#IstandwithJesus

What about you?

Do not be surprised that my position on this matter may differ from the majority of Christians, because i'm not someone that follows the crowd but Christ.

Although i pray for Israel everyday, [my prayer is not for the peace of Israel but for God's Will to be done in Israel.

That's how Jesus taught us to pray, according to the Will of God, and the Will of God may not always be for the peace of Israel.

Hence I pray that whatever the Will of God is, let it be done.

That's my prayer for Israel, Nigeria, and the whole world.

God is not willing that anyone perish but that all comes to repentance, so I also pray that Israel comes to true repentance and to the knowledge of Christ because upon such lies their peace, freedom and salvation.

However if they don't, there's no amount of prayer or support on Earth that could save them.

God Himself said:

2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

So God will not even hear the cries or prayers of Israel despite calling them His own people, if they don't repent and turn away from their wicked ways and to His righteous way, how much more those of others?

That's why it's best to pray according to the Will of God for Israel, so that one's prayer would not be in vain, because God Will may always be for the peace of Israel.

Even the biblical righteous men and prophets of old, such as, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, could not save Israel from impending destruction, after they had persistently transgressed God commandments and provoked Him to wrath countless time with their wickedness and rebellious ways, that their cup became full and God was finally fed up and determined to punish them.

God's people, Israel, were mercilessly driven out of their land by their enemies, that their land laid desolate for seventy years to observe her rest from their evil and abominable activities. 2 Chronicles 36:15-21, Ezekiel 15:7-8, Leviticus 26:32-36,

This was what God Himself brought upon His own people Israel in accordance with the words of His prophets, therefore God hasn't always been for the peace of Israel, and God had shown that if He's not with Israel but against them, it's dangerous for anyone to try to help or support them because it's tantamount to fighting against God. Isaiah 31:1-3

Hence i choose to stand with God instead so that whatever His plan is concerning Israel, I would be for it and not against it.

God bless.

I don't have any soft spot or sentiments towards Israel as a nation as many Christians do.

It's their righteous men and prophets as Abraham, Moses, Samuel, David, Esther, Elijah, men who made Israel to be what it was by their obedience to God's Word and their righteous walk with Him that I am endeared to and feel highly inspired by their lifestyle and stories.

Those were the exception to what Israel as a people generally were, as God Himself called Israel a stiff-necked and rebellious nation and was close to destroying them in the wilderness after they had provoked Him to wrath by their wickedness and rebelliousness attitude, but for the timely intervention of His servant Moses who they also came close to killing despite all he did for them because he told them the Truth. Exodus 32:9-14

*Israel killed many prophets that were sent to warn them of their evil.

*They rejected, persecuted and even attempted to kill Jesus who was meant to be their Messiah and Peacegiver, that Jesus wept bitterly about them because hence, they had rejected things that were meant for their peace. Luke 13:34

*They condemned Jesus to death on the basis of false witnesses, allegations and charges, and even said, "let his blood be on us and our children." Matthew 27:25

*Moreover they also persecuted and killed several members of Christ's church, including the apostles. Saul himself (later known as Paul) who had a hand in Stephen's death narrowly escaped death in their hands after his conversion.

They can't do such things to the righteous, prophets, apostles and even the Messiah and yet expect to enjoy peace at the same time, because there were serious consequences for that.

Most of what they're suffering presently were actually a result of such wicked things they did in the past, and from what was consequently prophesied about them in the Bible, things were bound to get much worse.

Therefore their only remedy to that is true repentance and to accept Jesus as their Messiah and Saviour, otherwise they would never know peace, hence why that is my prayer for Israel.

God bless.

I stand with humanity and the oppressed


We must be honest with ourselves and call a spade a spade, and if God will reject me for saying the truth, then so be it

I also don't believe I need to go to Israel or the temple sight in Jerusalem to get any validation from God or become any more a man of God than I already am in the sight of God.

Jesus said the hour is coming when we don't need to go to mountain or Jerusalem to worship the Father but worship in Spirit and in Truth for that is the kind of worship the Father. John 4: 21-24.

So i believe going to the temple Jerusalem to worship God is not necessary as some still think.

What's important is to worship God in Spirit and in Truth as God desire to be worshipped, and no matter how many times one goes to the temple in Jerusalem to worship God, if one doesn't worship God in Spirit and in Truth, the person is worshipping God in vain as God said of those Israelites who worship Him with their lips and mouths but whose hearts are far from Him. Matthew 15:8

God bless.

Jesus said, "he that lives by the sword shall die by the sword", so since the Palestinians attacked Israel with the sword, they have no right to complain when Israel pays them back in the same coin.

So I am not saying Israel is wrong for trying to secure themselves against such attacks but what is meant for lasting peace of Israel.

God bless.

I stand with palestinian. Israel are landgrabbers, apartheid regime.

There is no fairness in a warfare.......

BEFORE YOU LIKE OR FOLLOW ME, FIRST BE INFORMED THAT THE WORD OF GOD WHICH I OBSERVE AND TEACH MEN TO OBSERVE IS NOT THE BIBLE, BUT JESUS AND HIS TEACHINGS IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENT IN

Where did you get the word of God, teachings and commandments of Jesus from?
A little contradiction there obviously.

What I find funny is that the Bible & Quoran make it clear, the land of Israel belongs to the Jews.

This is proof how deceptive & Evil the Palestinians are !
They never were indigenous to the land of Israel.

1 Yet in the quoran, Palestine is not mentioned once !
If the land belongs to Palestine it would be mentioned in the quoran

Israel that is mentioned many times by God in the Bible.
Israel mentioned many times by allah in the Quoran.

2 The God of the Bible states clearly the land belongs to Jews.

Gen 15:18 KJV
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying,
Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:


Again allah too in the quoran states that the land belongs to the Jews

Surah 5
(20)And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people!
Remember Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets,
and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of (His) creatures.
(21) O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you.
Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers:
(22) They said: O Moses! Lo! a giant people (dwell) therein and lo!
we go not in till they go forth from thence. When they go forth from thence, then we will enter (not till then).

So with both God & allah saying the land belongs to the jews, why are hamas calling for the destruction of Israel?

cornelboy:

Where did you get the word of God, teachings and commandments of Jesus from?
A little contradiction there obviously.

The same place i got the lies the serpent told Eve among other lies of the devil as those of his temptation of Jesus, also others ideas inspired of the flesh not of the Spirit as what Peter said to Jesus that made Jesus rebuke Him saying, "Get thee behind me, Satan!"

That they are in the Bible doesn't make them the Word of God even if you think so.

It takes the Spirit of God to reveal these mysteries of the Kingdom of God to men.

jesusjnr2020:
The same place i got the lies the serpent told Eve among other lies of the devil as those of his temptation of Jesus, also others ideas inspired of the flesh not of the Spirit as what Peter said to Jesus that made Jesus rebuke Him saying, "Get thee behind me, Satan!"

That they are in the Bible doesn't make them the Word of God even if you think so.

It takes the Spirit of God to reveal these mysteries of the Kingdom of God to men.

Everything makes up the bible.

cornelboy:

Everything makes up the bible.

Yeah... but not the Word of God. That's the difference. The Word of God is only the Word inspired of God, not those inspired of the flesh or the evil spirit called the devil.

jesusjnr2020:
Yeah... but not the Word of God. That's the difference. The Word of God is only the Word inspired of God, not those inspired of the flesh or the evil spirit called the devil.

Was Moses there when God created Adam and Eve? How did he write the book of genesis if the book wasn't inspired?

Yet everything makes up the bible whether it was the direct words of God or not.

cornelboy:

Was Moses there when God created Adam and Eve? How did he write the book of genesis if the book wasn't inspired?

Yet everything makes up the bible whether it was the direct words of God or not.

Nice one you used Adam and Eve as an illustration. What happened there was a revelation. It was a revelation of the history or what transpired in the beginning to Moses.

In that revelation, God revealed the difference between His Word and that which was (inspired) of the devil which is exactly my point.

He also showed the consequence of not following His Word, but that of the devil in that revelation of Adam and Eve, so that others would not make the same mistake they did. So it would be erroneous to take what God depicted as the word of the devil in that revelation as the Word of God just because it is in the Bible.

You should also remember what Jesus said to those who spoke about the law Moses gave to them concerning divorce? Isn't that in the Bible also? But Jesus said it was inspired of the hardness of man's heart (flesh), but not of God's Word in the beginning which showed them how it ought to be.

This was one of the reasons Jesus was hated or rejected by the teachers of the law in those days, so tell me what's the difference between you and them?

We would rather follow the example and teachings of Jesus not the traditions of men.

See as dem dey drag Jesus Christ enter wetin no concern Jesus Christ abeg!

Jesus Christ came to recruit the Lost Sheep of God's Israel for His own Nation, the Kingdom of God which He made clear is a Kingdom not of this world. Why would it matter to Him what two earthly nations --- both created by the constitutions and intents of men----- that have nothing to do with God's plan for His people? This religion called Christianity indeed thrives on making a mockery of God and that which is about Him.

jesusjnr2020:
Nice one you used Adam and Eve as an illustration. What happened there was a revelation. It was a revelation of the history or what transpired in the beginning to Moses.

In that revelation, God revealed the difference between His Word and that which was (inspired) of the devil which is exactly my point.

He also showed the consequence of not following His Word, but that of the devil in that revelation of Adam and Eve, so that others would not make the same mistake they did. So it would be erroneous to take what God depicted as the word of the devil in that revelation as the Word of God just because it is in the Bible.

You should also remember what Jesus said to those who spoke about the law Moses gave to them concerning divorce? Isn't that in the Bible also? But Jesus said it was inspired of the hardness of man's heart (flesh), but not of God's Word in the beginning which showed them how it ought to be.

This was one of the reasons Jesus was hated or rejected by the teachers of the law in those days, so tell me what's the difference between you and them?

We would rather follow the example and teachings of Jesus not the traditions of men.

Was the revelation inspired or not?

cornelboy:

Was the revelation inspired or not?

It was inspired of God but not every word or action depicted in it.

Was Moses law on divorce in the Bible inspired of God?

jesusjnr2020:
Do not be surprised that my position on this matter may differ from the majority of Christians, because i'm not someone that follows the crowd but Christ.

Although i pray for Israel everyday, [my prayer is not for the peace of Israel but for God's Will to be done in Israel.

That's how Jesus taught us to pray, according to the Will of God, and the Will of God may not always be for the peace of Israel.

Hence I pray that whatever the Will of God is, let it be done.

That's my prayer for Israel, Nigeria, and the whole world.

God is not willing that anyone perish but that all comes to repentance, so I also pray that Israel comes to true repentance and to the knowledge of Christ because upon such lies their peace, freedom and salvation.

However if they don't, there's no amount of prayer or support on Earth that could save them.

God Himself said:

2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

So God will not even hear the cries or prayers of Israel despite calling them His own people, if they don't repent and turn away from their wicked ways and to His righteous way, how much more those of others?

That's why it's best to pray according to the Will of God for Israel, so that one's prayer would not be in vain, because God Will may always be for the peace of Israel.

Even the biblical righteous men and prophets of old, such as, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, could not save Israel from impending destruction, after they had persistently transgressed God commandments and provoked Him to wrath countless time with their wickedness and rebellious ways, that their cup became full and God was finally fed up and determined to punish them.

God's people, Israel, were mercilessly driven out of their land by their enemies, that their land laid desolate for seventy years to observe her rest from their evil and abominable activities. 2 Chronicles 36:15-21, Ezekiel 15:7-8, Leviticus 26:32-36,

This was what God Himself brought upon His own people Israel in accordance with the words of His prophets, therefore God hasn't always been for the peace of Israel, and God had shown that if He's not with Israel but against them, it's dangerous for anyone to try to help or support them because it's tantamount to fighting against God. Isaiah 31:1-3

Hence i choose to stand with God instead so that whatever His plan is concerning Israel, I would be for it and not against it.

God bless.

Bros nothing connects Israel of today with the Israel of the bible. Your post reeks of ignorance.

jesusjnr2020:
It was inspired of God but not every word or action depicted in it.

Was Moses law on divorce in the Bible inspired of God?

You should have got my point by now. Everything makes up the bible. Whether they are God's words or actions or not.

cornelboy:

You should have got my point by now. Everything makes up the bible. Whether they are God's words or actions or not.

No I actually don't. I only see you contradicting yourself. I said the Bible is not the Word of God to me, but the teachings of Jesus and anything else in the Bible that aligns with it, but you said that was contradictory, however failed to show me how.

By the way, you didn't answer the question I asked after I did yours.

jesusjnr2020:
No I actually don't. I only see you contradicting yourself. I said the Bible is not the Word of God to me, but the teachings of Jesus and anything else in the Bible that aligns with it, but you said that was contradictory, however failed to show me how.

By the way, you didn't answer the question I asked after I did yours.

There's no word of God in the Torah?

jesusjnr2020:
I said the Bible is not the Word of God to me

So Bible is whose word?

Do you agree that all scriptures are God's product of inspiration?

but the teachings of Jesus and anything else in the Bible that aligns with it

This is what we called cherry picking.

cornelboy:

There's no word of God in the Torah?

You still didn't answer my question.

Answer mine first before asking me another as I did yours.

jesusjnr2020:
You still didn't answer my question.

Answer mine first before asking me another as I did yours.

All the laws for the Israelites were from God.

The present day Israeli was created by the Rostchchilds....
But it was occupied by the Palestinians...

If the Israelis maintained the boarder that was drawn in 1948, there would be no trouble...

They are nothing but land grabbers..

jesusjnr2020:
No I actually don't. I only see you contradicting yourself. I said the Bible is not the Word of God to me, but the teachings of Jesus and anything else in the Bible that aligns with it, but you said that was contradictory, however failed to show me how.

By the way, you didn't answer the question I asked after I did yours.

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Friend, I see what appears to be zeal... but I pray that the LORD GOD shows you that the entire Holy Bible, from Genesis through Revelation is the infallible, inspired, written word of GOD...

The Lord YESHUA , the WORD, the LOGOS said Himself, "Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come— In the volume of the book it is written of Me— To do Your will, O God." - Hebrews 10:7

He also says, "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” - John 5:46-47

GOD clearly records the unrighteous actions and deviations of individuals and the nation/s... but it is all inspired and all useful for a number of purposes, all of which GOD knows... including saving souls, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

"for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21

David’s Last Words
"Now these are the last words of David. Thus says David the son of Jesse; Thus says the man raised up on high, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel: “The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God." - 2 Samuel 23:1-3

cornelboy:

All the laws for the Israelites were from God.

That's false if the following saying of Christ is anything to go by.

Matthew 10:5-9 (KJV)

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

I hope you can now see the difference between the word of the flesh and the Word of God in the Bible, and hence why I follow the Bible Christly not blindly.

sonmvayina:
The present day Israeli was created by the Rostchchilds....
But it was occupied by the Palestinians...

If the Israelis maintained the boarder that was drawn in 1948, there would be no trouble...

They are nothing but land grabbers..

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Read the Holy Scriptures... and you will at least know that:

"The earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell therein. For He has founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the waters." - Psalm 24:1-2

So, you would know that GOD is Sovereign and made everything and everyone and can give what He wants to whom He wants... always doing so in righteousness!

You would know what GOD Himself told Abraham after He called him out of Ur of the Chaldees (current day Iraq) to make him a nation (Israel), as well as a "father of us all" (Romans 4:11-16), who come to trust by faith and grace in GOD/The LORD YESHUA for salvation of the soul from the coming judgment... that HE gave him the land! (Notwithstanding their historic expulsion to Babylon and then the rest of word in A.D. 70 by the Romans because of sin!)

Promises to Abram
"Now the Lord had said to Abram: “Get out of your country, From your family And from your father’s house, To a land that I will show you. I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.” - Genesis 12:1-3

"On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.” - Genesis 15:18-22

"Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.” - Genesis 17:8

However, there were warnings to the new nation:

"You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations, either any of your own nation or any stranger who dwells among you (for all these abominations the men of the land have done, who were before you, and thus the land is defiled), lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you." - Leviticus 18:26-28 (Also Leviticus 20:21-23)

So, we know who owns it and how they prophetically came back to the land in 1948 after centuries on centuries of expulsion...

But for command to the contrary, one must now humanely consider all human suffering and treat people as we want to be treated (Luke 6:31)... violence often begets violence.

“You shall neither mistreat a stranger nor oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." - Exodus 22:21

“Also you shall not oppress a stranger, for you know the heart of a stranger, because you were strangers in the land of Egypt." - Exodus 23:9

"Therefore love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." - Deuteronomy 10:19

Can one have true lasting peace without The "Prince" (Isaiah 9:6) / King of Peace - YESHUA the CHRIST?

GOD, however, is mercifully not done with the nation -

"For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in." - Romans 11:25

Praise GOD for so great a salvation for all people who come to the Lord YESHUA!!!

jesusjnr2020:
That's false if the following saying of Christ is anything to go by.

Matthew 10:5-9 (KJV)

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

I hope you can now see the difference between the word of the flesh and the Word of God in the Bible, and hence why I follow the Bible Christly not blindly.

No word of God in the old testament?