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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:50pm On Feb 05
Based on what na? Eye test?

charlesemeka85:
Sadiq is better than Onuachu abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:51pm On Feb 05
You when no dey watch match.
Jpes dey shine before he come naija ni? lol 😂


Mod

Kai I mistake u for Charles.

I was a big Rohr critic at some point when he stopped delivering the goods. It was apparent he had nothing more to offer. But many were emotional living in the past. It’s really easy to be objective. Just observe and say what you see. Is Osimhen instrumental to our success so far? A big yes m. Is he missing chances he should be burying? A capital yes! Both truth can coexist. Does Moffi, KC have something to offer? A capital yes. Why shouldn’t they play when Osimhen is obviously tired and cannot offer much in the game. People act like once u give KC the liscemse to kill the game suddenly our defense will fall flat. I


Mujtahida:

😂😂 Just like in the future when Jpes fade, you go say you found him out long time ago. If e happen like that, we go clap for you.

But in the here and now, all that matters na make we win this tournament. Many people know the coach's limitations but now that we have climbed this iroko tree, we must come down with all the firewood we need.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:09am On Feb 06
Joebie:
You when no dey watch match.
Jpes dey shine before he come naija ni? lol 😂
I no get zest to watch league football. I have outgrown it. And doesn't mean I am oblivious of what is going on. But whether I watch or not is entirely besides the point.

What matters now is victory at this Afcon for the nation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:27am On Feb 06
Joebie:
You when no dey watch match.
Jpes dey shine before he come naija ni? lol 😂


Mod

Kai I mistake u for Charles.

I was a big Rohr critic at some point when he stopped delivering the goods. It was apparent he had nothing more to offer. But many were emotional living in the past. It’s really easy to be objective. Just observe and say what you see. Is Osimhen instrumental to our success so far? A big yes m. Is he missing chances he should be burying? A capital yes! Both truth can coexist. Does Moffi, KC have something to offer? A capital yes. Why shouldn’t they play when Osimhen is obviously tired and cannot offer much in the game. People act like once u give KC the liscemse to kill the game suddenly our defense will fall flat. I


I started calling out Rohr just immediately before the WC 2018. I too, I have the eye and mind to think objectively and critically. All I'm saying is that make we win. That's my concern. Any complaints that is about pointing out present defects in this tournament for the purpose of saying - in the future - I told you so, no be am for me. There's a time for everything. Tournaments are celebratory events when your team wins. So you celebrate.

Naija go win match, you no fit enjoy am because you want to be objective and critical. Oho na suffer be that oo cos when we win, you complain, when we lose you complain. Double wahala for complainant. When you go enjoy na?

What you guys seem to want is that kind of unrealistic expectation where SE dominates like how we spank Cameroun 4-0.

Jpes don hack this thing. I knack you one zero. I prevent you from scoring. I win. Whether I sub Osimhen, or not, play Moffi or not. I don win.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:31am On Feb 06
Joebie:
Based on what na? Eye test?

u sabi watch ball?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by talk2docee: 1:20am On Feb 06
Dannyxy:
Osimhen has been poor yen yen, I pray he recovers, because Omoh, just his name alone, deflates your opponents confidence by 50%.

I wonder how some people analyze football, whether Messi or Ronaldo is scoring or not, them being on the pitch gives their team an edge, and that’s what osimhen does, who born any defender to calm down pass ball or calculate long passes with osimhen around, that’s the fear factor, and that’s why we have been edging other teams.

I can only pray he recovers, because if osimhen doesn’t play , lol, we might win, but that percentage just went down…

Well said boss..... But at the bolded..... Hmmmmm if Osimhen doesn't play... Nigeria should forget winning! Quote me anywhere!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by talk2docee: 1:51am On Feb 06
komekn:


Stopped being OTT and overcome with emotive sentiment.

Moffi is not underperforming in his league and club and neither is VO.

The striker's primary responsibility is to score anything else is an advantage. VO is struggling to score, Moffi should be given a chance to show what he can do .

At least for the first half and if he scores them he stays and takes the accolades.

As it stands AFCON defender have got VO marked and he is struggling to score one goal in 5 games is not good for him or the SE.

So is it at this stage... The coach should be making 'try and error'? what are friendly matches and group matches meant for?
Osimhen is not injured, you want to bring in Moffi? All because he has not scored more goals as a striker? He contributed to all the goals scored in this tournament! Abeg make una leave that guy! He remains a threat to opposing teams...

I repeat if Osimhen does not start that match against South Africa... Then let's forget finals!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:59am On Feb 06
When you called out Rohr early it was for the purpose of I told u so abi? Na u sabi read others intention abi? Abi don’t I still also stand the risk of someone calling me out that I was saying rubbish? It goes either way. The likes of Blueif, gustav etc are getting their own trashing now. Even some are still trying to find quotes to blast me. So who is now right or wrong? Anyone can also be guilty of “I told you so”. Why not just focus on the points made instead of the labeling? Attack the points. If I say Jpes is clueless , I will list my reasons. Counter the my points or leave it at that.

Mujtahida:

I started calling out Rohr just immediately before the WC 2018. I too, I have the eye and mind to think objectively and critically. All I'm saying is that make we win. That's my concern. Any complaints that is about pointing out present defects in this tournament for the purpose of saying - in the future - I told you so, no be am for me. There's a time for everything. Tournaments are celebratory events when your team wins. So you celebrate.

Naija go win match, you no fit enjoy am because you want to be objective and critical. Oho na suffer be that oo cos when we win, you complain, when we lose you complain. Double wahala for complainant. When you go enjoy na?

What you guys seem to want is that kind of unrealistic expectation where SE dominates like how we spank Cameroun 4-0.

Jpes don hack this thing. I knack you one zero. I prevent you from scoring. I win. Whether I sub Osimhen, or not, play Moffi or not. I don win.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:10am On Feb 06
Me i talk defects every time as much as I celebrate success. Come beat me na lol

And if/when we win the AFCON I hope say e go help the naira lol.

Mujtahida:

Okocha was asked by Arisetv correspondent that of all the AFCON we have won plus this one(if we win it), which is the most important.

Without hesitation Okocha said this one because we need it now as a nation. Na why all talk about JPes defect no bother me oo. You see me talk about sweet football again? Naaa, make we just win. Naija needs it. Our nation needs some joy. We can talk defects later
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:11am On Feb 06
We will beat South Africa with KC as CF sef

talk2docee:


So is it at this stage... The coach should be making 'try and error'? what are friendly matches and group matches meant for?
Osimhen is not injured, you want to bring in Moffi? All because he has not scored more goals as a striker? He contributed to all the goals scored in this tournament! Abeg make una leave that guy! He remains a threat to opposing teams...

I repeat if Osimhen does not start that match against South Africa... Then let's forget finals!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 3:07am On Feb 06
Nothing is wrong with Osimhen!
All na psychology warfare!

The same thing Tunisia did to us at the last AFCON only to see their best players in the starting 11.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 3:23am On Feb 06
Marjoribanks:
Nothing is wrong with Osimhen!
All na psychology warfare!

The same thing Tunisia did to us at the last AFCON only to see their best players in the starting 11.
Abdominal discomfort
I hope you are wrong
He wasn’t moving properly second half of Angola game
When coach has refused to rotate the players properly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bannedlargedx2: 3:25am On Feb 06
All you osimehn critics don finally get una way
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:27am On Feb 06
I hope so. We should also say Nwabali is out lol.

Marjoribanks:
Nothing is wrong with Osimhen!
All na psychology warfare!

The same thing Tunisia did to us at the last AFCON only to see their best players in the starting 11.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 4:53am On Feb 06
Joebie:
Based on what na? Eye test?

Abeg help me ask am, uncle base on what shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 4:58am On Feb 06
charlesemeka85:
u sabi watch ball?
He no sabi, na left eye and one nyash he dy use sidon watch ball cheesy cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 5:07am On Feb 06
talk2docee:


So is it at this stage... The coach should be making 'try and error'? what are friendly matches and group matches meant for?
Osimhen is not injured, you want to bring in Moffi? All because he has not scored more goals as a striker? He contributed to all the goals scored in this tournament! Abeg make una leave that guy! He remains a threat to opposing teams...

I repeat if Osimhen does not start that match against South Africa... Then let's forget finals!
Uncle forget this talk, Nigeria can still win this tournament with or without Osimhen. Yes he's very important to the team but that doesn't make the other strickers less. Team work has been the back bone of this team not one player brilliance. Na southy we dy play, any of the other strickers can come and perform exceptionally well. Personally I want him in the game but saying Nigeria will lose because he's not there, uncle na lie,

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 5:30am On Feb 06
zicky:
Uncle forget this talk, Nigeria can still win this tournament with or without Osimhen. Yes he's very important to the team but that doesn't make the other strickers less. Team work has been the back bone of this team not one player brilliance. Na southy we dy play, any of the other strickers can come and perform exceptionally well. Personally I want him in the game but saying Nigeria will lose because he's not there, uncle na lie,
We should forget the trophy if anything happens to VO9.

These your other strikers can't play under this system.

Iwobi plays a defensive role(DLP), in this set up.

You will need to change our formation and tactics if you are to start other strikers.

Other Strikers will not be able to score against SA in this current set-up, not forgetting the game against SA in Uyo where Iheanacho started and we were beaten 2-0.

Morocco could not even score this SA team.

You expect Moffi or Iheanacho who will be needing a totally different set-up, with about 2 creative midfielders to be able to score to start.

These other Strikers are not anywhere close to Osimhen.They won't even be able to give an "A" game in this set up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 5:39am On Feb 06
EEGA:
We should forget the trophy if anything happens to VO9.

These your other strikers can't play under this system.

Iwobi plays a defensive role(DLP), in this set up.

You will need to change our formation and tactics if you are to start other strikers.
Uncle as I said before forget this talk, who believe before that iwobi can play this defensive. Maybe if he was not in this tournament person like you will say he can't play under this system. Moffi and kc can play under any system and even play it in a better way that you will end up preferring it to what you are seeing. The team is winning reason why I won't advocate for a change of personnel. But saying we will lose because Osimhen is not playing baba na lie.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 5:45am On Feb 06
Amedino99:
osimhen has two disallowed goals, 6 big chances missed. There is no way you can look at these stats and your conclusion is that he has been subdued by defenders.its almost as if you have not watched him during this tournament.
some times when you see a post check the moniker first and don't be caught up by surprised

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 5:46am On Feb 06
zicky:
Uncle as I said before forget this talk, who believe before that iwobi can play this defensive. Maybe if he was not in this tournament person like you will say he can't play under this system. Moffi and kc can play under any system and even play it in a better way that you will end up preferring it to what you are seeing. The team is winning reason why I won't advocate for a change of personnel. But saying we will lose because Osimhen is not playing baba na lie.
He played this same DLP position many times last season for Everton under Frank Lampard.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 5:49am On Feb 06
zicky:
Uncle as I said before forget this talk, who believe before that iwobi can play this defensive. Maybe if he was not in this tournament person like you will say he can't play under this system. Moffi and kc can play under any system and even play it in a better way that you will end up preferring it to what you are seeing. The team is winning reason why I won't advocate for a change of personnel. But saying we will lose because Osimhen is not playing baba na lie.
Oga we will try them out in the same set-up after the AFCON and it will become obvious that they need a totally different set-up.

Have you ever studied this current pattern and why it suits only VO9?

You will need to change our formation and tactics if you are to start other strikers.

Other Strikers will not be able to score against SA in this current set-up, not forgetting the game against SA in Uyo where Iheanacho started and we were beaten 2-0.

Morocco could not even score this SA team.

You expect Moffi or Iheanacho who will be needing a totally different set-up, with about 2 creative midfielders to be able to score to start.

These other Strikers are not anywhere close to Osimhen.They won't even be able to give an "A" game in this set up.

Try checking the requirements of a 9 in this particular set-up and you will realise that Osimhen Trumps the other by a margin of 30%.

Iheanacho is not as fast as Osimhen.He lacks the work rate of Osimhen.How will he be able to cope?

Don't you know it's Osimhen's pace,movement , aggression,fighting spirit and runs in anticipation of a through ball and ability to get on the ball b4 the opponent(counter attacking attributes) is what makes him better suited for this set-up.

Iheanacho lacks the above qualities.

Moffi comes close but will only give 50% of what Osimhen has given so far.

Please this is the AFCON where Iheanacho and Awoniyi failed to get a goal in the R16 against Tunisia in the last edition.

Most of the chances we claim Osimhen misses, were created by his movement and counter attacking attributes.

We have been playing Strikers with defensive attributes in this set-up, as defending starts from the front.

This is what has brought us far in the tournament.

I rest my case.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:52am On Feb 06
Joebie:
When you called out Rohr early it was for the purpose of I told u so abi? Na u sabi read others intention abi? Abi don’t I still also stand the risk of someone calling me out that I was saying rubbish? It goes either way. The likes of Blueif, gustav etc are getting their own trashing now. Even some are still trying to find quotes to blast me. So who is now right or wrong? Anyone can also be guilty of “I told you so”. Why not just focus on the points made instead of the labeling? Attack the points. If I say Jpes is clueless , I will list my reasons. Counter the my points or leave it at that.

Nothing concern me with long talk. Make we win. If you like rejoice. If you like no rejoice. Na you sabi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:03am On Feb 06
Joebie:
Me i talk defects every time as much as I celebrate success. Come beat me na lol

And if/when we win the AFCON I hope say e go help the naira lol.

Na you know oo. Victory. That's all that matters. Even if we no win. We don try. Na first round exit you predict. We have gone over and beyond.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:28am On Feb 06
Haha.. u don cook lies abi?
Mujtahida:

Na you know oo. Victory. That's all that matters. Even if we no win. We don try. Na first round exit you predict. We have gone over and beyond.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Setaleonoz(m): 6:47am On Feb 06
Danielnino00:


Osimhen is very much like Darwin Nunez... They both have a reputation for missing easy chances and scoring hard ones...and their work rate is insane..
Liverpool fans often complain of Nunez missing chances, but they can't deny that he contributed well in other aspects..for instance, after our loss to Arsenal yesterday, it was revealed that all the games we have lost this season were the ones Nunez didn't start....that shows how important he is to the team..



Osimhen dont miss chances in napoli…
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Cecco90: 6:56am On Feb 06
For Nigerians living in South Africa.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 7:06am On Feb 06
EEGA:
Oga we will try them out in the same set-up after the AFCON and it will become obvious that they need a totally different set-up.

Have you ever studied this current pattern and why it suits only VO9?

You will need to change our formation and tactics if you are to start other strikers.

Other Strikers will not be able to score against SA in this current set-up, not forgetting the game against SA in Uyo where Iheanacho started and we were beaten 2-0.

Morocco could not even score this SA team.

You expect Moffi or Iheanacho who will be needing a totally different set-up, with about 2 creative midfielders to be able to score to start.

These other Strikers are not anywhere close to Osimhen.They won't even be able to give an "A" game in this set up.

Try checking the requirements of a 9 in this particular set-up and you will realise that Osimhen Trumps the other by a margin of 30%.

Iheanacho is not as fast as Osimhen.He lacks the work rate of Osimhen.How will he be able to cope?

Don't you know it's Osimhen's pace,movement , aggression,fighting spirit and runs in anticipation of a through ball and ability to get on the ball b4 the opponent(counter attacking attributes) is what makes him better suited for this set-up.

Iheanacho lacks the above qualities.

Moffi comes close but will only give 50% of what Osimhen has given so far.

Please this is the AFCON where Iheanacho and Awoniyi failed to get a goal in the R16 against Tunisia in the last edition.

Most of the chances we claim Osimhen misses, were created by his movement and counter attacking attributes.

We have been playing Strikers with defensive attributes in this set-up, as defending starts from the front.

This is what has brought us far in the tournament.

I rest my case.

Uncle kc and Moffi can't score in this setup, how many has Osimhen scored in this setup that was made just for him. Bringing up R16 with a different coach and Uzoho abi maduka in goal to buttress your point. I'll say it again God forbid but if Osimhen can't play our next match Nigeria will not lose. You forget Moses and lookman contribute as much as Osimhen in this so called setup you keep calling. You don't even see how Bassey, aina and ekong have been key in this setup, but what you keep saying is if Osimhen don't play Nigeria will lose because he's Messi abi Ronaldo (R7 even sit on the bench for Portugal)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:17am On Feb 06
Cecco90:
For Nigerians living in South Africa.
I don't get why there is issue this time around. Even back in 2019 when we beat them, there weren't any reports of retaliation by south Africans( at least none that I heard of) I wonder what changed this time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by louken(m): 7:17am On Feb 06
charlesemeka85:
Sadiq is better than Onuachu abeg
Very much better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 7:24am On Feb 06
We have 2 or 3 strikers ready to do the job if called up on Wednesday
With or without Osimhen we are winning
Moffi & Kelechi haven’t even kicked the ball yet
And you think they won’t be ready to deliver especially with all that training
They’ve been training regularly but the coach can’t list all players to start

If Moffi gets 60 minutes and Iheanacho gets 30 minutes don’t you think they’d put in their shift like it was 90 minutes they both played so we get the goals

Moffi would do 90 minutes of running in 60 minutes and Iheanacho could do his 90 minutes shift in 30 minutes
This would definitely result in more than one goal for Nigeria

I’m sure they’ve been eager to get their chance
I don’t know why some people don’t believe anymore

They may not be as quick but they are decent finishers
All coach has to do is bring in a fresh striker after an hour to keep the tempo up because high pressing tires forwards quickly

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 7:28am On Feb 06
yinkeys:

Abdominal discomfort
I hope you are wrong
He wasn’t moving properly second half of Angola game
When coach has refused to rotate the players properly
You sure you know what Abdominal discomfort means?

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