautonymous route. Among them is former president Muhammadu Buhari. He was named after prolific ninth-century Hadith compiler Muhammad al-Bukhari who was a native of the city of Bukhara in what is now Uzbekistan. Bukhari simply means native of the city of Bukhara. But in northern Nigeria every Buhari is a Muhammad. So, Muhammadu Buhari is effectively a tautonym.

Atiku probably also initially chose the tautonymous route. I don’t know how he came about the name Atiku, but it is the Nigerian domestication of the Arabic name Atiq, which means “ancient.” Some people say it means “freed.” Bangladeshis bear it as Atiqur and Arabs bear it as Atiqullah.

More than anything, though, he swore an affidavit in real time to legalize this change of name. The same can’t be said for Bola Tinubu whom we’ve learned was initially known as Lamidi Amoda Sangodele.

APC didn't give him any appointment.. e still dey pain. Feed him and he will talk.

wrongnumber:
I just don't like this noise.

Yes Tinubu forged it but in the court, matters are judged differently.

People on this forum know I am so against Tinubu and YES As I wrote, Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and I weep for Nigeria for having such a man in Aso Rock.

Nevertheless, has Atiku taken care of all loosed ends?

What if Tinubu says he got the certificate from a third party vendor and goes on to name one, how will Atiku counter this?

The supreme court is not where you go to start arguing nonsense. It is an appellant court and you must go there with all facts.

Festus Keyamo has given Atiku a head start nd Atiku in all his wisdom should know what to do.

Keyamo said and I quote...

"Atiku Should Find Third-Party Vendor Which Issued Chicago University Replacement Certificate To Tinubu, Get It To Deny Its Authenticity –Keyamo"

This is very crucial and not all these noise making by Dele momodu or Atiku.

I expect Atiku to have already asked CSU to give him the list of all the authorized third party vendor and also to have contacted all of them to deny issuing it and that will put Tinubu in a tight corner.

If the Supreme court accepts the evidence and Atiku flops this time again the he should just resign to his fate and I expect David Hudeyin in all his wisdom to know this better.

Furthermore, in the advent that the supreme court does not admit the evidence or rule in Tinubu's favour, they should still go ahead with the Criminal investigation and prosecution of Tinubu by making CSU revoke his degree as well as South West college cos he clearly forged the documents he used to gain admission into Darley college thereby rendering his degree at CSU non and void.

I feel like cursing every one instrumental to allowing this monumental criminal be in charge of Nigeria.

The CSU never endorsed any third party vendors to print their certificates. They even described them as online forgery sites that some folks patronise. Go and verify.

The CSU clearly stated their process for replacements and confirmed that Tinubu has never picked up any certificate from them or applied for any replacement.

Even if third party vendors print certificates, they can only do so after authorisation from the school and the school stated under oath that they did not get any such requests for Tinubu.

A vendor cannot just open shop and begin to print certificates for anyone that comes knocking Do you know what that means?

Maybe I will ask them to print Havard First Class certificate for me too.

Keyamo is lying and deceiving people. The transcript is there for anyone that cares to read. The CSU even stated that they ASSUMED that the Bola A Tinubu on their records is the same as the illegitimate man in Aso Rock.

Meanwhile, can you us how Tinubu graduated in 1970 from a secondary school that was established in 1974? Even the CSU degree was obtained on fraud, forgery and falsehood because Tinubu must have presented fake GCE results to the CSU and deceived the school into granting him admission.

The CSU also stated that they have never issued any certificate to Tinubu so which certificate was Tinubu replacing?

vivalavida:
Oga stop making noise. People like u have refused to read CSU deposition. The school registrar said individuals cannot get certificates from third party directly. Individuals who need replacement certificate has to apply to the school. It is the school that will give the job to a third party. Tinubu has not even collected his original certificate. So what is the need for a replacement certificate? Not collecting the original certificate and his trascript revealing he still has some outstanding criteria to fulfil in the sense that there are some exams he needs to resit should tell you that he never graduated. So stop being clever by half. Tinubu is parading a forged certificate.

I know you hate Tinubu but you are so embarrassing to make the above statement, Stop spewing bare face lies which your hate is parading as truth!

Ask your self:

How will a school issue you a certificate and confirmed you graduated if you still have outstanding exams to resit?

Is that what you read in the CSU deposition? Can you point to us in the deposition if you actually read it where the school submitted that Tinubu did not graduate nor fulfilled requirements for certificate issuance?


The school confirmed Tinubu graduated and issued a certificate to him having fulfilled requirements for such.

Oh I get it now, you are suffering from chronic selective dissonance to accentuate your irredeemable hate for a man who resoundly defeated your candidate at the polls.

Quite understandable!

He is only keeping quiet because of hunger. Upon all the noise and barking from last time, he has not been given appointment. You still expect him to keep barking?

Sundaland:
https://dailypostngr.com/2023/10/dele-momodu-gives-reason-for-fani-kayodes-silence-on-tinubus-certificate-saga/

Same old fools! If you are given largesse now and with probably juicy appointment by Tinubu, this idiot will surely sing praises of Tinubu. Birds of a feather....,

wrongnumber:
I just don't like this noise.

Yes Tinubu forged it but in the court, matters are judged differently.

People on this forum know I am so against Tinubu and YES As I wrote, Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and I weep for Nigeria for having such a man in Aso Rock.

Nevertheless, has Atiku taken care of all loosed ends?

What if Tinubu says he got the certificate from a third party vendor and goes on to name one, how will Atiku counter this?

The supreme court is not where you go to start arguing nonsense. It is an appellant court and you must go there with all facts.

Festus Keyamo has given Atiku a head start nd Atiku in all his wisdom should know what to do.

Keyamo said and I quote...

"Atiku Should Find Third-Party Vendor Which Issued Chicago University Replacement Certificate To Tinubu, Get It To Deny Its Authenticity –Keyamo"

This is very crucial and not all these noise making by Dele momodu or Atiku.

I expect Atiku to have already asked CSU to give him the list of all the authorized third party vendor and also to have contacted all of them to deny issuing it and that will put Tinubu in a tight corner.

If the Supreme court accepts the evidence and Atiku flops this time again the he should just resign to his fate and I expect David Hudeyin in all his wisdom to know this better.

Furthermore, in the advent that the supreme court does not admit the evidence or rule in Tinubu's favour, they should still go ahead with the Criminal investigation and prosecution of Tinubu by making CSU revoke his degree as well as South West college cos he clearly forged the documents he used to gain admission into Darley college thereby rendering his degree at CSU non and void.

I feel like cursing every one instrumental to allowing this monumental criminal be in charge of Nigeria.

you have basically just re-echoed what I said in another thread over a week ago, almost to a T.💯

Treadway:
Unless Atiku has another document that is an ace up his sleeve, that hasn't been released yet, then this is a glorified waste of time. PO my guy, like I said earlier don't bother with the SC trip. Let Nigerians face whatever they wanna face btw now and 2027. Be a vibrant and visible opposition (no disappear like Jimi Agbaje), then come back in 2027 and hope more people would have learnt a thing or two from the kin tins wey their eyes go see btw now and then.

* New evidence will not be admitted
* Even tho we know there was a forgery of that doc likely done right here in Nigeria, you can't prove it, cos the registrar said under oath that third parties issue replacement certificates...perfect escape route. Whatever discrepancies can not be attributed to him but the third party who supposedly issued the cert. Case closed
* Govt College Lagos,...that one na between him and CSU. Nigeria can't assume jurisdiction in that instance and based on that point alone. If he submitted that form to a Nigerian University and claimed to grad from Govt College when he didn't, then Nigeria has jurisdiction for a case like that.
* Claim that he is an American citizen cos he ticked black American on one of the forms. No evidence he has an American passport...there was no other box to tick that would have been MOST applicable to him, based on that form I saw. There was no box for 'African' or 'Other' to tick. Correct me if I'm wrong.

All in all, even with something strong I wouldn't hold my breath on the supreme court doing anything to a sitting president, much less this one wey no strong. The school bailed their student, BUT we know that school sef dem be crook. Unfortunately we can't prove it.

Meanwhile, how Dele go dey use FFK as an example in this kin light... pontificating like FFK has integrity or any sort of values. FFK isn't talking cos no one is paying for him to talk yet. Dude is for hire. Pay him and see him defend this like his life depends on it. FFK wey no get any sort of integrity or shame. Lol

greggng:
When fani kayode couldn't talk again ..I know something is fundamentally wrong.

Nothing is wrong with FFK. Na because they never give am food to chop yet. Wait till they give him food to chop and come and see him in his colours. He abuse the hell out of everybody

FFK werey.

wrongnumber:
I just don't like this noise.

Yes Tinubu forged it but in the court, matters are judged differently.

People on this forum know I am so against Tinubu and YES As I wrote, Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and I weep for Nigeria for having such a man in Aso Rock.

Nevertheless, has Atiku taken care of all loosed ends?

What if Tinubu says he got the certificate from a third party vendor and goes on to name one, how will Atiku counter this?

The supreme court is not where you go to start arguing nonsense. It is an appellant court and you must go there with all facts.

Festus Keyamo has given Atiku a head start nd Atiku in all his wisdom should know what to do.

Keyamo said and I quote...

"Atiku Should Find Third-Party Vendor Which Issued Chicago University Replacement Certificate To Tinubu, Get It To Deny Its Authenticity –Keyamo"

This is very crucial and not all these noise making by Dele momodu or Atiku.

I expect Atiku to have already asked CSU to give him the list of all the authorized third party vendor and also to have contacted all of them to deny issuing it and that will put Tinubu in a tight corner.

If the Supreme court accepts the evidence and Atiku flops this time again the he should just resign to his fate and I expect David Hudeyin in all his wisdom to know this better.

Furthermore, in the advent that the supreme court does not admit the evidence or rule in Tinubu's favour, they should still go ahead with the Criminal investigation and prosecution of Tinubu by making CSU revoke his degree as well as South West college cos he clearly forged the documents he used to gain admission into Darley college thereby rendering his degree at CSU non and void.

I feel like cursing every one instrumental to allowing this monumental criminal be in charge of Nigeria.

I appreciate your submission but two things;;

1. If that replacement was issued by an authorized vendor to CSU, CSU has no legal standing to say they do not recognize the certificate, except they are trying to cover up Tinubu.
Any certificate collected legally from a third party belongs to CSU and they must own it.

2. CSU, having disowned that certificate, the burden of proof shifts to Tinubu to mention that third party vendor that he got his certificate from. All Atiku needed to do was to get CSU to disown the certificate and they did that.
It is now Tinubu who should mention that third party not Atiku.