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Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 9:31am On Nov 19, 2023 |
OGHENAOGIE:Like making reference of people that didn't participate in primary elections of APC becoming flag bearers. What a good reference point of law. May God punish devil in you. What you people want to turn the system to, God will surely not allow you people. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Christistruth03: 9:36am On Nov 19, 2023 |
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Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 9:49am On Nov 19, 2023 |
Slurity:Mr. Man, no other political party can determine who and who is a member of another political party, not even INEC. It is the prerogative of a political party to know who and who are its members because it is wholly internal issue, just as individual's family issue. You know why it is so because the constitution says by the qualification of an aspirant, that is, shall be sponsor by a political party. The question should be, did NNPP sponsor Governor Yusuf as aspirant? If they did, what concern APC on whom NNPP sponsored? No law forbids citizens from joining any political at any time and there is no law that says party cannot sponsor any candidate at any time before the final substitution of candidates with INEC. Remember that even a candidate that wins primary can even be substituted if they follow protocol for doing that, let alone someone that participated in primary election of his political party. Secondly, on the issue of stamped and unsigned ballots, the EA gives a leeway on the acceptability of ballots if unstamped or unsigned. That is if it is recognizable that it was INEC ballot that was unsigned or atamped, then, the RO can admit the ballot as valid. And since it was counted and recorded, it means it was admitted. The law should not be turned upsidedown for predetermined end. There is no way the two issues they hinged their judgement on can stand the law in the atmosphere where rule of law is sacrosanct. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by pquaver(m): 10:09am On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: Keep quiet..i have told U.. continue to Support..U will be bleating Like female goat one Heat when the Game U Push Forward today will be used again Ur candidate..obidients Always Action before thinking... |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by MomohMrMoore: 10:16am On Nov 19, 2023 |
Lol, Ganduje is the Kano state Tribunal and Tinubu is the Appeal court? Who is the Supreme court? APC? Funny people? |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Jagabanarmy: 11:08am On Nov 19, 2023 |
Racoon:Case closed!! This judgment will be overturned by the supreme court.. The judgment is politically motivated |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by gratefulheart(m): 11:12am On Nov 19, 2023 |
Noise maker, paid fake columnist, he has started again. You did the same during Buhari's regime. Mad bitter haters people will just be making noise and misleading people without knowing what's happening Abba Yusuf know that he will lose the case because all the allegations are true. It has nothing to do with Ganduje and Tinubu. It's the law and nothing will happen. For those who are curious. ...read further. Winning election is beyond having huge followers, noise makers on social media and Money. Do you understand the technicalities from primary to election? #inecnigeria and the judiciary are not the problem of Nigeria election but the politicians. 1. Now Abba blamed his party NNPP for not conducting primary election. (🤣) 2. He want to Stop INEC to testify that they don’t have his Primaries election result. 3. I want the court to stop APC from challenging his victory ( who does that?😂) 3. There are other things why some noise makers elections was nullified. 4. What is the fault of INEC and judiciary? Stop blaming the ruling party. Read this 👇 The National Legal Adviser of the NNPP, Robert Hon, has revealed that Abba Kabir Yusuf was removed as Kano State governor by the Court of Appeal due to his lack of membership in the NNPP during both his candidacy and election. He cited sections 177, paragraph C, and 177, subsection 2, of the amended 1999 Constitution as the basis for disqualification. Hon explained, "The reason for the decision of the Court of Appeal was that Abba Kabir Yusuf was never a member of the NNPP. Therefore, he was disqualified under section 177, paragraph C, and 177, subsection 2 of the 1999 Constitution as amended. That was the reason for the decision. The issue of the deduction, the issue of IREV, and all other issues that were submitted for determination by this court were not considered. Remember that, I must tell you that the appellant submitted nine issues for determination by this court. The court in its own wisdom picked and chose three issues, major one of which is the issue of disqualification: that he wasn't a member of the NNPP at the time he contested, and as at the time he participated in the election that was held on the 18th of March, 2023. That was the anchor of the judgement of the Court of Appeal." Racoon: |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 12:07pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
[quote author=Christistruth03 post=127048474][/quote] It was what you said I replied. Telling the world that the judgement of court is a law and a reference point. That was what you said. And that was why I said, can we now make the supreme court judgements of making Lawal and Akpabio flag bearers of their party reference point, why it was known that thy didn't participate in their party's primaries. Meanwhile, in your posted posters of tribunal judgement, that ballots were not signed or stamped can never be a prerequisite to void votes if and only if the RO admitted that the ballots emanated from INEC by the EA. Again, does the petitioner proved beyond reasonable doubt that those ballots are not INEC ballots and also show videos of hoodlums disrupting polling booths on the election day. If that was so, why singling out the votes scored by NNPP and left out votes scored by APC and other political parties. Because somebody said on this forum that in those polling units the ballots for APC were signed and stamped. I thought the EA says where RO satisfied of an unstamped or unsigned it becomes valid, why did tribunal feigned ignorant of the same law? |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Christistruth03: 12:26pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
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Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 1:28pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
pquaver:There's no sense in this rant. You should delete it |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by bahaushe1: 1:53pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Racoon: 1) It was his "qualification" to contest the governorship election that was challenged according to S177 of our Constitution and S134 of the Electoral Act 2022. This gound has effectively transformed the issue from an "internal party affair" to a constitutional matter upon which the courts have jurisdiction and the opponent (APC and Gawuna) could suffer damage substantially if the issue is adjudicated upon. 2) Neither Abba nor NNPP could present valid oral or documentary evidence to the court that Abba was indeed a member of NNPP at the time of the election and was sponsored by same, despite the presence of plethora of documents at their disposal. They resorted to presenting manipulated documents, which the court rejected. 3) What happened in Kano is as result of share negligence of Kwankwaso, Abba, NNPP, INEC, and their lawyers. Find time to read the judgment of the tribunal please. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by bahaushe1: 2:01pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
tinsel:The issue is "qualification". Once a candidate is not qualified to contest an election, whatever votes (valid or invalid) he scores become a waste, in the eyes of the law. So, it will amount to waste of time to determine whether or not some of the votes he scored are valid. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 2:28pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20:that's the best you can do.. curses and nothing more.. shows you are low in thinking and mentality... |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 3:35pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
OGHENAOGIE:Ahhhh! "May God punish the devil in you"is now a curse and not a prayer in your own world. Sorry I don't throw barter and that above simple prayer can never be said to be a curse to any right thinking person. Just trying to dodge question. Was it a good reference point for a supreme court to have validated the candidacy of Lawal and Akpabio why they didn't participate in APC's primaries? The ball is now in your court and whatever you wished the country, God will wish you in return, as God wish me whatever I wished the country. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 3:43pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20:you are ignorant and foolish so continue anyway yeye |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 4:17pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
OGHENAOGIE:I won't go low to your level because I am more than throwing barter like missile. I ask again, was it good for supreme court to have validated the candidacy of Lawal and Akpabio, taking into consideration, they never participated in the said primaries to senate? Stop dodging the obvious and stand with the truth always. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by yemex04(m): 4:52pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: I worked as a Presiding Officer & I know a ballot paper issued to a voter to cast his/her votes must first be stamped & sign.. Even by common sense, an unsigned document can not be said to be officially valid.. I don't know how this becomes a point of Argument. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 5:22pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
yemex04: But are you aware of the serial numbers on the ballot papers and the other security features on the ballot papers? Are you also aware there are situations where the number of voters exceed the pre-stamped and signed ballot papers especially in the north? It is in such cases that such ballot papers are used. Now it is very possible for such ballot papers to be unsigned. If you watched videos of Kano and Katsina especialy during elections, most times, voting continues till late into the night. So do you expect a presiding officer using ballot papers late in the night to have the patience to stamp and sign them? That is why s63(2) of EA leaves room for such because it will be unfair to the voters that their votes are voided simply because a presiding officer failed to sign and stamp them. Secondly, signing and stamping is an INEC guideline requirement and not EA. EA only recognises the serial numbers of the ballot papers. Since the courts themselves have said INEC guidelines are not what poo in the toilet, i don't know how that becomes something to cancels votes for |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 6:54pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Read and understand what you're posting Ballot papers is different from result forms |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Christistruth03: 7:07pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: Ballots are not valid Votes until they are Signed Stamped and dated by the Presiding Officers with Copies received and signed for by the Police where present
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Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 8:02pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Christistruth03:I already told you that you don't even understand what you're reading. Have you participated on the electoral process before? Where have you seen police receiving copies of ballot papers after elections? As I've said, you're confusing yourself with the screenshot. It's funny you were the one saying you're educating people when you actually in need of proper education |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by OGHENAOGIE(m): 8:10pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20:nobody ansa a stupid question.. go and find the judgment and read it... |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by yemex04(m): 8:13pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: Like I mentioned up, the EA can not be referring to the validity of the vote, the aunthecity is plausible.Those are two different things.. Moreover with courts verdict, they have interpreted the section 63(2) of the EA not to mean what you postulated.. everything becomes personal opinion. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 8:34pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
yemex04:Well, I disagree with the court verdict. You sought to validate it using your claimed experience. The validity of ballot papers is the serial numbers. That's what EA says. Official mark can be taken to mean anything and even if it means the stamp and signature of the presiding officers, the EA allows it with certain conditions and even prescribes condition for such ballot papers to be rejected. You are only reading the rejection in isolation without realizing that EA actually requires the returning officer to give reason why unmarked ballot papers are rejected in a form. The fact that there is no such form implies the RO accepted the unsigned ballots as genuinely used for the elections. The court messed up the case by saying NNPP ought to call the returning officer to explain why he accepted the ballot papers. That position contradicts EA. EA only asks the RO to explain if he rejects the ballot papers!! |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 8:37pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Christistruth03: Oga stop repeating this nonsense. Ballot papers are not given to police. Have you not voted before? Where did you see ballots given to Police? It is the EC form series that are given to police. You are pasting screenshot and still failing to understand it. God!! So much for education in this country. Folks like you mock Obidients and accuse them of being headless. Just look at yourself. Outside APC Whatsapp copy and paste you can't even understand judgement written in simple English. Gosh!! |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Christistruth03: 9:26pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: Who said ballot Papers are given to Police? Go and read the Judgement again Ballot papers are worthless until they are Stamped Signed for and dated by the Presiding officer That is when they become Valid Votes It is the Copy of the INEC Results Form and other relevant Forms recording the Ballots that are given to the Party agents and Police and they must sign that they received a copy The main copies go to INEC and Are you sure you read or understand the Judgement at all? The 165,000 Ballots results were unsigned for unstamped undated and so therefore they were Worthless!!!! Why is something so simple confusing you? Get a 10 year old Child to read and explain it to you in a way you can understand
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Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by yemex04(m): 9:53pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: Smiles , your disagreement which ends as an opinion is highly respected! but between the Courts verdicts & your disagreement? |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 9:59pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Christistruth03: You have been hawking those same screenshots like gala since yesterday and this is what you have been writing underneath Christistruth03: So it is laughable that now that you've been educated and you've corrected yourself you're referring me to a 10 year old child. Why didn't you consult a 10 year old before you started claiming ballots are given to police This guy. Are you high on something cheap or what? |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Christistruth03: 10:48pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kukutente23: Because I have been trying to explain it to you since Yesterday and you still don’t understand |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Kukutente23: 11:03pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Yeah. Continue deceiving yourself Zombie |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 6:39am On Nov 20, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Please what concern police with ballot papers? You don't even understand what you're saying at all. Police only sign result sheet after all votes had been entered and not ballot papers during voting process. Stop misleading yourself dude. Also try to brush up your IQ, you're disappointing me please. Police and ballot paper, please what I am reading. Naija education has gone to the dog. |
Re: Tinubu And Ganduje Shouldn’t Play With Fire In Kano By Farooq A. Kperogi by Akungitit: 6:58am On Nov 20, 2023 |
I think Mr Farook the Idiot intentionally forgot the issue of 160,000 votes given to NNPP that was not stamped by INEC. MUMU Farooook. |
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