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Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 5:30pm On Jan 05
Maynman:

Hypocrite, you made mention of my parents first, and when I serve you the same dish, you started behaving unfortunate like your father.
Rapist, and a rapist and a murderer dad, you have a used and slacked whor.e as a mom

I dont care who started what...
I'm telling u the permanent arrangement btw us going forward.
U mention me we turn the thread into what happened on this page. Simple.
No holds barred.
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 5:31pm On Jan 05
SIRTee15:


I dont care who started what...
I'm telling u the permanent arrangement btw us going forward.
U mention me we turn the thread into what happened on this page. Simple.
No holds barred.
I'm just telling you that you can't play the victim here.

I will mention you and your FATHER anytime I want.

Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 5:36pm On Jan 05
Maynman:

I'm just telling you that you can't play the victim here.

I will mention you and your FATHER anytime I want.

That will help us expose your paedophilic father quickly.
I don't really care if your mum decides to make herself a community slut at old age, that's her business.
I'm more concerned about your fa.ggot father who has been busy molesting innocent children all these years.
He must end up in jail.
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 5:40pm On Jan 05
SIRTee15:


That will help us expose your paedophilic father quickly.
I don't really care if your mum decides to make herself a community slut at old age, that's her business.
I'm more concerned about your fa.ggot father who has been busy molesting innocent children all these years.
He must end up in jail.
You are a rapist so as your unfortunate father and I'm here to expose it that's why you are a slave to the Jewish god.
Your slacked and used mother has become a public toilet to everyone that's why she supports Virgins been raped
I don't think you can even make kids anymore, your father must have overused you, what I beg is not to adopt and rape the innocent child like your creator Yahweh Commanded.

Why are you still believing in yahweh, the imaginary child killer and rapist abi you want to defend your Jewish god

Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:51pm On Jan 05
SIRTee15:


The scientific evidence placed the earthquake at 31 +/- 5 AD.
You asking if the earthquake was b4 or after cruxifixion just expose your ignorance of archeological dating.
The magnitude and the after effect of the
earthquake is a matter subjective opinion. They
were not there to determine the damage of the
local earthquake.
But what we know is there was definitely an earthquake around the period of Christ cruxifixion.
Your highlighted only suggested the local earthquake wasn't serious enough to leave extant evidence or extra biblical record. Then they concluded Mathew inserted the story into the gospel.
However, Thallus who lived in the 30s AD and witnessed the event confirmed the earthquake happened on the eve of the Passover.

I already gave plausible explanation to the 3rd
event of that night - resurrection of saints.
You blindly ignored the part your article stated it was 31 ad or bc. Keep lying to yourself.
You also ignored my other posts including the facts that the earthquake was recorded BY ONLY MATTHEW and not other disciples.
None of the writers of the Bible were eye witness accounts. And Thallus definitely isn't an eye witness.
AND YOU IGNORE THE FACT THIS DISCOURSE IS ABOUT THE MASS RESURRECTION THAT PURPORTEDLY HAPPENED. NOT ABOUT THE EARTHQUAKE
Your efforts at distraction is noted cheesy
Re: Does God Exist? by SIRTee15: 5:56pm On Jan 05
jaephoenix:

You blindly ignored the part your article stated it was 31 ad or bc. Keep lying to yourself.
You also ignored my other posts including the facts that the earthquake was recorded BY ONLY MATTHEW and not other disciples.
None of the writers of the Bible were eye witness accounts. And Thallus definitely isn't an eye witness.
AND YOU IGNORE THE FACT THIS DISCOURSE IS ABOUT THE MASS RESURRECTION THAT PURPORTEDLY HAPPENED. NOT ABOUT THE EARTHQUAKE
Your efforts at distraction is noted cheesy

There were 2 earthquakes discussed. Read the article properly.
One in 31 BC during the reign of Herod the great which is well recorded in history and another one in the early 1st century AD.

I already discussed the resurrection story and about to make the 3rd part...why other gospel writers didn't report it.
Re: Does God Exist? by Emmanuel30a: 5:56pm On Jan 05
Maynman:

You are a rapist so as your unfortunate father and I'm here to expose it that's why you are a slave to the Jewish god.
Your slacked and used mother has become a public toilet to everyone that's why she supports Virgins been raped
I don't think you can even make kids anymore, your father must have overused you, what I beg is not to adopt and rape the innocent child like your creator Yahweh Commanded.

Why are you still believing in yahweh, the imaginary child killer and rapist abi you want to defend your Jewish god
Omo esu...
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 5:58pm On Jan 05
Emmanuel30a:
Omo esu...
hope you know esu is not Satan/devil?
Don't ridicule your tradition because of the Jewish tradition.
https://brittlepaper.com/2016/04/kola-ifa-interview/

Re: Does God Exist? by Emmanuel30a: 5:59pm On Jan 05
jaephoenix:

You blindly ignored the part your article stated it was 31 ad or bc. Keep lying to yourself.
You also ignored my other posts including the facts that the earthquake was recorded BY ONLY MATTHEW and not other disciples.
None of the writers of the Bible were eye witness accounts. And Thallus definitely isn't an eye witness.
AND YOU IGNORE THE FACT THIS DISCOURSE IS ABOUT THE MASS RESURRECTION THAT PURPORTEDLY HAPPENED. NOT ABOUT THE EARTHQUAKE
Your efforts at distraction is noted cheesy
Jao Felix?...
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 6:02pm On Jan 05
Thorrn:


Stop the cap cheesy.

Aemmyjah..., sorry. Dundeejah is a biologist??!

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My dear, the dvnce said he's a biologist. Environmental biologist. He hasn't said a word either on this thread or anywhere on Nairaland that shows he's one. Either he's a regular fraud or the poor educational system in the country has another victim

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 6:05pm On Jan 05
kkins25:


Let there be Monkeys... Kabooom! And there was Monkeys. Let there be Ants..... Kaboomm...

and the lord God saw that it was good. He got tired of naming them though. So he instructed Adam to name the rest...hahaha.
Aesop's Fables make better fiction than that

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Re: Does God Exist? by Emmanuel30a: 6:05pm On Jan 05
Maynman:
hope you know esu is not Satan/devil?
Don't ridicule your tradition because of the Jewish tradition.
https://brittlepaper.com/2016/04/kola-ifa-interview/
Get out, don't tells me about Leviathan, if you thinks you knows satan, did you knows Leviathan? Is your name Nathan, that's why you think you knows satan? And Leviathan? Maybe you are just like sultan or sound sultan of Sokoto/in Sokoto, that is why you don't knows satan let alone Leviathan... Nathan, don't tells me about satan; tells me about Leviathan... You don't knows satan, how can/how would you knows Leviathan?...
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 6:06pm On Jan 05
Aemmyjah:


What has reading and writing got to do with ones purpose?
You said one's purpose is gotten by reading the Babble. If someone is illiterate how is s/he gonna read it? What about deafs and blinds?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 6:08pm On Jan 05
Dtruthspeaker:


As long as you have just admitted that your point on videos and photos is dead then your other points don't exist.
Wtf?
What points did I make?
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 6:08pm On Jan 05
Emmanuel30a:
Get out, don't tells me about Leviathan, if you thinks you knows satan, did you knows Leviathan? Is your name Nathan, that's why you think you knows satan? And Leviathan? Maybe you are just like sultan or sound sultan of Sokoto/in Sokoto, that is why you don't knows satan let alone Leviathan... Nathan, don't tells me about satan; tells me about Leviathan... You don't knows satan, how can/how would you knows Leviathan?...
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Re: Does God Exist? by Emmanuel30a: 6:10pm On Jan 05
Maynman:

?
That's y I said you don't know what you said you knows...or thinks you knows...
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 6:12pm On Jan 05
Emmanuel30a:
That's y I said you don't what you said you knows...or thinks you knows...
You don't understand what you are talking about.
Leviathan or whatever sea monsters is a popular fairy tale in the East.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 6:16pm On Jan 05
Emmanuel30a:
That's y I said you don't know what you said you knows...or thinks you knows...
Basing your life on Jewish folklores think you are doing something.
All these stories are copied from other older sources .πŸ˜‚

Re: Does God Exist? by Emmanuel30a: 6:16pm On Jan 05
Maynman:

You don't understand what you are talking about.
Leviathan or whatever sea monsters is a popular fairy tale in the East.
Ode...
Re: Does God Exist? by Emmanuel30a: 6:18pm On Jan 05
[quote author=Maynman post=127795960] Basing your life on Jewish folklores think you are doing something. All these stories are copied from other s
Re: Does God Exist? by Maynman: 6:18pm On Jan 05
Emmanuel30a:
Ode...
Oponu, what are the sources of the book you are basing your life on?
Basing your life on Jewish myths πŸ˜‚
Man think he was saying something with levanthia or whatever πŸ˜‚

Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 6:18pm On Jan 05
Thorrn:


Pray tell, how could Wallace have possibly "fault(ed)" evolution when he was literally a pioneer of the theory, alongside Charles Darwin? Christ, you really are thicker than 2 short planks.



So apparently Wallace believed in spiritualism IE the existence of a spiritual realm beyond the physical world. Okay, good. Although I think it's funny how you're trying to use Wallace's personal ideologies to support your spurious claim to a higher creator deity. Three things here,

1, you commit the appeal to authority fallacy by hinging the validity of your claims on a passing remark made by Wallace. Why exactly should I care that Wallace believed in a higher mind? I could easily cite a number of even more credible scientists who confidently dismiss any notions of a supreme metaphysical being, and use their ideologies to justify my argument. You have no point here.

2, you are going down a very slippery slope by conflating science with religious beliefs. Science, as a process, is totally independent of the personal convictions, ideologies and bias of the individuals who engage in its practice. Wallace may have believed in a higher mind, but his belief is NOT justified by the theory of evolution. Many of Wallace's scientific propositions, including warning colouration and natural selection are widely accepted across the scientific community, since they have withstood subsequent scientific scrutiny and have become established scientific theories. However, many scientists refused to lend credence to his supernatural beliefs since they were untestable and therefore unscientific.

3, and this is the important bit: Wallace may have been a spiritualist, but he didn't believe in the Christian God and even rejected Christianity as a religion. He also rejected intelligent design. A seasoned scholar on the subject, Charles Smith, addressed this misconception of Wallace HERE. When asked if Wallace believed in Intelligent Design, he said, "No, no, and no--assuming that i.d. leans on the operation of first causes as Creationism does, that is. Don't fall for the facile understanding being promoted by some agenda-driven observers who argue that, just because Wallace was a spiritualist and believed that "higher intelligences" were influencing events here on earth, that he also believed in miraculous, non-law-based kinds of Godly intervention."

So basically, you're just running a fool's errand with this nonsensical argument.



I don't think you're lying here actually. I think you're just too stupid to understand how nuanced Wallace's perspectives towards reality were.



LMFAO @ "subtle mother of macroevolution" grin. Newsflash, dumbo: Abiogenesis is NOT evolution. It's a separate topic within biology and biochemistry. Secondly, and strictly speaking, Pasteur disproved spontaneous generation with his famous swan-neck experiment, not abiogenesis. You clearly don't know the difference. Finally, spontaneous generation is literally how things were created in the Bible if you read your precious book of Genesis very closely. Your imaginary sky daddy was just popping out random complex subjects, both living and non-living, out of thin air. Lol grin.



More bitter rants and tears from Dundeejah grin.



Ask a biologist. Evolution is not my business.



Ask a biologist. Evolution is not my business.



Why is the human eye vulnerable to dust and impact from very strong light? Why is our eyesight so terrible compared to bats? Why are bacteria and viruses more powerful than the human species given that certain ailments like cancer and HIV are totally incurable, or that COVID-19 almost threatened to wipe out the entire human race? How come only 20% of the Earth is inhabitable for human beings, and within the little are that is habitable, we constantly suffer tsunamis, pandemics, earthquakes, floods, droughts, global warming and tornadoes?

Oh I know the answer! It's InTeLLiGent dESigN!!!

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You don't think. You can't think. You only regurgitate bullshit you don't even understand. Pathetic dullard.



Ask a biologist. Evolution is not my business.



Gof? Who's Gof?

cheesy



Of course you'd make this spurious argument because you cannot decipher the difference between religion (unquestioned dogma) and science. Criticisms of scientific theories are commonplace within the scientific community. That's how science works, dumbo. Scientists collect data for research, carry out experiments and report their findings. These data are readily accessible to other scientists who can carry out the same experiments and attempt to falsify them. And that's where the strength of science lies: it subjects supposed facts to intense scrutiny to establish their veracity. Scientific knowledge is cumulative. It evolves through the process of scientists learning about, criticizing, and improving upon the previous works of scientists.

Religion on the other hand, makes allusions to absolute "truths" and are not open to change or growth. In fact, religion explicitly discourages anyone from honestly and objectively challenging the inherent beliefs that are considered sacred to said religion. For example, the case of Galileo being persecuted by the Catholic Church for his conception of a heliocentric solar system which directly contradicted the Church's belief in a flat Earth.

So long story short, Science establishes truth via thorough experiments, criticisms and continuous revision of theories. Whereas, religion establishes truth via indoctrination, blackmail and threats.



Bro, it took you 40 pages to finally realize I'm a girl after calling me a guy all along.

We don't think you're stupid.

We KNOW you're stupid.

Now that you've unwittingly gotten your dumb ass banned, I hope you spend the next 24 hours of your sorry life reflecting on your relentless stupidity, and come back a better man. In the meantime, I'll have to clean up this place. The stench of your illiteracy continues to linger on the thread, like a curry fart in an elevator grin grin.
To think a biologist doesn't know the difference between abiogenesis and evolution is mind-boggling. Crazy shocked

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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:08pm On Jan 05
jaephoenix:

You said one's purpose is gotten by reading the Babble. If someone is illiterate how is s/he gonna read it? What about deafs and blinds?

Tag me where I said one's purpose is gotten by reading the Bible
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:10pm On Jan 05
jaephoenix:

My dear, the dvnce said he's a biologist. Environmental biologist. He hasn't said a word either on this thread or anywhere on Nairaland that shows he's one. Either he's a regular fraud or the poor educational system in the country has another victim

Evidence has shown based on your comments that you are not a doctor, or a fake doctor or perhaps a gate an working in an hospital and claiming doctor...
Animal is my own interest but I changed towards environmental biology and worked on environment as my project

Unlike a doctor that knows nothing about childbirth
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:30am On Jan 06
jaephoenix:

To think a biologist doesn't know the difference between abiogenesis and evolution is mind-boggling. Crazy shocked

Abiogenesis is a proven scientific fact. Yes or No?

Why should a concept or an hypothesis be used to teach something as fact? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:51am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:


Abiogenesis is a proven scientific fact. Yes or No?

Why should a concept or an hypothesis be used to teach something as fact? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
Abiogenesis is a theory formerly taught in schools. There are many theories formerly taught and then chucked away after they have been found wanting. There was a time atoms were thought to be the smallest particles. Its why science always rediscovers itself. Nothing is written in stone. Every law, theory, fact is constantly perused to check if its true.
The opposite is religion which believes in dogma. What is accepted 500 years ago must be the same in 2024

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:52am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:


Tag me where I said one's purpose is gotten by reading the Bible
Oh, really? Please how does one determine his or her 'purpose'?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:06am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:


I'm not a retard
You are the retard for accepting what defies proven fact and logic


If abiogenesis is obsolete
Now, did life arose from inorganic matter?
Yes or No? Explain
For the fvckedly umpteenth time, we said we don't know the origin of man.
Actually, your Holy Babble stated that man was made from inorganic material. You gobbled it up without question and now you're here questioning abiogenesis, evolution etc
Really, you're cretarded beyond doubt
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:17am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:



You're just negatively sentimental
If you see a house with broken windows and pipes. It shows the house was never built by someone shey?

You're quoting from hearsays
I quoted what Wallace himself said
Should I quote what Wallace wrote to Darwin and Darwin's reply? πŸ˜‚

The catholic church was wrong
Bible says earth is spherical


You clearly need to educate yourself on spontaneous generation and abiogenesis... You don't even know basic sciences. Both are obsolete. Both are the same... Life cannot emerge from non-life, keep wallowing in ignorance


It's your type of intelligence that can believe that there was a nuclear explosion and Tokyo developed from it either instantaneously or spontaneously... If not, how can the earth and other planets and life emerge from a big bang (cosmic explosion)... You're highly delusional

Evolutionists says that mutation is also responsible for life... How? Mutation is far harmful than beneficial. How can it create something good... Poor critical thinker
DummyJah, you should return your cert (if indeed youre a biologist)
1. Please state the convo between Darwin and Wallace
2. The Catholic notion that the Earth was flat was gotten from the Babble. I have dropped the verses for you but you choose to believe differently. I hope u know it was the Catholic Church that gave rise to JW, so you're part of the error
3. Big Bang Theory was proposed by a priest. A Christian like you. And it does not imply that it gave rise to the universe. Please understand it.
4. No scientist said mutation gave birth to life. Mutation is a type of evolution whereby an organism changes itself to adapt and overcome challenges. And no scientists said evolution gave rise to life, dvmmy
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:32am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:


I laugh at you
All those who say earth is flat are Christians you say? πŸ˜‚
Your delusion is mighty
The bible itself already described the shape of the earth about 3000 years ago

If the Pope authorize that gay marriages be blessed whereas the Bible says something different or opposite. Does that discredit the Bible?

You mention something about people finding their own purpose
Yet we sometimes condemn or criticise others
If your child wants to find a purpose living as a serial killer or a terrorist... It seems that will make you happy right?
The bible explicitly say the Earth is flat.
How can we find purpose?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:44am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:



What does the Bible really say?

Psalms 104:5
5 He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved

Psalms 93:1
1 The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and armed with strength; indeed, the world is established, firm and secure

Psalms 75:3
3 When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm

Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

Isaiah 40:22
22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

Isaiah 11:12
12 He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth

1 Chronicles 16:30
30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved




Please show me where it said the earth is spherical or geoid in these verses?
What its saying is that the Earth has foundations
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 11:46am On Jan 06
Aemmyjah:


Evolution gave us sense of good and evil shey

Answer my question

If your child wants to find a purpose as a serial killer or terrorist. It is ok shey?

Your philosophy has left you with unreliable guidance
Keep wailing
You're just too stvpid or to ignorant to have a convo? Did anyone say evolution is related to morals?

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