Ikinternational:


Shut up punk. With your gingivitis filled gums

Gingivitis filled gum? What a dunce! 🤣🤣🤣.

Gingivitis is a gum that is inflamed. So, which one is gingivitis filled gum? So I have gingivitis (inflammed gum) filled gums? Does it make sense to you? Ode! 🤣🤣

Your people are known to be disrespectful to their seniors and elders. It is a known fact.

naptu2:
Any governor can remove any traditional ruler. They have the constitutional power to do so.

You see, the fact is that all the kingdoms and societies in what is now Nigeria were conquered by the colonialists and the colonialists handed power to the Nigerian state and this means that the state (represented by the governor) has power over all the monarchs in Nigeria.

This is why all recognised first class traditional rulers (including the Oba of Benin and the Obi of Onitsha) receive their staff of office from the governor.

However, there's something else you need to consider. A traditional ruler might be loved by his people and removing him might lead to problems.

But still, there have been governments in Nigeria that have braved riots and gone ahead to remove traditional rulers. Let's look at some examples.

Sir Siddiqi Abubakar was the Sultan of Sokoto from the 1930s till 1988. My dad used to ask, "Why are they making this man suffer"? That's because he was very old. You should have seen him at the time that Buhari or Babangida visited him. He was old and infirm. He couldn't deliver a speech. He would tell someone (standing beside his throne) what he wanted to say and the person would then say it out loud for everybody to hear. My dad said that they should have allowed him to rest.

He and Ahmadu Bello had trained a lot of people that later became senior civil servants and military leaders and they all revered him. He was the most powerful traditional ruler in Nigeria at that time.

Sir Siddiqi died in 1988 and everybody expected that his son, Mohammed Maccido, would be turbaned as the new Sultan, but shockingly, the government announced that Alhaji Ibrahim Dasuki, a member of the Donation Circuit (and a friend of Babangida), had been selected as the new Sultan. There were massive riots in Sokoto. Lots of soldiers and policemen were brought in to stop the riots and many people died.

Still, Dasuki reigned as Sultan until 1996 when General Abacha deposed him and installed Mohammed Maccido, the son of Sir Siddiqi, as Sultan. There was jubilation in Sokoto when Dasuki was removed.




I repeat (for emphasis), Rimi lost the election.

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Traditional rulers have been barred from getting involved in partisan politics since the advent of military rule. However, in 1991, the late Oba of Benin, Oba Erediauwa, made it very clear that he was supporting Chief John Odigie Oyegun to be governor of Edo State and that he did not want Lucky Igbinedion to be governor. Oyegun eventually won the election.

Lucky Igbinedion also contested the 1999 Edo governorship election and once again the Oba made it clear that he didn't want Igbinedion to win (he was supporting Lucky Imasuen of the APP). This time, the military governor, Navy Captain Anthony Ibe Onyearugbulem was not happy about the Oba's incursion into partisan politics. He suspended the Oba of Benin and proposed that the chairmanship of the Edo Council of Chiefs should be rotated among traditional rulers in the state.

However, the Palace later issued a statement that the Oba was not involved in partisan politics. Many senior people in society also mediated in the dispute and the governor rescinded the suspension and apologised to the Oba.

the same onyearugbulem did same thing in ondo. And later died a very useless death

EreluRoz:
He can dethrone him, he should thread carefully.

you think Onitsha is like your village

lilytender:


Chukwuma Soludo's multiplied by 1000 cannot do that

Any Governor can Impeach any King wether First Class, Second Class or Third Class. Do you know who a Governor is? Lmao. Just one letter from the state Government House and the King is removed!

Wetin dem no talk about Ganduje vs Sanusi Wetin come Sup last

The Governor is the 001 of a state. In fact the State Government owns all the lands in their respective states in Nigeria. He can lock up that palace and nothing will happen.

Governor?? ?? ?? ?

Ndibunna:


Please Anambra is not in the league of your community that is headless.

Traditional institution existed in Anambra communities before the arrival of the Whiteman.

Nnewi alone has a long standing stool even before British set foot in Nigeria and it has been like that till this day

Am from Anambra State. What exactly do you call a stool. Stool translates to Okwa, which simply means having a role, not kingship. There was nothing like Igwe any where, except for Onitsha people who claim to come from Benin with their Obi. Go and ask your elders for the truth. There were titled men, but they were not kings. Within the Ozo, NZe or Someother Stock grouping, there was the highest titled Man who led procedures and rituals, as well as decision making. Some time two or three man were equally titled and they countered each other. But there was no king.

Where the British won such men, they gave them armed police and called them warrant Chiefs. Where such leaders opposed the British, which was the case in most communities, they looked for the most Dubious Character in the community and gave him armed police and named him warrant chief to oppose the real community leadership. This is captured well in the story of things fall apart by Chinue Acheba.

Igbos are republican, every man had his say, even though all men were not equal. No man was appointed a king by the people. Rather you level of title determined your political role, stool or Okwa. Power was shared, not a monarchy.

YourGFsnatcher:


This is a great suggestion. A very succinct suggestion.
But as for my personal take, it will all end in the same way. Leadership in Africa from the grassroot is just too self centred. Believe me, which ever method you bring these people will always find a way of embezzlement. On a normal level, the three arms of government we have are supposed to check each other and hold each other responsible. But once they reach there they are all one irrespective of region. Their only mission is to embezzle as much as they can, together.

I don't know why Africans once they attain a position, looting and intimidation is the first thing that comes to their mind. They will become so far to the people u won't recognise them again.

It's a brilliant suggestion, but personally, I believe they will still come together to embezzle

Bros, it's because there is no definition of powers and roles. President wants to act as Kings. Local Kings are referencing whole states as their dominion, Governors are stringing traditional rulers, giving them unconstitutional roles in other to use them for elections. Even Nigeria as a country is neither running the presidential system which is based on confederacy, nor the parliamentary system. Rather a cocktail that makes the president so powerful without counter checks. So the system was designed by the British for looting. That's why our leaders are still looting to this day, and our police is primarily protecting the looters as the British designed them.

GerogeI:


Bros, it's because there is no definition of powers and roles. President wants to act as Kings. Local Kings are referencing whole states as their dominion, Governors are stringing traditional rulers, giving them unconstitutional roles in other to use them for elections. Even Nigeria as a country is neither running the presidential system which is based on confederacy, nor the parliamentary system. Rather a cocktail that makes the president so powerful without counter checks. So the system was designed by the British for looting. That's why our leaders are still looting to this day, and our police is primarily protecting the looters as the British designed them.

That's true. The system is protecting the looters backed up Europeans. We need a new system

Amayabor1:


Gingivitis filled gum? What a dunce! 🤣🤣🤣.

Gingivitis is a gum that is inflamed. So, which one is gingivitis filled gum? So I have gingivitis (inflammed gum) filled gums? Does it make sense to you? Ode! 🤣🤣

Your people are known to be disrespectful to their seniors and elders. It is a known fact.

If I have to tell you shut up one more time, you go learn the hard way

Ikinternational:




If I have to tell you shut up one more time, you go learn the hard way

You will teach him a lesson by filling his gum with gingivitis?

EEIA:

You will teach him a lesson by filling his gum with gingivitis?

English professors oya ....

How does gums get inflamed WITHOUT something being INSIDE 🤔😒🤦🏾‍♂️

Gingivitis=Bacteria


A dentist is your friend 🤢


Trolling is cute
But a direct answer will suffice
Oya talk 🙄

Ikinternational:



English professors oya ....

How does something get inflamed WITHOUT being INSIDE 🤔😒🤦🏾‍♂️


A dentist is your friend 🤢

Jesus, I thought that guy was joking. so its true. 😂

which school you attend? 😂

EEIA:

Jesus, I thought that guy was joking. so its true. 😂

which school you attend? 😂

Answer..... nevermind the trolling

Ikinternational:




Answer..... nevermind the trolling

International Ikechukwu indeed 🤣

EEIA:

International Ikechukwu indeed 🤣

Exactly... As if your teeth has ever meet a scalpel 🙄

Troll on mate

Ikinternational:



Exactly... As if your teeth has ever meet a scalpel 🙄

Troll on mate

Ikechukwu I know your english is DEVELOPED. 😌

don’t mind that guy.

No trolling.

EEIA:
Ikechukwu I know your english is DEVELOPED. 😌

don’t mind that guy.

No trolling.

You're confused.......but it is well
I don't mind sarcasm

Ikinternational:



You're confused.......but it is well
I don't mind sarcasm

Ikechukwu which state are you from?

iHateFraudsters:
See people saying that Soludo can dethrone the Obi of Onitsha.

On paper? Yes.

But ... Who dash monkey banana 🍌?

Remember the revered Emir
Political power can mess you up if they chose and damn the consequences

Villagesquare:

Remember the revered Emir
Political power can mess you up if they chose and damn the consequences

I'm talking about the Obi of Onitsha, you're talking about the Emir.

Are they the same thing?

Emir can be removed, Obi cannot.

GerogeI:



Am from Anambra State. What exactly do you call a stool. Stool translates to Okwa, which simply means having a role, not kingship. There was nothing like Igwe any where, except for Onitsha people who claim to come from Benin with their Obi. Go and ask your elders for the truth. There were titled men, but they were not kings. Within the Ozo, NZe or Someother Stock grouping, there was the highest titled Man who led procedures and rituals, as well as decision making. Some time two or three man were equally titled and they countered each other. But there was no king.

Where the British won such men, they gave them armed police and called them warrant Chiefs. Where such leaders opposed the British, which was the case in most communities, they looked for the most Dubious Character in the community and gave him armed police and named him warrant chief to oppose the real community leadership. This is captured well in the story of things fall apart by Chinue Acheba.

Igbos are republican, every man had his say, even though all men were not equal. No man was appointed a king by the people. Rather you level of title determined your political role, stool or Okwa. Power was shared, not a monarchy.

Long story without knowing the history of towns and communities equals someone reading epistles in Google's. Whereas I specifically named a town in Anambra, all you have to do is to go and verify his accurately not kind of reciting things fall apart for me here which is what most of you guys who have no deep knowledge of various town historical lines do. It's a pity.

You should have realised you have no validation even most of these histories have been discussed here and laid to rest years ago.

You can as well use nairaland as your research tool. Thank you.

Ikinternational:




If I have to tell you shut up one more time, you go learn the hard way

🤣😂😂😂.

Ozuor 🤣😂😂

EEIA:

Ikechukwu which state are you from?

Ikenna...... Mighty Onitsha guy man
Big Boy Anambra State

Governor Chukwuma Soludo Meets With Traditional Rulers

https://www.nairaland.com/7979570/governor-chukwuma-soludo-meets-traditional