SoNature:


That website is used to sharing data (election results) in its raw forms so that interested parties can independently run the calculations. That's what INEC is simply saying and that's exactly what iRev does. Collation, since I have known that word, means to gather something and sum it up. iRev doesn't sum anything. It's just for sharing data in its raw form.

what they want to hear is different ooo they were expecting LP obi to win ahead of PDP APC Neve seen pple who do wild goose chsy like obidients they end up making APC win by spoiling PDP chances.. allow them to rant for nothing

Criminals

OGHENAOGIE:
how is it different when what's on irev was snapped at polling units?? Did LP win on irev?? Or PDP..

were do people check their jamb results on jamb portal or jamb office?, what inec said does it make sense to you, so what is the essence of the irev? What makes sense is what I just said earlier , inec can’t deceive Nigerians twice

INEC is a useless organisation.Yeye people

aswani:


It should be clear to anyone that IREV is a retrospective electoral application.

As proved by the Presidential elections with the application going down and the blurred images, it is not mature enough to be used as an electoral source of truth.

It was never even touted as such except by certain noisy people whose stock in trade was to misinterpret its usage to try and twist things to their own advantage and then abuse and insult anyone that doesn't agree with that warped point of view.

Regardless of how loudly and clearly INEC explain the purpose of IREV, those stiff necked Obidients will not accept it anyway.

For the sake of transparency which the Mr. Omokore mentioned in his speech, the INEC should also create space on the IREV for the uploading of the photos of all the collated results at all the Collation Centers to the IREV TOO (that is: Wards, LGAs, States, Final Collated Results, etc), so that the INEC’s IREV would become the one-and-only true repository for ALL forms of Election Results, as they had rightly accepted at the Tribunal, -- (that the IREV is supposed to be a repository of ALL the election results as outlined in Section-62(2) of the Electoral-Act-2022 -- then, it only means that they have to fully comply with the provisions of that particular section of the Electoral-Act by uploading all the collated results to the repository -- since the Electoral-Act clearly stipulated such.)

Unless the IREV is not actually supposed to be the repository as outlined in the Electoral-Act, then I really wonder the exact reasons (and not excuses) why such an important archive of Election Results should be having blurred images of Election Results uploaded into it.

OGHENAOGIE:
the ones there Ina believe am?? Still going up and down shouting LP won??...

Did anybody doubt the clear visible results??
Nobody even doubted those visible results that we clearly saw mutilations and cancellations (and even correction-fluids) on them..

It is actually only the 18,088 blurred uploaded results, and the over 10,000+plus non-uploaded results (up till this very moment) that we are more concerned about.

Or, are you saying that you believed whatever those blurred and un-uploaded results contained inside them, even without seeing them??
Is that how you believe things.??

BluntCrazeMan:

Unless the IREV is not actually supposed to be the repository as outlined in the Electoral-Act, then I really wonder the exact reasons (and not excuses) why such an important archive of Election Results should be having blurred images of Election Results uploaded into it.

A repository is a place you store information, it doesn't specify when the information is uploaded (i.e real time or delayed) or what you use it for.

I believe, or at least hope that, in time IREV would contain information of all elections dating as far back as those held pre-independence.

The blurred images could be as a result of poor training or undue pressure on the day on the electoral officers. Hopefully IREV will continue to monitor the portal and make the relevant updates where required.

No organisation worth its salt would suddenly switch over to a new system without running both the old and new side by side to ensure the data in both is consistent. As proved by the blurred images, more fine tuning of the overall process of uploading pictorial versions of elecoral results is required.

All of the above isn't even taking into consideration the menace of hackers who can do all sorts of manipulation with images including replacing them in their entirety.

IREV must be here to stay but not yet as a source of real time electoral "truth".

OGHENAOGIE:
was there any difference with what Party agents had??

The experience gathered from the various Governorship Tribunals had shown that those duplicate copies (the originals of them) that were presented by the parties were not clear enough..
And thus, those copies were not admitted by those various petition tribunals.

So, you see..
The duplicate copies of the parties might not be a good evidence to prove anything..

OGHENAOGIE:
even in America paper voting still exists... U and ur family na Ina Sabi sha other's ll vote... U guys should have told Obi to stay in PDP rather than use LP to divide votes for opposition hence gifting APC a second term.. the elections were the best we have since creation of nigeria.. u are free to disagree

Doesn't Obi have his personal choice to Join Any Party He Likes?

Why are you making it sound like as if Obi committed a crime here by leaving PDP.??

APC has won.
That's good for them.

Mistakes of February and March 2023 is what we are seeking for how to correct,, and not to cry over.
Unless you're a PDP guy,, then sorry for you.
You can continue to cry.

OGHENAOGIE:
how do u collate with snap results.. do u guys reason at all or just trying to sound woke..

So the image you saw up there is not a collated result?.. the totalled numbers were not from same snapped results?.. we all know the truth.

BluntCrazeMan:


Source:
https://punchng.com/irev-not-election-results-collation-system-inec-clarifies/

To be very frank,, INEC is not educating the populace enough with regards to how the election technologies work..
INEC really need to loud all these things very very well.
And they should let Nigerians to understand that the IREV is just for Verification Purposes.
And not for Collation Purposes..

"Omokore said that from the inception of elections in Nigeria, results were transmitted manually, from the PUs to the collation centres."
Omokore wants a country stuck in the 20th century: all because he wants results of polling units transmitted manually and counted manually. Tufiakwa. These people have turned Nigeria to a hell on earth.
May this Omokore get the type of country different from other Nigerian groups who want to opt out of his type of country.

OGHENAOGIE:
what they want to hear is different ooo they were expecting LP obi to win ahead of PDP APC Neve seen pple who do wild goose chsy like obidients they end up making APC win by spoiling PDP chances.. allow them to rant for nothing

I see where you belong..
I now see where your pain is coming from..

I don't want to be the one to tell you that PDP were the ones who spoiled their chances.

Wiike made it very clear that Peter Obi cannot give PDP the victory they deserved, and they agreed to that.
So, if you're Peter-Obi, will you stay in a party that is doubting your capacity and capabilities?

PDP mocked Peter-Obi after he left, they told him that he was making a move that would end his political career and ambition.

So, why are you guys calling Obi’s name again after the election??
Wasn't he the one who ran for his life after PDP tried to rubbish him?

I am not giving excuses but for areas without network, how do u upload results on irev. Manual collation is always the best , that's why u have party agents. Why bother on what is uploaded that what your agent on the ground signs for. It's just political parties just wanting to be lazy and don't pay agents to represent them at the polls. If irev machine has fault, so results should not be announced . We should look at the pros and cons too of the machine . Let all normal process go on, if the irev works well fine but if it has issues, that shouldn't invalidate the process .

BluntCrazeMan:


Let us take them the way they are coming..
IREV will only display the results.
It will not add the results..

WE AGREE..
We will download all those results, and sum them up by ourselves..
NO WAHALLA..!!

But then,, we are telling them not to be waiting until AFTER TWO WEEKS (OR EVEN THREE WEEKS) before they start doing the uploading of results (or even uploading of some already mutilated results) to the IREV..

BluntCrazeMan:



I see where you belong..
I now see where your pain is coming from..

I don't want to be the one to tell you that PDP were the ones who spoiled their chances.

Wiike made it very clear that Peter Obi cannot give PDP the victory they deserved, and they agreed to that.
So, if you're Peter-Obi, will you stay in a party that is doubting your capacity and capabilities?

PDP mocked Peter-Obi after he left, that he was making a move that would end his political career and ambition.

So, why are you guys calling Obi’s name again after the election??
Wasn't he the one who ran for his life after PDP tried to rubbish him?

Peter Obi won the presidential election with a wide margin after Alhajis Atiku Abubakar, Bola Ahmed Tinubu and Rabiu Kwankwaso shared the votes of ethno-religious bigots of Nigeria.

Inec is now trying to justify why it floated a glitch to avoid transparent electronic transmission of vote results from BVAS to INEC portal.

Does America or United Kingdom transmit vote results manually from polling units to counting centres?
The backward Nigeria they are gunning for because of ethno-religious bigotry is coming heavier upon them. Unfortunately, others who want advancement in a country are also affected.

aswani:

I believe, or at least hope that, in time IREV would contain information of all elections dating as far back as those held pre-independence.

Maybe they need a court Judgement before they start doing that??

The blurred images could be as a result of poor training or undue pressure on the day on the electoral officers. Hopefully IREV will continue to monitor the portal and make the relevant updates where required.

Well,, I see this as an excuse, and not a reason. They should retrace (or archive) those blurred results and add the clear results on the IREV..
Blurred results shouldn't be seen on the Repository.. Therefore, after the whole court processes and petitions, the INEC is required to clean up the “repository”, and put it in order.

Magabush1:
I am not giving excuses but for areas without network, how do u upload results on irev. Manual collation is always the best , that's why u have party agents. Why bother on what is uploaded that what your agent on the ground signs for. It's just political parties just wanting to be lazy and don't pay agents to represent them at the polls. If irev machine has fault, so results should not be announced . We should look at the pros and cons too of the machine . Let all normal process go on, if the irev works well fine but if it has issues, that shouldn't invalidate the process .

If Elections are clean and clear and fair and transparent...
Tell yourself the truth...

would there really be any need for party agents??

What we need in a clean election are observers,, who would write their independent reports at the end of the election.
And not party agents who would come and start to even dictate to the INEC officials at some points.
Even sharing money.

Like,, seriously??

BluntCrazeMan:
Maybe they need a court Judgement before they start doing that??

Well,, I see this as an excuse, and not a reason. They should retrace (or archive) those blurred results and add the clear results on the IREV..
Blurred results shouldn't be seen on the Repository.. Therefore, after the whole court processes and petitions, the INEC is required to clean up the “repository”, and put it in order.

You will have no arguments from me regarding all you said because I am in total agreement.

I have suggested previously that INEC need to have their current IREV processes externally audited and the results of that published publicly for transparency. Maybe even a public inquiry and the publishing of a white paper.

Anything less and expect about the same nonsense in subsequent elections. We won't have perfection just yet but we must do better than the last time.

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Magabush1:
I am not giving excuses but for areas without network, how do u upload results on irev. Manual collation is always the best , that's why u have party agents. Why bother on what is uploaded that what your agent on the ground signs for. It's just political parties just wanting to be lazy and don't pay agents to represent them at the polls. If irev machine has fault, so results should not be announced . We should look at the pros and cons too of the machine . Let all normal process go on, if the irev works well fine but if it has issues, that shouldn't invalidate the process .

If Elections are clean and clear and fair and transparent...
Tell yourself the truth...

would there really be any need for party agents??

What we need in a clean election are observers,, who would write their independent reports at the end of the election.
And not party agents who would come and start to even dictate to the INEC officials at some points.
Even sharing money.

Like,, seriously??

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And yess..
The Electoral-Act should modify itself so that results that are not visible on the IREV at the time the ward-collation did his collation shouldn't be collated by the ward-collation-officer.
And also, that the collated results should also be uploaded to the IREV so as to serve as evidence that such polling-units results were omitted during collation.

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Meanwhile, whenever you want to make a change to any system, you be resolute about it.

This method of: “if it works well, then fine.....”,, it can never ever bring any stable change to any system that requires a good change.

aswani:


You will have no arguments from me regarding all you said because I am in total agreement.

I have suggested previously that INEC need to have their current IREV processes externally audited and the results of that published publicly for transparency. Maybe even a public inquiry and the publishing of a white paper.

Anything less and expect about the same nonsense in subsequent elections. We won't have perfection just yet but we must do better than the last time.

Ahead - Ahead.!!

If that glitch was actually an honest mistake.
They would agree to have the audit.

Nigerians can even forgive them if it was found out that they actually used the opportunity of the “honest mistake” to manipulate.
No Wahalla..
Final judgements must have been passed already by then, so nothing else can be done about it.

..
But if they deliberately caused the error...
My brother, they won't even agree to this suggestion of yours.

We know the type of people we are dealing with.

Una go explain tire. Me myself, I have given up hope on Nigerian leadership. They are bunch of criminals. Simple!

Reading some responses by certain paid miscreants it is clear to see that madness flows in the veins of a lot of Nigerians and it is no wonder we are living in a state of madness in Nigeria.

With this latest announcement, INEC is letting you know that regardless of what you see on IREV, they can simply, during manual collation at state collation centers, arrive at an entirely different outcome and there is nothing you should do about it. The recent sham PEPT judgment has further emboldened them.

After the just concluded elections, anyone who chooses to participate in any further elections in Nigeria has to be the biggest fool there ever was is and will be. Person don show you as him be but you still dey doubt am, I don't know what further evidence you need.

BluntCrazeMan:


The clear Fact here is that INEC themselves don't even know exactly what the IREV is supposed to be doing.
For them to promise Nigerians “Electronic Transmission” in December 2022..,, rather than using the proper terms, which is supposed to be “upload the results to the IREV”..

Uploading results to the IREV is not the same thing as “Electronic Transmission”..

The two of them are totally different things altogether..

Exactly, but they did something perculiar during ekiti guber polls.
I followed it via channels and I saw how results were tricking in and the curves were changing once a party got additional votes.
That platform is the electronic transmission portal, don't know why they didn't use it during the general elections

Thunder kill all of una there..

Why and who are they explaining to? Many Nigerians doesn't care about anything election in this country again ever since the brilliant outcome of Feb 25 2023. So let Yakubu led INEC do whatever and however he deems fit. No one cares

poiZon:

Exactly, but they did something perculiar during ekiti guber polls.
I followed it via channels and I saw how results were tricking in and the curves were changing once a party got additional votes.
That platform is the electronic transmission portal, don't know why they didn't use it during the general elections

In the Ekiti polls Yiaga-Africa went into a partnership with another tech company who downloaded all those results as they were being uploaded,, and transcribing them from picture format into their own independent Results Collation Softwares..
They made their dashboard public, and television stations keyed into it and aired it live.

They didn't repeat the project in the Osun Election.
They also didn't do it in the 2023 General Elections..
(In 2023 Presidential Election,, one man from Akwa Ibom named Mark Essien tried transcribing the IREV results by using crowd-sourced manpower,, but there were glitches he encountered in the process, which he narrated in the report he made public.)

Since INEC admitted it aided transparency, y wasn't it use during presidential elections. That's means d whole process was planned for it to b rigged. INEC u remain a failure

Another wasteful Enterprise.

Scrab INEC now.

BluntCrazeMan:
In the Ekiti polls Yiaga-Africa went into a partnership with another tech company who downloaded all those results as they were being uploaded,, and transcribing them from picture format into their own independent Results Collation Softwares..
They made their dashboard public, and television stations keyed into it and aired it live.

They didn't repeat the project in the Osun Election.
They also didn't do it in the 2023 General Elections..
(In 2023 Presidential Election,, one man from Akwa Ibom named Mark Essien tried transcribing the IREV results by using crowd-sourced manpower,, but there were glitches he encountered in the process, which he narrated in the report he made public.

Ok..
So Inec just wasted funds for nothing...

I knew what IREV was, na Nigerians been think say IREV na electronic transmission portal...

The only upgrade Inec did was the bvas which politicians still had their way in circumventing and doing their abracadabra

poiZon:

Ok..
So Inec just wasted funds for nothing...

I knew what IREV was, na Nigerians been think say IREV na electronic transmission portal...

The only upgrade Inec did was the bvas which politicians still had their way in circumventing and doing their abracadabra

Yeaahh..
That was just the case.


Even some INEC officials came on TV and made lots of people to believe that the IREV Portal is the Electronic Transmission Portal.