Marjoribanks:
😂 Who are you? Endorse Paserio sacking? 😂. You don't even have a say. Go and sit down. Na SunGorilla wey dey hype you I blame. Go remove him!
You too limited to see what Paserio is doing. Winning AFCON competition is never due to good tactics. Luck and players determination with a good goal keeper wins AFCON.
If it is by tactics Senegal won't win the last AFCON. Cameroon won't win 2017. Be humble to learn from those who are better than you.

Baba e sempe now, we are all discussing as fans now no be say we dey collect money for just discussing!!! Chief Major, my fellow ajorosun kadan kadan o, make we do pele-pele. U sabi Lam Adesina jnr for Felele? I be GCI Boi, which school be your own, Ibadan Grams abi Ibadan Bois?

TheSuperNerd:

I expect us to be better in the November games. And hopefully to keep cleansheets. The first 2 WCQ games shouldn't be issues for us if we play to at least 60-70% of our quality on paper.

Boniface is blending on so sharply with the team that his addition is already impactful. That lad alone opens up a lot of options for us on how we can execute a formation plan to see our final third dynamics improve. Credit to Peseiro (who I still don't reckon with) for already placing Boniface above the likes of Moffi and Sadiq (in the Forwards Hierarchy order) despite them being in the team longer than he has.

Onyedika is another lad that I am thankful Peseiro finally gave the chance to marshal plays at the base of our midfield in a FIFA Grade A game. His integration is key as well.


Come what may, Peseiro is the man leading us to CIV whether we play fantastic or rubbish in November. He must finish what he started. Let us hope the best is being saved for the Afcon.

yEAH HAVE you noticed that joe aribo is better off as a mutli-purpose forward than as a midfielder
Against mozambique he actually played well as a forward.
He cannot play midfiled but he will be a fantastic winger or support strier in a 4 4 2 or any formation.
Telling him to play deep in midfield is lie putting Amokachi in midfield because of his workrate.
he is a good weapon when used well.
He may even be a better winger than chukwueze but jp keeps playing him deep in midfield.

Rohr had Mikel, an inform Etebo, Iwobi and an Inform "EPL" Ndidi. That midfield wasn't as abysmal as this one. Rohr's SE in the WCQs leading to Russia 2018 saw our midfield contribute insanely to the best of football that we played.
At Afcon 2019, Iwobi, Ndidi, Etebo did their best despite certain limitations but most certainly wasn't as abysmal as the 2 man midfield setup Peseiro insists on for most games.


But hey, it's the Afcon and Nigeria has a reputation at the Afcon. We almost always get past the group stages without much wahala and we go far. It didn't happen at the last Afcon. Let's hope this will be different especially if we have a Fit Osimhen back.

Osimhen is one of the key determinants to how far this team will go. Osimhen and the GK, Uzoho more than anyone else most likely. Not to say a few others aren't also key but I pick these two as the most key.

Time will tell.

Odunayaw:
Let's agree to disagree on that.

One thing everyone can say is that Rohr didn't have a world beater as a GK. He had shaky Ekong, abysmal creativity in the middle and to cap it up average (at that time, because it fit worse) game management.

Inspite of this he had a medal. I fancy the chances of the present team.

AndSunGorilla:

Baba e sempe now, we are all discussing as fans now no be say we dey collect money for just discussing!!! Chief Major, my fellow ajorosun kadan kadan o, make we do pele-pele. U sabi Lam Adesina jnr for Felele? I be GCI Boi, which school be your own, Ibadan Grams abi Ibadan Bois?

Baba Omo yen ma un soro anyhow. He will start dissing you subtly in his posts if you have a different opinion from his. Igbawo lo bere sin woo ball! Lol 😅. Ese jareee! Dapo na felele OG!
GCI Apata hmmmm! Bawo lese see awon Omo Our Lady ati Queens 👑 😂
I spent few weeks at Loyola College Ibadan before moving to FGC Ogbomoso!

AndSunGorilla:

In no way am I insinuating that you are not a true fan, that's not in dispute in any way, you are a true fan sir. Sometimes and occasionally, certain things happen and they defy logic. Call it pure luck, not sustainable on the long term but luck sometimes shines on the undeserving. Maybe, luck will shine on the SE, odds are against the SE now but like I said earlier, I choose to be optimistic in this case. And I strongly feel it's too late to change the coach before the AFCON.

I grew up in Ibadan and the most famous sports journalist then was a man lnow.as Feyi Ogundiyile, from 1989 when Westerhoff was appointed till 1993, Feyi was on Westerhoff's case, he just never liked him. The highly successful Westerhoff played in 3 AFCONs before he eventually won it in 1994. Mind you he tool over a team that controversially lost to Cameroon in the 1988 finals. I feel we should give JP a little it of time, at least the upcoming AFCON before deciding either to boot him out or give him additional time.
Like we all know, Time is a revealer of all.
One Luv!!!!!

Egbon Feyi Ogundiyile very eloquent man,then I love to watch his sport program on NTA Ibadan channel and I will never forget the day I watched 1988 English FA between Liverpool and Wimbledon through him,then John Fashanu was in top form and Liverpool Bruce Grobellar but it was a goal from Lawrie Sanchez that gave Wimbledon surprised victory.

Yes he never believed in Westerhoff cuz he thought we deserved Senegal 1992 Afcon.

TheSuperNerd:
It is still a lie.

You get time Doc. One who talks too much is bound to 'misyarn'

mostob:
How did we concede 4 goals in both matches if our opponents were only limited to 3 shots on target combined?

His analysis is full of sugar. Make person no go purge

TheSuperNerd:
You can kindly excuse yourself from the analytical dissection of this team since it is all rocket science to you.

Luck indeed. So all you know in football is luck. No need for proper tactical preps. Smh. I was right. You are really delusional. 😂

Ani Ode ni. lol 😂. If it's by only tactics coaches won't buy players that fits into their system however at National team level you have to make do with what you have. No matter your tactics without quality players nor a little luck you can't win nothing and I gave you two examples. But cos you are dull you couldn't decipher what I meant. Suegbe!! lol 😂.

Marjoribanks:
Baba Omo yen ma un soro anyhow. He will start dissing you subtly in his posts if you have a different opinion from his. Igbawo lo bere sin woo ball! Lol 😅. Ese jareee! Dapo na felele OG!
GCI Apata hmmmm! Bawo lese see awon Omo Our Lady ati Queens 👑 😂
I spent few weeks at Loyola College Ibadan before moving to FGC Ogbomoso!

As you can tell, if una put water inside my mouth, you go find am dia, I no know road to Queens School ati Our Lady. Thank God you left LCI, Agodi Gate 4 don make you worse lol. For me, I haven't finished fighting with people I see everyday with my korokoro eyes and I no get energy to fight unseen people online. I have learned to mo iwa fun oniwa and hey at the end of the day, whatever happens here on Nairaland sports forum really has no bearing on my life, am just here to chill, get informed about what I love and have discussions about my favorite team, lobatan.

Mujtahida:

His analysis is full of sugar. Make person no go purge

And this one too study law? I am not surprised the least intelligent na dem we dey pursue go Art class.

Mujtahida:

His analysis is full of sugar. Make person no go purge

Baba Lawyer!!!! I see you!!!!!

AndSunGorilla:

In my opinion, I don't think Akpom is needed currently. Just a few tweaks here and there
1) change the goalie for starters
2) in the absence of Osimhen, Boniface, Moffi and Awoniyi (if fit) are available
3) Give Sadiq some space for now, let him regain match fitness before inviting him again
4) Chuks may be better off starting from the bench
5) I think Nathan Tella should be given an invite too

One Luv and Jah Bless!!!

Hmmm on JPeseiro I don’t have much to say again cuz having two keepers that will can count numbers of matches they have last season and this season none if am right….inviting Sadiq that played nothing last season showed that he was taking things for granted.

AndSunGorilla:

Baba e sempe now, we are all discussing as fans now no be say we dey collect money for just discussing!!! Chief Major, my fellow ajorosun kadan kadan o, make we do pele-pele. U sabi Lam Adesina jnr for Felele? I be GCI Boi, which school be your own, Ibadan Grams abi Ibadan Bois?

wow Awon omo Ibadan! Ewesoooo

Marjoribanks:
And this one too study law? I am not surprised the least intelligent na dem we dey pursue go Art class.

Marjori Wetin happen,pls easy o…calm down abeg

Marjoribanks:
Ani Ode ni. lol 😂. If it's by only tactics coaches won't buy players that fits into their system however at National team level you have to make do with what you have. No matter your tactics without quality players nor a little luck you can't win nothing and I gave you two examples. But cos you are dull you couldn't decipher what I meant. Suegbe!! lol 😂.

Pls are you saying tactics doesn’t do it.

Mujtahida:

His analysis is full of sugar. Make person no go purge

Thank God we have bitter leaf soup merchants on this thread so the purging no go much.

AndSunGorilla:

As you can tell, if una put water inside my mouth, you go find am dia, I no know road to Queens School ati Our Lady. Thank God you left LCI, Agodi Gate 4 don make you worse lol. For me, I haven't finished fighting with people I see everyday with my korokoro eyes and I no get energy to fight unseen people online. I have learned to mo iwa fun oniwa and hey at the end of the day, whatever happens here on Nairaland sports forum really has no bearing on my life, am just here to chill, get informed about what I love and have discussions about my favorite team, lobatan.

Hmmmm! Na real OG response be this! GCI and Yankee based! I know watz up. Na empty barrel dey make much noise.
Sometimes those kids need reality check. In life you can't be always right. Learn to accept others opinions and move.

Odunayaw:
Rohr's decline started from late into 2019 AfconQ. In fact this place was livid when we beat Libya away by the skin of our teeth. It was from then everyone begin to call out Rohr small small.

Also I recall after we huffed and puffed against Madagascar there was no more confidence we were going far. Still recall how tepid we were in the knockouts (save against SA)

No. Rohr's decline started immediately after we qualified for the WC. His pre- world cup friendlies were awful. He started talking negative and poisoned the entire team with his dreary talk.
Then at the world cup we were skreppy. From that point on, it was jaguda football that Rohr made us play.

Kog45:
Pls are you saying tactics doesn’t do it.

I meant there have been many instances where coaches that are not tactical have won AFCON trophies. I listed Senegal 2021 and Cameroon 2017. Sometimes a coach that is not supposedly tactical can win trophies if he has good players including a solid goal keeper and a little luck. Zambia 2012 also comes to mind!
I meant AFCON precisely. The post is there for all to read!

Kog45:
Egbon Feyi Ogundiyile very eloquent man,then I love to watch his sport program on NTA Ibadan channel and I will never forget the day I watched 1988 English FA between Liverpool and Wimbledon through him,then John Fashanu was in top form and Liverpool Bruce Grobellar but it was a goal from Lawrie Sanchez that gave Wimbledon surprised victory.

Yes he never believed in Westerhoff cuz he thought we deserved Senegal 1992 Afcon.

Very eloquent, his shows on NTA Ibadan were my favorites!!!!! But as I get plenty people as egbon, enuf time wey dem.no.allow me watch Feyi then. And to the Senegal 92, we outplayed Ghana in the SFs but lost really to Abedi Pele's brilliance (bad man ). And I lived Westerhoff's Algiers 90 team too, got annihilated in the first game but bounced back and lost narrowly in the finals to Algeria off an Alloy Agu mistake (I would say). Westerhoff unearthed Uche Ukechukwu, handed Mutiu Adepoju his SE invite, brought Finidi George, Friday Elahor, Ben Iroha, Dan Amokachi. Moses Kpakor (should have been our Kante but for Village people) into the national team. Was confident enough to give young folks like Oliseh, Babangida, Okocha, Amuneke an opportunity into the SE. Even Ike Anobi, Westerhoff brought him into the SE, though he couldn't make the 23 man team to the WC because of Rufai, Agboni-basket (RIP) and Alloy Agu. Westerhoff was resident in Nigeria, he would play WAFU tournaments with the local players, same thing Keshi did and while Oboabona and MBA may.not gave lasted, they did.what they needed to do at an important occasion.
Any SE coach we have going forward should also stay back in Nigeria, coach the CHAN team, even WAFU team as well, huge business opportunity dey sef. Westerhoff sold some of the boys he discovered and made cool cash doing that. Am not saying we must have a quota for HB players but any coach of the SE should earn his money and play their part in developing our football.

Kog45:
Marjori Wetin happen,pls easy o…calm down abeg

Egbon! You know say I only come for those who comes for me. I don't find trouble!

AndSunGorilla:

Baba Lawyer!!!! I see you!!!!!

Balance ooo. That's what I look for. Some are too pessimistic. Some too optimistic. But if pressed to choose, I'd go with the optimists oo.

Mujtahida:

No. Rohr's decline started immediately after we qualified for the WC. His pre- world cup friendlies were awful. He started talking negative and poisoned the entire team with his dreary talk.
Then at the world cup we were skreppy. From that point on, it was jaguda football that Rohr made us play.

I wanted to be graceful to Rohr.

I remember the excuses we made up for him before we faced reality. "We are a second half team" blahblah

But we were like a yo-yo, up and down & grinding results until breeze refused to repent from fowl yansh

Kog45:
Hmmm on JPeseiro I don’t have much to say again cuz having two keepers that will can count numbers of matches they have last season and this season none if am right….inviting Sadiq that played nothing last season showed that he was taking things for granted.

But egbon, Sadiq was invited because your son, Evangelist Awoniyi get injury now. For me, yes Sadiq's current invite isn't justified but I believe it's fair game for a coach to have one or two sentimental selections, a lot of coaches do it, what will be bad is if he continues inviting Sadiq if his club situation doesn't change. Is there a chance he invited Sadiq because there was no Musa or Sanusi on the team? Just me thinking out loud sir.

Mujtahida:

Balance ooo. That's what I look for. Some are too pessimistic. Some too optimistic. But if pressed to choose, I'd go with the optimists oo.

Correct!!!!! Am all for balance too.

Marjoribanks:
And this one too study law? I am not surprised the least intelligent na dem we dey pursue go Art class.

Hahaha hahaha hahaha baba calm down na. I didn't disparage you in any way. I try as much as I can to be respectful in my engagements.

I even finished secondary school as a science student. Cleared my papers except math's which I always hated. Wrote jamb twice as a science student and scored 250 twice. Switched to study law two years after leaving secondary school and I studied the Art courses myself. Scored 311 in Jamb and was admitted to study law in ABU.

You be mature guy. Let's leave poto poto play for small small children.

Kog45:
Pls are you saying tactics doesn’t do it.

If I may chime in, tactics are absolutely key but in life, some people say work no be money (ishe ko ni owo), to win tournaments, good tactics and of course luck us required. We see it all the time, I would never forget Nigeria vs Cameroon at the all African games in 91, we had Amuneke, Babangida, John Zaki,.Precious Monye etc on the team, even if a man down (Amuneke got red carded) we totally dominated Cameroon, we lost a penalty, balls were hitting the post, we did everything but score, the only half chance Cameroon had, gbam they scored us and we lost. Several instances were some teams get lucky and others unlucky. I rest my case. In a nutshell, you need both good tactics and luck to win games.

mostob:
Thank God we have bitter leaf soup merchants on this thread so the purging no go much.

Make Darkelf do come. And there's that other colorful guy who always jeers us as Beer parlor analysts. Can't remember his moniker again.

Mujtahida:

Hahaha hahaha hahaha baba calm down na. I didn't disparage you in any way. I try as much as I can to be respectful in my engagements.

I even finished secondary school as a science student. Cleared my papers except math's which I always hated. Wrote jamb twice as a science student and scored 250 twice. Switched to study law two years after leaving secondary school. Studied the Art courses myself. Scored 311 in Jamb and was admitted to study law in ABU.

You be mature guy. Let's leave poto poto play for small small children.

If this is true then why couldn't you comprehend simple 4 line sentence before making a disrespectful remark or you thought I did not see it.

I said our opponents had 3 shots at goal "from open play".
That Olodo Mostob said how did we concede 4 goals then.

Is the phrase "from open play" so hard to comprehend even for you, Mujtahida that made you make that disrespectful statement?!!

Mujtahida:

Hahaha hahaha hahaha baba calm down na. I didn't disparage you in any way. I try as much as I can to be respectful in my engagements.

I even finished secondary school as a science student. Cleared my papers except math's which I always hated. Wrote jamb twice as a science student and scored 250 twice. Switched to study law two years after leaving secondary school and I studied the Art courses myself. Scored 311 in Jamb and was admitted to study law in ABU.

You be mature guy. Let's leave poto poto play for small small children.

Olodumare! Genius full this place o

Mujtahida:

Make Darkelf do come. And there's that other colorful guy who always jeers us as Beer parlor analysts. Can't remember his moniker again.

Na true o...it's been long darkelf abi na Blueelf show up here. I hope he is fine.




Yea... I think Afobear


Man would show up when afcon commences.

mostob:
Thank God we have bitter leaf soup merchants on this thread so the purging no go much.

I am really sorry for your life! Lol 😂. How do you find joy in being supported for being wrong? I am really sorry for Nigeria with people like you and your likes. 😂