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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:16pm On Oct 19, 2023
Sand2022:
I look forward to a true JW to rebut my posts about the JWs.
You can continue deceiving yourself!

JWs in the forum have spoken but you say they are not JWs yet you keep raising arguments against JWs and the organization as a whole.

Ọmọ find something worthwhile to do if you can't mention the name of your church! wink
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 3:29pm On Oct 19, 2023
Sand2022:
If you can see clearly from your publications that Jesus' disciples were imitating Jesus example and yet imply that Jesus didn't give his support to what they did, I doubt you're a JW. You don't accept truth from bible neither do you even agree with what is in your publications. If I will reply to your comment, you will have to back up whatever you say with a publication quotation from your organization. That way, I will be sure I am dealing with a witness. For now, I won't view you as a witness.

I look forward to a true JW to rebut my posts about the JWs.
The issues with MaxInDHouse na notice me palaver. Even his moniker expose him to be so. When they peddle lies and manipulations as truth na for notice me(MaxInDHouse) that he is a bible student. We know the madness and insanities he peddles here to not only lie against the Holy spirit, apostles and even his own religious leaders.

It will be difficult to ever get a member of that religious organization that will provide refutations. It is just like saying Jehovah's witnesses should provide refutations that Russell didn't write studies in the scripture. looooool!
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 3:42pm On Oct 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
OK, now that JWs shunned your friends you've come out from hiding shey?

Well no gentile performed a single miracle in the Bible!

But if you disagree please just mention the name of one none Israelites from Genesis to Revelation who performed just one miracle smiley
Asking lying and manipulating questions to taint his post. He never said he went into hiding. You had to add that to advance your madness and insanities peddling. We know you cannot avoid apostates completely because you still mention Emusan = Achorladey today. Loooool!

The letters written to Corinthians and Ephesians about different gift was given to congregations filled with Gentiles. That the names of christians that are gentiles given such gift are not mentioned is not evidence that the gift were given to israelites alone.

Add those point into your madness and insanities peddling brains
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 3:47pm On Oct 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You can continue deceiving yourself!

JWs in the forum have spoken but you say they are not JWs yet you keep raising arguments against JWs and the organization as a whole.

Ọmọ find something worthwhile to do if you can't mention the name of your church! wink
the deception, madness and insanities peddling from your brains will not stop any time soon.

He has not come to your house to beg for work or come to nairaland to beg for work. That he was not even responding for a long time to your post na evidence he has worthwhile thing to engage and what is worth his while is not within your jurisdiction to decide.loooool!


Mentioning the name of his church will not remove the lies and manipulations coming from your madness and insanities peddling brains.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Courz: 3:49pm On Oct 19, 2023
Sand2022:
If you can see clearly from your publications that Jesus' disciples were imitating Jesus example and yet imply that Jesus didn't give his support to what they did, I doubt you're a JW. You don't accept truth from bible neither do you even agree with what is in your publications. If I will reply to your comment, you will have to back up whatever you say with a publication quotation from your organization. That way, I will be sure I am dealing with a witness. For now, I won't view you as a witness.

I look forward to a true JW to rebut my posts about the JWs.
Hahahahaha. You have now seen the insanity of Mad MaxInDHouse. You are not the only one who has doubted Mad MaxInDHouse of being a JW. He has been asked a couple of times if he is really one. I have asked him as well. He has been told by some people that he is a Muslim not a JW. His fellow JWS have read his comments and have disowned him. They even called him Apostate. Just imagine someone asking you to show him evidence of Gentiles performing Miracles in the Bible and that only Jews were doing that. It shows Mad MaxInDHouse has a lot of learning to do. It is either The JW that studied with him did a horrible job or He is really not a JW. He is not yet Baptised but he is sympathetic to the JW course and attends their Kingdom Hall. There are many things JWs will never say that he has said. He doesn't talk like a JW. He is an Impostor.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Emusan(m):
Sand2022:
If you can see clearly from your publications that Jesus' disciples were imitating Jesus example and yet imply that Jesus didn't give his support to what they did, I doubt you're a JW. You don't accept truth from bible neither do you even agree with what is in your publications. If I will reply to your comment, you will have to back up whatever you say with a publication quotation from your organization. That way, I will be sure I am dealing with a witness. For now, I won't view you as a witness.

I look forward to a true JW to rebut my posts about the JWs.
You mean you don't know him, the person who can say the act of GENEROSITY done by the Apostles by selling their properties and share the proceed among themselves is an act of EVIL. Even when I showed him that Watchtower publication says it's an act of GENEROSITY.

Note: He came up with this satanic statement just to defend Watchtower selling their Kingdom halls and not sharing the proceeds among JWs despite claiming to be following the footsteps of the Apostles.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by cornelboy(f):
MaxInDHouse:
OK, now that JWs shunned your friends you've come out from hiding shey?

Well no gentile performed a single miracle in the Bible!

But if you disagree please just mention the name of one none Israelites from Genesis to Revelation who performed just one miracle smiley
The highest they did was speak or prophesy in tongues after the holy spirit baptism.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Janosky:
Sand2022:
That's flip-flop you're defining. I can see the path you're going intentionally acting as if you don't know what I mean.

Flip is to cause something to turn over.

Flop can mean to fail, it can also mean to change or turn suddenly.

It is true that flip flop doesn't capture the exact meaning I have in mind, but I did give example of what I meant using the Superior Authorities as an example. I also use moving from A to B and then returning to A again. My point was perfectly clear.
Is point A the same as point B?
Whether you call up flip flop,turn over , you are referring to CHANGE.
Are you a Catholic?
Likely not.
Martin Luther, one of your 3 deities mentors, did he CHANGE anything?
Over 50 times grin grin grin
Oga don't be dishonest!


Sand2022:
But you keep replying as if your brain got lost or as if you don't even understand what am saying. Now it is clear that your response was deliberate. You knowingly give off point answer to waste my time. So don't be angry if I chose to ignore your comments.
Oga, no reason to vex,none at all.
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Oga, let me ask you a question related in reference to your analogy about "Superior Authorities" which you say there was "flip flop."

Peter converted Cornelius a gentile , stayed with him and ate with gentiles, Acts 10:34-48. Acts 11:3.
@ Acts 11:1-18, Peter convinced the Jewish believers to accept and mingle with the Gentiles.
Oga,@ Galatians 2:11-14, did Peter believe & practice his teaching of Acts 10:34-48, Acts11:1-18?

Paul reprimanded Peter @Galatians 2:11-14,Oga did Peter revert to practice his teaching @ Acts 10:34-48, Acts 11:1-18?

Oga, would Peter the apostle guilty of flip flops @ Galatians 2:11-14 ADJUST HIMSELF & CHANGE to his original teaching of Acts chapters 10 & 11?

Do I have to remind you that what Peter did to the Gentiles @ Galatians 2;11-14 amounted to betrayal?

Peter was NEVER perfect but you expect JWs to be perfect when clearly you are NOT perfect.
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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by johnw47: 12:06am On Oct 20, 2023
Janosky:
Martin Luther, one of your 3 deities mentors
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lost and tormented fraud jw janosky

Christians don't call the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit of the Bible: "3 deities/3 gods"
but you false jw's love to lie and blaspheme Them at every opportunity:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:19am On Oct 20, 2023
cornelboy:
The highest they do is speak or prophesy in tongues after the holy spirit baptism.
Sure!
Because prophesying is work assigned to all the brothers and sisters whether Jew or gentile but supernatural powers to heal was strictly for Israelites!
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Emusan(m): 11:06am On Oct 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Sure!
Because prophesying is work assigned to all the brothers and sisters whether Jew or gentile but supernatural powers to heal was strictly for Israelites!
But Watchtower are the spiritual Israelites today, so why are they not performing miracles? cheesy grin cheesy grin

God has used non Israelite to perform miracles on me and God has also used me to perform a miracle and I'm not an Israelite.

You can see that you don't know what you're saying neither do you believe in the God of Miracles of the Holy scripture who has never ceased in work of miracles from ages.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey:
cornelboy:
The highest they did was speak or prophesy in tongues after the holy spirit baptism.
Madness and insanities peddling as usual, give us the names of those gentiles who spoke in tongues and prophesied. Your brother in the business of madness and insanities peddling is seeking names grin grin grin grin since you agree that gentiles spoke in tongues and prophesied grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey:
Janosky:
Is point A the same as point B?
Whether you call up flip flop,turn over , you are referring to CHANGE.
Are you a Catholic?
Likely not.
Martin Luther, one of your 3 deities mentors, did he CHANGE anything?
Over 50 times grin grin grin
Oga don't be dishonest!




Oga, no reason to vex,none at all.
grin

Oga, let me ask you a question related in reference to your analogy about "Superior Authorities" which you say there was "flip flop."

Peter converted Cornelius a gentile , stayed with him and ate with gentiles, Acts 10:34-48. Acts 11:3.
@ Acts 11:1-18, Peter convinced the Jewish believers to accept and mingle with the Gentiles.
Oga,@ Galatians 2:11-14, did Peter believe & practice his teaching of Acts 10:34-48, Acts11:1-18?

Paul reprimanded Peter @Galatians 2:11-14,Oga did Peter revert to practice his teaching @ Acts 10:34-48, Acts 11:1-18?

Oga, would Peter the apostle guilty of flip flops @ Galatians 2:11-14 ADJUST HIMSELF & CHANGE to his original teaching of Acts chapters 10 & 11?

Do I have to remind you that what Peter did to the Gentiles @ Galatians 2;11-14 amounted to betrayal?

Peter was NEVER perfect but you expect JWs to be perfect when clearly you are NOT perfect.
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The mumu and no get sense peddling peddler still peddling lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin

Peter did not teach flip flops like your 9 GODS housed in USA grin grin grin grin

The more you bring and draw similarities between Luther, Catholics and the practices of those you call christendom the more it shows your religious organization are part of the 41000 teaching contradictions and conflicting doctrines grin grin grin grin


You can chose to peddle your Mumu and no get sense over that it won't change the fact that nothing special in what your call "Jehovah’s organization". The fraud you accuse others you perpetrate in your midst. grin grin grin grin


Those lies you peddle about those scriptures up there no dey work for nairaland. They can't buy your fraud of lies as truth grin grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 7:16pm On Oct 20, 2023
Emusan:
But Watchtower are the spiritual Israelites today, so why are they not performing miracles? cheesy grin cheesy grin

God has used non Israelite to perform miracles on me and God has also used me to perform a miracle and I'm not an Israelite.

You can see that you don't know what you're saying neither do you believe in the God of Miracles of the Holy scripture who has never ceased in work of miracles from ages.
Their brains have been so badly manipulated that they teach them to accumulate lies and truth at the same time.

When they want to raise their religious leaders to the high heavens during their meetings at the kingdom halls you will see them say....

God give gifts in men such as their governing body, helpers to the governing body, branch members, circuit overseers, elders using Ephesians 4:8 as support.
.....

When they go to preach to others their lying and manipulated brains will say.....

Those gifts no longer exist that the Bible says it will cease
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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey:
MaxInDHouse:
Sure!
Because prophesying is work assigned to all the brothers and sisters whether Jew or gentile but supernatural powers to heal was strictly for Israelites!
Where did your Bible say supernatural powers is strictly for Israelites?

Many madness and insanities peddling packed into lying and manipulating brains grin grin grin grin

The madness and insanities peddling peddler shut himself in the foot by saying prophesying work is assigned to all. Liar and manipulator forgets the gifts given were........ some prophesying and not all prophesying grin grin grin

Na wetin you dey teach people be this as Bible study were as na lies and manipulations of the scriptures laced with insanities and madness peddling grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by OgaNightmare(m): 9:49am On Oct 21, 2023
achorladey:
When you see a proper liar and manipulator with no self respect and shameless you will know grin grin grin grin
The guy get mind
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by OgaNightmare(m): 9:52am On Oct 21, 2023
Don't forget that book was released in 1919, the year Jesus Christ came to inspect the spiritual temple (according to JW theology) and rejected all of Christendom only choosing the JW's.

Still that same 1919 he appointed Rutherford and his 8 goons as the fatefool and Dis-creed slave but Rutherford and his guys were unaware of the appointment since the still believed Russell was actually the slave 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣




The book contains other bullsh!ts that landed them in big trouble and was banned in Canada 🤣
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by OgaNightmare(m): 10:06am On Oct 21, 2023
cornelboy:
No argument.
If true Christianity was not lost along the way, and the Roman Catholic didn't take over the church, JWs organization wouldn't be here today.

Since there was no church or group adhering to the pure doctrines of the Bible, the churches existing were heavily influenced by the Roman Catholics dogmas, Russell started questioning their strange doctrines and formed a group for the extensive study and research of the scripture.

Remember they didn't get all the truths in a day, they started from the dogmas of the Roman Catholics and they kept unveiling scripture truths and here we are today.
Even the name "JEHOVAH", Tfe doctrine of original sin, The Ransom theory of the atonement, Including the Bible you're holding are all products of the Catholic Church.

There was never one united Christian Church that agreed on the same thing. By the end of the first century we had The ebionites, Gnostics, Marcionites and the Proto-Orthodox (what later became Catholic in the 4th century) including other small Christian groups in Egypt, Eastern Europe and Ethiopia. All holding on to different doctrines and having their own set of favoured scriptures.

The atmosphere inherited by Russell was the one fueled by the millennial movement of the Adventists.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:21am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
The guy get mind
looool they gey mind to peddle truth and lies about a particular scripture simultaneously.

For example gifts given to christians ceased after the death of the apostles yet they will tell us God give gift in men that includes ministerial servant to governing body today.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by OgaNightmare(m): 10:23am On Oct 21, 2023
achorladey:
looool they gey mind to peddle truth and lies about a particular scripture simultaneously.

For example gifts given to christians ceased after the death of the apostles yet they will tell us God give gift in men that includes ministerial servant to governing body today.
Their own "gifts in men" na to dey disfellowship people anyhow 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Especially when the person has evidence against their mumu organisation
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:24am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
Even the name "JEHOVAH", Tfe doctrine of original sin, The Ransom theory of the atonement, Including the Bible you're holding are all products of the Catholic Church.

There was never one united Christian Church that agreed on the same thing. By the end of the first century we had The ebionites, Gnostics, Marcionites and the Proto-Orthodox (what later became Catholic in the 4th century) including other small Christian groups in Egypt, Eastern Europe and Ethiopia. All holding on to different doctrines and having their own set of favoured scriptures.

The atmosphere inherited by Russell was the one fueled by the millennial movement of the Adventists.
that one go just dey peddle madness and insanitites about lies and packed into his brains.

True christianity lost in order to make the narrative that Jehovahs witnesses restored or found true christianity. Loool.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by cornelboy(f): 10:26am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
Even the name "JEHOVAH", Tfe doctrine of original sin, The Ransom theory of the atonement, Including the Bible you're holding are all products of the Catholic Church.

There was never one united Christian Church that agreed on the same thing. By the end of the first century we had The ebionites, Gnostics, Marcionites and the Proto-Orthodox (what later became Catholic in the 4th century) including other small Christian groups in Egypt, Eastern Europe and Ethiopia. All holding on to different doctrines and having their own set of favoured scriptures.

The atmosphere inherited by Russell was the one fueled by the millennial movement of the Adventists.
The Catholics the didn't write the Bible.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by OgaNightmare(m): 10:28am On Oct 21, 2023
achorladey:
that one go just dey peddle madness and insanitites about lies and packed into his brains.

True christianity lost in order to make the narrative that Jehovahs witnesses restored or found true christianity. Loool.
It's always funny when the said that they've restored "pure worship" or "True Christianity". When they are all dependent on the so-called scholars of Christendom. Their Bible NWT is based on a Master-Text composed by Wesscot and Hort (who are big time Catholic theologians).

It seems they forgot the command to get out of "BABYLON THE GREAT" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:33am On Oct 21, 2023
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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by OgaNightmare(m): 10:33am On Oct 21, 2023
cornelboy:
The Catholics the didn't write the Bible.
I didn't say the wrote it. The decided which books should make up what you now refer to as "Scripture" or "Holy writing".


And your NWT is based on a master text produced by two Catholic scholars.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Emusan(m): 10:37am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
Even the name "JEHOVAH", Tfe doctrine of original sin, The Ransom theory of the atonement, Including the Bible you're holding are all products of the Catholic Church.
Not even when they claim to do justice to the original name of God. Yet, after agreeing that Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah, they still continue to use Jehovah because "people are already familiar with it"

There was never one united Christian Church that agreed on the same thing. By the end of the first century we had The ebionites, Gnostics, Marcionites and the Proto-Orthodox (what later became Catholic in the 4th century) including other small Christian groups in Egypt, Eastern Europe and Ethiopia. All holding on to different doctrines and having their own set of favoured scriptures.
They know this, reason why they'll say "TRUE" Christianity lost after the death of the last Apostle which supposed to be John.

Meanwhile, the same Watchtower will make you believe that TRUTH LOVER of God never ceased to exist throughout the ages.

The atmosphere inherited by Russell was the one fueled by the millennial movement of the Adventists.
And the most astonish part is that SDA is still waxing stronger than JWs till date.
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:39am On Oct 21, 2023
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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:43am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
Their own "gifts in men" na to dey disfellowship people anyhow 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Especially when the person has evidence against their mumu organisation
The same disfellowshipping they say originate from paganism is the same doctrine they are using to restore true christianity grin grin grin

The same disfellowshipping they say the Catholic and other churches used in terrorising others is what they use now to restore true worship grin grin grin


Sand2022 come and see another flip-flop
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:47am On Oct 21, 2023
Emusan:
Not even when they claim to do justice to the original name of God. Yet, after agreeing that Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah, they still continue to use Jehovah because "people are already familiar with it"



They know this, reason why they'll say "TRUE" Christianity lost after the death of the last Apostle which supposed to be John.

Meanwhile, the same Watchtower will make you believe that TRUTH LOVER of God never ceased to exist throughout the ages.



And the most astonish part is that SDA is still waxing stronger than JWs till date.
They have to wet the ground with that false narrative that true christianity lost after the death of John to peddle and grow more false narrative they call truth that Jehovah’s witnesses restored true worship grin grin grin

Their propaganda peddling went as far publishing a book called pure worship restored at last to package the false narrative more grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:48am On Oct 21, 2023
cornelboy:
The Catholics the didn't write the Bible.
You want to introduce your madness and insanities peddling into his words to advance your lies and manipulations grin grin grin

Learn to read well when responding to comment grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:50am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
It's always funny when the said that they've restored "pure worship" or "True Christianity". When they are all dependent on the so-called scholars of Christendom. Their Bible NWT is based on a Master-Text composed by Wesscot and Hort (who are big time Catholic theologians).

It seems they forgot the command to get out of "BABYLON THE GREAT" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They restored it with more lies and manipulations of the scripture to advance their agenda of being the only religious organization practising true worship grin grin grin

They are very much part of what they call Babylon the great. grin grin grin
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by cornelboy(f): 11:15am On Oct 21, 2023
OgaNightmare:
I didn't say the wrote it. The decided which books should make up what you now refer to as "Scripture" or "Holy writing".


And your NWT is based on a master text produced by two Catholic scholars.
What was the reason why some books were not added to the "scripture"?
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