Unfortunately, Canada is not US. Nothing like hustle without proper document. Again visiting visa is not a relocation visa. If you spend the 6 months in Canada at once, you better have detailed explanation on what you were doing in Canada when you want to re-enter. Your 10 years visa may be canceled at the time of entry. Does Canada give visa beyond the validity of once passport? How come you got 10 years visa?

PoliteActivist:


Exactly what I've been told. The word "hustle" keeps comming up if I were to choose Canada

PoliteActivist:


Not only that, the salary quickly goes to N1m... but my feet are itchy and I have these Cana dreams!

I will not advise you to go to Canada. We just finished a webinar on relocation, ALL the participants from Canada are regretting ever going there especially at this moment. Canada was good, but they are undergoing a serious economic crisis, housing has sky rocketed. You need at least three jobs to stay put. On average salary u will spent almost 70% of it on rent. You need other jobs to take care of other bills. Something terrible is currently happening there. But if you want to relocate you can check other countries that are still okay, that are not undergoing any economy crisis. Cos it won't be good to go with your small change and have to spend it all without even fully settling. I will advice you take that job. Your life is set already. You can go to any country for vacation u like with that salary and you will live large in Nigeria. Before you can live large in Canada it ll tale years or the mighty grace of God... u ll only be working hard to keep up with the bills. If you have a car, car insurance alone is 500 dollars monthly. That's almost a small car in Nigeria. This means Before u finish paying your bills, buy a car and pay for everything to drive a car in Canada will not be Bean's. But in Nigeria all these are already made for you.

PoliteActivist:


Please understand I already have my ticket and these ideas. Otherwise it'd have been a much easier decision

thread carefully , so you don;t join the league of "abroad is harder than Nigeria".

A visitor visa is likely not easy to use to secure a job abroad.

PoliteActivist:


Oh, said that right at the beginning
Software development, "software development support analyst" in this particular case. And the salary quickly goes to 1m, then 1.5m

Thanks.

This is just funny to read shaaa. Even as a young person and unmarried, 500k isn’t a big amount. Yes I know it’s not common, but it’s not a huge amount of money.

How much is rent sef? Cos of living no be beans for NAIJA. That 500k isn’t so big. That just about the pay for beginning intermediate level range in quite a number of IT places in Lagos. Don’t know about other states.

Canada is easily the choice here

YourGFsnatcher:

I will not advise you to go to Canada. We just finished a webinar on relocation, ALL the participants from Canada are regretting ever going there especially at this moment. Canada was good, but they are undergoing a serious economic crisis, housing has sky rocketed. You need at least three jobs to stay put. On average salary u will spent almost 70% of it on rent. You need other jobs to take care of other bills. Something terrible is currently happening there. But if you want to relocate you can check other countries that are still okay, that are not undergoing any economy crisis. Cos it won't be good to go with your small change and have to spend it all without even fully settling. I will advice you take that job. Your life is set already. You can go to any country for vacation u like with that salary and you will live large in Nigeria. Before you can live large in Canada it ll tale years or the mighty grace of God... u ll only be working hard to keep up with the bills. If you have a car, car insurance alone is 500 dollars monthly. That's almost a small car in Nigeria. This means Before u finish paying your bills, buy a car and pay for everything to drive a car in Canada will not be Bean's. But in Nigeria all these are already made for you.

While there are issues currently, you just exaggerated a lot of things you wrote.
Insurance is not $500 monthly, I don't know where you got that info. Besides, 2 people can have exactly the same car but pay different insurance premiums due to their individual driving records,location and license.

Secondly you said he can go to vacation to any country he likes with that salary, are you for real? How can 500k naira or 1m salary take you to vacation to any country? Do you realize that 1m is less than 1k USD, have you checked flight tickets lately?

He is been advised not to go to Canada and instead take the job because he has a visit visa not cos of the reasons you stated above. The exaggerated reasons you stated above is not enough not to go if he had a PR and has factored in the big picture.

Now, every country has issues from time to time. The difference between first world and third world countries like Nigeria is the ability to confront and solve the issues. In 2008, there was an economic crash in the west, years after the recovered and started booming again. People who migrated in 2008 despite having it rough at that time are all balanced now. So having problems are not new but trust me, 2 to 3 years from now, these issues will become old story, that is the advantage of first world countries. If the current government can't solve it, we vote them out.

The same thing can't be said for Nigeria. The problems of 1999 have not been solved and has continue to pile up more problems every year and every administration. If you have noticed every past administration is always better than the current one since 1999. Unfortunately as a country, we can't even remove a nonperforming government so the chances of ever solving Nigeria problems is very low.

Inflation in Canada currently is around 4% and everyone is angry. You can feel the anger everywhere, the current government is sweating and under pressure, the opposition is currently leading in the polls and favored to win the next election. In Nigeria where inflation is up to 30% for only God knows when, I don't see the level of anger I see in Canada, the leaders are so comfortable, no pressure on them at all, I don't know how they will be serious in solving Nigeria problems.

In summary, the current economic climate in Canada is tough at the moment but we are happy it's going to be temporary as both ruling and opposition parties are trying to address the issues. If you want to migrate legally and you have crossed your i's and dotted your T's , don't be deterred. By the time this current issues are resolved, there may not be oportunnities to migrate again. They may reduce or change their immigration targets and make it harder for people to migrate. Immigration is not static, it can change at any time.

Ook. I quite understand you now. Sorry, one chance will never locate you(I take it back). It's just that, our country isn't countrying the way a country should country. If you have a better life here..then you're good to stay. Cuz most people out there hustling abroad is for a better life here upon retirement. So, you're a step ahead. As for me. If I see a slavery job abroad, I'm gone!

PoliteActivist:


I actually already have a fairly good life here, only to get better. One chance will never locate me, neither does nepa concern me

PoliteActivist:

Whereabouts in Canada are you?
The way you said "I live there" instead of "I live here" Hmmm

Dey monitor English … I Dey where I Dey

gammarays:

Flight fees alone is another unless you want to go and come back

Meaning? Which kain flight fees?

arad82:
I accept the job, add little more experience to your resume , think about the better one after two months .take your final decision .the only thing you will be losing know is your plane ticket.

Actually very good advice on the face of it. Only thing is, IF I go with the job I need more than two months - the salary quickly goes to 1m then 1.5. What I really need is a crystal ball on Cana. My life here is honestly not bad at all. Don’t want to suddenly go from eating on table to eating on floor!

PoliteActivist:


I have a proper Canadian visa, a friend I can stay with, and some tech connections. That's it

It seems everything is already figured out in Canada. It's safe to say u can go

PoliteActivist:


Meaning? Which kain flight fees?

Check am nah
If you got the funds for a tourist visit, you can go and come back 😊
Na part of Life

PoliteActivist:


Actually very good advice on the face of it. Only thing is, IF I go with the job I need more than two months - the salary quickly goes to 1m then 1.5. What I really need is a crystal ball on Cana. My life here is honestly not bad at all. Don’t want to suddenly go from eating on table to eating on floor!

I'm not sure what your dilemma is really.
You have a job offer in Nigeria and you wanna hope on crystal ball for Canada
All you have is Canadian visit visa..it means nothing.
Doesn't give a job,
No access to housing,
No benefits
Nada
You can't convert VV to work permits ( and please ignore any info that you can use LMIA yada yada biko).

Tech connections and so what? You're not going there with resident permit so how does that help. You know you can work remote with tech regardless of your location

What hustle? Do you know where you're going. It's Canada..which yeye hustle?

If you wanna visit Canada you can go whenever the heck you want.

What is really biting you gan.. saying you'd have to stay in this job for longer than 2months. So..what's wrong with that? Doesn't the job give vacation time? Did they say you can never go on leave? They are even providing housing , etc

It is coming across as if if you don't travel now life go quench.

PoliteActivist:


Please understand I already have my ticket and these ideas. Otherwise it'd have been a much easier decision

So what?
Change your ticket dates...most airlines will do that.

Speak with HR that you have a prescheduled vacation and ask when would you be able to take that leave. Let them give you that time frame and book your tkt for that time.

cyberguy72:
Just go to YouTube and watch videos on why immigrants are leaving Canada in large numbers..it wud help u make ur mind.

I don't trust YouTube o, but I get your point. Even my folks over there, there’s just something that sours people about the place

otunbadan:


You ma self are asking online warriors with different opinions and u are giving the details in a flash ....
1. If its visitor visa, don't come ... use you job hold body first .... if you have visitors visa, visit and go back , (its out of the ordinary to have visitor's visa changed to any other type)

2. If its student visa, hold enough money for up keep because finding a job is not easy ( but if na weather you go find, you will, but depending on the time and skill set, but u most find job but i will take a while)

3. If any of the above is still in doubt in terms of resources available, better don't come

BUT IT WON"T CHANGE THE FACT THAT DOLLAR WILL HIT 2K FASTER THAN WE THOUGHT AND THAT ALONE, together with Nigeria being Nigeria,

CANADA IS A FAR BETTER PLACE IF YOU READY TO START LOW AND build ooo !!!

NO bodies father kept land for his to just come and inherit in Canada

Thanks a lot. Seems to me you folks over there are all disillusioned to some extent. What exactly is that big downside - aside cold weather which I hate

PoliteActivist:


Thanks for your sincere advice. I'm not into programming. Thing is, I want to leave NOW, and those there are advising against it. I already have my tickets and ideas, that's one thing they don't understand

Which area of IT are you into?
However, those that are advising you against it will not think twice about it or seek advice before dey relocate. Don't you feel this might lead to suicidal thoughts or serious depression when after rejecting the Canada visa, the Nigeria company folds up or sack you in few months time ?

Well just pray about it and make your decision and be ready to man up and take the responsibility if it didn't go as planned.

Taal17:


So what?
Change your ticket dates...most airlines will do that.

Speak with HR that you have a prescheduled vacation and ask when would you be able to take that leave. Let them give you that time frame and book your tkt for that time.

It's not that kind of ticket - changing the date plus fees, etc amounts to paying almost full price again. They offered insurance whereby you can change the date but I didn't take it

Taal17:


I'm not sure what your dilemma is really.
You have a job offer in Nigeria and you wanna hope on crystal ball for Canada
All you have is Canadian visit visa..it means nothing.
Doesn't give a job,
No access to housing,
No benefits
Nada
You can't convert VV to work permits ( and please ignore any info that you can use LMIA yada yada biko).

Tech connections and so what? You're not going there with resident permit so how does that help. You know you can work remote with tech regardless of your location

What hustle? Do you know where you're going. It's Canada..which yeye hustle?

If you wanna visit Canada you can go whenever the heck you want.

What is really biting you gan.. saying you'd have to stay in this job for longer than 2months. So..what's wrong with that? Doesn't the job give vacation time? Did they say you can never go on leave? They are even providing housing , etc

It is coming across as if if you don't travel now life go quench.

Honestly, @bolded is actually how I feel, the ground is burning under my feet. But even my prospective hosts over there advice delay, which I'm not sure I can handle

ecdcyber:
You are on visitor visa!!! DO NOT try to come to Canada, you cannot do anything! Please embrace your job in Nigeria, save money and plan to come to Canada either as pr or study

Actually if it were just 500k I won't hesitate. It's other benefits attached to it.. Plus the salary quickly goes to 1m then 1.5, which I decided not to mention here

PoliteActivist:


Oh, it is multiple entry. I can be in Canada for six months at a time, valid for 10 years

Then go for a visit and return to your work later in Nigeria.

You may be able to deduce whether you would like to live there or not.

Since it’s a 10-year multiple entry visa, you can plan your relocation well after several visits to Canada because you have would have had some first-hand Indians experiences.

You have got nothing to loose on both sides , as of now.

Intrepid01:
It is obvious that most of the stories on Nairaland are false. Like which company in Nigeria gives a car to a staff that earns meager #500k? Do you know that for a standard organization that is truly buoyant anyone earning #500k is below an Assistant Manager level? So who offers a car as part of benefit to someone below that level?

Just joking 🙃 It could be this old Honda City pool-car put in his care to make the OP feel important and stay longer in the company.

Let him go on a visit like two or 3 times. He would have experienced it than imagined it. Then he can decide.

PoliteActivist:


It's not that kind of ticket - changing the date plus fees, etc amounts to paying almost full price again. They offered insurance whereby you can change the date but I didn't take it

This I can understand
Speak to the airline
Typically the cost should be change fee plus any difference in price in tkt price from the original date to new date.
Usually most tickets are valid for 1 year.

Consider say a 6months delay for departure that should be spring next year..that should be low season. Find out the price for that time.

Intrepid01:
It is obvious that most of the stories on Nairaland are false. Like which company in Nigeria gives a car to a staff that earns meager #500k? Do you know that for a standard organization that is truly buoyant anyone earning #500k is below an Assistant Manager level? So who offers a car as part of benefit to someone below that level?

It's not new, very possible
I got a car..there are managerial cars and there are functional cars.
Managerial was because of your position, functional was because of your job function required a car. This is very different from pool cars that had a driver.
I could use the car at weekend and my personal time. Got a stipend for fuel however repairs were done by the office. However they will not use company money to replace anything broken or spoilt outside work hours

PoliteActivist:


Honestly, @bolded is actually how I feel, the ground is burning under my feet. But even my prospective hosts over there advice delay, which I'm not sure I can handle

If this is the case.

Separate yourself, plug out ALL distractions and ssit down to reflect for ONE day.
No social media, nairaland, Instagram, WhatsApp
No internet sef.
If you're a praying man pls pray ask God to shine light on WHY you feel this way.

Reflect
Use 5 whys ( basically interrogate yourself with each answer) nd write it down.
When you're done assess whether your final answer has any merit

PoliteActivist:


Thanks a lot. Seems to me you folks over there are all disillusioned to some extent. What exactly is that big downside - aside cold weather which I hate

Canada that has a system you can tell you self … “I want to achieve this or that “ and push for it … you won’t have to deal with bad economic instability or Nepa or traffic or police harassment … no worry, people are just consoling themselves … but to go the Canada still no easy for common man o

directonpc:

If the visa you're going with allows you to work (it's not a tourist visa) you should be able to work tech hubs if you already have the skills and experience.

It is a TRV, a visitor visa, said that right at the begining!

Pharaohny:


better japa before that your $490.19 dollar turn something else

i wonder how this is a dilemma there are no even basis for comprism

janda1:


Brother move out don't stay in Nigeria

You are going for visiting visa and it's 10yrs

If you start working on side hustle, you can negotiate with your boss for hand to hand cash to avoid the tax deduction or open a bank dollar account here in Nigeria before moving so that they can pay you into the account to avold the tax deduction

If you get sack in Nigeria, there is no more job for you but if you get sack in Canada you will go outside and work till you get a new job

Boss use your head 500k is $500, for side hustle job you will get if you are serious and ready to work you can earn more than $3000-4000 monthly for side hustle job without you paying tax , if you can pack shift wella

You can now use that money to invest in Nigeria in real estate in Lagos be wise boss

Nigeria is getting worst every day

I wish I was in your opportunity, I will not even think twice, I will move out because you have family there that can get you side hustle job before arriving

If it's kitchen job take it and hustle your life up

Kitchen job would earn you more money than 500k in a month

RapportNaija:
You'll stay back in Nigeria because of 500 USD? What's wrong with you?

Tech oh, tech that could pay you $3,000-10,000 pee month remotely - just because you're based in Canada!

Omo!

My prospective hosts over there and other people in the know are the ones advising delay, which I loathe - village people and all.
I don't think you folks watched this video below. Also, as I've said severally, the salary quickly goes to 1m, then 1.5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mN6CjcKab0?si=I1ZXdifUeRGzB18q

Intrepid01:
It is obvious that most of the stories on Nairaland are false. Like which company in Nigeria gives a car to a staff that earns meager #500k? Do you know that for a standard organization that is truly buoyant anyone earning #500k is below an Assistant Manager level? So who offers a car as part of benefit to someone below that level?

My friend read and think well sometimes b4 you comment or someone may call you and idiotic mumu. As I've said severally the salary is probationary and quickly goes to 1m then I.5. And there ARE 500K jobs that come with car allowance or company car. You don't know anything

elbulk:

Do this job for a while and save as much as you can since you already have a visa. Even if you have a place to stay, you need a good amount to keep yourself out there.

That's what people already there advice, also people in the know. But I honestly don't think I can do it. Canada is already too interwoven in my thinking. Not just Canada, but Canada NOW!

MT:


I don't see a dilemma here. Your type of visa wont allow you to do the kind of job you seek. If you go to Canada on the basis of that visa, you wont be employed in tech.

You need to be REALISTIC in order not to lose all. When I say all, I mean being stuck in Canada illegally AND not being able to practice your craft.

This is the time NOT to allow your emotion to be ahead of your rational thinking. Stop listening to individuals whose experience of plane is by just seeing it flying in the sky. It is your life, handle it well.

This is what all in the know are advising, but I already have my ticket and serious itchy feet, then there's village people!

Santa2:

Based on the assumption you are under 30 , write IELTS and get in the Pool for Express entry, while applying for schools for further studies. Use your job and save for plan for relocation. Its not a race but a maraton, How you relocate is very important, going and doing all those under the table jobs and not having right to work can put kill your canadian dream. PLAN WELL! PLAN WELL!!. While you are on visit visa, you can make trips to canada and connect with companies that can sponsor you. They allow it for now, though I do no think this would last for long.

Thank you very much for your very sincere and thoughtful advice. That's also about the advice I get from people actually there and those in the know. But you do understand I already have my plane ticket and already have in my head ideas and dreams centered around Cana