Jodera:

Well, true.
I'll let it go.

At least, I didn't watch them live to know the reason why a 20yr psv boy would be crowned world best. I guess they're some things wiki can't probably tell us

nani667:
#TrashfordOUT
#TrashHagOUT
#SackTheFrauds
#KillTheBasterds

metodman:
I do not have a problem with sacking ETH.... But Arnold and Moutough must go first. Let a new DOF decide on our next manager. They can't try to absolve themselves by appointing another who they are still gonna sack. ETH might be a problem currently but he's not the main problem.

What's happening with the process of identifying talents, for example. I am 100% sure some of the players we bought were because of the media, fans etc. Most people were desperately putting out posts about Anthony, Onana, Amrabat etc. I think the only player most didn't agree on was Mount. The club wanted Poch but went for ETH cos of the media and fans. All these show me that we do not have football people running the club. It's so obvious that they do not really know what they are doing. They are simply learning on the job but without direction.

It was always gonna be difficult for ETH to perform here. He was always working in well-structured clubs and was always surrounded by people that would even say no to his requests, by going out for better players. When he arrived, he was allowed to do whatever he liked cos they wanted him to automatically bring his achievements here without considering the context. That's why we can not absolve him from the faults too. However. I know he will get a well-run club and will perform well. Currently he's like a fish outside it's natural habitat (water)... our water is complex and unnatural.


We need a change from the top!

nani667:
#TrashfordOUT
#TrashHagOUT
#SackTheFrauds
#KillTheBasterds

nani667:
#TrashfordOUT
#TrashHagOUT
#SackTheFrauds
#KillTheBasterds

Expert17:
I remember Anthony and Gakpo argument 🤣

Christobam, eph12 and co how far?

patrickmuf:
See how you sneaked in "unarguably" just so you can trash our own signings when someone counters.

Let me check the best players they sign so we can test your logic, Mendy, Militao, Rudiger, Joselu, Bellingham, Modric, Camavinga, Tchoumeni etc.

How is it different from; Hojllund, Amad, Bruno, Onana, Martial, Amrabat, Di Maria, Sancho, Lisandro Martinez etc? I don't even want to add Mount and Antony who were requested by ETH himself...

Madrid are executing the season without a world class CF and are still dependent on Modric in midfield whilst their defence is injury ravaged but we don't hear a lot about it because they have a coach that knows what he is doing.

patrickmuf:
If they had said no to his stupid request and somehow we still find our way to this point, y'all would've been slamming them for not getting the players he requested for.

When the board refused to get Mou his CB target in his last season at the club citing how he signed Lindelof and Bailly a year or two earlier, some Mou fans ripped the board apart. Now, you are saying that the board should have said no to ETH...

What exactly will they do to please some of you?

ETH takes the blame.

ChristoBam:

Lmao, I'm just seeing this.

Are you even joking rn?

How are Madrid signings different from ours? You're really saying this?

Madrid select the best among the bunch and leave us dueling for the rest. We wanted Bellingham, Tchoameni and Camavinga. That's literally their midfield. We wanted those 3 and we couldn't even get close.

Asking how Amrabat and co are different from Madrid signings.

Don't start saying funny things because it's all out on Ten Hag for you.

afrodoc2:


You said so many funny things here but the 2 that made me laugh the most is knowing that you were crying so shamelessly and you calling yourself a big man.

patrickmuf:
If they had said no to his stupid request and somehow we still find our way to this point, y'all would've been slamming them for not getting the players he requested for.

When the board refused to get Mou his CB target in his last season at the club citing how he signed Lindelof and Bailly a year or two earlier, some Mou fans ripped the board apart. Now, you are saying that the board should have said no to ETH...

What exactly will they do to please some of you?

ETH takes the blame.

metodman:



I'm not absolving ETH in all these, Patrick. However, the current structure of the club doesn't in any way help any manager. I'm not a Prophet of doom but based on the events of the past years, I don't think the next manager will succeed if the structure isn't changed prior to him being appointed. I just think we have been trying same things for years, it's time we do things differently.

ChristoBam:


Wait, don't you understand that in all of these, while we were shouting Woodward out, what we were screaming for was a competent DOF/Sporting director?

Why were we excited about Rangnick? Because of his coaching abilities?

What's with the Amnaesia?

Why are you people talking about everyone complaining about getting the manager targets while totally ignoring the fact we all wanted a sporting director that'd be in charge of all these things.


Would you trust Murtough to be in charge of player's recruitments?

patrickmuf:
You are just impossible...

Are those players the only ones in the world? Are they the best?

They're a lot of good players out there. Camavinga, Tchoameni and Bellingham were not signed by City, Liverpool, Inter, Bayern, Arsenal, Barca and the likes but they're still doing very well so, spare me with talk of "best among the bunch"...

patrickmuf:
We get a DoF now and there's little he can do until the summer (end of the season).

We get a new manager and we can salvage the season.

Choose...

ChristoBam:

Please don't start today. You know what started the whole Convo.

You talked about Madrid continuously sacking managers till they get they win things. I told you it's because they sign the best. Na there you begin dey compare Amrabat signing to Bellingham.

Liverpool, City and co built long term projects. They buy players to fit into a system and style of play. They don't sack manager after manager like you were alluding to.

patrickmuf:
At this stage of the season, the only way forward is bringing in a new manager.

You can't get in a new DoF right now because January window does not present an opportunity to overhaul the squad so, should we endure until the end of the season even when we have the chance to salvage the season? Talk to me bro...

ChristoBam:

And then start all over again with a manager that's not as good as Ten Hag? If you believe the system is faulty and we need a sporting director, you'll look beyond this shitty season. And when you look beyond this shit, you'll realize Ten Hag is better than the other options in terms of what we need.

Believe it or not, we sack Ten Hag and Emery is the best we're getting.

metodman:


So who is this miracle worker that can do that

We are in a bad situation and there's no way this team can be overhauled in 3years with Glazers still being around. Very Very Very few managers can perform magic with this team...in fact I don't think they are up to 5. We need to be very strategic this time around. Admittedly, ETH has added more mumu players who will be difficult to move on... not to talk about the ones we have always had.

ChristoBam:

And then start all over again with a manager that's not as good as Ten Hag? If you believe the system is faulty and we need a sporting director, you'll look beyond this shitty season. And when you look beyond this shit, you'll realize Ten Hag is better than the other options in terms of what we need.

Believe it or not, we sack Ten Hag and Emery is the best we're getting.

patrickmuf:
Why are you not comparing Bellingham to the players who have come in and done well?

Why not compare Bruno with Ceballos?

I told you yesterday that City and Liverpool could afford to stick with Pep and Klopp because their respective teams showed signs of what was to come. Can you say the same about the current Utd?

See how Pep brought in players that suits his style...Klopp did the same and even when he lost lost the core of his team, check out how he was intentional about fixing his midfield with players fit for propose.

ChristoBam:

Why would I compare Bruno with Ceballos. Was Ceballos brought in to solve a midfield problem? Man was a Malacia-like signing.

When Madrid want to solve a problem, they go for the best. They needed midfielders and went for the best young midfielders available in Europe. We all could just watch.

They wanted a striker and are trying to get probably the best footballer in the world rn to fill the role.


Also, let's pretend Pep and Klopp work under the same structure as United. Is it the likes of Murtough helping with player recruitments?
Y'all won't get it cuz it's about sacking the manager rn.

patrickmuf:
When Man Utd is involved, you start hearing talk of miracle worker.

Is Eddie Howe a miracle worker?

Is Emery a miracle worker?

Is Psotecoglou a miracle worker?

That's how you guys will be asking which good is in the market whilst our rivals will be signing quality players.