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Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Neddyogu(m): 7:23am On Nov 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Values? You say that as though your traditions put food on the table or something. undecided

Baba relax, marriage is for men not boys who run from responsibility. If bride price and the traditional rites is a problem, u have no business getting married.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 7:25am On Nov 21, 2023
Neddyogu:
β–  Baba relax, marriage is for men not boys who run from responsibility. If bride price and the traditional rites is a problem, u have no business getting married.
Again, no dey let other people mumu become your own mumu. undecided
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Neddyogu(m): 7:48am On Nov 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Again, no dey let other people mumu become your own mumu. undecided

If u like make one boy carry ur daughter off go dey cohabit with her, na u sabi. Bye
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by GenderMix: 9:22am On Nov 21, 2023
otomatic:


Did the registry not require a letter of consent from the bride's parents?

No. They didn't
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by otomatic(m): 9:30am On Nov 21, 2023
GenderMix:


No. They didn't

Alright.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Abrahamweb(m): 9:54am On Nov 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Ever wondered what would have happened if the man had refused to pay dowry on that woman and maybe equally refused to bury the woman in the end? Would her dead body rise back from the death? Would her people not have been eventually forced to bury her? undecided

Make una no dey let mumu of others translate into una own mumu abeg! undecided
He will not leave with his children and police cannot do anything.
If you have a matured person around you,ask them irrespective of the language.
I have seen this multiple times,I'm not talking out of my a$$
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by ViceGovernor: 11:45am On Nov 21, 2023
Op go and pay your wife's bride price grin
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Chiuzk: 12:50pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Nigerians go dey complain say money no dey... yet they live very wasteful lives. lipsrsealed
Lol...my brother, that was over 13 years, and things were cheaper then. But trust me, all our guests for those occasions were numbered. Our court wedding was just 6 guests, bride price were immediate families from me and hubby, not upto 20 guests. Church wedding, well to God be the glory...but not too many people as well.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by oluwaseyi0: 12:54pm On Nov 21, 2023
Abrahamweb:

He will not leave with his children and police cannot do anything.
If you have a matured person around you,ask them irrespective of the language.
I have seen this multiple times,I'm not talking out of my a$$

Which children? The one that are already living with him from birth?
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:28pm On Nov 21, 2023
BRATISLAVA:


You are a supposedly traditional person? You would war?

shocked shocked shocked shocked


Lol! I'm traditional in a lot of things even though I'm liberal on some. For example I strongly hold on to Uni education when all these young tech bloods believe a few hours in YouTube will make you a Senior in 6 months grin

I'm also weirdly traditional about food. For example Egusi soup has to be cooked with bitterleaf, plucked and washed by the person that will cook it. And grinding stone is 10,000 times better than blender πŸ™ˆπŸƒπŸΎπŸƒπŸΎπŸƒπŸΎ
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:32pm On Nov 21, 2023
Abrahamweb:

He will not leave with his children and police cannot do anything.
If you have a matured person around you,ask them irrespective of the language.
I have seen this multiple times,I'm not talking out of my a$$

Lol....nobi only. He will not leave with his children? And police will not do anything? Not only will police do something, the girl's family may even loose complete rights to the kids? Who wan collect the children? The girl's family? I laugh. You wan say the man nobi the father of the children because he no pay bride price? Our tradition is a joke and is only targeted at people without money and/or power. That people decide to follow tradition does not mean we are bound to tradition. In Ibo tradition, when a woman dies, she's buried in the man's village. In my tradition, she MUST be returned to her father's village. So which tradition go triumph if girl from my place marry Ibo man?

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Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:43pm On Nov 21, 2023
Bigsunny01:
Even u as an Africa man how will u feel if a man marry ur daughter without coming to do de necessary thing which is paying de dowry as tradition demand which we all meet here on earth

Court wedding is not mandatory but tradition is

Even de court will ask u if u have done de traditional

You guys should stop peddling this misinformation that the registry asks about traditional marriage. They don't. Nothing concerns the registry with all of that.

You will know the importance of what you refer to as "court wedding" when you want to emigrate. I'm waiting to hear of the embassy that will ask for proof of traditional wedding and paying bride price.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:46pm On Nov 21, 2023
Love800:
Tank u.
But since u will be given certificate for both, while bother to still do both?

Actually the church wedding is just a "useless" ceremony if you ask me. Whatever certificate the church gives is only important in the church. It is not acceptable anywhere else
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Love800(m): 1:50pm On Nov 21, 2023
Tanks so much
airsaylongcome:


Actually the church wedding is just a "useless" ceremony if you ask me. Whatever certificate the church gives is only important in the church. It is not acceptable anywhere else
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:51pm On Nov 21, 2023
Love800:
Kobo, goodevening.
I want to know, is it dat one certification is greater than the other?
Which one is more recongnized?

The church certificate is useless and not usable anywhere outside the church. It's just a ceremonial document. The law allows churches to register to be able to give government marriage certificates like the registry. It's a very convoluted process for the church to get approval for that because they will be issuing certificates on behalf of the government do any church that wants to do that is heavily scrutinised before their application is approved. I know House on the Rock in Lagos does that. So you don't need to go to a registry if you will be getting married there.

Whatever other certificate issued by their church in the Church's name and letter head is a decorative piece of paper in the eyes of the law
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:52pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Nah! They are both issued by the same court so no difference at all. undecided

Your church is a business sanctioned by the courts to officiate marriages by the authority of the courts. So, the certificates are the same. However, since your churches are business entities, you probably end up paying a lot more for the service offered thereβ€” dresses, ceremony, space, etc.β€” than you would if you simply went straight to the court instead. undecided

Not all churches are sanctioned to issue the registry certificates
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Love800(m): 1:53pm On Nov 21, 2023
Tanks so much for dis
airsaylongcome:


The church certificate is useless and not usable anywhere outside the church. It's just a ceremonial document. The law allows churches to register to be able to give government marriage certificates like the registry. It's a very convoluted process for the church to get approval for that because they will be issuing certificates on behalf of the government do any church that wants to do that is heavily scrutinised before their application is approved. I know House on the Rock in Lagos does that. So you don't need to go to a registry if you will be getting married there.

Whatever other certificate issued by their church in the Church's name and letter head is a decorative piece of paper in the eyes of the law
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 1:57pm On Nov 21, 2023
BRATISLAVA:


The kind of authoritative ignorance here is stifling. The same ignorance on threads where their fathers are dead and they want to evict their mothers from her home.

On this one ehn, it's pathetic. Tradition triumphs because the woman or her kids are not rich or powerful. Traditionally, when Olorogun Michael Ibru died, the Ibru family was supposed to take over his possessions. But they should go and try it with Cecilia Ibru na. If she will not bring out a helicopter gunship to their small knife fights. Even Maiden Ibru who is supposedly "not" Nigerian (she was born to Greek or Cypriot parents) the family could not do her anything. Our tradition is not different from our government, made to catch the poor. The rich make the traditions and live above it
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by bisqit: 2:43pm On Nov 21, 2023
mariahAngel:


You were (probably still are) irresponsible and not even ashamed of it.

Who did you expect to marry a lady you got pregnant? What nonsense!

I like how most of you will come on nairaland (especially) to lie to yourselves (that you don't have to marry a lady you impregnate), then are made to face reality in real world.
nwanyi oma, how much is your bride price? Make i wife u shap shap. I want to be enjoying your cake, dodo and puffpuff all alone
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Bigsunny01(m): 3:05pm On Nov 21, 2023
airsaylongcome:


You guys should stop peddling this misinformation that the registry asks about traditional marriage. They don't. Nothing concerns the registry with all of that.

You will know the importance of what you refer to as "court wedding" when you want to emigrate. I'm waiting to hear of the embassy that will ask for proof of traditional wedding and paying bride price.



Leave migrating aside

Traditional wedding is what is recognise in de bible

Court wedding is a political form of wedding

I'm just stating de fact about what is necessary here

Of cause anyone can go ahead and do de court wedding to pursue any carrier dat it requires of

U and i know how powerful de dowry is for marrying a woman
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 3:19pm On Nov 21, 2023
Bigsunny01:




Leave migrating aside

Traditional wedding is what is recognise in de bible

Court wedding is a political form of wedding

I'm just stating de fact about what is necessary here

Of cause anyone can go ahead and do de court wedding to pursue any carrier dat it requires of

U and i know how powerful de dowry is for marrying a woman

Dowry powerful? What power does it have?

And about being "recognized" by the Bible. Isn't that dowry part of the tradition of the occupants of the Bible lands at the time? There were other Biblical people of the time. The Greeks. The Egyptians. Even the Romans. Are there any Biblical documentation of them paying dowry? How about cultures that demand the woman to be the one to pay dowry? Are we saying that there will be no "power" in the dowry because it was paid by a woman?

We hold on to tradition as if tradition is infallible and sacrosanct. Tradition demands that an African female be "circumcised". That so-called circumcision involves complete removal of the equivalent of the "cap" for a female. Mental. Yet it is "tradition". Same tradition demands that when a King dies, people must be killed to be buried with the King as his servants in the after life. Mental.

I'm not saying those who want to continue the tradition of paying dowry should be stopped. Or that dowry paying is dated and should no longer be practised. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, if someone decides that they don't want to be part of that tradition, no human, living or dead has any right to chastise or criticise them. It's a choice to pay dowry and not an obligation.

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Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 3:20pm On Nov 21, 2023
Abrahamweb:

β–  He will not leave with his children and police cannot do anything.
β–  If you have a matured person around you,ask them irrespective of the language.
I have seen this multiple times,I'm not talking out of my a$$
Lol... forget that rubbish tale they feed una for there. If the law worked as it should, those people would be considered kidnappers if they attempted to keep the man's kids from him in any way. lipsrsealed

The one and only reason all those silly tales by moonlight you lot feed yourselves with persist has to do with people not knowing their right by law and the police remaining as it is. If not, those people would be in jail and it would be people like you calling for the book to be thrown at them for intruding in the union between the man and the woman undecided

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Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 3:21pm On Nov 21, 2023
airsaylongcome:

β–  Not all churches are sanctioned to issue the registry certificates
You are right. A church business would need.to meet set criteria in order to qualify. undecided
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 3:24pm On Nov 21, 2023
airsaylongcome:

Actually the church wedding is just a "useless" ceremony if you ask me. Whatever certificate the church gives is only important in the church. It is not acceptable anywhere else
What? So, why do they issue useless certificates when they can instead get authorization to register people for a legal certificate through government? Or am I mistaken in assuming such a program exists even in Nigeria? undecided
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by BRATISLAVA: 3:53pm On Nov 21, 2023
airsaylongcome:


Lol! I'm traditional in a lot of things even though I'm liberal on some. For example I strongly hold on to Uni education when all these young tech bloods believe a few hours in YouTube will make you a Senior in 6 months grin

I'm also weirdly traditional about food. For example Egusi soup has to be cooked with bitterleaf, plucked and washed by the person that will cook it. And grinding stone is 10,000 times better than blender πŸ™ˆπŸƒπŸΎπŸƒπŸΎπŸƒπŸΎ

Please, do as your last emoticons do. I don't believe it! I won't!

What am I reading? grin The day you turn traditional, full regalia, let us know!

As for the YouTube, I am traditional on that and that mostly. Lol.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 4:33pm On Nov 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
What? So, why do they issue useless certificates when they can instead get authorization to register people for a legal certificate through government? Or am I mistaken in assuming such a program exists even in Nigeria? undecided

It's a very rigorous process for government to authorise a church to issue those legal certs. Another set of hoops to remain in compliance to continue issuing the certificates. Many churches don't "have the power" for the government bureaucracy. Many may be rejected at the first hurdle
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 4:49pm On Nov 21, 2023
BRATISLAVA:


Please, do as your last emoticons do. I don't believe it! I won't!

What am I reading? grin The day you turn traditional, full regalia, let us know!

As for the YouTube, I am traditional on that and that mostly. Lol.

The bolded (or variants of it) is always the response I get when people find out that a "liberal", forward-looking "techie" says that grinding stone is better than a modern day blender. I grew up with my grandma and sort of became the professional "grinder" of all her grand children. Any day she was going to cook a big meal was a "sorrowful" day for me cos I go grind pepper tire. Hated it as a kid but guess what? As a "corper" I went to my PPA with a full complement of a complete grinding stone! Heck for the fun of it, I sold dry grounded pepper in school! Madness, I know. But that's what so-called tradition does. We hold on to antiquated beliefs because it is supposedly ingrained. As an adult sef, I still intermittently grind with grinding stone when I go to the village and want a meal cooked for me. The small children look at me in complete astonishment when I knuckle down to grind. So the "sting" in pepper is contained in the seeds. And mentally, I've told myself that even the most advanced blender cannot do justice to the seeds
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by BRATISLAVA: 6:50pm On Nov 21, 2023
airsaylongcome:


The bolded (or variants of it) is always the response I get when people find out that a "liberal", forward-looking "techie" says that grinding stone is better than a modern day blender. I grew up with my grandma and sort of became the professional "grinder" of all her grand children. Any day she was going to cook a big meal was a "sorrowful" day for me cos I go grind pepper tire. Hated it as a kid but guess what? As a "corper" I went to my PPA with a full complement of a complete grinding stone! Heck for the fun of it, I sold dry grounded pepper in school! Madness, I know. But that's what so-called tradition does. We hold on to antiquated beliefs because it is supposedly ingrained. As an adult sef, I still intermittently grind with grinding stone when I go to the village and want a meal cooked for me. The small children look at me in complete astonishment when I knuckle down to grind. So the "sting" in pepper is contained in the seeds. And mentally, I've told myself that even the most advanced blender cannot do justice to the seeds

Insightful.

I guess we have traditionalists of all nationalities who occupy modern roles. You sound more Asian than Nigerian what with the traditional methods of cooking.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by airsaylongcome: 7:58pm On Nov 21, 2023
BRATISLAVA:


Insightful.

I guess we have traditionalists of all nationalities who occupy modern roles. You sound more Asian than Nigerian what with the traditional methods of cooking.

Nigerian o. From South-South sef
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by patorial(m): 10:18pm On Nov 21, 2023
oluwaseyi0:


I don't get what you mean with this?
We were join in matrimony by the court official with authority, there is no existing marriage before the court wedding

There is vow exchange, exchange of ring, photography, little song and dance, fanfare etc all in the registry premises

That still does not make it a court wedding.
There's nothing like court wedding, what the government have is registry married whereby you register your married with the law.
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Kobojunkie: 10:36pm On Nov 21, 2023
patorial:
β–  That still does not make it a court wedding. There's nothing like court wedding, what the government have is registry married whereby you register your married with the law.
Court wedding refers to the ceremony where husband and wife say their vows in front of the official of the court at the registry. undecided

Registering your marriage without a court wedding is another thing entirely. undecided
Re: Court Marriage Without Paying Bride Price by Abrahamweb(m): 9:49am On Nov 22, 2023
oluwaseyi0:


Which children? The one that are already living with him from birth?
All these children ehn πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Even police will not answer you,if you come to report that issue.

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