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Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by JasonNOTStatham: 12:29pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
I do not agree with this. > Sex and fruits are different thing, because a region termed the word "chop" doesn't makes it a general agreement. Aside that, the fruit is from the Tree of knowledge of good and evil Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman,"We may eat fruit from the trees" which tells you there are variations of edible entity within the region. "Fruits" are primarily product of trees (secondary: labour, living organisms or results from a previous activity) When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for"They realized they were naked" ; to realize, to discover - is related to knowledge. Unlike humans, animals do not need to cover their unclothedness (shame or other reasons) as they do not possess such knowledge, wisdom or understanding as such. They disobeyed God, which is considered evil - they are aware at this point as they are knowledgeable in this area. An Notice they try hiding from God - (humans cannot be wiser than God). Sex didn't make them hide, neither did it give them the judgemental conscience of good and evil. If it was sex, it would likely be stated as such "term" was not "hidden" in the bible. For example, " ESV Now Adam knew* Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten a man with the help of the LORD.” NIV Adam made love* to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain." And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? HaveWhy such questions? Remember the Lord's first question to man "where are you?" If you go further, you may deduce that someone without "such knowledge" may not respond with a correct answer. Obviously, they have been naked since with no shame as they do not KNOW what clothing mean. God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitfulNot only man did God bless and tell them to multiply, he also instruct the animals to multiply... This multiplication doesn't concern itself with a tree in the garden. 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by nigeriansamurai(m): 12:38pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:now oga make i clear you... you cannot talk about christainity and the bible without the catholic church. Its like someone telling you about a movie without you ever watchin it... Most concept common in our various churches stems from a catholic doctrine... What im tryin to say is that without the catholic church there would be no trinity, no bible, no holy communion, no clergy strata, EVEN JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN A ONLY A PROPHET(Because he was dietified by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH) in our churches of today... |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Westerhoffe(m): 12:39pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
See how you're gallantly blasting falsehood! Which Mod pushed this to the front page even? Then describe the Tree of Life. You guys will just dole heresy and still be defending it. Where did the Bible define sex as the forbidden fruit? That was how one was claiming the other day it was an apple. 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 12:41pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
ukaface: Ah, sister you bin know say we no know before na as una no gree tell us. Since forever, I notice say na only man say talk about dis Adam and Eve matter, una go just tight mouth and lock up like dat and nobody got open una . Dat na one of the things wey make me say i must carry out dis investigation because I see say una know sumtin wey una no dey gree talk. So I happy say you don confess. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by mauriceju2(m): 12:46pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Testimonies of former agents of Satan who are now Christians, you are not here by chance, God brought you here to tell you something read on to see what God want to tell you, https://spiritreports..com/2018/10/false-ministers.html |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by incogni2o: 12:46pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: No one forces anyone to take have sex, take Drugs or be corrupt. It's more of coersion and temptation. Again go ask people dealing with any form of addiction. The first illegitimate experience most times triggers the fall. STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE . YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF UNDER A CURSE. But sex is always desirable and pleasurable to the eyes which is why all the evil women are wearing sex inducing clothes to remind the eyes of the pleasure in the midst of her garden. Drugs, Money, Alcohol is not always desirable? All these even have been abused and "evilized" in so many ways. Go to Europe and see how people generate extacy artificially 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 12:47pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
nigeriansamurai: True! But that is the power of God that evil people can make a mistake that turns out to be good like it is exactly the White People who brought the bible that are also the ones who brought porn and drugs and Tafawa Balewa... |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by victorazy(m): 12:50pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: And Davido's lyrics "Sweet in the MIDDLE" Euphemism |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Indispensable85(m): 12:57pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Person just wake up begin write nonsense. So how were they supposed to multiply in accordance with the declaration of God, if sex was the forbidden fruit? Mtcheeeew..... 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:00pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
incogni2o: See yourself! coercion /kəʊˈəːʃn/ noun the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats Secondly, assessment of whether a thing is good and pleasurable and desirable to be consumed takes place before addiction so you are off Mark. So, face The Truth or live blocking it, I actually don't care for its your life or death and you know which one you want, so I leave. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:01pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:04pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Offpoint1: I like checking and investigating everything I hear so that I can defend it when asked to. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:13pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
erniok:************* theysg: Its simple. When we were young and we heard about marriage did we all not want to marry? But where we not stopped and told that we can only marry when it's time? Same thing here. God indeed Said they could procreate yet male Adam did not touch his wife till after Satan came. That clearly tells you that God had not yet approved their sex which in Law is called Consumation. And Consumation means eating. So everyone asking this same question here is my answer ooo. thank U! And for those who have experienced relationships, you would remember that this is how Satan always interferes with the relationship in trying to get the couples to either have sex with themselves or have sex with another person aka cheating. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by DaTruths: 1:18pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: How did God intend Adam and Eve to bear kids when he told them to go into the world and multiply? Were they supposed to multiply by surrogation? 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:22pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
DaTruths: I answered it above your comment. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by nigeriansamurai(m): 1:35pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:" can the evil seed bear good fruit? Never "... but i believe evil and good are only personal perspectives... |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by BadBradley: 1:35pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:you talk too much and like reading your madness in ink 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by BadBradley: 1:36pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Jokerman:the man has too much idle time on his hands |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by incogni2o: 1:37pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Coersion wasn't the right word. Your being addicted to sex doesn't mean everyone has the same struggle. Sex is a good, sweet and beautiful thing when in holy matrimony. As God made everything good and for good purpose. The will of Man can be coerced(for lack of a better word) to make evil out of it. More so, what draws Man to sex is the biological wirings to procreate, if not no Men may ignore it. God has put the urge there for a reason. Also, you generalising male and female having same struggles is a blatant Fallacy. A Woman seeing you naked will not draw her to you sexually. Again stubbornly and intentionally misinterpreting the Bible may not end well for you. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Truvelisback(m): 1:38pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
I'm really astonished about the things that get to Front Page these days. 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by BadBradley: 1:38pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:so great are your delusions that it also wows you 2 Likes |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by PHINAS2016(m): 1:44pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Well, no matter how twist that very passage might seem to the common man and no matter how sex might be considered as common still the fruit eaten by eve and Adam wasn't sex. Though many assumed that eve had sex with Satan and begot Cain but this totally disagree with the scripture. That was a literal but powerful fruit. I remember one fruit that is common in our village South South that if eaten causes every other thing eaten to taste sweet, even if u should take bitter leaf, it would taste sweet provided u first eat that fruit. Sex may be common but the sin of Adam and eve wasn't sex. It was after they were driven out of the garden was when Eve and Adam copulated and it resulted to Cain |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by erniok(m): 1:54pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:Brother, I can see you are here twisting the scriptures to suit your narrative just like bro. Branham. It's trying to second guess God's instructions that is man problem. God says what he means and means what he said. Just leave it at that. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by NNTR: 1:56pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:Smh, Satan isnt the serpent. Satan and the serpent are not synonyms for each other. Clear yourself with the distinction of what influence means Why havent you had Satan turn up yet to specially teach you how to have sex Dtruthspeaker:Smh, smh, now you're having a conjecture galore, so next is that whites are children of Satan. Yeah? What a dense thing to type, when the one of the sons of Noah, Japheth, which means white, beautiful, even God will enlarge him or may he extend, is an ancestor of the Whites Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by NNTR: 1:56pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Offpoint1:Hi, hey, please help Dtruthspeaker out with answering this easy, simple, harmless, straightforward question, that he is unequipped to deal with. Tell exactly what the action was, Adam did, that would single out, specifically, the ground be cursed on Adam's account, to the extent that the ground would transform to become uncooperative, difficult, tough, laborious, strenuous, back breaking et cetera work. Why was the ground, at a receiving end of it all? What act specifically, was it, aside copulation, that Adam did?. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by liveyourlife007(m): 2:11pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Eve was not the first woman created in the Bible. The first woman was Lilith, but she started to disobey God. So she was cursed. Let me give you an imaginative discription of how Lilith was. Lilith had a favourite pet, which was the snake, from the beginning Lilith was not like that, she was obedient, beautiful and very cool headed until the devil took control of her soul. It was Later that Eve was formed, from Adams rib, Lilith was created, not formed. So I'm going to use this narration as refrence to what is happening in our society today. You see all this girls you call hookup girls, you should stay away from them, I should be realistic with you, urges to have sex will come, we are humans, instead of sleeping with this daughters of jezebel, find one girlfriend. Sex is a powerful tool used by the devil to destroy destinies. If you remember the movie Karashika( auto correct is changing it Kardashians. Lol) there was a scene where a pastor was praying for her and the next thing she was romancing the pastor, touching him in his most sensitive parts . The man of God started saying in the name of Lucifer instead of in the name of Jesus. That's how powerful they are. In conclusion, 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2 Timothy 3:10-17 (KJV) But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. Happy Sunday and Happy New year in advance |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by LordReed(m): 2:18pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Dliespeaker talking about himself again. Bwahahahahahahaha! |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by Ahigbo1: 3:02pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Your claims aren't plausible enough. Having created man and women, they were charged by God to be fruitful and multiply. The eating of the forbidden fruit came after that episode. If not through intercourse, which other way were they supposed to be fruitful and multiply? Secondly, I don't think the connection between sex and having of knowledge holds sway. Anything one does at first instance, knowledge is gained through it, not just sex.... |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by SweetDipBenny(m): 3:02pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Moderator101:What about 24 Read Romans 3:24 |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by FireUpNow(m): 3:06pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=127583663]Look at it, sex is the only thing and place where we have restriction. Considering The Law in Genesis 2 before The Law in Exodus, we were free in all things eg we were free to eat food,, clothes, travel, relating with people from any tribe, cars, houses, animals etc But the only thing that we are not allowed to do is to have sex. The Commandment even Said "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And it is in sex that we tell our liitle children as they are growing "Do not let anybody touch you ooh" It is in sex we say "no dey touch my pikin like dat/i no like how you dey touch me" It is in sex and for sex that you will hear women say "if you touch me, you go die" It is in sex that touching is also cheating in marriage. And it is in sex thst you are not allowed to have sex outside your marriage quote] Dey play |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by 080bjaked(m): 3:17pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: lol, you interpreted the bible like it was written in Pigin "I don chop that woman" Ok, we can all agree that Moses wrote the first book of the bible and that's not the only place where sex was implied. Infact, Genesis spoke about intercourse than everyother book in the bible and in most places, it is written as "and he knew his wife" or as "And he went in to her" why would the same writer choose to use a fruit to symbolize it in Genesis 3? Also, if the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil is symbolic as you imply, then other things must also be symbolic right? Tree of life? fountain of the water of life in Revelation nko? Here is my conclusion, unless you are 100% certain it is the holy spirit that's implying these interpretations in your mind and in the light of the word of God, we just may be bordering on the edge of heresy and that's a strong weapon of the devil to derail us from the true mind of God. If we accept his argument that the tree is symbolic, then the enemy might go a step further to say heaven and hell aren't real but just symbolic. You get where I am going? May the light of God's word shine upon our hearts through the holy spirit. 1 Like |
Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by shunlet(m): 3:18pm On Dec 24, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: They ate sex eh?... |
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