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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by seunayantokun(m): 5:27pm On Dec 03, 2023
Fortune109:
😊

Even though I'm a mix (Benin mother, Lagos/Yoruba Father)...

Hope you guys understand that Benin was an expansionist Empire like Oyo Empire, British Empire before...and they (Benin) were once in charge of Lagos by Conquest...that doesn't mean they own Lagos alright!



Lagos was/is a Yoruba land!

That's right. Conquest and exacting tributes do not mean you founded the place.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by sangresan(m): 5:29pm On Dec 03, 2023
Supremos:
Eko ROW!: Benin people ‘owned’ Lagos, Awori paid royalties to them—Erelu Abiola Dosunmu



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/12/eko-row-benin-people-owned-lagos-awori-paid-royalties-to-them-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/?s=09

This mugu was deposed as a Lagos chief and she has been going around saying rubbish. Is she a historian? NO.

Which of your forefathers told you this fake stories? Where were they published?

People can differentiate between the establishment of a dynasty and the establishment of a town.

It's just like saying that Uthman Dan Fodio founded Sokoto or that Alimi founded Ilorin.

In the landmark case involving the Eleko (Lagos monarch), it was decided by the Privy Council in London that Lagos lands were owned by the white cap chiefs who were Aworis. How come? Why can't the journalists ask Erelu Dusumu and the Oba of Benin about this landmark case?

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Nwanna2588: 5:30pm On Dec 03, 2023
In the intricate tapestry of historical narratives, a parallel discourse emerges, akin to the complex interplay witnessed in the Niger Delta between the minority factions of Itsekiri and Ijaw. Within this narrative, a curious assertion surfaces, suggesting that the Igbo populace once found themselves ensconced in the role of subservience to these minorities. The perplexity deepens as one contemplates the improbable scenario of a numerical minority audaciously asserting dominance over a numerical majority.

The perusal of historical annals is further enriched by the extension of this phenomenon to the Yoruba-Bini dynamic. The Bini, a majority in the expansive terrain of Edo state, endeavouring to wield influence disproportionate to their demographic standing, particularly in comparison to the vast Yoruba-dominant territories of the southwest. The intellectual contortion required to fathom such an inversion of numerical prowess raises the spectre of incredulity.

As the veracity of these historical reverberations unfolds, one is compelled to reflect upon the broader implications and echoes of this historical dissonance. The assertion that minorities, in defiance of numerical logic, held sway over majorities, reaping the bountiful harvest of royalties, elicits a profound sense of wonderment. It is a saga where the conventional norms of dominance and subjugation seem to undergo a perplexing metamorphosis, leaving observers in a state of perpetual awe.

In the crucible of historical scrutiny, echoes of Itsekiri and Ijaw accusations resound, claiming the Igbo as erstwhile subjects of servitude. This thematic recurrence, exemplified by the digital diatribe of Asari Dokubo, prompts a collective yearning for resolution and clarity. Satiating this intellectual thirst requires a meticulous untangling of historical threads, disentangling fact from conjecture.

However, amidst the cacophony of historical grievances, a salient truth emerges. The current contours of the Nigerian landscape owe their existence to the collaborative efforts of the majority triad: Hausas, Igbos, and Yorubas. It is their collective synergy that has elevated Nigeria to a status transcending mere geographical boundaries, relegating other entities to the periphery in a manner analogous to Benin Republic, Ghana, and their ilk.

As the unfolding chapters of history beckon, the trajectory of this intricate saga remains uncertain. The prism of time may illuminate hitherto obscured facets, allowing for a more nuanced comprehension of the dynamics that have shaped the Nigerian narrative. In the interim, we stand poised on the precipice of revelation, awaiting the revelation of truths veiled by the sands of time.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by sangresan(m): 5:30pm On Dec 03, 2023
Supremos:
Eko ROW!: Benin people ‘owned’ Lagos, Awori paid royalties to them—Erelu Abiola Dosunmu



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/12/eko-row-benin-people-owned-lagos-awori-paid-royalties-to-them-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/?s=09

This mugu was deposed as a Lagos chief and she has been going around saying rubbish. Is she a historian? NO.

Which of your forefathers told you this fake stories? Where were they published?

People can't differentiate between the establishment of a dynasty and the establishment of a town.

It's just like saying that Uthman Dan Fodio founded Sokoto or that Alimi founded Ilorin.

In the landmark case involving the Eleko (Lagos monarch), it was decided by the Privy Council in London that Lagos lands were owned by the white cap chiefs who were Aworis. How come? Why can't the journalists ask Erelu Dusumu and the Oba of Benin about this landmark case?

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Abufo: 5:32pm On Dec 03, 2023
Supremos:


It seems a lot of people knows the truth

Even as an Igbo kid residing at Tom Jones area of Lagos Island in the 1970s....it struck me that there were similarities between the main Eyo masqurades that usually came out at the tail end of the eyo festivities.......a lot of the lagos princes were usually dressed like the Bini royalty and the swords they carried was exactly like that famous bini broad swords!

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth03: 5:32pm On Dec 03, 2023
Putinofrussia:


Yoruba own Oba of Benin ....Ogiamien of Benin..



https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/amp



Yorubafather:






Staled propaganda ..... only gullible ones can even read that trash from Oluyole




It was even Ife that founded Igodomigodo and the Ogiso dynasty whose Crown Prince they. Claimed got lost

It was Obagodo of Ile Ife who founded Benin and the Ogiso Dynasty

That was why when the Steaming Hot Amala hit the Fan it was Ile Ife they sent to for urgent Royal Reinforcement

That was when Prince Oranmiyan was sent to sort out the mess

Obagodo is Yoruba for Oba of Igodo

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by jaxxy(m): 5:34pm On Dec 03, 2023
Iamgrey5:
What about the Ishekiri kingdom founded 200 years before the first oba of Lagos?

How come they can't use that as their port?

if there are vacant lands and ports why will they go into a conflict for one when they can't discover a vacant one elsewhere which was more valuable to them?

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Pakute: 5:35pm On Dec 03, 2023
Kukutenla:

You're never associated with common sense
Pity
I guess you discovered River Niger
Illiterate

so, our ancestor never knew of a river flowing at their own backyard?, just because they couldn't read and write, while the man with the pen had to write what pleases him. Infact, na dem discover cassava dem dey chop, you fat daunce.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Iamgrey5(m): 5:36pm On Dec 03, 2023
jaxxy:


if there are vacant lands and ports why will they go into a conflict for one when they can't discover a vacant one elsewhere which was more valuable to them?
I thought Erelu ( which is a title of Yorubas by the way) said Bini is landlocked.

So how come Bini flew so many kingdom to find a tiny kingdom in a far away place?

Abi you think people travel by buses then ?

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Putinofrussia: 5:37pm On Dec 03, 2023
Yorubafather:






You lied here, large part of Lagos was founded by the Great Binis , I'm glad every Nigerians is aware of the truth .... no amount of Propaganda can change it.
Carry your 1960 yansh comot here,Osu. grin
Let real people discuss jooor.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by shegoon: 5:39pm On Dec 03, 2023
Now i believe the say "success has many friends". Why lagos? Why not ogun, Ekiti, oyo or osun?
Supremos:
Eko ROW!: Benin people ‘owned’ Lagos, Awori paid royalties to them—Erelu Abiola Dosunmu



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/12/eko-row-benin-people-owned-lagos-awori-paid-royalties-to-them-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/?s=09

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Kukutenla: 5:40pm On Dec 03, 2023
Pakute:

so, our ancestor never knew of a river flowing at their own backyard?, just because they couldn't read and write, while the man with the pen had to write what pleases him. Infact, na dem discover cassava dem dey chop, you fat daunce.

That's why I said you're an illiterate
Did your ancestors know the source and sink of river Niger?
Were they aware of how long and deep it is?
Did they know its tributaries and how it flows.
That's what it is meant by discovery of river Niger. Illiterate

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by grandstar(m): 5:41pm On Dec 03, 2023
The truth be said, if Lagos was founded by the Benins, Yoruba's would be the first to admit. There is no shame there.

It is accepted that the Benin founded Eko, which probably means Isale Eko of today. But it is not the entire Lagos state

The lack of written history is the root of the problem.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by fof1: 5:42pm On Dec 03, 2023
Never4getU:


She herself not a bonafide Lagosian. U can't distort our history or rewrite it for us. The dosumus aren't aboriginals of Lagos.

The Dosumus aren't even Awori their forefathers are Benins reason she's trying to steal Lagos for her linage but we refused to accept this as our history is clear and in sooner time we must make available to the general public of our origin to Lagos and the Benins are obviously delusional

You are Obviously Confused and lacking the Nolez of ur Own History...Pls Go and Learn ur Past,Present and Future before Commenting on What you know Nothing about,Pls. The Erelu has more Facts than your Claims.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 5:43pm On Dec 03, 2023
The current owners of Lagos from Eastern Region are not even talking...


You can't be a tenant and be claiming landlords
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by sangresan(m): 5:43pm On Dec 03, 2023
This is the same mugu deceiving some ignorant folks about her family history.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Kukutenla: 5:44pm On Dec 03, 2023
abbey621:


You mean we speak English before Yoruba? You're mental grin grin grin. Focus on the point made, if Yorubas met Bini, is it not proper that a large percentage of Yorubas in Lagos would speak Bini language as well?
Dummy. I meant that the British who met Yorubas in Oyo should be speaking Yoruba right now. What we're discussing is acculturation. It's not set in stone. The Romans colonised so many lands but deliberately did not allow most areas they colonised to learn their language as a distinction between rulers and the ruled.
The British and French on the other hand chose to impose their language on their colonies.
You can't use that to decide who met who or when

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Kavod: 5:45pm On Dec 03, 2023
WorldRichest:
Let Oba of Benin come and collect Tax nah, make MC Oluomo and his boys catch him
hmmmn.. Do you know how old benin kingdom is? You think the British named it ancient for no reason?... Benin had walls twice the size of the great china walls, Then you cant trade from the south it had to reach lagos port. So most bini's settled there as facilitators of trade..... long before there was any yoruba there... Hence you go to the slums of lagos i mean the riverine sides and its mostly benin people who can trace their origin. Dude you would be amazed discussing with few people from the slums. Them de pack history as f say na gold

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Kukutenla: 5:49pm On Dec 03, 2023
Iamgrey5:
Maybe reading is your problem

I said it's only ever the case when the visitors are your conquerors.

Just like British conquered all the kingdoms in Nigeria and imposed their language by teaching us.

On the other hand, only Lagos goes against logic.
Oga your point no follow. All this Yoruba consciousness is built on falsehood. If the Lagos ruling house are saying they are Bini why are you guys dragging that with them most especially when you're not Lagos indigenes?

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by GoodGovernance: 5:49pm On Dec 03, 2023
Iamgrey5:
For avoidance of doubt

Please check the map properly, one will see that when coming from Bini through the sea one will have to pass through Epe and Ibeju before getting to Lagos island and Eti-osa.

There is not a single land in Eti-osa that belongs to any Bini decendants.

So how on earth can you be the finding fathers of a place and those that came to meet you on your land now have more land than you?

How come you also speak their language not the other way round.

History has it that people who journed into a strange land often assimilate the language of their host, except the people coming in are the conquerors

So why is Lagos an exception.

Apapa the was under the control of the Oyo empire oh. See link below

https://wappp.org/our_publications/nigeria-the-apapa-gridlock-challenges-and-solution/

You are confused.

Is Apapa in Lagos Island?
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by itsene: 5:51pm On Dec 03, 2023
Iamgrey5:
For avoidance of doubt

Please check the map properly, one will see that when coming from Bini through the sea one will have to pass through Epe and Ibeju before getting to Lagos island and Eti-osa.

There is not a single land in Eti-osa that belongs to any Bini decendants.

So how on earth can you be the finding fathers of a place and those that came to meet you on your land now have more land than you?

How come you also speak their language not the other way round.

History has it that people who journed into a strange land often assimilate the language of their host, except the people coming in are the conquerors

So why is Lagos an exception.

Apapa the was under the control of the Oyo empire oh. See link below

https://wappp.org/our_publications/nigeria-the-apapa-gridlock-challenges-and-solution/
You are struggling to stay afloat, threading water. You intentionally refuse to see higher reason. What a shame.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Christistruth03: 5:51pm On Dec 03, 2023
GoodGovernance:


You are confused.

Is Apapa in Lagos Island?



This is the Map of Oba of Lagos Isale Eko

Even Ikoyi on Lagos Island is not part of His Domain

Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Iamgrey5(m): 6:01pm On Dec 03, 2023
GoodGovernance:


You are confused.

Is Apapa in Lagos Island?
Apapa is beside Lagos island sir

And the port area in Lagos since 15 century.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by ablejesus26(m): 6:02pm On Dec 03, 2023
sreamsense:
Ipob/Igbos/biafran fabricated story sponsored on vanguard. Is it today fabrications and lies are reported and sponsored on daily papers? Tommorow now if you investigate further, it will end up being debunked. Is it because omokiri has proved beyond reasonable doubt that yorubas brought out Igbos from jungle to civilization in almost every aspect of humanity like education, religion, language development etc.?

Even oba of Benin that said it has forgotten about the issues, but some enbittered igbos kept on sponsoring fake articles in their usual known antics. Why not allow this matter to rest since it is too late to reverse the history to make Benin or Igbos to rule Lagos? So Igbos should let the matter rest because they carry the matter on their heads even more than the oba that said it

Mention the names of Igbos that have carried it on the head to prove that wailing and shouting Igbo yooo, Igbo aaaghh is not the reason your god created you to do all the days of your life.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 6:02pm On Dec 03, 2023
WorldRichest:
Let Oba of Benin come and collect Tax nah, make MC Oluomo and his boys catch him

Na you suppose catch am

Your ancestors said worse when the Benin military was about to take lagos

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Iamgrey5(m): 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2023
Kukutenla:

Oga your point no follow. All this Yoruba consciousness is built on falsehood. If the Lagos ruling house are saying they are Bini why are you guys dragging that with them most especially when you're not Lagos indigenes?
Bro seems you have problem reading.

Lagos ruling house can claim to be wherever they come from, but they can't claim they founded Lagos just like Fulanis can't claim they founded Kano.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Omookunnimi(m): 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2023
But Edo no be Lagos. Why this country controversy.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by 43Ronin: 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2023
I think its just plain stupidity to say Beni originated from yoruba race. For fùck sake the founder of yorubaland is odu-du-uwa is a fúcking beni name. yorubas should stop trying to intimidate benis.

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by Iamgrey5(m): 6:04pm On Dec 03, 2023
itsene:

You are struggling to stay afloat, threading water. You intentionally refuse to see higher reason. What a shame.
You just put words together without countering a single point I raised.
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by tollyboy5(m): 6:04pm On Dec 03, 2023
Stephen0mozzy:
grin



Hehe....but like she said. Everything is just ceremonial and courtesies now.

Oba gha to kpere. Isee. Oba n'ogidigan!
Yes but connection and truth remains that they're bini. Just like Epe people are from ijebu ode
Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by tollyboy5(m): 6:04pm On Dec 03, 2023
WorldRichest:
Let Oba of Benin come and collect Tax nah, make MC Oluomo and his boys catch him
Why are you angry?

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Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by itsene: 6:07pm On Dec 03, 2023
Putinofrussia:

Oba Eweka 1 of Benin and all subsequent Obas of Benin were Yoruba.
The first king of Lagos was a Yoruba man from Benin who met the Aworis who were also Yorubas.

History cannot be twisted because you want to cheat the Ogiamien family who fortunately,has evidence with them.

Yoruba founded a part of Benin that uses Oba....Ogiamien of Benin..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/amp





[b]High Chief Esotericist Monday Wehere, JP explained further: “What is today known as Benin Kingdom started as Igodomigodo nine centuries ago. It was founded by Ogiso Igodo and it existed for 300 years before King Orominyan of Ife invaded Benin. During that invasion, Orominyan fought without any success. Before then, Orominyan came to Benin with a strategy. He brought a large number of Yoruba men into Benin long before the proper expedition. These men went into relationships with our daughters who started having children for them. By the time Orominyan came to attack Benin in 11th Century, the number of the Yoruba-born children was high. In spite of this, however, he still failed in his attack.

When Orominyan was returning to Ile-Ife without achieving his aim, as one of the strategies they invented, he deliberately impregnated a princess, the daughter of an “Enigie” – duke or king in Benin under the then Ogiso. The princess’ name was Elimide. He left her behind before returning to Ife. It was Princess Elimide that gave birth to the first Oba of Benin, Oba Eweka 1, who, after becoming an adult, was invited back to Ile-Ife, alongside other children they had secretly produced through our daughters without our knowing their game-plan.

Up till today, they still live in a place called Yoruba Quarters in Benin City. It was at that Ile-Ife meeting, which had Eweka in attendance that these children were told the reasons they were given birth to in Benin, that it was Oba Orominyan’s desire to use them to overthrow the then Ogiso Erebo and his dynasty, which was then known as Igodomigodo. They were all made to swear to an oath never to betray Eweka, who was to become the Oba of Benin, if they eventually succeeded.

Expectedly, this particular war was protracted as many people died on both sides. The carnage was much. It was, however, difficult for the then Ogiso to use extra force, as he felt his grandchildren were being used in the war. He kept saying the children being used by the Oba to prosecute his war were children of Benin daughters, even though they were now supporting their father’s side to fight the Ogiso.

It was at this point a truce was called. As there were no victor and no vanquished, Ogiso Erebo was told there was no way this large number of children born by Benin women for Yoruba men could be repatriated, since they had already been integrated into the heart of Igodomigodo. He was told the only way to maintain peace was for him to divide Igodomigodo into two kingdoms. Let the oba take a part, while he would hold on to the other part.


So idiotic.
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