It's not the end of the world you hear. Keep praying, everything will be alright

Ok

Take her for deliverance, believed she is possessed

you dont know the value of something precious until you lose it, na because you still get mother now, a tym will come, you will be looking for who to call mother,you wont see, come and ask me, bro, here is the last place to bring your momma's matter

nairalanda1:
This is a serious matter indeed.

The major complication is her mental illness. The 'problem' with mental illness is that the sufferer has to first know that he or she is not well, which would enable them to take their medication properly..and most times many of them don't know they are sick...they think they are all right.

I don't have much advise to give you. I think you should get a househelp for her...but lord knows, that househelp is going to walk off the job in minutes because of your mother's issues.

Anyway, wiser heads should be able to give better advice. For now, I wish you God's strength and wisdom in this matter in triple portion.


P.S

[b], this topic deserves front page please man.

nairalanda1:
This is a serious matter indeed.

The major complication is her mental illness. The 'problem' with mental illness is that the sufferer has to first know that he or she is not well, which would enable them to take their medication properly..and most times many of them don't know they are sick...they think they are all right.

I don't have much advise to give you. I think you should get a househelp for her...but lord knows, that househelp is going to walk off the job in minutes because of your mother's issues.

Anyway, wiser heads should be able to give better advice. For now, I wish you God's strength and wisdom in this matter in triple portion.


P.S

nlfpmod, this topic deserves front page please man.

Is she lightskin sir?(no ooofencse )

She is not lazy, she is clinically depressed

Oga she is your mother and from what you described she is having some health issues so you complaing about her is not right to me. Don't you know that the death of your father her husband has affected her? Do all you can to care for her no matter how difficult the situation seems now. So I will advice you to please calm down and understand with her. Life is much more than material possessions. Do your best and let God handle the rest pls

I am a Psychiatrist in Europe and it's quite obvious which you already know there is a mental disorder.

You should not blame her,do not stigmatise her and the condition.She needs empathy and good care from complement if Psychiatrist,nurses and support workers.
She definitely needs her medication reviewed, get someone to supervise her medication, help her with her meals and other activities.

If she were abroad,she might need to live in a supported accommodation if the family cannot provide 24 hours care for her.

So please,kindly arrange urgent review and get psychosocial support in addition to her medication. Desist from blaming her and show her love.

The long developmental milestone you gave indicated that she had parental.support to thrive.There might be other issues I can't mention here because it's a public forum and for her dignity.

WriterNiiig:
Look how everyone is telling Op to be gentle with her and take her for treatments. Some are even blaming OP.

If it was his father now you'll hear all manners of insults thrown at the poor man. Some might even suggest that they abandon him.

Evil people. I spit on all of you.

The world is designed to favour women and kill me according to someone who made this not too long ago

oladitisd:
you dont know the value of something precious until you lose it, na because you still get mother now, a tym will come, you will be looking for who to call mother,you wont see, come and ask me, bro, here is the last place to bring your momma's matter

Hypocrite. If na him father him dey talk about now people like you for don dey call am names.

She's born for soft life

The only irony is that she isn't business inclined.ppl like her make money to pay for soft life.
Your Dad(who could manage/enable her ) has left her which could have affected her mental health.

WriterNiiig:
Look how everyone is telling Op to be gentle with her and take her for treatments. Some are even blaming OP.

If it was his father now you'll hear all manners of insults thrown at the poor man. Some might even suggest that they abandon him.

Evil people. I spit on all of you.

Thank you. Don't mind all these hypocrites here. Word on marble.

Don't assume she's deliberately lazy, people might look fit on the outside but battling a lot on the inside...some of us also have weak bodies ... It takes a lot to talk to the body for it to rise to do anything and if it's not important to us , we won't move ... Take her to the hospital yearly for general body check up ....

From your narrations, she might not want to stay with you. the next option is to get a house help, let the payment be above the average in the area. tutor the househelp on what to expect and that you will give an increasement after a yaer and an annual bonus. this is to keep them longer with her.She is your mother and your responsibility, you cannot shy away from that. you have no choice than to do all the needful before her appointed time. Also make it a routine to visit her often, let your sisters too pay her periodical visits.

I’ll admit it was TLDR everything.
The Issue is Mental Illness.
You have been through a lot and how your mum had 5 kids with her underlying issue must be praised.
That said
1. She needs an intervention.

You need to go to the courts and get Power of Attorney. Where by you will be in charge of all monies coming to her. You give her a weekly stipend and ask for receipt. If she does well you make it every 2 weeks. This way you know where she is spending the money.

2. You need to get paid help - flushing toilet and cleaning up after herself , washing dishes , make up etc. you have been trying to do all yourself which is draining.

3. She will need medication- the hospital can help with that.

4. I hope you are getting the help and assistance from your wife as well. Do not stress yourself or rather over extend yourself.

Good luck

Babangidapikin:
Don't assume she's deliberately lazy, people might look fit on the outside but battling a lot on the inside...some of us also have weak bodies ... It takes a lot to talk to the body for it to rise to do anything and if it's not important to us , we won't move ... Take her to the hospital yearly for general body check up ....

But if na him father now all of Una for don give am deatbeat or a lazy man even drunk. Hypocrites.

This is a cross you have to carry until her demise unfortunately, you no fit teach old dog new trick. Your mummy is stock in her ways.

Justbehave:
But if na him father now all of Una for don give am deatbeat or a lazy man even drunk. Hypocrites.

I am just advising from experience..who would not want to cook a nice meal for herself.. it's not deliberate.

lordfemzy:
Hello friends,

I am please asking for all the genuine help i can get right now to deal with an issue that has tormented me all the days of my life. I am open to criticism if it comes my way.

Situation: my mum (biological mother) is extremely lazy, lacks discipline, difficult to advice and very manipulative. However the laziness aspect is my main issue.

A brief history of myself, i am currently in my late 30s, firstborn and only male, with 2 sisters also in their 30s. I have been managing her case for the past 30 years since our father passed. I should mention that her mental health isn't that perfect and she suffers breakdown at least once a year whenever she misses her drugs. The nature of her breakdown is that she will keep on talking about most events from the past and view them in a negative way, she gets violent at times and uses foul words while cursing anyone who she thinks has wronged her. I pray non of us reading this will experience this in their families.

The chaos we experience whenever there is a breakdown is something i don't wish for my enemy at all, the effect is draining financially, emotionally and in various other ways you can think of. Infact looking back i owe God a lot of gratitude for the strength and courage he has given me and by extension my sisters in managing her very tricky situation. The shame, embarrassment, wasted time and efforts, lost opportunities that have come with her condition can only be imagined. I have had to sleep over at the hospitals various times whenever she's on admission running into weeks at times, i have had to represent the family at functions she was suppose to attend but due to ill health. I was lucky i didn't fail any of my last papers in Uni cos she was on admission, i missed a second class upper courtesy of my mums condition, the only 2 courses i ever failed in my 4 years at the Uni can be linked to her condition. I had to practically plan and organise a wedding for our last born cos she was on hospital bed. Some of her breakdowns happen whenever an occasion or celebration within the family is about to happen... my 21st birthday, final exams leading to graduation in uni, weeks to my wedding, weeks to her second born wedding, a whole month to our last born wedding, funeral of her mother in law, funerals of our grandparents, her own 60th birthday... the list is so long and at times i almost consider it spiritual but i am better informed.

In the last 2 years or thereabout i have been able to connect a few dots and patterns based on what i have experienced and seen. When my mum and her siblings (five) were being raised, the kind of family setup was such that cousins, distant cousins and relatives lived with them. This was because her late dad was a University lecturer, probably the 1st in his Hometown and granny was a primary school teacher, you know how it was in those days. I was able to understand that my mom and most of her siblings except one practically lived a life free of stress cos they had other relatives who were willing and at disposal to do major chores and take up responsibilities at home, they sort of lived a carefree life. I have stayed and lived a couple of times with these other siblings of my mum due to various reasons like holidays from boarding school, moving to another location for job opportunities etc.

I can practically tell from what i have seen with this people. All her life, things were being done for her and she's just free to do anything she wants apart from chores. Even her building project though her own money and sweat was an initiative of her late parents. They were practically her project manager and support system throughout their lifetime. Its a good thing to do but not setting limits and not being hard has it own detriments eventually, cos till date she's entirely reliant on anyone available to do even the simplest of chores. Let me quickly breakdown some of her acts and attitude which is very injurious to her own health.

1. The first on the list and perhaps the most annoying one is her laziness and OMG it reeks to the heavens. She avoids responsibilities and doesn't do house chores and generally procrastinates. My mum will use the toilet in her room and even living room and not flush properly on a constant basis. She does this even when she travels elsewhere. My mum can eat but cannot wash her plates and utensils, she will leave her plates in the living room for days or just anywhere, pots will pile up in the kitchen and will not be cleaned until every other option is exhausted and a new meal must be made. She will not lay her bed or change sheets constantly. She doesn't dress smartly and lacks good wardrobe management. She doesn't sweep, her corridor may not be touched in weeks same with other rooms in her apartment. Shes doesn't bother if she's unkept. Whenever she eases herself, due to her carefree attitude she will leave stained urine on her clothe and she will wear this throughout the day causing mayhem wherever she goes. Just add anything you can thing of as examples, you will find it with my mum. The annoying thing here is that if you advice her or suggest a change, she will rebuke you and tell you your are insulting her.

2. She's carefree and lacks good financial management. She earns well over 100K per month as pension and if we calculate her expenses per month she should have over 30 to 35k as savings. You can never account for how she spends her money! 10 days into a new month, the money is gone. Most times her friends abroad send her free money from and she will just squander the money on frivolities. She has a small shop that she runs, but for her to even stock the place sef na issue, she doesnt have a separate account for business and no stock is taken end of month or at least a quarter. We actually warned her against the line of business as its very common and the profit isn't much. We have practically considered her carelessness, carefree attitude and inability to keep things safe and warned against the shop idea. In the last 3 years she has lost 2 phones of high value. As if she likes to brag, whenever shes having discussion about money that is in her favour, maybe salary or someone abroad sends her money, she will begin to speak at the top of her voice such that an average person passing round can almost get full details. We have severally warned her against this but no luck at all. The consequence is that she has been defrauded a couple of times, you can act as a fake customer care agent of any bank and ask my mum for sensitive details like card number, password and she will give you immediately without a second thought despite the fact that she has been warned repeatedly. As a matter of fact she doesn't listen to her children's counsel or advice, but anybody from outside will give her advice and she ll make us of that one. She once told me off that i am not in any position to advice her that shes older than me and it should be the other way round. But when all the shit happens yours truly will be the one managing d situation.

3. She's manipulative. My mum is a master in this game and i am ashamed of her actions. I can't even mention some of the things she has done to my wife and I on this platform. She lies, deny incidences and things she has said. About her drugs, there is just one rule, do not skip any of morning or evening doses. Whenever she does she will never own up to you and when the effect is now seen, she will still try to cover up by saying she can't remember.

4. She's unforgiving. My mum is the last person you want to offend, even things that shouldn't be considered will be used against you when the time comes. For instance my mum may give someone raw food out of her own freewill or maybe the person asked for it, but months from that time the story can change that the person is the one stealing raw food or looting her house.

I apologise this is a long read and i can't even explain a quarter of what is going on at the moment, but the summary is that her laziness and lack of motivation is driving me nuts, i always have to bear and manage the consequences whenever shit happens. Its not easy for me cos i have my own family to manage and the responsibility is killing. Currently her househelp resigned 2 months back and the house has been a mess since then, she does practically nothing. I have been attending a workshop for the last one week and heard she's been feeding on puff puff and cornflakes every other day without making stew or soup and eating real food. This is a woman that money on her, even if you are lazy to cook, why not indulge yourself and patronise eateries till you have motivation to enter kitchen. Why not even make an arrangement for someone to come cook food for you everyday amd pay the person weekly or daily. We have to think for her and suggest things that require no initiative in most cases. I had to go and buy beef and made blended stew for her last weekend for example to motivate her amd assist like i always do. When i got back the following weekend, the stew wasn't even half used and there was mould on it indicating that she never cooked a serious meal, she was probably buying bread and removing the meat until it finished and lost interest in even heating the stew to warm.

Its more like if i don't do things for her, she will make herself fall into a state where she will enter deep sickness or starvation or depression such that people will see me as a bad person if anything sould happen to her. Already she has created that impression and she's living the lifestyle. Its been two weeks she's has remained indoors for no reason, no opening of shop, no cooking, no cleaning, no laundry, no strolling out and always expecting unknown help from anywhere it comes from. I have told her to pick herself up that help is something we must give ourselves. I have to go out to work daily not sitting down to baby sit my mum who is not an invalid. Her body is complete with no defects but i can't just help her laziness and attitude anylonger, its choking for me and i can't take ot anymore or do more than i have been doing. I have literally carried this woman for the most productive part of my life and done nothing wrong just loving my mother unconditionally. I have come to a point where i have to move on and break some unnecessary connections for my sanity and future of myself amd immediate family.

Please help and advice me guys on what to do. When she not in good health mentally na wahala and serious commotion and when shes stable, i have to battle with laziness, constant manipulations, carefree lifestyle, lack of discipline and vision and lots more. I have endured these cycle for too long. Also note that my sisters are married and are not even available at all, one is overseas and the other in a faraway state. I may not have touched some areas cos the issue too plenty but if questions are asked i would digress into it and share details truthfully. God bless

Moderator Sir/Ma, i beg you to help me push this to front page. I am not feeling good at all. Thanks

Challenging issues there. But what advise do you expect to get here? That you should leave her to her fate or what? Okay, so see, in life there are some problems that do not have solution, the way out is to learn how to live with them.

If you say your mum is lazy, abeg, let me ask you , did you not say she is a retiree? so she is above 60 years. She is no longer young to do some of the things. Hire a caregiver for her. Let the person be a mature and understanding person. Let the person know the challenges she will face taking care of her. Yours and those of your other siblings is to fund everything. Mental illness can distablise someone to start behaving like a baby atimes.
From all i heard you analyse about her she is not that bad, its the illness that affected her, You dont expect her still maintain high sense of decency and organisation under that kind of condition. I think you expect so much from her sorry forgetting she herself is helpless. Take it easy with her.

Nawaoh God bless my mum ooo..see me that was rebuking my mum because she was washing her car in the night I returned from work ..I told her to stop it ...I told her I will get a car wash to comeby to wash her car if she feels is dirty...but then bro laziness uncleanness is part of mental illness. Let the doctors know about it...mental illnessess doesn't go like that..even when the sufferer seems OK, the signs will be there....takecare of your mum ...before
U regret it when she's gone

Babangidapikin:


I am just advising from experience..who would not want to cook a nice meal for herself.. it's not deliberate.

Would you have given such advice assuming he was talking about his father? Be honest

This story is too long to finish
reading. I just pray you find peace
and support..😐😐

Stevenbright:
At the moment she is leaving alone, which is not good for her type of person. Get her a matured house help. Someone who is kind, has her own family but need the work.

She should be well paid, she should become a friend and jist mate with your mom not just a house help.

With this, you will be able to take a break and breathe while focusing on yourself and family.

Op, this suggestion is very good.
I don't support the idea of consigning her to a care home. Let the person you find be more like a companion who will also supervise her medication.

Also agree with your siblings to send the grandkids to visit her during each holiday. You guys can rotate the visits among your kids. Grandparents love their grandkids and this Will give her a wonderful lift from time to time.

Please continue to bear with her as mental health issues are serious and need a lot of patience. I wish you all the best.

lordfemzy:
Hello friends,

I am please asking for all the genuine help i can get right now to deal with an issue that has tormented me all the days of my life. I am open to criticism if it comes my way.

Situation: my mum (biological mother) is extremely lazy, lacks discipline, difficult to advice and very manipulative. However the laziness aspect is my main issue.

A brief history of myself, i am currently in my late 30s, firstborn and only male, with 2 sisters also in their 30s. I have been managing her case for the past 30 years since our father passed. I should mention that her mental health isn't that perfect and she suffers breakdown at least once a year whenever she misses her drugs. The nature of her breakdown is that she will keep on talking about most events from the past and view them in a negative way, she gets violent at times and uses foul words while cursing anyone who she thinks has wronged her. I pray non of us reading this will experience this in their families.

The chaos we experience whenever there is a breakdown is something i don't wish for my enemy at all, the effect is draining financially, emotionally and in various other ways you can think of. Infact looking back i owe God a lot of gratitude for the strength and courage he has given me and by extension my sisters in managing her very tricky situation. The shame, embarrassment, wasted time and efforts, lost opportunities that have come with her condition can only be imagined. I have had to sleep over at the hospitals various times whenever she's on admission running into weeks at times, i have had to represent the family at functions she was suppose to attend but due to ill health. I was lucky i didn't fail any of my last papers in Uni cos she was on admission, i missed a second class upper courtesy of my mums condition, the only 2 courses i ever failed in my 4 years at the Uni can be linked to her condition. I had to practically plan and organise a wedding for our last born cos she was on hospital bed. Some of her breakdowns happen whenever an occasion or celebration within the family is about to happen... my 21st birthday, final exams leading to graduation in uni, weeks to my wedding, weeks to her second born wedding, a whole month to our last born wedding, funeral of her mother in law, funerals of our grandparents, her own 60th birthday... the list is so long and at times i almost consider it spiritual but i am better informed.

In the last 2 years or thereabout i have been able to connect a few dots and patterns based on what i have experienced and seen. When my mum and her siblings (five) were being raised, the kind of family setup was such that cousins, distant cousins and relatives lived with them. This was because her late dad was a University lecturer, probably the 1st in his Hometown and granny was a primary school teacher, you know how it was in those days. I was able to understand that my mom and most of her siblings except one practically lived a life free of stress cos they had other relatives who were willing and at disposal to do major chores and take up responsibilities at home, they sort of lived a carefree life. I have stayed and lived a couple of times with these other siblings of my mum due to various reasons like holidays from boarding school, moving to another location for job opportunities etc.

I can practically tell from what i have seen with this people. All her life, things were being done for her and she's just free to do anything she wants apart from chores. Even her building project though her own money and sweat was an initiative of her late parents. They were practically her project manager and support system throughout their lifetime. Its a good thing to do but not setting limits and not being hard has it own detriments eventually, cos till date she's entirely reliant on anyone available to do even the simplest of chores. Let me quickly breakdown some of her acts and attitude which is very injurious to her own health.

1. The first on the list and perhaps the most annoying one is her laziness and OMG it reeks to the heavens. She avoids responsibilities and doesn't do house chores and generally procrastinates. My mum will use the toilet in her room and even living room and not flush properly on a constant basis. She does this even when she travels elsewhere. My mum can eat but cannot wash her plates and utensils, she will leave her plates in the living room for days or just anywhere, pots will pile up in the kitchen and will not be cleaned until every other option is exhausted and a new meal must be made. She will not lay her bed or change sheets constantly. She doesn't dress smartly and lacks good wardrobe management. She doesn't sweep, her corridor may not be touched in weeks same with other rooms in her apartment. Shes doesn't bother if she's unkept. Whenever she eases herself, due to her carefree attitude she will leave stained urine on her clothe and she will wear this throughout the day causing mayhem wherever she goes. Just add anything you can thing of as examples, you will find it with my mum. The annoying thing here is that if you advice her or suggest a change, she will rebuke you and tell you your are insulting her.

2. She's carefree and lacks good financial management. She earns well over 100K per month as pension and if we calculate her expenses per month she should have over 30 to 35k as savings. You can never account for how she spends her money! 10 days into a new month, the money is gone. Most times her friends abroad send her free money from and she will just squander the money on frivolities. She has a small shop that she runs, but for her to even stock the place sef na issue, she doesnt have a separate account for business and no stock is taken end of month or at least a quarter. We actually warned her against the line of business as its very common and the profit isn't much. We have practically considered her carelessness, carefree attitude and inability to keep things safe and warned against the shop idea. In the last 3 years she has lost 2 phones of high value. As if she likes to brag, whenever shes having discussion about money that is in her favour, maybe salary or someone abroad sends her money, she will begin to speak at the top of her voice such that an average person passing round can almost get full details. We have severally warned her against this but no luck at all. The consequence is that she has been defrauded a couple of times, you can act as a fake customer care agent of any bank and ask my mum for sensitive details like card number, password and she will give you immediately without a second thought despite the fact that she has been warned repeatedly. As a matter of fact she doesn't listen to her children's counsel or advice, but anybody from outside will give her advice and she ll make us of that one. She once told me off that i am not in any position to advice her that shes older than me and it should be the other way round. But when all the shit happens yours truly will be the one managing d situation.

3. She's manipulative. My mum is a master in this game and i am ashamed of her actions. I can't even mention some of the things she has done to my wife and I on this platform. She lies, deny incidences and things she has said. About her drugs, there is just one rule, do not skip any of morning or evening doses. Whenever she does she will never own up to you and when the effect is now seen, she will still try to cover up by saying she can't remember.

4. She's unforgiving. My mum is the last person you want to offend, even things that shouldn't be considered will be used against you when the time comes. For instance my mum may give someone raw food out of her own freewill or maybe the person asked for it, but months from that time the story can change that the person is the one stealing raw food or looting her house.

I apologise this is a long read and i can't even explain a quarter of what is going on at the moment, but the summary is that her laziness and lack of motivation is driving me nuts, i always have to bear and manage the consequences whenever shit happens. Its not easy for me cos i have my own family to manage and the responsibility is killing. Currently her househelp resigned 2 months back and the house has been a mess since then, she does practically nothing. I have been attending a workshop for the last one week and heard she's been feeding on puff puff and cornflakes every other day without making stew or soup and eating real food. This is a woman that money on her, even if you are lazy to cook, why not indulge yourself and patronise eateries till you have motivation to enter kitchen. Why not even make an arrangement for someone to come cook food for you everyday amd pay the person weekly or daily. We have to think for her and suggest things that require no initiative in most cases. I had to go and buy beef and made blended stew for her last weekend for example to motivate her amd assist like i always do. When i got back the following weekend, the stew wasn't even half used and there was mould on it indicating that she never cooked a serious meal, she was probably buying bread and removing the meat until it finished and lost interest in even heating the stew to warm.

Its more like if i don't do things for her, she will make herself fall into a state where she will enter deep sickness or starvation or depression such that people will see me as a bad person if anything sould happen to her. Already she has created that impression and she's living the lifestyle. Its been two weeks she's has remained indoors for no reason, no opening of shop, no cooking, no cleaning, no laundry, no strolling out and always expecting unknown help from anywhere it comes from. I have told her to pick herself up that help is something we must give ourselves. I have to go out to work daily not sitting down to baby sit my mum who is not an invalid. Her body is complete with no defects but i can't just help her laziness and attitude anylonger, its choking for me and i can't take ot anymore or do more than i have been doing. I have literally carried this woman for the most productive part of my life and done nothing wrong just loving my mother unconditionally. I have come to a point where i have to move on and break some unnecessary connections for my sanity and future of myself amd immediate family.

Please help and advice me guys on what to do. When she not in good health mentally na wahala and serious commotion and when shes stable, i have to battle with laziness, constant manipulations, carefree lifestyle, lack of discipline and vision and lots more. I have endured these cycle for too long. Also note that my sisters are married and are not even available at all, one is overseas and the other in a faraway state. I may not have touched some areas cos the issue too plenty but if questions are asked i would digress into it and share details truthfully. God bless

Moderator Sir/Ma, i beg you to help me push this to front page. I am not feeling good at all. Thanks

Perhaps I m the only person that understands you on here cos my mum has also been dependent on that mental medication for close to 40 years. She also has episodes whenever she skips her medication. In my own case, I am her only child. I pray the good lord will continue to strengthen you (us) to show her unconditional love.

P.S

this topic deserves front page please man.
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first be fore I said anything,
When did her breakdown started, during when your dad is still alive, or After his Death

Send Your Mum Back to.her Mum

Pray for her and insist she jettison her laziness. She is lucky you are still around her. If you are no longer around like your sisters she will know what it means to be left alone. Her attitude is totally bad bro

if only you can bring mommy to shiloh let the oil of healing touch her
anyway if you can come yourself or ur wife can come, pls do ..GOD has handled worse cases
Mommy will be fine if you can get her what she needs..physically and spiritually