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Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 7:09pm On Jan 11
Tallesty1:
We don't need this type of truth. Let SCOAN sue, it is that easy.
The child too should be forced to do a DNA test. Pastors always gives excuses and move on because there many like you who believe without thinking.

if your thinking faculty is working perfectly, why do they waited this long before spreading this ? Why can't they sue the man when he was alive if found guilty
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by ItShallPass: 7:23pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:


Why can't they sue the man when he was alive rather than propagating nonsense after his death

They've been propagating these things even while he was alive. Check Nairaland, you'll see complaints as far back as 2009 here.

They cannot sue TB Joshua. These are poor people who were not even teamed up. SCOAN has money and influence.

It's in the news that TB Joshua committed suicide when he heard that BBC has started interviewing his victims. He couldn't stay alive to face the truckload of worms that BBC would unearth.

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Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 7:25pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


That's some people for you!

Imagine someone accusing Abacha today after the man has been buried for the past 26 years and another man said:
"sue the accuser"
Can the person suing the accuser stand to defend the accusations of what he knew nothing about? undecided


Mentality of some people ehm, accusing someone after his death
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:

Mentality of some people ehm, accusing someone after his death

Even if the accusations are valid it's needless now that the accused can't defend himself! undecided
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by Benekkk: 7:42pm On Jan 11
Please leave this matter and go back to your Bible. Jesus is alive but every other dead person is dead - even Apostle Paul died. Only Jesus Christ can save you from your sins!
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by DaddyJapan(m): 7:59pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


Even if the accusations are valid it's needless now that the accused can't defend himself! undecided

Are you for real?

You don't think there are lessons to be learnt here. Or that we have an opportunity to frame new laws that protect the weak and impressionable in our society?

You don't think there is a case for his victims to be made as near-whole as possible, through restitution?
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by DaddyJapan(m): 8:00pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:



Mentality of some people ehm, accusing someone after his death

With your thought process, one might argue that you at still at an earlier stage of evolution.
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by DaddyJapan(m): 8:02pm On Jan 11
ItShallPass:


They've been propagating these things even while he was alive. Check Nairaland, you'll see complaints as far back as 2009 here.

They cannot sue TB Joshua. These are poor people who were not even teamed up. SCOAN has money and influence.

It's in the news that TB Joshua committed suicide when he heard that BBC has started interviewing his victims. He couldn't stay alive to face the truckload of worms that BBC would unearth.

Never mind his blinkered disciples
They all need a brain-reset. Cult-Daddy still has them in a stranglehold from beyond the grave (or self-imposed exile). cool

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Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by dazzlingd(m): 8:06pm On Jan 11
Laughnow419:


DNA test for person wey don rotten? grin

Sibling DNA tests are very accurate
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 8:12pm On Jan 11
DaddyJapan:


With your thought process, one might argue that you at still at an earlier stage of evolution.

Because your thinking faculty is faulty
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 8:13pm On Jan 11
MaxInDHouse:


Even if the accusations are valid it's needless now that the accused can't defend himself! undecided

Exactly
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 8:17pm On Jan 11
ItShallPass:


They've been propagating these things even while he was alive. Check Nairaland, you'll see complaints as far back as 2009 here.

They cannot sue TB Joshua. These are poor people who were not even teamed up. SCOAN has money and influence.

It's in the news that TB Joshua committed suicide when he heard that BBC has started interviewing his victims. He couldn't stay alive to face the truckload of worms that BBC would unearth.

They are poor people but human right is there to fight for them even if they are poor, law enforcement agencies are there, Media houses are there, why propagating nonsense after his death? You have no genuine excuse hidden under the fact that they are poor
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by sureway1(m): 9:07pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:


if your thinking faculty is working perfectly, why do they waited this long before spreading this ? Why can't they sue the man when he was alive if found guilty

I heard some of his cases open in ikoyi court, if you have a lawyer friend tell them to go and check... All this BBC documentary is a child's play to the reality... I was a kid when I started hearing of his attrocities..

Like someone already told... Instead of arguing blindly at least go to the area where the church is and make your research..

Interview like 10 people living in that area.. that's when you will know that BBC dey learn.. them no get info..

Have you even ask why all the fathers of faith in Nigeria distance themselves from him..

Have you asked why SCOAN is not in association of any Christian body in Nigeria..

What does the light has to do with darkness..

Go and check the pastors standing with TB Joshua.. Na them them..

You have the Bible, you understand English even if you don't have the spirit of discernment.... What are you looking especially when you are even seeing the mode of miracles in form of magic..

Just give Nigerians food.. if you like be devil.. they don't care...

This one doing damage control self how old was he when fatai started?

Since my primary school early 90s I have known TB Joshua for his atrocities...

And people have been reporting him since then..

You are hearing it now because of social media expecially if you are not in Lagos..


Before you quote me and argu.. go and interview people living in the area where the church is... Don't let them use nairaland to receive you...

Attached is a paper of mid 90s for the gullible once asking why they didn't expose him while he was alive.

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Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by Bbqekpa: 9:44pm On Jan 11
Iamicekid:
I don’t believe shit of a BBC interview or whatever they call it, until they can bring prove of how is countless giving to the poor, paying for surgery and he was the only pastor that flown food, bed, money and other things to Haiti during the earthquake then, that alone is enough for me to believe the man, kindness is my own religion and showing love to the poor even when u don’t need to

It doesn't matter what he does in his closet cos he his kind? You are a buffoon

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Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by ItShallPass: 10:11pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:


They are poor people but human right is there to fight for them even if they are poor, law enforcement agencies are there, Media houses are there, why propagating nonsense after his death? You have no genuine excuse hidden under the fact that they are poor

My friend, who fought for the families of the people who died when the SCOAN building collapsed? What justice did the dead receive? Are there no governments, no human rights, no law enforcement?

They've been talking against TB Joshua. Why didn't he sue them too?
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by DaddyJapan(m): 10:13pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:


Because your thinking faculty is faulty

Never mind, even I am prepared to admit that Cult-Daddy got away with his depraved predilections because he was so damn brazen and cunning.

Let's take the way he was successfully able to programme your mind eh? Cult-Daddy was a charity giving, evil-genius. I give him that much.

Some scholars argue that this rise in Pentecostal Christianity amounted to a kind of neo-imperialism. At a time when western financial institutions were imposing brutal austerity measures, western preachers came to Nigeria spreading a prosperity gospel that taught people they could pray their way out of poverty, and that the struggle that mattered was in the spiritual realm, not the political. Other scholars, such as the Nigerian theologian Ogbu Kalu, have paid more attention to the ways in which Nigerians have taken this form of doing church and made it serve their own needs. There are surely more benevolent examples of Nigerian Pentecostalism than TB Joshua, but he does nothing if not exemplify this creativity.

Nigerians often lament the ways in which their country’s abundance of natural resources has failed to translate into lasting prosperity: how they export raw materials such as petroleum and palm oil, only to buy them back from abroad in expensive refined form. Joshua’s trickster genius lay in the way he took the raw materials of western Christianity and transformed them into something to sell back to the west.
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/09/tb-joshua-scoan-church-divisive-nigerian-pastor-global-following
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 10:59pm On Jan 11
DaddyJapan:


Never mind, even I am prepared to admit that Cult-Daddy got away with his depraved predilections because he was so damn brazen and cunning.

Let's take the way he was successfully able to programme your mind eh? Cult-Daddy was a charity giving, evil-genius. I give him that much.


Source: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/09/tb-joshua-scoan-church-divisive-nigerian-pastor-global-following

At least he was successful than all your ancestors
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 11:02pm On Jan 11
ItShallPass:


My friend, who fought for the families of the people who died when the SCOAN building collapsed? What justice did the dead receive? Are there no governments, no human rights, no law enforcement?

They've been talking against TB Joshua. Why didn't he sue them too?

Do they sue the man after the incident? Even if they are poor as you said why can't they consult human right or any agency to fight for them
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by DaddyJapan(m): 11:06pm On Jan 11
AgentNairaland:


At least he was successful than all your ancestors

My ancestors were pacesetters, you dimwittt. But even if they weren't, they certainly have no documented history that locates them as rapists, liars, money-launderers, kidnappers, murderers et al.

I can see what your lineage looks like though. After all, we can tell from your choice of friends...and/or Cult-Daddy,
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by jimmychang: 11:10pm On Jan 11
Courz:
Something I just noticed in this TB Joshua matter. His followers are called disciples of his. Not disciples of Jesus. But disciples of TB Joshua. This means that what one of the eyewitnesses in the BBC documentary said is true. He said TB Joshua told him that every 2000 years, a new Messiah shows up. And that He TB Joshua is the new Messiah replacing Jesus. And this is a typical Antichrist. This means that this SCOAN Cult isn't a Christian movement. It is truly a Cult with TB Joshua being their Messiah. No wonder SCOAN members don't worship God or follow Christ. It is an Antichrist movement. They worship TB Joshua. Now I understand why they are desperately opening several threads here. Just observe how the members speak or read what they type online. These people are not followers of Christ.


This is stupid ooh.You that is screaming God of Apostle Johnson Suleiman,God of Oyedepo,how are you different.
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 11:12pm On Jan 11
sureway1:


I heard some of his cases open in ikoyi court, if you have a lawyer friend tell them to go and check... All this BBC documentary is a child's play to the reality... I was a kid when I started hearing of his attrocities..

Like someone already told... Instead of arguing blindly at least go to the area where the church is and make your research..

Interview like 10 people living in that area.. that's when you will know that BBC dey learn.. them no get info..

Have you even ask why all the fathers of faith in Nigeria distance themselves from him..

Have you asked why SCOAN is not in association of any Christian body in Nigeria..

What does the light has to do with darkness..

Go and check the pastors standing with TB Joshua.. Na them them..

You have the Bible, you understand English even if you don't have the spirit of discernment.... What are you looking especially when you are even seeing the mode of miracles in form of magic..

Just give Nigerians food.. if you like be devil.. they don't care...

This one doing damage control self how old was he when fatai started?

Since my primary school early 90s I have known TB Joshua for his atrocities...

And people have been reporting him since then..

You are hearing it now because of social media expecially if you are not in Lagos..


Before you quote me and argu.. go and interview people living in the area where the church is... Don't let them use nairaland to receive you...

Attached is a paper of mid 90s for the gullible once asking why they didn't expose him while he was alive.

If his cases are there in the court of law, those that sue him why can't they pursue the case to the very end where justice will be served?

Is it only human right that is there in fighting for a poor man like you? You have many government agencies and NGO's that can help a poor man like you in getting justice, why not proceed meeting anyone of them to help you fighting this man when he was alive
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 11:29pm On Jan 11
DaddyJapan:


My ancestors were pacesetters, you dimwittt. But even if they weren't, they certainly have no documented history that locates them as rapists, liars, money-launderers, kidnappers, murderers et al.

I can see what your lineage looks like though. After all, we can tell from your choice of friends...and/or Cult-Daddy,


Your great-grand father was a rapist ask from your dad

Your generation believe in propaganda just as you want die on top TB Joshua matter and it is his matter that will send you to grave
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by Courz: 11:34pm On Jan 11
jimmychang:



This is stupid ooh.You that is screaming God of Apostle Johnson Suleiman,God of Oyedepo,how are you different.

This is also stupid too. For you to say I scream God of Suleiman or Oyedepo. How do you know I did that? Do you know me from anywhere? Are you daft or something? Who told you I worship in those churches? Stop being a dunce.
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by themainman600(m): 11:52pm On Jan 11
Kenneth4u205:
Summary of the video
(1) He(Joseph David) was the first disciple of tb Joshua and was there when the other disciples came and left scoan. He is the most senior disciple and trustee of scoan
(2) AJOKE was not the biological daughter of tb joshua.she was a few days old baby abandoned at scoan.tb Joshua reported the case to police station but her parents never came forth. So tb Joshua decided to adopt her as his daughter.the records is still in scoan archive and police station.
(3) ANGELIC that claimed that tb Joshua tape her actually fell in love with a fellow disciple but tb Joshua did not approve of the relationship. So she got offended and left scoan.she came back many years later with a hidden camera and started screaming rape at scoan gate .

(4)AGOMO PAUL was sent to Ghana to oversee scoan branch in ghana.he went there and fell in love with a chief daughter in Ghana.The lady later died and he blamed TB Joshua for her death and left scoan.

(5) Rachel that claimed that tb Joshua masturbated on her was a lesbian. She was always trying to sleep with female disciples at scoan and after multiple rebuke from tb Joshua ,she left scoan

(5) BISOLA has always been a rebellious lady at scoan. She finds it difficult to obey the disciples law at scoan. She left multiple times but her mother always brings her back .video of her her rebellion is still in the scoan archive.

Children of God ,all the ex disciples featured in the BBC documentary are aggrieved people that decided to lie against the very man that raised them up . The same way satan is lying against God today after spending billions of year's in heaven with God .

(1)Watch the full video of what disciple Joseph David has to say :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRApZomObUY?si=UqBSfokQMeav9bcR

(2) watch the full video of what Wiseman harry has to say :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYhLEnlCQ4?si=C4-d7K2aGwMo8aOR

(3) watch the full video of what apostle John chi has to say :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI7r_W_gOLU?si=2dVEnmrIDMRCQApD
why you dense laidis forming woke?

I saw what you did

Steps in taking controversies away

1. Discredit the witness
2. Create a new motive
3. Divert the witness motive

wink cheesy I know your game once again FVCK u
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by Iamicekid(m): 2:39am On Jan 12
Bbqekpa:


It doesn't matter what he does in his closet cos he his kind? You are a buffoon

If you ain’t the fool, have you asked why they didn’t release the documentary when he was alive and the people in the claimed documentary are all people from the past that has one problem with him or the other cause they somehow don’t have there way, why didn’t all the people in the church now come out atleast he is dead if you wan claim they are scared but it’s all the people from the past, most cause they didn’t get what they wanted from him it’s so damn glaring
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by Bbqekpa: 4:31am On Jan 12
Iamicekid:


If you ain’t the fool, have you asked why they didn’t release the documentary when he was alive and the people in the claimed documentary are all people from the past that has one problem with him or the other cause they somehow don’t have there way, why didn’t all the people in the church now come out atleast he is dead if you wan claim they are scared but it’s all the people from the past, most cause they didn’t get what they wanted from him it’s so damn glaring

It holds no water whether he's dead or aliive. Think with your head. The stories were consistent with activities/ happenings in scoan. You are just a sheeple and an enabler. Again, would you say same if he did it to your sister?
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by ItShallPass: 7:30am On Jan 12
AgentNairaland:


Do they sue the man after the incident? Even if they are poor as you said why can't they consult human right or any agency to fight for them

Maybe you should have suggested human rights to them if it has escaped their minds. But at least they went to BBC while Joshua was alive. The BBC investigation started when the false prophet was alive. The false prophet committed suicide few days after he heard that BBC was investigating him. He should have waited for his humiliation.

Now, let SCOAN sue BBC if they're bold enough. BBC has claimed they have overwhelming evidence against TB Joshua.
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by LordTheus(m): 8:31am On Jan 12
Kenneth4u205:
Summary of the video
(1) He(Joseph David) was the first disciple of tb Joshua and was there when the other disciples came and left scoan. He is the most senior disciple and trustee of scoan
(2) AJOKE was not the biological daughter of tb joshua.she was a few days old baby abandoned at scoan.tb Joshua reported the case to police station but her parents never came forth. So tb Joshua decided to adopt her as his daughter.the records is still in scoan archive and police station.
(3) ANGELIC that claimed that tb Joshua tape her actually fell in love with a fellow disciple but tb Joshua did not approve of the relationship. So she got offended and left scoan.she came back many years later with a hidden camera and started screaming rape at scoan gate .

(4)AGOMO PAUL was sent to Ghana to oversee scoan branch in ghana.he went there and fell in love with a chief daughter in Ghana.The lady later died and he blamed TB Joshua for her death and left scoan.

(5) Rachel that claimed that tb Joshua masturbated on her was a lesbian. She was always trying to sleep with female disciples at scoan and after multiple rebuke from tb Joshua ,she left scoan

(5) BISOLA has always been a rebellious lady at scoan. She finds it difficult to obey the disciples law at scoan. She left multiple times but her mother always brings her back .video of her her rebellion is still in the scoan archive.

Children of God ,all the ex disciples featured in the BBC documentary are aggrieved people that decided to lie against the very man that raised them up . The same way satan is lying against God today after spending billions of year's in heaven with God .

(1)Watch the full video of what disciple Joseph David has to say :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRApZomObUY?si=UqBSfokQMeav9bcR

(2) watch the full video of what Wiseman harry has to say :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYhLEnlCQ4?si=C4-d7K2aGwMo8aOR

(3) watch the full video of what apostle John chi has to say :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI7r_W_gOLU?si=2dVEnmrIDMRCQApD

.....All of which are bald claims bereft of any actual evidence.
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 10:37am On Jan 12
ItShallPass:


Maybe you should have suggested human rights to them if it has escaped their minds. But at least they went to BBC while Joshua was alive. The BBC investigation started when the false prophet was alive. The false prophet committed suicide few days after he heard that BBC was investigating him. He should have waited for his humiliation.

Now, let SCOAN sue BBC if they're bold enough. BBC has claimed they have overwhelming evidence against TB Joshua.



You should have suggested to them human right since they are poor like you.

If they went to BBC when the man was alive, why didn't BBC released the story they are propagating now? Even after his death, it took BBC THREE YEARS after his demise to release their propaganda when they know the dead can't defend himself right? You are all bunch of lunatic, rascal, silly for propagating what the accuser in grave can't defend


He committed suicide according to your stupidity right? You people are just too dense, gullible and moroon to be arguing with on the matter of TB Joshua that will send you all to grave sooner or later
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by ItShallPass: 10:41am On Jan 12
AgentNairaland:



You should have suggested to them human right since they are poor like you.

If they went to BBC when the man was alive, why didn't BBC released the story they are propagating now? Even after his death, it took BBC THREE YEARS after his demise to release their propaganda when they know the dead can't defend himself right? You are all bunch of lunatic, rascal, silly for propagating what the accuser in grave can't defend


He committed suicide according to your stupidity right? You people are just too dense, gullible and moroon to be arguing with on the matter of TB Joshua that will send you all to grave sooner or later

I never knew I was speaking with a mad man until I saw this rabid rant like that of a mad dog.

Sorry dog, you don't deserve any response from men like me.
Re: TB Joshua Disciples And wisemen Speaks by AgentNairaland(f): 1:52pm On Jan 12
ItShallPass:


I never knew I was speaking with a mad man until I saw this rabid rant like that of a mad dog.

Sorry dog, you don't deserve any response from men like me.

Again, it is TB Joshua matter that will send you all his accusers to grave for waiting this long before propagating nonsense after his death.

No video evidence, no audio evidence to back up your claim against this late man and you want sane people to take you serious. YOU'RE ALL BUNCH OF LUNATIC, SILLY, DENSE, etc set of people

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