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Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:02pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Please let's go back to talking about 2 Kingdoms of God because the more you dwell on this, the more you make a fool of your organization. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:03pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills:Okay |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 7:04pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Your grievances is blurring your sense of reasoning on this matter. Rather your madness and insanities peddling over busybody is making you add more to the quality of madness and insanities peddling But there is no tradition that supports murder, robbery or busybody in other people's affairs. The manipulator and liar wants to start remove wrongdoing which varies from place to place including ADULTERY that he wants to isolate |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills: NO, this is not where we started but if you've forgotten i will remind you. You said people must be BORN AGAIN before they enter God's kingdom and i told you that Jesus was talking about the Jewish High Court who thought they will have automatic ticket to rule with the Christ. You said it's about all believers and i said NO that what led to the case of the thief and you said he could be a born again Christian so i said he can't because he never passed through the protocol Jesus stated for Nicodemus then you said maybe he has passed through and i said it's not possible for a BORN AGAIN Christian to be a thief. Now you're trying to change the subject to sin and i said there's a difference between sin and what is crime in all human societies what Peter listed is not just sin but CRIME in all societies. So if someone has become a born again Christian the only sin he could commit are minor things which only imperfection could cause because we're not perfect {Romans 7:15-25} but when talking about grievous sin NO the Holy Spirit dwelling in a BORN AGAIN Christian will never allow him or her to fall to that extent! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:06pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Mr Max: Was the robber born again? Tctrills: "I don't know", "maybe"... How can a sane being be arguing what he doesn't know or can't explain shior lol π |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:08pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
cornelboy:You mean it's insanity to say you don't know something right? No wonder you claim to know everything until you are properly questioned. |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:09pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills:Hahaha π€£ Weren't you arguing with Mr Max? Was the thief born again? Did he enter God's kingdom? The questions are still there for you to answer π |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:10pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Please list the minor sins and list where it is stated that these are the only sins a born again can commit. As I say is this your guesswork or is it from the bible. Also is adultery a minor sin? Pls start explaining |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
cornelboy: What is really disturbing him now is the fact that Jesus promised someone Paradise and the person is not a born again Christian so that nullifies their claim that only born again will have everlasting life! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills: Was Paul committing adultery when he said he is still struggling with sin? Romans 7:15-25 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:12pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:If they can't acknowledge that here, they will surely do in their closet π "That JWs have the accurate interpretation of the bible"... |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 7:13pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills: From all indication that's the the lies and manipulations of the scripture he wants you to say YES to with no questions asked |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:14pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So I even agreed much earlier today for us to assume the robber was not born again but you are scare to explain how this leads to your 2 kingdoms doctrine. Since you really can't show that the robber was not born again, I have agreed to move forward, let's assume he was not born again now prove your point. Let's start it this way, with reference to your Bible, where is paradise located? 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
cornelboy: That's the only reason why i often engage this guy because i don't worry whatever he says i'm ready to prove to him that only Jehovah's Witnesses have the accurate knowledge of the Bible! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:15pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:That's a stupid question. I don't know Pauls sins just as I don't know your sins. Or do you have a verse that lists all Paul's sins? |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:18pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills: You can't leave any stone unturned so we have to settle the highlighted first otherwise there's no need further arguing. An armed robber can't be a BORN AGAIN Christian! Armed robbery is not something people do by mistake or as a tradition! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 7:19pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: See the liar and manipulator knows the rope that has completely tied and the stood about to be kicked begged for mercy with more lies and manipulations from his madness and insanities peddling brains Now you're trying to change the subject to sin and i said there's a difference between sin and what is crime in all human societies what Peter listed is not just sin but CRIME in all societies. tctrills what he has just said is in reality they are not expected to commit not just sin but crime too is not allowed In reality the thief who committed not just sin but crime and a wrongdoer cannot enter God's kingdom while others who committed not just sins but crime and wrongdoings based on MaxInDHouse definition of wrongdoing can enter God's kingdom See double standards everywhere |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:20pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Do people commit adultery by mistake? And I put it to you, someone can be a busybody by mistake. |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:20pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
achorladey:He has no good foot to stand on 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:23pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Please inform you boy that you are the one hesitating to go forward even when I gave you the chance. You accused me of liars but you are the dishonest one here 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:23pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:π€£π€£π€£ Armed robber na born again Abeg how e take happen explain o tctrills ππΎββοΈ |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:25pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills:Was the thief born again yes or no Mr Max and I say yes π A convicted armed robbery couldn't be a born again. Are you even okay? |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:25pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
cornelboy:I am still waiting for your oga to tell us the sins born again are allowed to commit. It's 2 days now but he is yet to reply. Maybe you can help, let's see if robbery is in the list or not. 1 Like |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:26pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills: Paul himself openly penned it down in his letter that he is still battling with sin {Romans 7:15-25} so if you feel he was ROBBING PEOPLE or SLEEPING AROUND WITH PEOPLE'S WIVES or KILLING PEOPLE or DOING SOME FORMS OF EVIL just say it now because as his Christian brother i can tell you that he was still struggling with tendency to do what is bad but he is really fighting that urge. For instance Jesus said we shouldn't call our Christian brother a "FOOL" yet Paul addressed his fellow BORN AGAIN Christian brothers in Galatian "FOOLISH GALATIANS" So he is really battling with a violent heart and that's a sin because a born again Christian must have self control! Galatians 5:23 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 7:27pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
cornelboy: Still asking those questions from your madness and insanities peddling brains |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:28pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So Paul's only sin was calling people fool? And that those not jeopardize his salvation even when Jesus Christ says it does but being a busybody would jeopardize one's salvation |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 7:31pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Another round of assumptions, speculation don start For instance Jesus said we shouldn't call our Christian brother a "FOOL" yet Paul addressed his fellow BORN AGAIN Christian brothers in Galatian "FOOLISH GALATIANS" So he is really battling with a violent heart The bold shows the manipulations and lies in your brains . Where is the evidence that says he is battling with a violent heart? This was how busybody, wrongdoers became another room for you to peddle madness and insanities from your brains |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills: Both are sin but a busybody can make the whole congregation be at risk with politicians. In Russia for instance the one and only reason Vladimir Putin is against JWs is the rumour that our brothers are busybodies revealing the secret of Russia to USA simply because that's where our headquarter is. So Putin is ready to wipe out JWs from Russia because of that but do you think he could have taken such a step if it's about someone sleeping with someone's wife or husband? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills: 7:35pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So that is why to you, a busybody's salvation is jeopardized but an adulterers salvation is not? Not let's slowly try to understand ourselves |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 7:36pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills:Oh lemme help. Born agains are allowed to participate in armed robbery |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:36pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
tctrills:Paul did out of anger and that's where our imperfect state comes in he wasn't calling his BORN AGAIN Christian brothers FOOLISH because they offended him personally rather he was annoyed as they were listening to Jews who weren't members of the Governing Body of the first century. So he did it due to imperfection yet it's a sin! |
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by achorladey: 7:38pm On Dec 05, 2023 |
cornelboy: The reason I said you and MaxInDHouse are madness and insanities peddling peddlers.
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