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nans24:
But Rutherford said Jehovah told him so. Who are you to question a governing body member. I don't expect you to know this things because your leaders in Warwick warned you not to be educated

Well he made a mistake and that we already know from the start that they are fallible!

achorladey:
since you know they are imperfect and make mistakes, that should tell your madness and insanities peddling brains that their lies and manipulations should be exposed for what it is.

Exactly. Since you can admit as a JW that your leaders make mistakes, it also means they can lead you astray with their opinions. They can also lie to you. So, their lies must be exposed.

Sakody:
Exactly. Since you can admit as a JW that your leaders make mistakes, it also means they can lead you astray with their opinions. They can also lie to you. So, their lies must be exposed.

Exactly!
Then after exposing their lies you have to make sure that the truth is PRESENTED for the one who love associating with fellow believers! Hebrews 10:24-25

MaxInDHouse:
Well he made a mistake and that we already know from the start that they are fallible!

Rutherford didn't make a mistake. He lied on God's head. You dey hear? He used God to Lie. He said Jehovah told him the prophecy. Do you know the punishment waiting for him for doing that? Who is the Liar, God or Rutherford?

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly!
Then after exposing their lies you have to make sure that the truth is PRESENTED for the one who love associating with fellow believers! Hebrews 10:24-25

Since you can admit as a JW that your leaders make mistakes, it also means they can lead you astray with their opinions. They can also lie to you. So, their lies must be exposed. Don't gnash your teeth in anger that their lies are being exposed because it is the price they have to pay for being Liars. God detests Liars. If they can use Baba God himself to lie, how many more lies have they taught you now as we speak?

MaxInDHouse:
Well he made a mistake and that we already know from the start that they are fallible!

Now you agreed he made mistake but you have once defend that Watchtower never made mention of any specific date and it was apostate who misunderstood Watchtower.

To defend lies it's not easy thou

MaxInDHouse:
NEGATIVE REPUTATION!

So how do you figure out what is NEGATIVE in the absence of POSITIVE?

Well you at your age you can't tell negative then sorry I can't help you

Sakody:
Rutherford didn't make a mistake. He lied on God's head. You dey hear? He used God to Lie. He said Jehovah told him the prophecy. Do you know the punishment waiting for him for doing that? Who is the Liar, God or Rutherford?

Before admitting that they made mistake different defence that it's not mistake have happened here.

But the @bold is where they won't see.

You lied that God told you something when God didn't say anything.

Sakody:
Rutherford didn't make a mistake. He lied on God's head. You dey hear? He used God to Lie. He said Jehovah told him the prophecy. Do you know the punishment waiting for him for doing that? Who is the Liar, God or Rutherford?

LIE

Definitely you don't know the indepth meaning of that word "LIE" because if you do there must be a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP of worshipers today doing God's will who aren't members of the organization Rutherford left behind!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you are a clown walahi talahi because TRUTH means what everyone around you agreed upon and practically applicable in the absence of practical examples then there is no truth!

So you say things that you don't even understand. Please explain what you mean by
in the absence of practical examples then there is no truth?
If you ask me to give examples of countries in Africa and my answer is Nigeria, does that become the truth?

Sakody:
Since you can admit as a JW that your leaders make mistakes, it also means they can lead you astray with their opinions. They can also lie to you. So, their lies must be exposed. Don't gnash your teeth in anger that their lies are being exposed because it is the price they have to pay for being Liars. God detests Liars. If they can use Baba God himself to lie, how many more lies have they taught you now as we speak?

PRESENT the TRUTH and the ORGANIZATION practicing it today!

tctrills:
Well you at your age you can't tell negative then sorry I can't help you

Sorry in school where i was taught about what is NEGATIVE the first thing i learned is what is POSITIVE that's the one and only way to map out the NEGATIVE!

Sakody:
Exactly. Since you can admit as a JW that your leaders make mistakes, it also means they can lead you astray with their opinions. They can also lie to you. So, their lies must be exposed.

That is why they demand blind obedience with Hebrews 13:17 and MaxInDHouse madness and insanities peddling brains loves that authority to command such blind obedience in his congregation

They were willing to use it here only to find out that nairaland is not kingdom hall where their powers are activated over those placed under them

tctrills:
So you say things that you don't even understand. Please explain what you mean by
in the absence of practical examples then there is no truth? If you ask me to give examples of countries in Africa and my answer is Nigeria, does that become the truth?

TRUTH must be agreed upon by those bearing it so that they can unitedly do things in common with that they will put to shame LIARS but in the absence of such a structure there is no truth!

MaxInDHouse:
PRESENT the TRUTH and the ORGANIZATION practicing it today!

When you respond to this question... Do christendom teach and practice the truth? You will see the presentation clearly

MaxInDHouse:
LIE

Definitely you don't know the indepth meaning of that word "LIE" because if you do there must be a BETTER PERFORMING GROUP of worshipers today doing God's will who aren't members of the organization Rutherford left behind!

MaxInDHouse is the one who knows the indepth meaning of every word on nairaland. Na the new tactics incorporated into your madness and insanities peddling on nairaland

achorladey:
Do christendom teach and practice the truth?

NO!
TRUTH doesn't lead bearers into fighting and killing one another {John 13:34-35} just as Christendom does today only lies lead people to killing people because it's from Satan the father of lies whose will is to get people killed! John 8:44

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly!
Then after exposing their lies you have to make sure that the truth is PRESENTED for the one who love associating with fellow believers! Hebrews 10:24-25

One of such truth is suffer as a Christian not as a Jehovah's witness, millions and billions are doing that do you agree?

Do Jehovah’s witnesses suffer as a Christian or as a cursed and bastardized true Christians?

Respond make I see the extent of your insanities and madness peddling over that

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
TRUTH doesn't lead bearers into fighting and killing one another just as Christendom does today only lies lead people to killing people because it's from Satan the father of lies whose will is to get people killed! John 8:44

No wonder you added John 8:44 since the truth no dey inside you.

TRUTH doesn't lead bearers into fighting and killing one another

Your Jehovah’s witnesses fight and kill fellow members without going to war and that is why they are the only true Christians

just as Christendom does today

Jehovah’s Witnesses do the same

only lies lead people to killing people because it's from Satan the father of lies whose will is to get people killed! John 8:44

Jehovah's Witnesses and Jehovah’s organization are liars and originate from the Devil as your scripture attached as evidence so when you fight and kill people in your midst know it is a confirmation of your source of origination.

In essence christendom teach the truth even about Jehovah's Witnesses that Jehovah’s witnesses are liars and that is the truth. That's what you successfully prove with your response.

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MaxInDHouse:
TRUTH must be agreed upon by those bearing it so that they can unitedly do things in common with that they will put to shame LIARS but in the absence of such a structure there is no truth!

So truth is not an agreement. So a million people can agree on a lie. And you have not been able to shame anyone do clearly even according to your standards, you lack the truth.

tctrills:
So truth is not an agreement. So a million people can agree on a lie. And you have not been able to shame anyone do clearly even according to your standards, you lack the truth.

What is AGREEMENT?

Only Jehovah's Witnesses agreed upon what we have globally all others disagree among themselves that's why they're still making, buying, selling, and using weapons against one another today.
Can you tell your own child a toddler that you and someone AGREED on something yet you carried weapons against that same person?

tctrills:
So truth is not an agreement. So a million people can agree on a lie. And you have not been able to shame anyone do clearly even according to your standards, you lack the truth.

For example, billions agree on the TRINITY doctrine for ages as truth yet the madness and insanities peddling peddler aka MaxInDHouse will say what they believe is a lie

That's the indepth knowledge he has about the meaning of truth

MaxInDHouse:
What is AGREEMENT?

Only Jehovah's Witnesses agreed upon what we have globally all others disagree among themselves that's why they're still making, buying, selling, and using weapons against one another today.
Can you tell your own child a toddler that you and someone AGREED on something yet you carried weapons against that same person?

First, please learn to use your dictionary and understand your definitions before talking to educated people. Your definition of "Agreement" can only work among illiterates and semi illiterates. The definition of Agreement has nothing to do with war or carrying weapons
In fact, a people can agree to carry weapons.
So please, work on your education. It's not ok that I have to teach you all the time.
It takes time and effort to study and use a dictionary so stop being lazy

tctrills:
First, please learn to use your dictionary and understand your definitions before talking to educated people. Your definition of "Agreement" can only work among illiterates and semi illiterates. The definition of Agreement has nothing to do with war or carrying weapons
In fact, a people can agree to carry weapons.
So please, work on your education. It's not ok that I have to teach you all the time.
It takes time and effort to study and use a dictionary so stop being lazy

OLÓDO!

So to you when people agree to carry weapons they will also agree to start killing themselves shey?

Walahi talahi e no go better for Satan! John 8:44

It's normal in the world for some people to hate others for a reason best known to them but it's inhumane to hate the TRUTH.

How can you struggle through school, get fine job, marry, have healthy children, acquire lots of properties and instead of sitting back to enjoy the fruit of your labour you choose to AGREE with someone else who has acquired the same thing to carry weapons and slaughter each other and while you're looking forward to killing each other you AGREED that he should bomb your wife, children and all what you've laboured for all your life?

Ọmọ and you still call that an AGREEMENT!

Haba Satan is really wicked o!

achorladey:
For example, billions agree on the TRINITY doctrine for ages as truth yet the madness and insanities peddling peddler aka MaxInDHouse will say what they believe is a lie

To Pharisees Jesus said:

You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. John 8:44

Let's analyze this, according to Jesus.
(1) That Jewish sect has a father.
(2) They will do the will of their father.
(3) Their father is a murderer when he began.
(4) Their father hate the truth.
(5) Their father speaks LIES.
(6) He speaks according to his own opinion.
(7) He lies naturally as if he's born to do so.

What has TRINITY achieved for centuries in the midst of adherents?
Trinitarians say Jesus is their King yet they have ignored the order of the King who said:
Love your neighbour as yourself {Mark 12:31} but the worst is how Trinitarians will carry weapons against one another and still bless the weapons in the name of Jesus to kill their fellow believers that Jesus commanded them to love just as he loves! John 13:34-35

Honestly speaking do you still think TRINITY is of the TRUTH? Revelations 6:3-4, 9; 17:6; 18:24; 19:2

MaxInDHouse:
To Pharisees Jesus said:

You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. John 8:44

Let's analyze this, according to Jesus.
(1) That Jewish sect has a father.
(2) They will do the will of their father.
(3) Their father is a murderer when he began.
(4) Their father hate the truth.
(5) Their father speaks LIES.
(6) He speaks according to his own opinion.
(7) He lies naturally as if he's born to do so.

See how this perfectly described you.

1. You lied here many times i.e that people like me has different moniker and as well as other people.

2. You speak according to your own opinion i.e the Apostles act of GENEROSITY is EVIL and of the flesh, Jesus never taught what the Apostles did even when your Watchtower stated it clearly that it was an act of GENEROSITY.

3. You lied naturally i.e the name Christian is CURSED AND BASTARDIZED and anyone who wants to associate himself with the name should think twice of his/her stand in Christ. Yet JWs and your gods in Warwick still called themselves CHRISTIANS.

What has TRINITY achieved for centuries in the midst of adherents?
Trinitarians say Jesus is their King yet they have ignored the order of the King who said:
Love your neighbour as yourself {Mark 12:31} but the worst is how Trinitarians will carry weapons against one another and still bless the weapons in the name of Jesus to kill their fellow believers that Jesus commanded them to love just as he loves! John 13:34-35

Honestly speaking do you still think TRINITY is of the TRUTH? Revelations 6:3-4, 9; 17:6; 18:24; 19:2

Trinity has been of truth before the foundation of the World.

Can you provide where members of Trinitarian agreed to carry weapons against themselves?

MaxInDHouse:
OLÓDO!

So to you when people agree to carry weapons they will also agree to start killing themselves shey?

Walahi talahi e no go better for Satan! John 8:44

let's say we have a definition problem.
So let's please define the English word.
The word Agreement is not a product of the JW church rather, it's a simple English word.
Here is a simple definition
agreement
əˈɡriːm(ə)nt
noun
harmony or accordance in opinion or feeling.
the governments failed to reach agreement.
So do the Catholics agree on for example Trinity? Yes they do.
Do members of deeper life agree on their doctrines, yes they do.
Do Moslems agree that Mohamed is a prophet? Yes they do.
I hope you now have more understanding.
Agreement means harmony of opinion.
Every religious sect has harmony of opinion. No religion can exist without it's followers having harmony of opinion.
So even if 2 members are fighting as long as they share the same harmony of opinion, that is a religion.
Please go back to your English class bro.

tctrills:
let's say we have a definition problem.
So let's please define the English word.
The word Agreement is not a product of the JW church rather, it's a simple English word.
Here is a simple definition
agreement
əˈɡriːm(ə)nt
noun
harmony or accordance in opinion or feeling.
the governments failed to reach agreement.
So do the Catholics agree on for example Trinity? Yes they do.
Do members of deeper life agree on their doctrines, yes they do.
Do Moslems agree that Mohamed is a prophet? Yes they do.
I hope you now have more understanding.
Agreement means harmony of opinion.
Every religious sect has harmony of opinion. No religion can exist without it's followers having harmony of opinion.
So even if 2 members are fighting as long as they share the same harmony of opinion, that is a religion.
Please go back to your English class bro.

Ọmọ the word "AGREE" has a deeper meaning than what you're saying so don't allow Satan to blur your senses with language issues.

If you could AGREE with someone to destroy everything you've worked for all your life then i congratulate your English teacher!

How can two sane humans claim they AGREED that Muhammad is a prophet of God yet failed to use what God's prophet said to settle matters peacefully between them?
Imagine you having two children and you've taught them a lot about love joy and peace as children belonging to the same father, then the two has issues only to resort to picking up weapons against each other.
Ọmọ will you be proud to say you're their father?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the word "AGREE" has a deeper meaning than what you're saying so don't allow Satan to blur your senses with language issues.

If you could AGREE with someone to destroy everything you've worked for all your life then i congratulate your English teacher!

How can two sane humans claim they AGREED that Muhammad is a prophet of God yet failed to use what God's prophet said to settle matters peacefully between them?
Imagine you having two children and you've taught them a lot about love joy and peace as children belonging to the same father, then the two has issues only to resort to picking up weapons against each other.
Ọmọ will you be proud to say you're their father?

Please can you point me to the dictionary where you got your deeper meaning.
We can't just start giving words new meanings for the sake of arguments.
If after teaching you and even introducing you to a book called the dictionary, you still can't define agree, then you can't be helped. I can only pray that your children don't inherit your intelligence or lack of it.
Please feel free to link us to your dictionary. As I told you, the average Nairaland user is not a JW semi illiterate so link us the the source of your personal definition.

tctrills:
If after teaching you and even introducing you to a book called the dictionary, you still can't define agree, then you can't be helped. I can only pray that your children don't inherit your intelligence or lack of it

You only need the common sense my friend.

Satan lied to religionists claiming they AGREED on doctrines when the so called doctrines can't be used to settle matters peacefully among them.
That's what God's word defined as LIE / FALSEHOOD/ DARKNESS!

God's word said:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness. 2Timothy 3:16

Before Christ Isaiah prophesied:

He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4

So if any group or organization claim they AGREED on some forms of doctrines but they can't use it to achieve the above then they've been BLINDED by the God of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} because there is no agreement when we can't make GOOD use of what we have to achieve what we need which is LOVE JOY and PEACE among adherents of any so called DOCTRINE if it's the TRUTH! John 17:17, 22

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=127575762]You only need the common sense my friend.

Satan lied to religionists claiming they AGREED on doctrines when the so called doctrines can't be used to settle matters peacefully among them.

Oga, English language is not about common sense.
If you had common sense as you claim, then you will stick to the common definition.
If you definition of a word is not consistent with the dictionary then it's a case of uncommon stupidity and not common sense.