Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,159,295 members, 7,839,447 topics. Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 07:24 PM

Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT - Politics (4) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT (18301 Views)

Peter Obi And LP's Case Dismissed At PEPT / Governors Yahaya Bello, Mai Buni, Hope Uzodinma, Oyebanji At PEPT Abuja / PDP: Court Of Appeal Kaduna Grants Stay Execution For High Court Kano Judgment (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 2:37pm On Nov 20, 2023
The facts are the same. What you're doing is bringing technicality to explain judiciary fraud.

The facts for Obi, Otti, Kabir, Kwankwaso are all same
garfield1:

@ Okoi Obono-Obla
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 2:39pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


Parties must sponsor candidates legally

Yes but no outsider can interfer because they ain't allowed to belong here & there. if allowed then multiparty democracy will collapse. In Amaechi and Omehia's the supreme Court settled that it's the political party contests election, same as in Bello and Faleke. Thus awarding victory to the party instead of the first runner since nomination was d issue & death occured before returning the winner.

1 Like

Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 2:40pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
The facts are the same. What you're doing is bringing technicality to explain judiciary fraud.

The facts for Obi, Otti, Kabir, Kwankwaso are all same

Oga,apc in obi case came under the electoral.this case is coming under the constitution.these are pure legal provisions
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 2:43pm On Nov 20, 2023
It is not same Supreme Court. Justice Dattijo said the Supreme court he met wasnt thesame as the one he left.

Even when a justice of the Supreme Court told you guys that the Supreme Court is corrupt and compromised and should be reformed,
your ignorance is insisting its the same!
Afamed:


Same bla bla bla

Which una patients?
When supreme court pronounced your Pandora fraud the winner of Anambra Govship election years ago, the court didn't try una patients?
When same supreme court reinstated your Pandora fraud after he was illegally removed, the court didn't try una patients.
Hypocrite na una middle name.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 2:44pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:

Section 177 is in play.

If the Supreme Court barred Jegede from questioning the sponsorship of Akeredolu. APC PDP LP, NNPP et al are barred from interloping into matters of other political parties.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 2:46pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:


Yes but no outsider can interfer because they ain't allowed to belong here & there. if allowed then multiparty democracy will collapse. In Amaechi and Omehia's the supreme Court settled that it's the political party contests election, same as in Bello and Faleke. Thus awarding victory to the party instead of the first runner since nomination was d issue & death occured before returning the winner.

There is no constitutional provision that stops a non party member from challenging such afterall you are all opponents in an election.as far as you can challenge his educational qualifications,you can challenge anything...
Nobody is inquiring into Kabir membership but his qualifications and him not being a party member of any party.that provision in the constitution is not a child's play or for fancy.it is open to all
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 2:46pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
It is not same Supreme Court. Justice Dattijo said the Supreme court he met wasnt thesame as the one he left.

Even when a justice of the Supreme Court told you guys that the Supreme Court is corrupt and compromised and should be reformed,
your ignorance is insisting its the same!

Any evidence of the corruption? He was talking of lower courts
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 2:48pm On Nov 20, 2023
These are technicalities. The facts are same!

Nigeria judiciary is not one for justice but for technicalities. They know they cannot possibly remove Kabir with the 165k unsigned ballots because thats on INEC so the brought party membership at the appeal. Was party membership mentioned at the tribunal? Has NNPP said they did not sponsor him?

How is this different from Lawan, Akpabio,
and Umahi?

Why do you justify injustice?

Again, i like the judgement for two reasons

1. Kwankwaso had it coming! He was dining with the enemies and mocking Obi.

2. Kano uprising might be the needed catalyst to cause the overdue revolution
garfield1:


Oga,apc in obi case came under the electoral.this case is coming under the constitution.these are pure legal provisions
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 2:49pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:


If the Supreme Court barred Jegede from questioning the sponsorship of Akeredolu. APC PDP LP, NNPP et al are barred from interloping into matters of other political parties.

You are getting it wrong.jegede never inquired about apc membership or internal affairs directly.he said the constitution barred a governor from being a party chairman and that his signing of aketi nomination form nullifies his candidacy.177 was never invoked
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 2:52pm On Nov 20, 2023
Has the party denied sponsoring him?
Pierocash:
no the judgement is in order. You can't claim to win an election you were never nominated for by your party. They never held a primary election, that is why even the governor himself is suing his party for that because he knew the party erred. It is done and dusted for him
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 2:55pm On Nov 20, 2023
Is Bitrus a member of APC?
garfield1:


Bitrus kaze went to court to complain.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by Kukutente23: 2:55pm On Nov 20, 2023
Pierocash:
Go and verify, he sued his party for failing to conduct a valid primary election. The case is still in court , go and verify
I've searched I can't find it except a Nairaland thread opened by a zombie with no source with obvious intent to deceive.
You can supply it if you have though

1 Like

Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by Kukutente23: 2:55pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


Ntin owo.up tinubu
Bleatings of a demented scumbag.
Ewu
After 8 years of licking Buhari's behind you have now shifted to Tinubu
What's it with you and old men

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 2:58pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


There is no constitutional provision that stops a non party member from challenging such afterall you are all opponents in an election.as far as you can challenge his educational qualifications,you can challenge anything...
Nobody is inquiring into Kabir membership but his qualifications and him not being a party member of any party.that provision in the constitution is not a child's play or for fancy.it is open to all


What a circus!! Hear yourself; you ain't "challenging his membership but his qualifications and him not being a party member of any party". NNPP didn't deny sponsoring him neither did INEC say he is an independent candidate.

2 Likes

Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 3:01pm On Nov 20, 2023
Your personal experience will eventually make you to stop supporting evil. Some people like personal experience to have an inflection point
garfield1:


Any evidence of the corruption? He was talking of lower courts
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:03pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
These are technicalities. The facts are same!

Nigeria judiciary is not one for justice but for technicalities. They know they cannot possibly remove Kabir with the 165k unsigned ballots because thats on INEC so the brought party membership at the appeal. Was party membership mentioned at the tribunal? Has NNPP said they did not sponsor him?

How is this different from Lawan, Akpabio,
and Umahi?

Why do you justify injustice?

Again, i like the judgement for two reasons

1. Kwankwaso had it coming! He was dining with the enemies and mocking Obi.

2. Kano uprising might be the needed catalyst to cause the overdue revolution

The problem is that you obidients always talk without facts,you speak on what you know not of.leace this matter,you don't know jack.
Go and read the judgment of the tribunal,the first ground of apc petition was his non membership.the tribunal ruled that he wasn't qualified but called for a rerun.it was the invalid ballots that sack him.
It is clear that you don't know what you are saying so keep shut
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:05pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Your personal experience will eventually make you to stop supporting evil. Some people like personal experience to have an inflection point

Oga,I was an idealist but realism is the best.you just hate apc
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:06pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:



What a circus!! Hear yourself; you ain't "challenging his membership but his qualifications and him not being a party member of any party". NNPP didn't deny sponsoring him neither did INEC say he is an independent candidate.

Evidence nnpp tendered shows he's not their member
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:06pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Is Bitrus a member of APC?

A pdp member who got that initial judgment that buried plateau APC
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by ValarDoharis: 3:14pm On Nov 20, 2023
One of two things will happen in the not too distant future. APC will kill Nigeria or Nigeria will kill APC. There'll be no middle ground
garfield1:


The problem is that you obidients always talk without facts,you speak on what you know not of.leace this matter,you don't know jack.
Go and read the judgment of the tribunal,the first ground of apc petition was his non membership.the tribunal ruled that he wasn't qualified but called for a rerun.it was the invalid ballots that sack him.
It is clear that you don't know what you are saying so keep shut
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 3:18pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Is Bitrus a member of APC?

No &has no case in Court.

1 Like

Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:27pm On Nov 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
One of two things will happen in the not too distant future. APC will kill Nigeria or Nigeria will kill APC. There'll be no middle ground

Why are you not looking at the merits? If you are clean,they will be no ground to remove you
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by Fiscus105(m): 3:29pm On Nov 20, 2023
koboko69:


Read u nor go read.
internal Party matters is different from CONSTITUTIONAL matters.


Prejudice siphon your common sense.

When they asked about Ahmed Lawal obtaining two tickets against Naija constitution. Werey would still find constitution to defend nonsense.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 3:31pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


Evidence nnpp tendered shows he's not their member


What did NNPP tender? Did INEC also say he is an independent candidate? APC desperately trying to use disenchanted characters for forum shopping. No NNPP Guber candidate has a case against Abba Yusuf. APC lawyers are trying to mix nomination & sponsorship when caught they shift it to qualification to draw in the constitution & when asked what is qualification for candidates they cite mundane & irrelevant sections of the constitution. I don't blame them I blame some cash &carry judges.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by Xwizard: 3:32pm On Nov 20, 2023
Petacephas:
Bros we need to connect. Abeg I need your contact

Am available bro, my WhatsApp digit on my profile
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:36pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:



What did NNPP tender? Did INEC also say he is an independent candidate? APC desperately trying to use disenchanted characters for forum shopping. No NNPP Guber candidate has a case against Abba Yusuf. APC lawyers are trying to mix nomination & sponsorship when caught they shift it to qualification to draw in the constitution & when asked what is qualification for candidates they cite mundane & irrelevant sections of the constitution. I don't blame them I blame some cash &carry judges.

The nnpp membership card tendered is fake,the register tendered does not have his name, the updated register they brought is misleading,no record of payment of dues,his nomination form was filed late.there is nothing to show that he is a member of any party
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 3:42pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


You are getting it wrong.jegede never inquired about apc membership or internal affairs directly.he said the constitution barred a governor from being a party chairman and that his signing of aketi nomination form nullifies his candidacy.177 was never invoked

His argument was simple APC had no exco because Buni wasn't the party chair as he couldn't hold two executive position at the same time. if so APC couldn't have sponsored Akeredolu since it's the national Secretariat that forwards candidates name but the supreme Court thought otherwise after agreeing to the his position on the role of national Secretariat. Nomination &Sponsorship are party functions an interloper can't litigate on. Qualification is different from nomination & sponsorship but APC is smuggled in 'Qualification' used it in place of membership, nomination & sponsorship. Una don take this heist too far
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 3:51pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


The nnpp membership card tendered is fake,the register tendered does not have his name, the updated register they brought is misleading,no record of payment of dues,his nomination form was filed late.there is nothing to show that he is a member of any party


am sure you know the supreme Court pronouncement on that - APC vs Obi. it's the business of LP on who to sponsor. Non party members litigating are Interlopers
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 3:58pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:



am sure you know the supreme Court pronouncement on that - APC vs Obi. it's the business of LP on who to sponsor. Non party members litigating are Interlopers

No sir,obi matter was anchored on 77 EA and only register was tendered.kano is constitutional and compelling evidences were dropped
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 4:05pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:


His argument was simple APC had no exco because Buni wasn't the party chair as he couldn't hold two executive position at the same time. if so APC couldn't have sponsored Akeredolu since it's the national Secretariat that forwards candidates name but the supreme Court thought otherwise after agreeing to the his position on the role of national Secretariat. Nomination &Sponsorship are party functions an interloper can't litigate on. Qualification is different from nomination & sponsorship but APC is smuggled in 'Qualification' used it in place of membership, nomination & sponsorship. Una don take this heist too far

Pdp started this heist in bayelsa,apc are simply repaying them.
Sponsorship and nomination are all parts of qualification..for you to be qualified to contest ,you must be a party member and also sponsored by them.jegede ground was simply that gov buni held an executive post which is null and all acts therefore are void including aketi victory,it almost succeeded...they agreed with him partially but stated that gov buni should have been part of the suit in the spirit of Audi alterem partem.section 177 was never invoked
Section 177 of the constitution is all about qualifications.in subsection C,it talks about membership and sponsorship which is still part of qualifications.rhe apex court has been interpreting the membership in relation to the electoral act.lets see how they will interpret it in relation to the constitution,whether sub C is inferior to A,B and D.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by slivertongue: 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2023
garfield1:


No sir,obi matter was anchored on 77 EA and only register was tendered.kano is constitutional and compelling evidences were dropped

The party register is the most potent evidence of membership. Without valid membership, nomination & sponsorship are null and void. but the law has tied the hands of the judiciary from entertaining any prayer from Interlopers. But most cases are exploring 'qualification' to smuggle in membership, nomination & sponsorship so as to interloper. They are trying to use the back door to untie the hands of the judiciary. But law is clear to you and I.
Re: Differences Between The Kano Judgment And Peter Obi Membership Case At PEPT by garfield1: 4:23pm On Nov 20, 2023
slivertongue:


The party register is the most potent evidence of membership. Without valid membership, nomination & sponsorship are null and void. but the law has tied the hands of the judiciary from entertaining any prayer from Interlopers. But most cases are exploring 'qualification' to smuggle in membership, nomination & sponsorship so as to interloper. They are trying to use the back door to untie the hands of the judiciary. But law is clear to you and I.

I challenge you to quote a portion of the constitution that stops non party members from challenging section 177 c.the law imaginary as I think is clear to you not me.section 29-31 and 84 in the EA refers to pre election cases.nothing prevents a non party member from taking up a constitutional matter.
The court has stated severally esp in buhari vs yaradua that register isn't the only proof of membership even though register is the best.in Kano,apc went further to bring other evidences which shows Abba isn't an nnpp member legally.
Parties cannot hide flout their laws and the nation's laws and hide under the guise of internal affairs...section 177 is all about qualifications and it clearly mentioned sponsorship.are you better than the constitution?

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply)

Lagos: Opulence In The Midst Of Poverty (NYTimes) / Jonathan Is Working, Haters Are Talking! (New Images Are Added Daily) / ‘army Getting New Weapons To Combat B’ Haram’

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 54
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.