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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by ogascomax: 12:09pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:
Crude oil prices were at its highest levels during GEJ days which was an advantage and also he had a good and competent economic team led by Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and other economic and financial experts who were picked based on merit instead of nepotism and political patronage as it was during Buhari and now under Tinubu.
Nigeria is now heading into “Gangster Capitalism “ like we had in countries like Russia,Romania,Belarus and other former Soviet Union states…the economy being controlled by criminals and outlaws with government power.

I don't like insulting people but you will be a foolish fool and an idiot to believe fuel was at is highest. Go and study the fuel chats and see when it was at is highest and for what period. This administration has a better average then any other administration yet fuel keeps galloping. Stop talking rubbish about the fuel as a reason. Let it be sold at 200 per dollars your condition will become worst because your life depends on it. Cheaper fuel is what is required for prices to drop down.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by zoghys: 12:09pm On Oct 20, 2023
nairalanda1:



Even ifJona was super prudent, it would have only delayed the inevitable by a few years.

We wouldn't have known that. Jonathan's administration did us lots of disservice by his lame approach. Buhari did help either and sincerely am more disappointed in him, because I expect better approach to managing the economy.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by benqo01(m): 12:11pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

Even the PDP presidents failed. For example under OBJ $16 billion NIPP project failed with the money gone, under GEJ his petroleum minister was arrested in the UK with £18.5 billion, where did the money come from? These people are all the same PDP and APC and whatever platform they come under.
Among oil producing countries Nigeria has the least developed public infrastructure with the little available also dilapidated.


Yh same but PDP still tried atleast I could cook a pot of soup for 3k den
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by clinician2x: 12:12pm On Oct 20, 2023
Pakute:

Can a minister clear debts without the approval of her boss?, una dey open mouth to talk like say OBJ was not the one that appointed all the member of the team. Na the President even appeal to the creditors before they agree to negotiate. OBJ only made Okonjo Iweala to lead the negotiation as say she be the finance minister.

Obj for make your father lead the negotiation na since Ngozi is not a capable hand. They for just carry your father de go negotiate.

Mumu
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by mikeapollo: 12:12pm On Oct 20, 2023
qwertyuioplm:
Despite paying for subsidy and not a producing nation exchange rate moved from 140-180 ,what type of magic did he perform

Jonathan did not perform any magic. In fact he was also clueless, confused and spineless too.
He was only fortunate to have met a strong CBN governor like Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, whose polices helped to maintain the exchange rate and prevented the dubious banks from fleecing and taking advantage of Nigerians to manipulate the rate.
But the same Jonathan removed Sanusi as CBN governor when Sanusi raised the alarm about the corruption in NNPC. We all know that SLS has been vindicated with time.
Jonathan then appointed the useless Emefiele (most useless CBN governor), who started the destruction of the Naira and then this useless Tinubu has now made it worse.
We need very stern and strong CBN governor like SLS who can take on the banks, BDCs and politicians that manipulate the exchange rate system
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Daystar7: 12:13pm On Oct 20, 2023
Pakute:

Can a minister clear debts without the approval of her boss?, una dey open mouth to talk like say OBJ was not the one that appointed all the member of the team. Na the President even appeal to the creditors before they agree to negotiate. OBJ only made Okonjo Iweala to lead the negotiation as say she be the finance minister.

You dey shift goal post too much alaye. How much Dem pay you? NOI worst is better than the best of any finance minister we've ever had stop moving mad. Tribalism wan kill you, Is a president a minister? Give the woman her flowers n stfu!
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by PepeXKermit: 12:13pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

Please read my comment again, it i did not base it solely on oil prices but you cannot take out the fact that that was during an era of oil boom worldwide and every oil producing nation benefited from increased revenues so its a factor oga.
I also made emphasis on his good economic team and policies.
In reality, all the governments since 1999 have all failed so personally am not giddy about any.

big lies. Jonathan's management of the economy had nothing to do with an oil price boom, how much was oil then and how much is oil now?
bullsheet assertion to unrope the two other disasters that came after him. Same excuse Buhari use, same excuse una wan use bail out emilokan. What was Oil price when OBJ took power?

Yeye

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by nairalanda1(m): 12:14pm On Oct 20, 2023
zoghys:


We wouldn't have known that. Jonathan's administration did us lots of disservice by his lame approach. Buhari did help either and sincerely am more disappointed in him, because I expect better approach to managing the economy.

At the end, the problem is that we don't earn much money in the first place.

APC even had a chance to make a difference self. They did not. I don't see tinubu making a difference
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by kpompey: 12:14pm On Oct 20, 2023
Jonathan, one of the leaders that should be stoned to death in Nigeria, just like Tinubu , Buhari and any past or current politician that has a part in the current predicament being faced by Nigerians. With the excess crude oil money, countries like Saudi-Arabia were busy planning for the future, vision 2030 then, which led to many industrial cities in Al-Jubail and other part of Saudi's.Aside the excess money made from hajj and oil,Saudi diversified their economy through Sabic and Aramco by producing different petrochemicals, fertilizers, pipes, copper wire and cable, truck assembly, refrigeration, plastics, aluminum products, metal products, cement to mention few, and this has led to the birth of so many companies both local and internationals that are serving as affiliate to these two giant companies. Goodluck should tell us what happened to our own excess reserve, part was shared to some rogues who called themselves governors and the rest was stolen by Goodluck and his allies which include Madueke and even Peter Obi. Nigerian will not forgive them. I remembered how he shared gold plated i-phone as souvenir at the wedding of an adopted daughter.Also, he wasted billions of dollars on his re-election bid to settle their corrupt political structure. Nigerians should wake up to teach people like Tinubu what to do.Enough of empty strike threat, we should all come together, anywhere we see any public office holder either senator, governor,president and even their family members, we should gather in thousands and STONE THEIR CARS. Let them shoot all of us , then we would see the position of the international community.Some of us don't have landed property to sell to Japa and we are well nurtured that we can not do cyber crime. We need to hold the bull by the horn and let them know it is eye for an eye.I wept today when I see naira falling to 1,155. Enough of our joint wealth being stolen.We need to save our country.Lastly,Obasanjo will not know peace, he showed them the way to steal.He attached too much money to our political system for selfish game.He is a useless old fool and his generation to come will surely pay for this agony.Baba weere.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Backpedal: 12:15pm On Oct 20, 2023
mrvitalis:

He had a team with world class experience
... Check all his economic team they were rushed by international agencies

Even the corrupt ones are Allison you can't deny they were brilliant at what they did


APC issue is the right people to do jobs don't come from the region they want it to come from

For APC all positions are reward to regions for supporting them..

. For PDP there were some key positions they were reserve for technocrats irrespective of were they are from
gbam
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by ogascomax: 12:15pm On Oct 20, 2023
Pakute:

No dey deceive yourself, no be beer parlour forum you dey. You dey hype Okonjo Iweala?, the same woman who dey borrow to pay salaries, person wey come out come tell us to get ready for suffer times, shey you dey whine me ni?. The only reason GEJ take survive his first 4years was say e inherit strong external reserves and oil price at its peak but the next two years to the end of his tenure, the economy don almost collapse.

This is how you glorified failures and lie. All you said are lies.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Daystar7: 12:15pm On Oct 20, 2023
mikeapollo:


Jonathan did not perform any magic. In fact he was also clueless, confused and spineless too.
He was only fortunate to have met a strong CBN governor like Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, whose polices helped to maintain the exchange rate and prevented the dubious banks from fleecing and taking advantage of Nigerians to manipulate the rate.
But the same Jonathan removed Sanusi as CBN governor when Sanusi raised the alarm about the corruption in NNPC Jonathan then appointed the useless Emefiele (most useless CBN governor), who started the destruction of the Naira and then this useless Tinubu has now made it worse.
We need very stern and strong CBN governor like SLS who can take on the banks, BDCs and politicians that manipulate the exchange rate system

Y'all agreed that GEJ was clueless, why then is he a million times better than APC?

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Angelfrost(m): 12:16pm On Oct 20, 2023
Ozommadu:


Stop lying

Crude oil price was at its highest in 2020 under the failure buhari you supported

They should keep lying and making excuses for APC and Tinubu...!

Let's see how long they sell and sustain the propaganda while they suffer unspeakably.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by optimusprime2(m): 12:16pm On Oct 20, 2023
Because he had very dependable and capable hands who surrounded him- NOI herself was a force of Economics... make no mistake he was also an intelligent man too.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by GeneralDae: 12:16pm On Oct 20, 2023
NzogbuNzogbu:
Uits not by oilprice, buhari had fair enough oil price and killed this country

Mr master strategist is now burying it, if gej had half the pateience yorubas are giving tinubu he would have done more

They didn't give him breathing space, manufactured Boko haram, always creating sabotage but he is still miles above them
Jonathan had the highest oil prices ever on average with production around 2 million bpd. So the indices were favorable to him as well.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by onuman: 12:17pm On Oct 20, 2023
Nigeria's economy is at the apron strings of the IMF and the Colonial master.
Colonial master did not impose Jonathan upon Nigeria; and did not dictate to President Jonathan. Jonathan came in from the death of Yar'adua. Jonathan left when the Colonial master wanted.
Buhari and Tinubu are footsoldiers of the Colonial masters. Before ever Tinubu started presidential campaign, he first went abroad and got annointed by the Colonial master who has Nigeria as plantation.
Obama and the CNN nearly shouted themselves hoarse in their campaign for Buhari to become president of Nigeria. US is an extension of GB.
Since June 2023, there is hardly any day the Naira did not crumble against the GBP and the US Dollar. If unchecked, the Naira may soon be like Somalia's currency at the heat of Somalia's war against the Al Shabab.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Mom007(f): 12:17pm On Oct 20, 2023
Newdawn30:
Exactly the clueless one is 10× better(170=$) than the first class economic genius(1100= $)
It's 1150 =1$ as of today sir.

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Angelfrost(m): 12:17pm On Oct 20, 2023
GeneralDae:

Jonathan had the highest oil prices ever on average with production around 2 million bpd. So the indices were favorable to him as well.

Keep making excuses for APC... Las las, we shall see how many people excuses go feed. tongue
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by nairalanda1(m): 12:17pm On Oct 20, 2023
kpompey:
Jonathan, one of the leaders that should be stoned to death in Nigeria, just like Tinubu , Buhari and any past or current politician that has a part in the current predicament being faced by Nigerians. With the excess crude oil money, countries like Saudi-Arabia were busy planning for the future, vision 2030 then, which led to many industrial cities in Al-Jubail and other part of Saudi's.Aside the excess money made from hajj and oil,Saudi diversified their economy through Sabic and Aramco by producing different petrochemicals, fertilizers, pipes, copper wire and cable, truck assembly, refrigeration, plastics, aluminum products, metal products, cement to mention few, and this has led to the birth of so many companies both local and internationals that are serving as affiliate to these two giant companies. Goodluck should tell us what happened to our own excess reserve, part was shared to some rogues who called themselves governors and the rest was stolen by Goodluck and his allies which include Madueke and even Peter Obi. Nigerian will not forgive them. I remembered how he shared gold plated i-phone as souvenir at the wedding of an adopted daughter.Also, he wasted billions of dollars on reelection bid to settle their corruption structure. Nigerians should wake up to teach people like Tinubu what to do.Enough of empty strike threat, we should all come together, anywhere we see any public office holder either senator, governor,president and even their family members, we should gather in thousands and STONE THEIR CARS. Let them shoot all of us , then we would see the position of the international community.Some of us don't have landed property to sell to Japa and we are well nurtured that we can do cyber crime. We need to hold the bull by the horn and let them know it is eye for an eye.I wept today when I see naira falling to 1,155. Enough of our joint wealth being stolen.We need to save our country.


I stopped at Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia earns far more than Nigeria. To defend their currency in 2014 they spent 2-3 times our Forex revenue. To defend their currency!

That is why they have more than enough money to do stuff

40 million people and ten million barrels of crude a day is nothing to laugh at.

Nigeria is and was and has always been broke..and we need side hustle
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Kukutente23: 12:18pm On Oct 20, 2023
Pakute:

Is minister of finance not a far bigger and powerful profile?. Dude, you need to start keeping quiet.
Explain how minister of finance is a bigger and powerful profile than foreign affairs.
Ignorant mofo

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by habiham: 12:18pm On Oct 20, 2023
Because he get brain and not using a fake certificate he truly go school

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Ewedegubbler: 12:18pm On Oct 20, 2023
PDP was a bad party but they weren't wicked like this APC. may APC never happen to any of us in our family oooo

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by just2endowed: 12:18pm On Oct 20, 2023
nairalanda1:


High oil prices and a lower debt burden to begin with.

Before anyone comes here to abuse me

1..I am not an APC supporter

2..I don't back PDP either.


Jona had high oil prices. Buhari started off with dropping oil prices and it was only in 2021 that oil prices went up to the 2011-14 level.

Even then we didn't benefit from Buhari high oil prices because we had borrowed up so much under his rule to feed corruption, feed defending the naira and feed growing subsides.


We had the same thing happening in 1973-82. High oil prices and then in 1982, crash. By 1992 we had gone through years of mess and the naira was hovering around 33 to the dollar compared to 1 to 1 in 1978

Every oil country has the same boom and bust. Venezuela was very prosperous in the 1970s. By 1980s the economy was a mess. Iraq too, which is partly why saddam invaded Kuwait. He needed their oil revenue. Ten years of low oil prices led him there.


The problem Jona, tinubu and Buhari and for that matter many of our past leaders share ( Yaradua was a exception somewhat) is that they think we are a rich country. When oil prices fall, we borrow to keep our heads above water and maintain the illusion.when they are high we spend and spend.

Oil was going above 200 naira by the end of GEj regime. By January 2015 , NOI was warning that hard times awaited, whoever won that year. In fact by 2014, April when oil prices started crashing, anyone who remembered 1982 would have had a feeling of déjà vu.

You didn't write when NOI wanted to created account for excess crude oil account for saving but the governor fought for the account to be shared with no intention of saving
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by mikeapollo: 12:19pm On Oct 20, 2023
Daystar7:


Y'all agreed that GEJ was clueless, why then is he a million times better than APC?
.

APC is also clueless and useless.
I cannot drop my standards because some useless APC is also bad or even worse.
Someone scored 20/100; another scored 10/100. Both are failures to me, even if one scored higher than the other!
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Justiceleague1: 12:19pm On Oct 20, 2023
He employed Ngozi Okonjo Iweala....
But the strange thing is,evil coneheaded structures did their evil best to rope her with one scandal or the other but thank God they failed woefully.

Jonathan did his best for just few years and these same evil southern abomination kept attacking him even till this very day but the destroyer like buhari did worse for good 8yrs but funny enough,these same southern banzas taa ti sepe fun, are as mute as a sheep
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by nairalanda1(m): 12:20pm On Oct 20, 2023
just2endowed:


You didn't write when NOI wanted to created account for excess crude oil account for saving but the governor fought for the account to be shared with no intention of saving

Even then, at the end of the day, Nigeria no dey earn enough money. For a nation our size.

Noi excess crude account was a wise idea tho.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by ruffDiamond: 12:20pm On Oct 20, 2023
Far,far better than the two renegades and that came later and now! undecided

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by TOPCRUISE(m): 12:21pm On Oct 20, 2023
Jonathan had okonjo iweala and Sanusi. APC had Emefiele and Zainab Ahmed. Compare and contrast them.
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Memphis357(m): 12:21pm On Oct 20, 2023
MASTERCHIEF0847:

Even the PDP presidents failed. For example under OBJ $16 billion NIPP project failed with the money gone, under GEJ his petroleum minister was arrested in the UK with £18.5 billion, where did the money come from? These people are all the same PDP and APC and whatever platform they come under.
Among oil producing countries Nigeria has the least developed public infrastructure with the little available also dilapidated.
The way you APC propagandust people just quote figures anyhow.... Do you even know just how humongous £18.5bn is?
Una heads dey too worthless!!

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Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by Justiceleague1: 12:21pm On Oct 20, 2023
zoghys:


We wouldn't have known that. Jonathan's administration did us lots of disservice by his lame approach. Buhari did help either and sincerely am more disappointed in him, because I expect better approach to managing the economy.
Why can't you expatiate clearly for people to get your point!
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by godofuck231: 12:22pm On Oct 20, 2023
Its was simple , let the poor do their illegal activities and the south oil trade became open at the down stream , as far as they dont steal or kill but buhari decided to choke the south witch was the nerve of the total country , the northern illiterates and half baked became handlers of the sensitive system built for the genius
Re: How Was Jonathan Able To Manage Nigeria Economy by 43Ronin: 12:23pm On Oct 20, 2023
He had professionals handling the economy. Well trained nigerians, people like Okonjo of WTO, Adesina aganga..... he was able to succeed because he was detribalized. Even though people call him a weakling, he was a MAN he handled shít for nigerians without us even knowing; Just as children eat food without knowing the hustle their father put in to keep their belly full. This current politicians are like those house-help that maltreat babies.

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