TenQ:

Islam is an example of brainwashing.

When a Falsehood is repeated almost daily and consistently, I the lie seem to look like the truth. Even though the behavior of Mohammed is worse than that of a typical contemporary Muslim, Book they still believe that one certain angel Jibril came to him and gave him the Qur'an.

On this Falsehood every other lie they promote is based

MightySparrow:



Angel Jubril of Sudan.
The same angel told Mohammed that the land of Israel will be given to Palestinians against the prophecies of Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zephaniah, Michal, zechariah, and Jesus. Those people believe such lies to their own peril. Israel will wipe HAMAS out. If care is not taken, Palestinians will be homeless.

TenQ:

Is there any hadith to this effect or as usual they have manufactured a new prophecy?

MightySparrow:


It was implied in this lecture delivered by one sheikh.
https://www.nairaland.com/7871691/holy-land-righteous-servants-shall

TenQ:

A waster of time as usual.
The post hardly need any response as the Qur'an had to be twisted to fit a book of their interest.
I doubt if their exist a single hadith or Qur'an that support this view

MightySparrow:


From all indications, it was recently fabricated to deceive their ummah to destruction.

Lielam at its best.

TenQ:
*Why does Allah copy Jesus?
*Who said these words: Jesus or Allah?
*Who is copying who in this message?

Background Summary:
1. It is the day of Judgement
2. God is on the throne and judging the acts of men (sons of Adam) .
3. God says "I was sick but you didn't visit me!"
And the Unrighteous replied :
"You are the Lord of the World's: when did we see you sick but you didn't visit you? "
4. God says that He is the neighbour who these men did or did not give their help.
5. God says: If these men had helped their neighbours, they would have found out it was God they were helping

I am sure most Muslims have not heard this hadith before.

Here is the narration from Allah according to Mohammed SAW


Sahih Muslim 2569
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying:
Verily, Allah , the Exalted and Glorious, would say on the Day of Resurrection: O son of Adam, I was sick but you did not visit Me. He would say: O my Lord; how could I visit Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine was sick but you did not visit him and were you not aware of this that if you had visited him, you would have found Me by him? O son of Adam, I asked food from you but you did not feed Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I feed Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? He said: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine asked food from you but you did not feed him, and were you not aware that if you had fed him you would have found him by My side? (The Lord would again say: ) O son of Adam, I asked drink from you but you did not provide Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I provide Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Such and such of servant of Mine asked you for a drink but you did not provide him, and had you provided him drink you would have found him near Me.


This hadith above is repeated with slightly different wordings in
1. Hadith 18, 40 Hadith Qudsi
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah
2. Mishkat al-Masabih 1528
On the authority of Abu Huraira

Here is Jesus saying a more detailed version of the narration in the Bible.

Mat 25:31-46:
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, and fed you? or thirsty, and gave you drink? When saw we you a stranger, and took you in? or naked, and clothed you? Or when saw we you sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me. Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungered, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then shall he answer them, saying, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."

We can see that these storylines are very similar to each other. The narrators are Jesus and Allah.



Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allāh - Allāh has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.




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TenQ:

But the Qur'an is also a Hadith!

It seems you don't know that!


Did Jubril write the Qur'an?
No!
Did any Muslim see Jibril apart from Mohammed?
No!

So, what is the Quran?

It is the report written down from the testimony of Mohammed and it has its Isnad just like any other hadith.

Too bad!

Bliss52:


You started with sense try and not get sentimental and start insult

Gabriel, Jubril gave Mohammed Quran only an idiot would even dispute that

Assuming you are not an idiot then don't demonize anybody's Religion or Quran by linking it to Satan

rolams:


You don't know anything about what you are posting here. You go copy the post somewhere and paste here.

You should notice that we don't take you serious anymore.

We just leave you to paste your anyhow article. Keep mentioning me till the last hour, you won't see me say a word.

rolams:


Don't waste your time responding to his message.

advocatejare:

They are copy copy na. Everything about them was copied from others: 5 daily prayers, Ramadan fasting etc

TenQ:
As we know, I the questions have remained unanswered till now


Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?

2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?

3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?

4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?

FxMasterz:


They can't answer the questions.

They'll pretend as though they're deliberately ignoring the posts as one rolams has said up there, but it isn't so. If you make any post they think they can defend, you would see them flexing their muscles. They've scoured the net for answers to this post, they couldn't find anything, hence, their silence. Or how would anyone defend the copycat proofs presented here without sounding foolish?

Rather than re-examine the lies that are being exposed, their priority is to defend a false prophet who calls himself mohammed.

FxMasterz:


They can't answer the questions.

They'll pretend as though they're deliberately ignoring the posts as one rolams has said up there, but it isn't so. If you make any post they think they can defend, you would see them flexing their muscles. They've scoured the net for answers to this post, they couldn't find anything, hence, their silence. Or how would anyone defend the copycat proofs presented here without sounding foolish?

Rather than re-examine the lies that are being exposed, their priority is to defend a false prophet who calls himself mohammed.

rolams:


Continue and congratulations!

TenQ:

Do they want to know the truth that will lead them to their salvation?

It seems not. They think that they can earn their way to the paradise of God with nodding their heads on the ground five times daily even though Allah guarantees them hell fire as a Decree from him.

You are right, when a case is indefensible, they they feign ignorance by feigning blind, deaf and dumb at the same time.

God and his Prophets CANNOT make the kind of mistakes and errors we see Islam

FxMasterz:


They don't care about the truth. They only care about mohammed.

FxMasterz:


Thank you.

We would continue until we're sure that heaven is your home. The devil must lose the battle over your soul. Hell shall not be your portion.

TenQ:


I have asked them repeatedly :
How come the Almighty Allah is copying the original Sayings of Jesus said almost 700 years before Islam. Who is copying who?

A wise man once said:

A Muslim is one who says and live by the mantra :
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind!

FxMasterz:


If only they can sit down and make subjective reviews of what they have been told without allowing any religious bias to becloud their reasoning. Christians are permitted to ask questions in church. They're are not threatened if they decide to leave the faith. This gives room for free thinking. You are never forced to be a Christian. You are a Christian because you chose to. The same does not apply to Islam, that's why Muslims have to reason things out themselves and not be defending Mohammed blindly.

rolams:





One question will destroy all your faith.

After this, I have nothing to comment here.

TenQ:

1. A Cult or a Prison is one in which once you enter, it is impossible for you to Freely take your leave if you don't like the place.
Even in the army, except in times of war, I you can withdraw your appointment.

2. A Party or a partnership of a Business is one in which he you can withdraw your membership at will.

The difference between the two groups is this.

In any association that is to the benefit of the Initiate, Allah he is allowed to leave at will.

Any association that need your membership to survive will never allow you to go because the association was not designed for your benefit.


So is the difference between Islam and Christianity!

FxMasterz:


The bolded is very succinct. Any organization that needs you for its own benefit would never allow you to renounce so easily. All cults are like that.

TenQ:

And this is one of the reasons Islam is a Cult of Mohammed..

Freely you can join but you may disengage at the risk of losing your life.

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061
It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said:
"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.

FxMasterz:


Chai!!

Please, I believe in God's grace and wisdom upon your life.

Can you make a list thread with a topic such as, 'How to know that you're in a cult.' or 'How to know that the region you're practising is a cult.' or '10 Signs that shows that your religion or organization is a cult.' Then, you back it up with sample verses or verdicts from such cults such as the verse you just quoted for Islam. Both Muslims and JWs can benefit from such threads. Especially when you clearly show them that they're being held for the benefit of the cult. I'll supply points for the thread too if the Lord gives me points.

God will certainly help you bro.

TenQ:

I will consider it.
I have previously written a post about Islam being a Cult of Mohammed!

Why Islam is a Cult of Mohammed!
https://www.nairaland.com/7715066/why-islam-cult-mohammed#123576940


JWs can waste your time for Africa!
They don't care one bit about the truth of the scriptures as long it doesn't align with their doctrinal position as dictated by the old men of their governing body

FxMasterz:

Yeah, I can remember reading the post.

You're right about JWs but God would give you the wisdom to handle them.

Courz would readily supply you with quotes from their rules and regulations that would be a big plus for the post. He's very versatile on JW matters.

TenQ:

The Day of the JWs is coming.
I just decided to first concentrate on Muslims and Islam.

Hijab just destroyed Piers Morgan, like he did David Wood - TenQ 's mentor and source. grin

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