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Kingsnairaland:
Some are held in the grave
Some by death
Some by hell or hades
Some by the sea or the beast in the sea

The people are those who died and are still going to die on judgment day both those who believe in Jesus and those who don't will be judged

Further

Hades Will Be Destroyed
Hades is not a permanent place. It will cease to exist at some future time.

The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them . . . Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:13,14).

Because Hades will someday be destroyed, it is not to be seen as the ultimate abode of the unbelieving soul

Jesus Has The Key
Jesus Himself has the keys to death and Hades.

I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. . . And I have the keys of Hades and Death (Revelation 1:18

He has conquered death and the grave.
Only Unbelieving people will not partake of eternal life

Hades is now a temporal place for the unbelieving dead. The righteous go to be with the Lord.


Hades looks more like a place, or a state of being. Jesus tells the folks of Capernaum that they “will go down to Hades” (Matthew 11:23
And he holds “the keys of death and Hades” (Revelation 1:18

Hades seems to indicate something dark or evil. Jesus says that “the gates of Hades will not overcome” the church (Matthew 16:18

When we die where do we go to?

Kingsnairaland:
Rev.20 - Bible, King James Version

13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
[14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.

When will people be judged? After death before going to hell or after hell delivered them up?
What condition are those in hell are?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy use God's undiluted word not the things mistranslated to threaten people into coming to church back then.

Now some believe those who don't believe in Jesus will be destroyed once and for all that means they won't exist I think this is what you mean

And others believe they will be in torment forever and ever understand the lake of fire

Well it does not matter the one you believe what count is that they will never have eternal life

So chose whom to believe in man made church or in Jesus our only true God.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy what did the Bible say is the MEANING of "Lake of Fire" Revelations 20:14

Lake of fire has no other interpretation it not a parable so lake of fire is lake of fire created for devil and his followers.

Kingsnairaland:
Any work in the new Testament Bible is actually only to believe in Jesus that all that is the only work Jesus commanded every one to do.....

Is to believe in Jesus.......... So working out your salvation means to believe in Jesus..... Then God will work in you and through you.



Under law we work for God, but under grace we do the work of God. The work of God is believing in Jesus and revealing his finished work in our broken world. Which kind of works do you think Paul was describing here in Philippians 2


Philippians 2:13
…for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for his good pleasure. (

If God is the one working, what part do we play? We are the ones who decide who gets to see his work.

Let explain further.............


Philippians 2:12
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling…

What does it mean to work out your salvation with fear and trembling?

Some say salvation is something to work for, that we must tip-toe fearfully through life lest we upset a wrathful God and find ourselves thrown into hell. It sounds spiritual, but it’s an anti-christ message that insults the Spirit of grace.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Jesus did it all! His work was perfectly perfect and completely complete. Because of his sacrifice you have been made perfect forever. As he is, so are you. Rest in him.

Work out your salvation…
But what does it mean to work out your own salvation? We have this idea that salvation equals forgiveness, but it is so much more than that.

Salvation is the word soteria which includes “deliverance, preservation, safety, and salvation.” It is a picture of a new life where all your needs – your need for forgiveness, deliverance, healing, provision – are supplied according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus (Ph 4:19).

On the cross Jesus provided for your complete salvation, healing, and deliverance. If your old way of life was characterized by poverty, curses and never enough, then your new life in Christ is one of abundance, blessings and more than enough.

But you might say, I don’t see it. I’m not healthy. I’m not prospering. I’m not overcoming.

Then work it out.

Don’t ask Jesus to come – he already did. Don’t ask him to provide – he’s provided already. He forgave you and healed you at the cross. In him you lack nothing (Eph 1:3).

The problem with asking God to do things he’s already done is that it makes us passive and requires no faith. Paul is not exhorting us to be idle but to work out in our own lives the implications of Christ’s powerful sacrifice.

How do you do it?

It begins by changing the way you think. Renew your mind. Look to the empty tomb, behold the glory of your risen King, and declare his goodness and grace over your situation. Grace and peace will be multiplied to you as you grow in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord (2 Pet 1:2).

…with fear and trembling

with fear and trembling
I used to think that this phrase was describing our proper state before God – that we should be afraid and tremble because even after a lifetime of service God might judge that we haven’t done enough for him. Well thank God for the cross! God isn’t looking at me but Jesus who is our perfect and acceptable sacrifice.

I no longer fear judgment because my sin has been punished and I am clothed with Christ.

In the passage above, Paul is not talking about judgment at all, but the outworking of our salvation. Surely this is a good thing, seeing the fruit of Gods work in our lives. Why are fear and trembling involved? Because trusting God can be scary.

I recently saw a video of a paralyzed lady who got out of her wheelchair and took her first steps in 23 years. She was trembling when she did it. I can only imagine what was going through her mind.

What if I fail? What if I fall on my face in front of hundreds of people?

Her wheelchair was her comfort zone, but in faith she faced her fears and received a miracle. The healing that Jesus provided for her 2000 years ago was apprehended by faith.

Faith is risky. Faith does not come naturally and is often accompanied by fear and trembling.

How do you think Abraham felt as he was about to plunge the knife into Isaac? We know that Abraham was fully persuaded that God would raise the dead – that’s faith – but he would not have been human if his hand had not trembled.

And do you think Rahab was in a joyful mood when she welcomed the spies of Israel into her home? Her faith meant a death sentence if the soldiers of Jericho discovered her treason.

Or what about Daniel in the lions’ den?

Or David facing the giant?

Or Moses standing up to Pharaoh? Scary moments!

Faith often involves putting something on the line. It might be your comfort, your reputation, your family, your funds, even your life – but something is risked or else it’s not faith.

And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. (1 Corinthians 2:1-3

Paul was a mighty man of faith, yet he came to Corinth in fear and in much trembling. In other words, he didn’t want to go. In fact, Paul was so fearful that God had to step in and say “do not be afraid” (Acts 18:9

There’s grace for us here. Paul is saying, “it’s not wrong to be fearful.” But in the presence of these feelings, work out your salvation anyway. Take the faith-risk, because you will be blessed if you do.



…and you will be blessed if you stay

A preacher of works will use Philippians 2:12 to motivate you to perform out of fear. But there is a big difference between works done under law and works done under grace.

Under law we work for God, but under grace we do the work of God. The work of God is believing in Jesus and revealing his finished work in our broken world. Which kind of works do you think Paul was describing here in Philippians 2

…for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for his good pleasure. (Philippians 2:13

If God is the one working, what part do we play? We are the ones who decide who gets to see his work.

God is God, but in his wisdom he has chosen to reveal himself through the faith of his saints. We preach with our mouths and his signs and wonders follow. We lay our hands on the sick and his healing is released.

Paul didn’t want to go to Corinth but he went anyway. Despite his fear and trembling he preached Christ crucified and the result was that many Corinthians believed and were baptized (Acts 18:8

Jonah didn’t want to preach in Nineveh but he did and an entire city was saved. Both Jonah and Paul took faith-risks despite their fears. As a result, the kingdom of God came to two cities and thousands of people were saved.

Fear and trembling are normal. What you do with fear is the thing. We can live afraid and see nothing change, or we can face our fears and see the kingdom come.

Working out our salvation means that at some point we’re going to have to get out of the boat and take a risk. God won’t punish us if we hold back – this has nothing to do with punishment.

But we will blessed, and the nations will be blessed through us, when we reveal Jesus.


Glory.

Hmmmm......😂 vain babbling? I hope you have seen that in your Bible too?

cornelboy:
When we die where do we go to?

There are three or more places where people stay temporary waiting for the great judgement of Jesus

Some will be sleeping in the grave some will be in paradise some will be in hades and various places like I mentioned before.

It is after the judgement that God will create a new heaven and new earth in the new earth there will be a new Jerusalem

The we will be permanently living in the new Jerusalem.

Kingsnairaland:
There are three or more places where people stay temporary waiting for the great judgement of Jesus

Some will be sleeping in the grave some will be in paradise some will be in hades and various places like I mentioned before.

It is after the judgement that God will create a new heaven and new earth in the new earth there will be a new Jerusalem

The we will be permanently living in the new Jerusalem.

You didn't complete the list. Some will be in the sea and some in death....🤡

Why would some (wicked people) be in hell/ Hades and others be put in other places?

Kingsnairaland:
There are three or more places where people stay temporary waiting for the great judgement of Jesus

Some will be sleeping in the grave some will be in paradise some will be in hades and various places like I mentioned before.

It is after the judgement that God will create a new heaven and new earth in the new earth there will be a new Jerusalem

The we will be permanently living in the new Jerusalem.

You didn't complete the list. Some will be in the sea and some in death....🤡

Why would some (wicked people) be in hell/ Hades and others be put in other places?
Is hell a place of suffering, is grave a place of suffering, is sea a place of suffering?

cornelboy:
When will people be judged? After death before going to hell or after hell delivered them up?
What condition are those in hell are?

When Jesus comes he will give everyone a new body called spiritual body then everyone will be judged

After it then everyone will receive his reward according whom they believe those are who believe in Jesus will have eternal life and those who don't will partake of devils reward

Those in hell now are in a torment condition
.

Lake of fire is second death that is the real spiritual death.

cornelboy:
You didn't complete the list. Some will be in the sea and some in death....🤡

Why would some (wicked people) be in hell/ Hades and others be put in other places?
Is hell a place of suffering, is grave a place of suffering, is sea a place of suffering?

First I completed it by adding....... and various places like I mentioned before.......

It does not matter if some are suffering and if some are not suffering

What count is whom ever refuse to believe in Jesus will not end well that is the gospel of Christ this is the most important thing to know.

Kingsnairaland:
First I completed it by adding....... and various places like I mentioned before.......

It does not matter if some are suffering and if some are not suffering

What count is whom ever refuse to believe in Jesus will not end well that is the gospel of Christ this is the most important thing to know.

is hell a place of suffering?

Kingsnairaland:
When Jesus comes he will give everyone a new body called spiritual body then everyone will be judged

After it then everyone will receive his reward according whom they believe those are who believe in Jesus will have eternal life and those who don't will partake of devils reward

Those in hell now are in a torment condition
.

Lake of fire is second death that is the real spiritual death.

Where Jesus said he would give everyone a spiritual body?
You knowledge in the Bible is F9

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus our only true God.

Jesus himself said the only true God differs from him:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.John 17:3 KJV

So Jesus is not the only true God, the only true God SENT! SENT!! SENT!!! Jesus!

Kingsnairaland:
Lake of fire has no other interpretation it not a parable so lake of fire is lake of fire created for devil and his followers.

You're a LIAR!

The Bible (God's word) said:

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.Revelation 20:14

If you don't understand something let us teach you!

cornelboy:
is hell a place of suffering?

Yes any thing that has to do with separation from God is suffering whether in hell or lake of fire.

cornelboy:
Where Jesus said he would give everyone a spiritual body?
You knowledge in the Bible is F9

I know you don't know Bible just read Cor 15 to see Jesus will give us spiritual body



1 Corinthians 15:44 ►

it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

New Living Translation
They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

Kingsnairaland:
I know you don't know Bible just read Cor 15 to see Jesus will give us spiritual body



1 Corinthians 15:44 ►

it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

New Living Translation
They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

Lol both the wicked and unrighteous ones too? Everyone?
Who are those that will be delivered up from sea, hell, death?

Kingsnairaland:
Yes any thing that has to do with separation from God is suffering whether in hell or lake of fire.

So according to the verse you quoted, God will send some to hell and send others to sea or death before the judgement??

So God will send hell to burn in the lake of fire, lol for what, so that it can torment too?

Are both death and hell a being that they will feel anything?

cornelboy:
So God will send hell to burn in the lake of fire, lol for what, so that it can torment too?
Are both death and hell a being that they will feel anything?

DEATH simply means out of existence that's the judgment God gave Adam in the beginning {Genesis 2:17; 3:19} but this death affected both the righteous and unrighteous descendants of Adam because they inherited it through Adam {Romans 5:12} that is the FIRST DEATH, the SECOND DEATH just like the first also means out of existence but there's a difference in this as it will only affect things God never planned in the beginning:

All the evildoers including Satan, demons and false prophets.
Conditions that God never planned in the beginning DEATH, GRAVE

The book of life symbolically means whatever is in God's plans from the beginning! Revelations 20:13-15

MaxInDHouse:
You're a LIAR!

The Bible (God's word) said:

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.Revelation 20:14

If you don't understand something let us teach you!

I know you don't understand it that why you say only one place that did not explain it to you lol

Below says any one who is victorious in Jesus will not be killed by the second death

Revelation 2:11 ►
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

New Living Translation
“Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. Whoever is victorious will not be harmed by the second death.

Below said those who Jesus raise first will not take part in the second death

Revelation 20:6 ►
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

New Living Translation
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. For them the second death holds no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him a thousand years.

Below now states those who refuse to believe in Jesus and who practice this evil things will partake of the second death

Revelation 21:8 ►
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

New Living Translation
“But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars—their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death

Kingsnairaland:
I know you don't understand it that why you say only one place that did not explain it to you lol

Below says any one who is victorious in Jesus will not be killed by the second death

Revelation 2:11 ►
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

Second death only affects evildoers that's what i said previously!

cornelboy:
So God will send hell to burn in the lake of fire, lol for what, so that it can torment too?

Are both death and hell a being that they will feel anything?

The lake of fire is a spiritual fire that can burn and hurt all evil spirits and evil people because evil people will have a new spiritual body

Human beings are also spiritual beings I have told you this thing many times

Only those who have the spirit of God can not be hurt by any thing so lake of fire can hurt even the devil in fact the devil will be bound for one thousand years at a certain point.

Lake of fire is a spiritual death for those who disobey God.

And after God destroys them in the lake of fire there will never be evil from that day to all eternity.

cornelboy:
So according to the verse you quoted, God will send some to hell and send others to sea or death before the judgement??

Now Bible shows that when Jesus rose from the dead he raised some people with him and took them to paradise those set of people will not be raised again because they have under gone their own resurrection

Before Jesus came there are people still bound in the sea and grave and hades

What you should know is that any one who refuses to accept Jesus will be found in the lake of fire at the end that is the main point

Only Jesus can give eternal life.

cornelboy:
Lol both the wicked and unrighteous ones too? Everyone?
Who are those that will be delivered up from sea, hell, death?

Your main focus should be to be among those who will partake of Jesus blessings only those who accept Jesus as their lord will be saved only Jesus can give eternal life everlasting life. This is what you should focus to get from the lamb of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Second death only affects evildoers that's what i said previously!

Max my man you keep changing from one point to another lol

Unfortunately the scriptures can not be broken it is eternal and the word of God lives forever

Bible shows those who think God can't be too severe to destroy people in the lake of fire should first consider the same thing he did in the past

How he destroyed the former world with water and many other people where killed by rain and only saved few people in the ark.

So don't think God's grace that is present today will last forever.

The heaven and the earth will be destroyed.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself said the only true God differs from him:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.John 17:3 KJV

So Jesus is not the only true God, the only true God SENT! SENT!! SENT!!! Jesus!

You can find Jesus calling himself God in the Gospel of John, or the last Gospel. Jesus says things like, "Before Abraham was, I am."

And, "I and the Father are one,"

and, "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father."

Bible said it actually pleased God almighty to dwell in Jesus

Glory.

MaxInDHouse:
Second death only affects evildoers that's what i said previously!

You said spirit of God can't talk hope you can see what the spirit is saying to the churches of God in various places

Revelation 2:11 ►
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

Kingsnairaland:
Your main focus should be to be among those who will partake of Jesus blessings only those who accept Jesus as their lord will be saved only Jesus can give eternal life everlasting life. This is what you should focus to get from the lamb of God.

Lol you wey never understand the Bible

Kingsnairaland:
Now Bible shows that when Jesus rose from the dead he raised some people with him and took them to paradise those set of people will not be raised again because they have under gone their own resurrection

Before Jesus came there are people still bound in the sea and grave and hades

What you should know is that any one who refuses to accept Jesus will be found in the lake of fire at the end that is the main point

Only Jesus can give eternal life.

You're saying there's nothing like hell fire right?

Kingsnairaland:
The lake of fire is a spiritual fire that can burn and hurt all evil spirits and evil people because evil people will have a new spiritual body

Human beings are also spiritual beings I have told you this thing many times

Only those who have the spirit of God can not be hurt by any thing so lake of fire can hurt even the devil in fact the devil will be bound for one thousand years at a certain point.

Lake of fire is a spiritual death for those who disobey God.

And after God destroys them in the lake of fire there will never be evil from that day to all eternity.

Hell and death are spirit?
Where did the bible say it's a spiritual fire?

Kingsnairaland:
Max my man you keep changing from one point to another lol Unfortunately the scriptures can not be broken it is eternal and the word of God lives forever Bible shows those who think God can't be too severe to destroy people in the lake of fire should first consider the same thing he did in the past
How he destroyed the former world with water and many other people where killed by rain and only saved few people in the ark.
So don't think God's grace that is present today will last forever. The heaven and the earth will be destroyed.

Of course God will utterly destroy badness for good but He won't keep evildoers anywhere as your religion taught you they're to be DESTROYED never to be alive anymore that's the truth.