I do not agree with this.

> Sex and fruits are different thing, because a region termed the word "chop" doesn't makes it a general agreement.

Aside that, the fruit is from the Tree of knowledge of good and evil

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman,
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the
garden’?”
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from
the trees in the garden,

"We may eat fruit from the trees" which tells you there are variations of edible entity within the region. "Fruits" are primarily product of trees (secondary: labour, living organisms or results from a previous activity)

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for
gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave
some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they
realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves
together and made coverings for themselves.

"They realized they were naked" ; to realize, to discover - is related to knowledge. Unlike humans, animals do not need to cover their unclothedness (shame or other reasons) as they do not possess such knowledge, wisdom or understanding as such.

They disobeyed God, which is considered evil - they are aware at this point as they are knowledgeable in this area. An

Notice they try hiding from God - (humans cannot be wiser than God). Sex didn't make them hide, neither did it give them the judgemental conscience of good and evil.

If it was sex, it would likely be stated as such "term" was not "hidden" in the bible. For example, " ESV Now Adam knew* Eve his wife, and she conceived
and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten a man with the help
of the LORD.” NIV Adam made love* to his wife Eve, and
she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain."

And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have
you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat
from?”

Why such questions? Remember the Lord's first question to man "where are you?" If you go further, you may deduce that someone without "such knowledge" may not respond with a correct answer. Obviously, they have been naked since with no shame as they do not KNOW what clothing mean.

God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful
and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.
Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky
and over every living creature that moves on the
ground.”

Not only man did God bless and tell them to multiply, he also instruct the animals to multiply... This multiplication doesn't concern itself with a tree in the garden.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are still talking about Catholic church.

now oga make i clear you... you cannot talk about christainity and the bible without the catholic church. Its like someone telling you about a movie without you ever watchin it... Most concept common in our various churches stems from a catholic doctrine... What im tryin to say is that without the catholic church there would be no trinity, no bible, no holy communion, no clergy strata, EVEN JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN A ONLY A PROPHET(Because he was dietified by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH) in our churches of today...

ukaface:
SMH

Na now Una just Dey know say na sex the bible been Dey talk about?

Una think say na apple? Dey play

Ah, sister you bin know say we no know before na as una no gree tell us.

Since forever, I notice say na only man say talk about dis Adam and Eve matter, una go just tight mouth and lock up like dat and nobody got open una .

Dat na one of the things wey make me say i must carry out dis investigation because I see say una know sumtin wey una no dey gree talk.

So I happy say you don confess.

Testimonies of former agents of Satan who are now Christians,
you are not here by chance, God brought you here to tell you something
read on to see what God want to tell you,

https://spiritreports..com/2018/10/false-ministers.html

Dtruthspeaker:


Which no one naturally saw as good to eat nor where they desirable like Chivita, Jollof rice and Hersheys chocolate.

People take these drugs and alcohol because they were forced and threatened by people who they thought could help them get of their poverty specifically the Whiteman devil who brought all these things and it was those who took these things that they promoted and took abroad and made them richer.

But now that their plan of destroying Africa is complete, now they have abandoned us and left us to be dying from these things.

So, no reasonable person found any of these things desirable nor good nor appealing.

But sex is always desirable and pleasurable to the eyes which is why all the evil women are wearing sex inducing clothes to remind the eyes of the pleasure in the midst of her garden.

So it's you who is resisting and fleeing from HARD TRUTHS!

No one forces anyone to take have sex, take Drugs or be corrupt.

It's more of coersion and temptation.

Again go ask people dealing with any form of addiction. The first illegitimate experience most times triggers the fall.

STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE . YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF UNDER A CURSE.

But sex is always desirable and pleasurable to the eyes which is why all the evil women are wearing sex inducing clothes to remind the eyes of the pleasure in the midst of her garden.

Drugs, Money, Alcohol is not always desirable?

All these even have been abused and "evilized" in so many ways.

Go to Europe and see how people generate extacy artificially

nigeriansamurai:
now oga make i clear you... you cannot talk about christainity and the bible without the catholic church. Its like someone telling you about a movie without you ever watchin it... Most concept common in our various churches stems from a catholic doctrine... What im tryin to say is that without the catholic church there would be no trinity, no bible, no holy communion, no clergy strata, EVEN JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN A ONLY A PROPHET(Because he was dietified by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH) in our churches of today...

True!

But that is the power of God that evil people can make a mistake that turns out to be good like it is exactly the White People who brought the bible that are also the ones who brought porn and drugs and Tafawa Balewa...

Dtruthspeaker:
And I see another code and clue,

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

What is in the fruit in the midst of a garden when a naked woman says it?

You people have even confessed the eating of a woman "I go chop dat women die"! Men, Nackson don chop dat babe finish.

Women have even confessed chopping the guy and people say "no be only you chop me, meself chop you. We chop ourselves"

And then we see God get very very angry with women that He rarely related with them and the He Punished her pregnancy, which is a direct result of eating that specific fruit. The only fruit in the world which is directly connected to pregnancy and birth.

And looking at how devils insist, promote and encourage people to be tucking up and down not minding the consequences, also points to its great importance in the scheme of things.

All the clues and signs we have been given and have seen with our eyes and heard with our ears clearly point to unlawful sex being the forbidden fruit.

And Davido's lyrics "Sweet in the MIDDLE"

Euphemism

Person just wake up begin write nonsense.

So how were they supposed to multiply in accordance with the declaration of God, if sex was the forbidden fruit? Mtcheeeew.....

incogni2o:


No one forces anyone to take have sex, take Drugs or be corrupt.

It's more of coersion and temptation.

Again go ask people dealing with any form of addiction. The first illegitimate experience most times triggers the fall.

STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE . YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF UNDER A CURSE.

See yourself!

coercion
/kəʊˈəːʃn/
noun
the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats

Secondly, assessment of whether a thing is good and pleasurable and desirable to be consumed takes place before addiction so you are off Mark.

So, face The Truth or live blocking it, I actually don't care for its your life or death and you know which one you want, so I leave.

victorazy:


And Davido's lyrics "Sweet in the MIDDLE"

Euphemism

Exactly.

In the midst of the garden.

Offpoint1:

Are you just waking to reality?

Twas sex eve had with the serpent, and went ahead to have sex with Adam at almost same/short interval... The result was her getting pregnant with twins of 2 fathers (science has proven this is possible countless times) Cain and Abel, Cain being the son of the serpent, while Abel son of Adam.

Do you know why Cain sacrifice was rejected? Now you can figure it out yourself.
Do you know why Cain was the violence one?
Know you can figure it out yourself.

There was a world before Adam and Eve, an extremely corrupted world. Adam and evil was like one trying to start all over again, but it still got bleeped up.

The world is filled with good and bad people because Cain went ahead to have offsprings, Adam and evil did same thing, hence we have that mixture of bad and good people today.


Ever wonder why one human can kill another human with zero remorse, while another human can't even gather the liver to kill a chicken? It was all from that incident

I like checking and investigating everything I hear so that I can defend it when asked to.

erniok:

When folks like you try to second guess the word of God, they come out with fleshy theories such as satan being the father of cain. If sex was the fruit, why then did the Lord tell them in gen1: 27,28 to multiply? Lemme hazard a guess, they were to do so by merely looking at each other abi?

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theysg:
.God had commanded man to multiply and fill the world before the serpent came to deceive eve. Sex was originally designed by God, for male and female to reproduce and multiply.

So how can sex be the forbidden fruit then?

Its simple.

When we were young and we heard about marriage did we all not want to marry?

But where we not stopped and told that we can only marry when it's time?

Same thing here.

God indeed Said they could procreate yet male Adam did not touch his wife till after Satan came.

That clearly tells you that God had not yet approved their sex which in Law is called Consumation. And Consumation means eating.

So everyone asking this same question here is my answer ooo. thank U!

And for those who have experienced relationships, you would remember that this is how Satan always interferes with the relationship in trying to get the couples to either have sex with themselves or have sex with another person aka cheating.

Dtruthspeaker:
Look at it, sex is the only thing and place where we have restriction.

Considering The Law in Genesis 2 before The Law in Exodus, we were free in all things eg we were free to eat food,, clothes, travel, relating with people from any tribe, cars, houses, animals etc

But the only thing that we are not allowed to do is to have sex.

The Commandment even Said "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And it is in sex that we tell our liitle children as they are growing "Do not let anybody touch you ooh"

It is in sex we say "no dey touch my pikin like dat/i no like how you dey touch me"

It is in sex and for sex that you will hear women say "if you touch me, you go die"

It is in sex that touching is also cheating in marriage.

And it is in sex thst you are not allowed to have sex outside your marriage.

How did God intend Adam and Eve to bear kids when he told them to go into the world and multiply?

Were they supposed to multiply by surrogation?

DaTruths:


How did God intend Adam and even to bear kids when told them to go into the world and multiply?

Were they supposed to multiply by surrogation?

I answered it above your comment.

Dtruthspeaker:


True!

But that is the power of God that evil people can make a mistake that turns out to be good like it is exactly the White People who brought the bible that are also the ones who brought porn and drugs and Tafawa Balewa...

" can the evil seed bear good fruit? Never "... but i believe evil and good are only personal perspectives...

Dtruthspeaker:


This is clearly a departure from the post. The post is on why the forbidden fruit is sex and not on the fact that people are carelessy and wrongfully carrying on with it as if they are in a buffet party

you talk too much and like reading your madness in ink

Jokerman:
Moreover God gave this commandment to them

"Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth"

So there was no restrictions and remember both were created as young adults, not children ...

So I don't think Sex is the forbidden fruit

the man has too much idle time on his hands

Dtruthspeaker:


See yourself!

coercion
/kəʊˈəːʃn/
noun
the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats

Secondly, assessment of whether a thing is good and pleasurable and desirable to be consumed takes place before addiction so you are off Mark.

So, face The Truth or live blocking it, I actually don't care for its your life or death and you know which one you want, so I leave.

Coersion wasn't the right word.

Your being addicted to sex doesn't mean everyone has the same struggle.

Sex is a good, sweet and beautiful thing when in holy matrimony.

As God made everything good and for good purpose.

The will of Man can be coerced(for lack of a better word) to make evil out of it.

More so, what draws Man to sex is the biological wirings to procreate, if not no Men may ignore it.

God has put the urge there for a reason.

Also, you generalising male and female having same struggles is a blatant Fallacy.

A Woman seeing you naked will not draw her to you sexually.

Again stubbornly and intentionally misinterpreting the Bible may not end well for you.

I'm really astonished about the things that get to Front Page these days.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are one of those who show how unintelligent and many bible reading and church going folks are and that they know nothing about Christianity. Fake Christians are they as you have proven.

For if I have twisted that scripture, you and others here would point out the twisting. But because you found that you could not counter, you therefore resorted to insults and abuse.

And of course the reason you are complaining is because you are a covert atheists deceiving himself that he is a christian and a whorè eater, so naturally you must hate hearing The Truth.

so great are your delusions that it also wows you

Well, no matter how twist that very passage might seem to the common man and no matter how sex might be considered as common still the fruit eaten by eve and Adam wasn't sex. Though many assumed that eve had sex with Satan and begot Cain but this totally disagree with the scripture. That was a literal but powerful fruit.
I remember one fruit that is common in our village South South that if eaten causes every other thing eaten to taste sweet, even if u should take bitter leaf, it would taste sweet provided u first eat that fruit.
Sex may be common but the sin of Adam and eve wasn't sex.
It was after they were driven out of the garden was when Eve and Adam copulated and it resulted to Cain

Dtruthspeaker:

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Its simple.

When we were young and we heard about marriage did we all not want to marry?

But where we not stopped and told that we can only marry when it's time?

Same thing here.

God indeed Said they could procreate yet male Adam did not touch his wife till after Satan came.

That clearly tells you that God had not yet approved their sex which in Law is called Consumation. And Consumation means eating.

So everyone asking this same question here is my answer ooo. thank U!

And for those who have experienced relationships, you would remember that this is how Satan always interferes with the relationship in trying to get the couples to either have sex with themselves or have sex with another person aka cheating.

Brother, I can see you are here twisting the scriptures to suit your narrative just like bro. Branham. It's trying to second guess God's instructions that is man problem. God says what he means and means what he said. Just leave it at that.

Dtruthspeaker:
From this, it clearly means that it was Satan the serpent who taught the world how to have sex and Bleep.

Smh, Satan isnt the serpent. Satan and the serpent are not synonyms for each other. Clear yourself with the distinction of what influence means

Why havent you had Satan turn up yet to specially teach you how to have sex

Dtruthspeaker:
(Damn the whites are children of Satan, no wonder they are greatly greatly evil and always planning what worser evil they can create.)

Smh, smh, now you're having a conjecture galore, so next is that whites are children of Satan. Yeah? What a dense thing to type, when the one of the sons of Noah, Japheth, which means white, beautiful, even God will enlarge him or may he extend, is an ancestor of the Whites

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Offpoint1:
Are you just waking to reality?

Twas sex eve had with the serpent, and went ahead to have sex with Adam at almost same/short interval... The result was her getting pregnant with twins of 2 fathers (science has proven this is possible countless times) Cain and Abel, Cain being the son of the serpent, while Abel son of Adam.

Do you know why Cain sacrifice was rejected? Now you can figure it out yourself.
Do you know why Cain was the violence one?
Know you can figure it out yourself.

There was a world before Adam and Eve, an extremely corrupted world. Adam and evil was like one trying to start all over again, but it still got bleeped up.

The world is filled with good and bad people because Cain went ahead to have offsprings, Adam and evil did same thing, hence we have that mixture of bad and good people today.

Ever wonder why one human can kill another human with zero remorse, while another human can't even gather the liver to kill a chicken? It was all from that incident

Hi, hey, please help Dtruthspeaker out with answering this easy, simple, harmless, straightforward question, that he is unequipped to deal with.

Tell exactly what the action was, Adam did, that would single out, specifically, the ground be cursed on Adam's account, to the extent that the ground would transform to become uncooperative, difficult, tough, laborious, strenuous, back breaking et cetera work. Why was the ground, at a receiving end of it all? What act specifically, was it, aside copulation, that Adam did?.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Eve was not the first woman created in the Bible. The first woman was Lilith, but she started to disobey God. So she was cursed.
Let me give you an imaginative discription of how Lilith was.

Lilith had a favourite pet, which was the snake, from the beginning Lilith was not like that, she was obedient, beautiful and very cool headed until the devil took control of her soul.

It was Later that Eve was formed, from Adams rib, Lilith was created, not formed.

So I'm going to use this narration as refrence to what is happening in our society today. You see all this girls you call hookup girls, you should stay away from them, I should be realistic with you, urges to have sex will come, we are humans, instead of sleeping with this daughters of jezebel, find one girlfriend.

Sex is a powerful tool used by the devil to destroy destinies. If you remember the movie Karashika( auto correct is changing it Kardashians. Lol) there was a scene where a pastor was praying for her and the next thing she was romancing the pastor, touching him in his most sensitive parts . The man of God started saying in the name of Lucifer instead of in the name of Jesus. That's how powerful they are.

In conclusion,

2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


2 Timothy 3:10-17 (KJV) But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Happy Sunday and Happy New year in advance

Dtruthspeaker:


See am? When Satan's son fails again then the next thing is to lie and change post!. Hahahahahaha. No Road Satan's son.

Dliespeaker talking about himself again. Bwahahahahahahaha!

Your claims aren't plausible enough. Having created man and women, they were charged by God to be fruitful and multiply. The eating of the forbidden fruit came after that episode. If not through intercourse, which other way were they supposed to be fruitful and multiply?
Secondly, I don't think the connection between sex and having of knowledge holds sway. Anything one does at first instance, knowledge is gained through it, not just sex....

Moderator101:


You are one among many other reasons why atheist view Christians to be schizophrenic patients.

You call yourself a truthspeaker but you twisted a scripture just to fit your own view.

You're a racist. You view yourself better than white people when in reality Romans 3:23 proves you wrong.

Keep deluding yourself.

What about 24 Read Romans 3:24

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=127583663]Look at it, sex is the only thing and place where we have restriction.

Considering The Law in Genesis 2 before The Law in Exodus, we were free in all things eg we were free to eat food,, clothes, travel, relating with people from any tribe, cars, houses, animals etc

But the only thing that we are not allowed to do is to have sex.

The Commandment even Said "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And it is in sex that we tell our liitle children as they are growing "Do not let anybody touch you ooh"

It is in sex we say "no dey touch my pikin like dat/i no like how you dey touch me"

It is in sex and for sex that you will hear women say "if you touch me, you go die"

It is in sex that touching is also cheating in marriage.

And it is in sex thst you are not allowed to have sex outside your marriage
quote]

Dey play

Dtruthspeaker:
Look at it, sex is the only thing and place where we have restriction.

Considering The Law in Genesis 2 before The Law in Exodus, we were free in all things eg we were free to eat food,, clothes, travel, relating with people from any tribe, cars, houses, animals etc

But the only thing that we are not allowed to do is to have sex.

The Commandment even Said "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

And it is in sex that we tell our liitle children as they are growing "Do not let anybody touch you ooh"

It is in sex we say "no dey touch my pikin like dat/i no like how you dey touch me"

It is in sex and for sex that you will hear women say "if you touch me, you go die"

It is in sex that touching is also cheating in marriage.

And it is in sex thst you are not allowed to have sex outside your marriage.

lol, you interpreted the bible like it was written in Pigin "I don chop that woman"
Ok, we can all agree that Moses wrote the first book of the bible and that's not the only place where sex was implied. Infact, Genesis spoke about intercourse than everyother book in the bible and in most places, it is written as "and he knew his wife" or as "And he went in to her" why would the same writer choose to use a fruit to symbolize it in Genesis 3?

Also, if the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil is symbolic as you imply, then other things must also be symbolic right? Tree of life? fountain of the water of life in Revelation nko?

Here is my conclusion, unless you are 100% certain it is the holy spirit that's implying these interpretations in your mind and in the light of the word of God, we just may be bordering on the edge of heresy and that's a strong weapon of the devil to derail us from the true mind of God.
If we accept his argument that the tree is symbolic, then the enemy might go a step further to say heaven and hell aren't real but just symbolic.
You get where I am going?
May the light of God's word shine upon our hearts through the holy spirit.

Dtruthspeaker:


They ate idols eh? If people say you are obviously a mad person like the guy you praised, you would get angry. Anyway, na your mouth

They ate sex eh?...