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Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 4:13pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
People like you preach false doctrine...
He once preached your false teaching and I argued with him for 4 years to re examine it that is why he is now warning you, the exact same thing I warned you which I also pointed out to him

You would not be guiltlesss for the souls which you murdered because of your stubbornness

Besides it is magical that you even ignored the clear words in Hebrews 6:

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;

which clearly shows that it is very much possible for the partakers to fall even though it is not reasonable for them to do so.

But we know people are stupid and they are always capable of making fatal mistakes like David, Solomon, Hezekiah did.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:17pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Jesus came to his his own will or his father's will?
You're not even making sense to yourself
It easy

Jesus said I and my father are one

Jesus said my (food) in order words (my work) and in order words (my will) is to do the will of my father.

.... So in essence the reason for Jesus will is just to do the will of the father..

How is this principle hard to understand.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:19pm On Nov 01, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
He once preached your false teaching and I argued with him for 4 years to re examine it that is why he is now warning you, the exact same thing I warned you which I also pointed out to him

You would not be guiltlesss for the souls which you murdered because of your stubbornness

Besides it is magical that you even ignored the clear words in Hebrews 6:

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;

which clearly shows that it is very much possible for the partakers to fall even though it is not reasonable for them to do so.

But we know people are stupid and they are always capable of making fatal mistakes like David, Solomon, Hezekiah did.
Me and you have dealt with this things in the past and I gave you proper education I think you are part of the cult of jehova witness

Go back and re read those things I wrote I don't have time for insult.

You know I don't abuse like you because you don't obey God's word.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:26pm On Nov 01, 2023
Next chapter to treat is 1 Corinthians 9:27... Coming soon....
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 4:30pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Me and you have dealt with this things in the past and I gave you proper education I think you are part of the cult of jehova witness

Go back and re read those things I wrote I don't have time for insult.

You know I don't abuse like you because you don't obey God's word.
Go and check it. Our last argument ended with me pointing out and showing examples that whatsoever is given can always be taken back again by The Owner.

And no reasonable person considers it an insult when we see a person doing a very bad thing and people shout out to stop him.

Hebrews 6

6[b] If they shall fall away,[/b] to renew them again unto repentance; clearlly shows you that it is very much possible for a partaker to fall adding that it would be impossible to redeemed after that.

Hebrew 6 clearly said so.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 4:39pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
It easy

Jesus said I and my father are one

Jesus said my (food) in order words (my work) and in order words (my will) is to do the will of my father.

.... So in essence the reason for Jesus will is just to do the will of the father..

How is this principle hard to understand.
My father and I are one
Emphasis on the bolded
It's used to connect two distinct things or person
It denotes unity of thought and purpose not that they are same
He did not say he is the father
They are one
Later, he prayed that his disciples should be one just as he and his father are one
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:41pm On Nov 01, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Go and check it. Our last argument ended with me pointing out and showing examples that whatsoever is given can always be taken back again by The Owner.

And no reasonable person considers it an insult when we see a person doing a very bad thing and people shout out to stop him.

Hebrews 6

6[b] If they shall fall away,[/b] to renew them again unto repentance; clearlly shows you that it is very much possible for a partaker to fall adding that it would be impossible to redeemed after that.

Hebrew 6 clearly said so.
Don't you see that your head has calmed down now that I lashed out at your behavior

Any way back to your points

If they shall fall away from what they heard initially that drew them to God that why Paul added to renew them again will be very hard to make them understand those things again will be very hard because they fell away at the first time because the word of God was not planted in a fertile soil it did not enter into their heart they were not born again they were not saved

What is hard in understanding this scripture.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:47pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
My father and I are one
Emphasis on the bolded
It's used to connect two distinct things or person
It denotes unity of thought and purpose not that they are same
He did not say he is the father
They are one
Later, he prayed that his disciples should be one just as he and his father are one
Now let break this mystery because I can see where you are coming from

God exist as

The father
The son
The holy spirit

Man exist as
Soul
Body
Spirit

You can see you have two being living inside your body but if you try to look at yourself very well you will call your self one person

Why because this three components that make you you are working together as one

That why Jesus put are one...

Your soul is not your body and your spirit and your body is not your soul and your spirit and your spirit is not your body and your soul

But this three things is what made you you it is what made you a man

Now I hope you can see why Jesus put are.... From this little explanation.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 4:48pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Now let break this mystery because I can see where you are coming from

God exist as

The father
The son
The holy spirit

Man exist as
Soul
Body
Spirit

You can see you have two being living inside your body but if you try to look at yourself very well you will call your self one person

Why because this three components that make you you are working together as one

That why Jesus put are one...

Your soul is not your body and your spirit and your body is not your soul and your spirit and your spirit is not your body and your soul

But this three things is what made you you it is what made you a man

Now I hope you can see why Jesus put are.... From this little explanation.
2 being ke?
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 4:50pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
2 being ke?
Your soul is a being it is a living being

Your spirit and body the same thing

So your soul and spirit lives inside your body.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 4:56pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Your soul is a being it is a living being

Your spirit and body the same thing

So your soul and spirit lives inside your body.
Which one dies?
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 5:04pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Which one dies?
All three of them can die but they have various ways they die differently

Now the soul acts like a software the way it dies is by corrupting it with evil spirit

And when that happens that person will act like a mad person

The way the spirit dies is only by placing it in hell fire

The way the body dies is easy because there are many various way to do it.

So they all die in a unique way.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 5:42pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
All three of them can die but they have various ways they die differently

Now the soul acts like a software the way it dies is by corrupting it with evil spirit

And when that happens that person will act like a mad person


The way the spirit dies is only by placing it in hell fire

The way the body dies is easy because there are many various way to do it.

So they all die in a unique way.
Nonsense
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by cornelboy(f): 6:33pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Nonsense
Hahahaha 😂
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 6:36pm On Nov 01, 2023
cornelboy:
Hahahaha 😂
Spirit de die by behaving like mad man
Imagine?
Person de don de read Bible under influence of kaikai in the name of being under holy spirit
😂
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Spirit de die by behaving like mad man
Imagine? Person de don de read Bible under influence of kaikai in the name of being under holy spirit 😂
Churchgoers often remix Nollywood movies to explain what they believe and their pastors promote such ideas so don't be surprised! undecided
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:47pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Nonsense
It looks like you are part of the cult jahova witness.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:48pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Spirit de die by behaving like mad man
Imagine?
Person de don de read Bible under influence of kaikai in the name of being under holy spirit
😂
Read it again since you mix up everything.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:49pm On Nov 01, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Churchgoers often remix Nollywood movies to explain what they believe and their pastors promote such ideas so don't be surprised! undecided
Everything I said is in the scripture unless you don't know where to locate it.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:52pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Next chapter to treat is 1 Corinthians 9:27... Coming soon....
Next chapter to treat is 1 Corinthians 9:27... Coming soon....
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:10pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Everything I said is in the scripture unless you don't know where to locate it.
Don't worry about me try to explain to your friends and don't forget to use the scriptures. smiley
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:38pm On Nov 01, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry about me try to explain to your friends and don't forget to use the scriptures. smiley
Then since you don't know where it is in the Bible stop lying that it is movie explanation

Just because you don't know the places God put it in the Bible.

God sent us to teach his mystery not those holiness by works which they teach you in cult jehova witnesses.

At the last day you will see the holy one of Israel as your one true God almighty then you will cry it will be too late.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:48pm On Nov 01, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Then since you don't know where it is in the Bible stop lying that it is movie explanation
Just because you don't know the places God put it in the Bible.
God sent us to teach his mystery not those holiness by works which they teach you in cult jehova witnesses.
At the last day you will see the holy one of Israel as your one true God almighty then you will cry it will be too late.
It's OK! grin

Now use the scriptures to expatiate for your friends!
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:48pm On Nov 01, 2023
Philippians 3:12-14... Will be next...
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:49pm On Nov 01, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK! grin

Now use the scriptures to expatiate for your friends!
Humble yourself and say I should show it to you MaxInDHouse

So that you will stop thinking it movies stories.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m):
Kingsnairaland:
Humble yourself and say I should show it to you MaxInDHouse. So that you will stop thinking it movies stories.
If you know where it is in your copy of the Bible you don't need me here before showing your friends do you? smiley
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 6:38am On Nov 02, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
Don't you see that your head has calmed down now that I lashed out at your behavior

Any way back to your points

If they shall fall away from what they heard initially that drew them to God that why Paul added to renew them again will be very hard to make them understand those things again will be very hard because they fell away at the first time because the word of God was not planted in a fertile soil it did not enter into their heart they were not born again they were not saved

What is hard in understanding this scripture.
If they shall fall away means that they were standing before.

A none fertile soil is not one who any reasonable person will say stands.

He is only a hearer the word but he did not get The Holy Spirit.

So you see, you are in great error!
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 8:56am On Nov 02, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
If they shall fall away means that they were standing before.

A none fertile soil is not one who any reasonable person will say stands.

He is only a hearer the word but he did not get The Holy Spirit.

So you see, you are in great error!
Number 1
You said..... (If they shall fall away means that they were standing before.) but I explained it in the post too you did not read that post

Dtruthspeaker
So let me ask you a hypothetical question..... When someone says to you..... I have four families with four wife's
But my last family They went out from us....

Can you explain what....(.but My last family They went out from us..) .... What do this statement means.... do this statement mean that they are not part of our family or they were but they no longer now.....



Number 2
You said this.... (He is only a hearer the word but he did not get The Holy Spirit..) ..


I told you getting the holy spirit is different from sharing the holy spirit

And here Paul said they shared it with us

I explained this... (He is only a hearer the word but he did not get The Holy Spirit..) . in that post so this showed that you did not read that thing properly

This below is what it means to share the holy spirit....
John 18:4-6
After Jesus received Judas' kiss of betrayal, He stepped forward and asked the crowd of militia, “…Whom seek ye? They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he…. As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground

Re read that post and learn

But answer the first question let treat it one by one...
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:04am On Nov 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If you know where it is in your copy of the Bible you don't need me here before showing your friends do you? smiley
I will open a new thread
And talk about God's and man

Then I will gently list the explanation and back it up with holy Bible is that OK with you then you can see.
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:57am On Nov 02, 2023
Kingsnairaland:
I will open a new thread. And talk about God and man. Then I will gently list the explanation and back it up with holy Bible is that OK with you then you can see.
There is a thousand and one Rabbis in Israel during the time of Jesus Christ each of them thought he has accurate knowledge of God's word so they all formed different sects but what made Jesus the best Rabbi?
Only his disciples fulfilled what God promised according to the scriptures.
So you can say whatever comes to your head and rap it up with Bible verses but it's the FRUIT (those practicing what you believe) that will stand as evidence of God's backing not your arguments! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 10:14am On Nov 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
There is a thousand and one Rabbis in Israel during the time of Jesus Christ each of them thought he has accurate knowledge of God's word so they all formed different sects but what made Jesus the best Rabbi?
Only his disciples fulfilled what God promised according to the scriptures.
So you can say whatever comes to your head and rap it up with Bible verses but it's the FRUIT (those practicing what you believe) that will stand as evidence of God's backing not your arguments! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
The way the Pharisees used the Torah to teach that one need not help hie parents if he dedicates his money to the temple
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:38am On Nov 02, 2023
Aemmyjah:
The way the Pharisees used the Torah to teach that one need not help his parents if he dedicates his money to the temple
Of course they will surely back it up with Bible verses but then most of those coming to the temple have doubts about such teaching moreover Pharisees often contradicts one another due to pride so the Pharisees can't find a united people practicing what they're teaching.

Only Jesus who taught his disciples and prayed that they speak in harmony {John 17:22} was able to produce the FRUIT expected of a true Rabbi (Teacher) that's why God blessed the group Jesus taught by sending His Holy Spirit to anoint them {Act 2:1-4} and when confused Jews in Jerusalem asked what is happening Peter reminded them that it's the fulfilment of God's promise to faithful Jews {Act 2:16-18 compare to Joel 28} sincere Jews were touched to the heart that they asked Peter and the other anointed Christians:

“Men, brothers, what should we do?” Act 2:37

The first century Jews were used to baptism already through John the baptist but this time around they must be baptized in the name of Jesus {Act 2:38} the same man they condemned in Jerusalem {Matthew 27:25} if truthfully they have repented from the heart and willing to gain salvation! smiley
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