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Kingsnairaland:
You can find Jesus calling himself God in the Gospel of John, or the last Gospel. Jesus says things like, "Before Abraham was, I am."
And, "I and the Father are one,"
and, "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father."
Bible said it actually pleased God almighty to dwell in Jesus
Glory.

Ọmọ none of those statements translate to Jesus being the Almighty God!

"Before Abraham i existed" means the person transformed into Jesus lived somewhere else before his earthly mission.
"I and the father are one" means i agree with whatever the father wishes.
"If you've seen me you've seen the father" means i came to represent the father.
"God dwells in Jesus" means all the attributes we need to know about God could be seen in the way Jesus lived his life.

None of these translate to Jesus being Almighty God!

Kingsnairaland:
You said spirit of God can't talk hope you can see what the spirit is saying to the churches of God in various places

Revelation 2:11 ►
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

The spirit of God talking means the purpose for which God's word (Bible) was composed so if anyone understands the Bible he or she is hearing the spirit of God not that the Holy Spirit is literally talking.

cornelboy:
Hell and death are spirit?
Where did the bible say it's a spiritual fire?

He is trying to put meaning to what his pastors told him even though he doesn't know how to explain that's why he keeps saying:
"accept Jesus as God"
He now realized that when it comes to Bible knowledge JWs knows far much more than his pastors.
Just imagine him saying evildoers will have spiritual bodies.
Abeg who wan give them?
He just want to console himself that the Bible isn't talking about total destruction of evildoers he keeps thinking they should be alive somewhere instead of dying because to him death shouldn't be the only punishment for sin! Romans 6:23

achorladey:
Madness ans insanities peddling as usual see receipt of your lies and manipulations below.....



And......




See one of your dead GOD speaking.....




compare with Kingsnairaland above



The key here is church organization. They have taught you how to lie and manipulate people so much you stated others are not organized or have religious organization like yours.


The same thing being organised that you say they(Christendom) are not now is what your dead GOD don't like or see as false teachings while what you say you that shows you being organised and the true religion now is what you lie and manipulate to say Christendom are not to advance the lies against others


Cc: Emusan, MightySparrow, Oteneaaron

Their GB are master hypnotizers.

cornelboy:
Lol you wey never understand the Bible

I completely understand the Bible and the things of the spirit that why you don't understand Bible because you don't know who the holy spirit is.

cornelboy:
You're saying there's nothing like hell fire right?

So all the hell fire that I have mentioned before you did not see it.

cornelboy:
Hell and death are spirit?
Where did the bible say it's a spiritual fire?

Lake of fire is different from hell fire.
That the first thing to know
Spiritual fire simply means some thing that humans can't see but it is real in the spiritual realm

God created heaven and earth means God created spiritual realm and physical realm.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course God will utterly destroy badness for good but He won't keep evildoers anywhere as your religion taught you they're to be DESTROYED never to be alive anymore that's the truth.

There are Bible principles that show what you say and another that says they will be in pain forever and ever

What count is stop thinking that that the second one can not happen

Because the first one which says evil will be no more is easy to accept to those who want to live any how life and think after all if I don't make it I will be destroyed and I will have an end

So God knows the heart of men they will want the first rule to be true so that they can live any how and perish once and not be in a state of torment.

So I will advise you to tread carefully and know that the suffering of those who reject Jesus as their lord will be great.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ none of those statements translate to Jesus being the Almighty God!

"Before Abraham i existed" means the person transformed into Jesus lived somewhere else before his earthly mission.
"I and the father are one" means i agree with whatever the father wishes.
"If you've seen me you've seen the father" means i came to represent the father.
"God dwells in Jesus" means all the attributes we need to know about God could be seen in the way Jesus lived his life.

None of these translate to Jesus being Almighty God!

You will always find a way to twist this things to fit into your doctrine but I will keep giving you more to bring you back to Jesus

God called me to declare his beautiful works


Here's more explicit direct deceleration on who Jesus is..

John 20:28 ►
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

New Living Translation
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed.

MaxInDHouse:
He is trying to put meaning to what his pastors told him even though he doesn't know how to explain that's why he keeps saying:
"accept Jesus as God"
He now realized that when it comes to Bible knowledge JWs knows far much more than his pastors.
Just imagine him saying evildoers will have spiritual bodies.
Abeg who wan give them?
He just want to console himself that the Bible isn't talking about total destruction of evildoers he keeps thinking they should be alive somewhere instead of dying because to him death shouldn't be the only punishment for sin! Romans 6:23

All human beings are the same we all are made the same way as God is we are made in his image and likeness we all have spirit

even if the person is a good person or bad person God is the God of all flesh including the devil God is the God of devil only difference is God is not the father of all flesh.

So

Just ask me to show you where Bible says evil people too will get their own spiritual body since you don't know where God put it in the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
The spirit of God talking means the purpose for which God's word (Bible) was composed so if anyone understands the Bible he or she is hearing the spirit of God not that the Holy Spirit is literally talking.

On this subject you will continue to twist it till you become condemned and I don't want you to be condemned because Jesus and the father said they won't forgive any one who speaks bad of the holy spirit

So I will not explain to you further on the holy spirit because I want you to be saved we can talk about other subjects so that you will not be destroyed

Now back to eternity and after life topics you need to humble yourself and I will show you things that you actually don't know.

Kingsnairaland:
So all the hell fire that I have mentioned before you did not see it.

Quote one place where "hell fire" in mentioned in the Bible

Kingsnairaland:
So all the hell fire that I have mentioned before you did not see it.

Some will go to hell and some will go to the sea?

cornelboy:
Quote one place where "hell fire" in mentioned in the Bible

Matthew 5:29-30
If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

Matthew 18:9
Verse Concepts
If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

Matthew 5:29
Verse Concepts
If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

Matthew 10:28
Verse Concepts
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 5:22
Verse Concepts
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Kingsnairaland:
What count is stop thinking that that the second one can not happen

It can never ever be because the purpose for which God created humans will be nullified.

He created humans in His image and want us to live forever not suffer forever, the path Adam took will eventually lead to untold suffering that's why God said Adam will cease to exist after all the pains he will go through!

Kingsnairaland:
On this subject you will continue to twist it till you become condemned and I don't want you to be condemned because Jesus and the father said they won't forgive any one who speaks bad of the holy spirit
So I will not explain to you further on the holy spirit because I want you to be saved we can talk about other subjects so that you will not be destroyed Now back to eternity and after life topics you need to humble yourself and I will show you things that you actually don't know.

Where did God and Jesus told you that someone is speaking bad of what he or she can't see?

Guy if you're referring to what Jesus said at Matthew 12:31-32 you're the one who needs to wake up because the one and only evidence of God's Holy Spirit is found in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses!

cornelboy:
Some will go to hell and some will go to the sea?

If you read Bible well you will see they did not go to the sea rather they died in the sea and the beast of the sea or the sea held them inside

Grave too hold some people and hades and hell too.... So from Genesis you can see many people have died in the sea and in revelation sea represents some thing which is a different topic too.

MaxInDHouse:
It can never ever be because the purpose for which God created humans will be nullified.

He created humans in His image and want us to live forever not suffer forever, the path Adam took will eventually lead to untold suffering that's why God said Adam will cease to exist after all the pains he will go through!

We are like God our spirit is like his so stop your dream from thinking you can cease to exist lol..

Bible said just like Adam brought death Jesus will bring life to all... Everyone will be made alive again by Jesus and given a new body that can live both on earth and in heaven this new body is called spiritual body

But some new body will have eternal life while some Wil have eternal death in lake of fire.



1 Corinthians 15:21-22
King James Version (KJV)

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

MaxInDHouse:
Where did God and Jesus told you that someone is speaking bad of what he or she can't see?

Guy if you're referring to what Jesus said at Matthew 12:31-32 you're the one who needs to wake up because the one and only evidence of God's Holy Spirit is found in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses!

That why you don't understand Bible because you think it is a physical organization an organization that don't know Bible that don't know Jesus that refuse to accept Jesus. It a long thing one day you will wish you had accepted Jesus rather than organization.

Kingsnairaland:
We are like God our spirit is like his so stop your dream from thinking you can cease to exist lol.. Bible said just like Adam brought death Jesus will bring life to all... Everyone will be made alive again by Jesus and given a new body that can live both on earth and in heaven this new body is called spiritual body
But some new body will have eternal life while some Wil have eternal death in lake of fire.
1 Corinthians 15:21-22
King James Version (KJV)
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

So Adam didn't die for real shey?

Kingsnairaland:
That why you don't understand Bible because you think it is a physical organization an organization that don't know Bible that don't know Jesus that refuse to accept Jesus. It a long thing one day you will wish you had accepted Jesus rather than organization.

Jesus himself said there's no Jesus without an organization!

Kingsnairaland:
If you read Bible well you will see they did not go to the sea rather they died in the sea and the beast of the sea or the sea held them inside

Grave too hold some people and hades and hell too.... So from Genesis you can see many people have died in the sea and in revelation sea represents some thing which is a different topic too.

Oh the beast of the sea held them inside. New one! So God was unable to send them to hell
Why would God be partial by sending some to "hell fire" and leave some at sea

Those that were burned alive nko? The beast of fire took them

Kingsnairaland:
Matthew 5:29-30
If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell.

Matthew 18:9
Verse Concepts
If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.

Matthew 5:29
Verse Concepts
If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

Matthew 10:28
Verse Concepts
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 5:22
Verse Concepts
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Lol where are the "fires" I'm only seeing "hell" 😶😶


The "hell" mentioned in the above verses you brought is translated to "Gehenna". How did would they translate Gehenna to hell and also translate "Hades" to hell?

MaxInDHouse:
So Adam didn't die for real shey?

Adam didn't die o 😂😂😂

cornelboy:
Adam didn't die o 😂😂😂

Ọmọ nah wah for this guy o i wonder which side he is whether:

“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Genesis 2:17

Or

“You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:4

Thank God i know the difference between the two speakers!

MaxInDHouse:
So Adam didn't die for real shey?

Adam died the same way all men die.

So where did I say Adam did not die.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself said there's no Jesus without an organization!

That is not in any place in the bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ nah wah for this guy o i wonder which side he is whether:

“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Genesis 2:17

Or

“You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:4

Thank God i know the difference between the two speakers!

Na satan this guy believe no be God 😂😂😂

cornelboy:
Oh the beast of the sea held them inside. New one! So God was unable to send them to hell
Why would God be partial by sending some to "hell fire" and leave some at sea

Those that were burned alive nko? The beast of fire took them

Revelation 13:1 ►
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea.

New Living Translation
Then I saw a beast rising up out of the sea.


There other fallen angels that are bound with darkness this moment while other fallen angels are roaming on earth freely...

there are men in the bible that did not see or taste death

You can't question God when he does things that you don't understand..

cornelboy:
Lol where are the "fires" I'm only seeing "hell" 😶😶


The "hell" mentioned in the above verses you brought is translated to "Gehenna". How did would they translate Gehenna to hell and also translate "Hades" to hell?

What you saw was fiery hell...

Research on what it means since you don't know it same as hell fire

Then watch the Rich man in hades or hell complaining of flames.

Luke 16

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Kingsnairaland:
What you saw was fiery hell...

Research on what it means since you don't know it same as hell fire

Then watch the Rich man in hades or hell complaining of flames.

Luke 16

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Was that a real event or a parable

Kingsnairaland:
Revelation 13:1 ►
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea.

New Living Translation
Then I saw a beast rising up out of the sea.


There other fallen angels that are bound with darkness this moment while other fallen angels are roaming on earth freely...

there are men in the bible that did not see or taste death

You can't question God when he does things that you don't understand..

But you can explain what you can't understand to someone else