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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:56am On Feb 12
Mujtahida:

But you won't say this when Spain loses oo. In the last three WCs Spain - the archetypical tiki taka team - have been horrible. I recall how vehemently you defended them after Qatar 22. You don't see it that tiki taka is the flashy variation of negative football.

Ultimately it boils down to what you like and what you don't like even when the results are the same. This kind of negative football took Morocco to the semi and took naija to the finals. Do I like negative football? No but it's not in your place to condemn it while lauding tiki taka.

What your saying is devoid of facts and reality. How can you relate tiki taka to negativity? When Tiki Taka in its purest is about creating waves and loads of scoring chances.

Look at the screenshot below of Manchester City in their last two games. How can you say negative?

As for Spain, they got to the finals of the last Euros and won the Nations League. Defeats your horrible theory.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daninya33: 7:56am On Feb 12
A big congratulations to the Super Eagles for coming thus far.
I never envisaged that we could even get to the finals.
Kudos to everyone for making that possible.
It's no time to trade blames as we cannot undo what has happened.
We can only draw lessons from the tournament.
Who knows?,we can be Afcon winners next year if we fix areas that are broken.

It's high time we move on to the next game which is a world cup qualifier against our rivals,South Africa next month.
Nigeria has underachieved at the Afcon looking at the number of times we have reached the Afcon semi finals.

From a reliable source,Jose poseiro won't continue as Head Coach.
Poseiro may take up the coaching job at Zamalek.
Wherever he goes,we but can only wish him luck in his future endeavors.

Should the NFF source for a Nigerian to lead the team,who should it be?.
I personally think it is high time to give a Nigerian the role to excel in it as soon as possible as time is no longer on our side as the WCQ is fast approaching.

The second dilemma stems from the fact that certain players need to exit the team as their services are no longer needed but well appreciated for their meritorious dedication to the country's badge.

We will really need to include quality players to the NT without dislodging the nucleus of the team.
Who are the players that can add depth and stealth to the current team?.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 7:56am On Feb 12
Icon4s:
Overall an excellent AFCON outing. For me I had an open mind going into that final game and already prepared for a defeat in case it comes.

Prio to commencement of the tourney I am not sure up to 10% of us here could have predicted we will get to the Semis let alone the final.

The team gave all they have, you cannot give what you don't have. Playing against a host team in a Cup final is not an easy fit. This is Cote D' Ivoire we just played in Abidjan.

Let's just take the positives and continue to build.

Peseiro needs to scout for more midfielders and inject them into the team while also reducing the number of defenders. Thank God we now finally have a goalie, which is one of the major positives of this AFCON outing.

We can build from here as we push towards world cup qualification. 2026 World Cup is just by the corner . Core of this team will still be available then, if we qualify.

I AM PROUD OF THE BOYS
I think Peseiro will quit, the search for more midfielders will be the job of the incoming coach.
Nice submissions though. Playing the hosts in a final was never going to be a cake walk.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:57am On Feb 12
Mujtahida:

But you won't say this when Spain loses oo. In the last three WCs Spain - the archetypical tiki taka team - have been horrible. I recall how vehemently you defended them after Qatar 22. You don't see it that tiki taka is the flashy variation of negative football.

Ultimately it boils down to what you like and what you don't like even when the results are the same. In fact, this kind of negative football took Morocco to the semi and took naija to the finals. Do I like negative football? No but it's not in your place to condemn it while lauding tiki taka.

If that is how you want the Super Eagles playing, that is okay.

I detest it because as our last game showed, there is no footballing growth. It is just hiding behind mediocrity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:58am On Feb 12
Barryseal:

I think Peseiro will quit, the search for more midfielders will be the job of the incoming coach.
Nice submissions though. Playing the hosts in a final was never going to be a cake walk.

There is a difference between having a tough game against the host and just sitting back and doing nothing. We offered nothing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 8:16am On Feb 12
TheGoodJoe:


There is a difference between having a tough game against the host and just sitting back and doing nothing. We offered nothing.
Lets be real, pound for pound they have better midfield than us. I feel the occasion got to our players and they frooze.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:17am On Feb 12
A very good tournament for Nigeria and time to reflect on how to fix the team up for WC qualification.It is time to give the likes of Akinsanmiro and Eletu the chance cuz it was glaring we couldn't controlled our games in the middle in all our matches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 8:25am On Feb 12
Kog45:
A very good tournament for Nigeria and time to reflect on how to fix the team up for WC qualification.It is time to give the likes of Akinsanmiro and Eletu the chance cuz it was glaring we couldn't controlled our games in the middle in all our matches.

Sometimes you've just got to gamble and hope it works out cause at the point we have nothing to lose. We've had same midfield problem for many years and if giving Eletu, Akinsomiro and Daga a chance will potentially be a solution we should go all in. Simon Adingra who did the most damage yesterday is 22.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by akwesenana: 8:34am On Feb 12
With this unbridled toxicity from Nigerian fans, how do we convince foreign-breds to come play for us?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SmallDick99(m): 8:40am On Feb 12
We could have probably won the tournament if we continued with this formation.

Despite we didn't win our first match against equa guinea we played better, created enough chances and this is the only match we won on possession out of all the games we played at the afcon.

When the coach started this his defensive formation, although we managed to win games but we were playing badly, wasn't controlling the ball well and finding it harder to keep possession.

Some of us knew we couldn't continue like that but some were blinded my the euphoria of lackluster Victories

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:43am On Feb 12
Joebie:
Facts. These players give their 100%. They must be protected.


You get?

I don't know why empathy is such a foreign concept to fans.

Do they think they're more affected by the loss than players themselves? These tournaments are part of the players careers, they are used in their profiles and used to judge the success of the career. You wey no dey pitch, no fit dey more interested in the win than the people who give 90 minutes of their sweat on that pitch, so, to pile on them on top their own feelings of failure is wicked.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 8:43am On Feb 12
Daninya33:
A big congratulations to the Super Eagles for coming thus far.
I never envisaged that we could even get to the finals.
Kudos to everyone for making that possible.
It's no time to trade blames as we cannot undo what has happened.
We can only draw lessons from the tournament.
Who knows?,we can be Afcon winners next year if we fix areas that are broken.

It's high time we move on to the next game which is a world cup qualifier against our rivals,South Africa next month.
Nigeria has underachieved at the Afcon looking at the number of times we have reached an Afcon semi finals.

From a reliable source,Jose poseiro won't continue as Head Coach. Should the NFF source for a Nigerian to lead the team? Or source for a White journeyman who is familiar with African football?.

The second dilemma stems from the fact that certain players need to exit the team. Who are the players that can add depth and stealth to the current team?.

A member of the NFF technical team is reading proceedings on the thread.

Members can suggest players good enough to play for the Super Eagles.

We,football loving Nigerians want to

This has always been our issue, we can hardly build on our successes going forward but I have hope that if we could fix our goal-keeping crisis just before this afcon then we should be able to fix our midfield crisis too. I've listened to some of our ex-players like Oliseh, Osaze, Amunike, and others, they were never too comfortable with this defensive pattern we deployed throughout this Afcon. If we indeed have a technical team, they should start with a thorough assessment of the football tactics we used during this Afcon and perform a true SWOT analysis of this team. From there they should know the players who need to be appreciated for their service to the nation and allowed to ease themselves out of the team while new players ( many have been suggested here) should be given a chance. The national team is not anybody's father's property.

Am grateful to Paseiro, we can build on some positives and value he has added to our team, I wish he could stay on but we can't tie him down if he wants to go. If we want to get another foreign coach or even a local coach, let's remember that he will need some matches again to understand our players, I hope it won't come at a cost with the World Cup qualifiers already here.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44am On Feb 12
Barryseal:

Lets be real, pound for pound they have better midfield than us. I feel the occasion got to our players and they frooze.

Let us be real, throughout Peseiro's time here, we have never built our midfield. We did not freeze on the occasion. We never grew. That is how we ran with the myth that we had no keeper. Scout and screen and freaking build a team. Nigeria is not a country that fields chickens as players. Pound for pound, Brazil had far better players than us in 96, but we did not cower, we gave them hell.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:49am On Feb 12
Kog45:
A very good tournament for Nigeria and time to reflect on how to fix the team up for WC qualification.It is time to give the likes of Akinsanmiro and Eletu the chance cuz it was glaring we couldn't controlled our games in the middle in all our matches.

Boss, these guys are too young. bTW, how many senior professional games do they have under their belt?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:50am On Feb 12
Shouldn't we give Daniel daga a chance? I am just thinking out loud here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 8:50am On Feb 12
TheGoodJoe:


Let us be real, throughout Peseiro's time here, we have never built our midfield. We did not freeze on the occasion. We never grew. That is how we ran with the myth that we had no keeper. Scout and screen and freaking build a team. Nigeria is not a country that fields chickens as players. Pound for pound, Brazil had far better players than us in 96, but we did not cower, we gave them hell.

Simple. Can't say it better than this. Agreed 100%

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:53am On Feb 12
andrewbaba44:
If chukwueze see Madrid or Barcelona na that time e go turn prime messi

Show us you are a winger just as adingra did ,no amigo we don’t do that here

I always talked about his deficiencies but I was tagged a hater. Yes, I may have been overboard withy criticisms but players like chukwueze should just keep their ass glued to the bench while more serious wingers play. Nathan Tella should be playing for us and even starting...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:57am On Feb 12
Going forward, perseiro is not the one for us he is too timid and defensive. While he has improved our defense, he is too lazily a coach to scout for midfielders. This bad tradition of carrying 4 midfielders to major tourneys must stop

Iwobi can't be starting for us. This tourney showed that he isn't really as good as he is touted. A good sub nonetheless but not a starter for a title contender.

Osimhen tried. He just wasn't getting services

Zaidu sanusi shouldn't be starting. We need to get a solid LB or draft a player there.

Maduka Okoye should come take the place of Uzoho. His time with is is over.

We did great and surpassed expectations. Just need a new coach and some few tweaks here and there. Maybe Angola's coach or Hugo boss since he has more experience...or herve Renard. Emmanuel Amunike wouldn't be bad but I'm not sure about him

I'm talking of coaches that are realistically within our reach

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 9:00am On Feb 12
TheGoodJoe:


Let us be real, throughout Peseiro's time here, we have never built our midfield. We did not freeze on the occasion. We never grew. That is how we ran with the myth that we had no keeper. Scout and screen and freaking build a team. Nigeria is not a country that fields chickens as players. Pound for pound, Brazil had far better players than us in 96, but we did not cower, we gave them hell.
On the contrary, Peseiro have tried to develop our game to be more possessive. Nobody can deny we controlled games prior to this championship, we just couldn't keep a clean sheet thanks to an unbalanced defence and Uzoho.

Alot of people commended our posessesive play against Saudi Arabia and Uganda abi na Mozambique, even you, I remember reading your blue font.

Just like the way we struck gold with Nwabali, I feel same will happen to that midfield in fullness of time.

I hope we get the next managerial hire right. Alot depends on that

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 9:06am On Feb 12
Ppogbae:


This is some food for thought.
that is why goals are important. We created 21 BC, missed 15. Imagine we converted just half of our BC no one would have called jpes's eagles a defensive side.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:07am On Feb 12
Blueelf:


Boss, these guys are too young. bTW, how many senior professional games do they have under their belt?
Blue baba,Alex Iwobi made eagles as academy player...my 14 years old son is playing in U18 youth league and a starter playing from CB.

I think we just need to fix things up ...you said can we get Daga but Eletu and Akinsanmiro are too young.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:12am On Feb 12
Blueelf:
Going forward, perseiro is not the one for us he is too timid and defensive. While he has improved our defense, he is too lazily a coach to scout for midfielders. This bad tradition of carrying 4 midfielders to major tourneys must stop

Iwobi can't be starting for us. This tourney showed that he isn't really as good as he is touted. A good sub nonetheless but not a starter for a title contender.

Osimhen tried. He just wasn't getting services

Zaidu sanusi shouldn't be starting. We need to get a solid LB or draft a player there.

Maduka Okoye should come take the place of Uzoho. His time with is is over.

We did great and surpassed expectations. Just need a new coach and some few tweaks here and there. Maybe Angola's coach or Hugo boss since he has more experience...or herve Renard. Emmanuel Amunike wouldn't be bad but I'm not sure about him

I'm talking of coaches that are realistically within our reach
Right man to cover for Stanley Nwabali is Christian Nwoke not Okoye Maduka cuz he is a complete keeper,if Nwabali sleep that boy will become number one.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Princezibk: 9:14am On Feb 12
I’m very proud of the boys,,, they made us believe in our team again that we still a power house in Africa.,,,

With the arrays of talents uncapped and right coaches we will rule Africa and the world again

Viva Nigeria πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:14am On Feb 12
TheGoodJoe:


Let us be real, throughout Peseiro's time here, we have never built our midfield. We did not freeze on the occasion. We never grew. That is how we ran with the myth that we had no keeper. Scout and screen and freaking build a team. Nigeria is not a country that fields chickens as players. Pound for pound, Brazil had far better players than us in 96, but we did not cower, we gave them hell.
Truth be told,am not happy yesterday not cuz we lost but we failed to fight gallantly.Alex Iwobi and Chuckwueze i just don't know
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:16am On Feb 12
Blueelf:
Going forward, perseiro is not the one for us he is too timid and defensive. While he has improved our defense, he is too lazily a coach to scout for midfielders. This bad tradition of carrying 4 midfielders to major tourneys must stop

Iwobi can't be starting for us. This tourney showed that he isn't really as good as he is touted. A good sub nonetheless but not a starter for a title contender.

Osimhen tried. He just wasn't getting services

Zaidu sanusi shouldn't be starting. We need to get a solid LB or draft a player there.

Maduka Okoye should come take the place of Uzoho. His time with is is over.

We did great and surpassed expectations. Just need a new coach and some few tweaks here and there. Maybe Angola's coach or Hugo boss since he has more experience...or herve Renard. Emmanuel Amunike wouldn't be bad but I'm not sure about him

I'm talking of coaches that are realistically within our reach

Dude played with an injury, He is one of the players am most grateful to. He wasn't 100% fit for this Afcon yet he gave his all. Twice in the early minutes against SA and CIV he went down, how he still gets all that energy to press upfront is a wonder. His APOTY is no fluke

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 9:19am On Feb 12
Blueelf:


Boss, these guys are too young. bTW, how many senior professional games do they have under their belt?
well daga plays for enyimba. I quite agree that they should be tested professionally before we throw them into our midfield. It's not a big ask considering players their age are already playing top flight football in teams like Barca, Liverpool, man city and the likes. We know they show promises but we are yet to see how well they can perform on the big stage. We have players we can still call up while keeping tabs on their progress. Apart from iwobi, I can't think of any other player we played in our team before their professional debut. Even osimhen had to wait a long time before his debut for us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:19am On Feb 12
Goke7:


Dude played with an injury, He is one of the players am most grateful to. He wasn't 100% fit for this Afcon yet he gave his all. Twice in the early minutes against SA and CIV he went down, how he still gets all that energy to press upfront is a wonder. His APOTY is no fluke
We just need to fix that midfield
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:24am On Feb 12
Kog45:
We just need to fix that midfield

Yes, our midfield let us down, am glad everyone now knows this and if there are nff technical team indeed checking out this thread, this should be the main takeaway.

But it's not all gloom, we have discovered an Onyeka but we need more ball-playing midfielders
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:30am On Feb 12
Kog45:
Truth be told,am not happy yesterday not cuz we lost but we failed to fight gallantly.Alex Iwobi and Chuckwueze i just don't know

Simplito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:30am On Feb 12
Kog45:
Right man to cover for Stanley Nwabali is Christian Nwoke not Okoye Maduka cuz he is a complete keeper,if Nwabali sleep that boy will become number one.

Loll, I don't agree with you at all

I have watched Christian Nwoke of Sporting Lagos and that guy makes School boy mistakes

Meanwhile, the Maduka is the starting GK of Udinese and has had recent good form

Oga, this your submission is not it at all. Christian Nwoke ke? lollllll

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Princezibk: 9:31am On Feb 12
leathalbeast:
so your team lost and you are still here ?
Your them hasn’t achieved anything sensible for the past 40 yrs or so ,,, you’re here mourning [right][/right]
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:32am On Feb 12
Barryseal:

On the contrary, Peseiro have tried to develop our game to be more possessive. Nobody can deny we controlled games prior to this championship, we just couldn't keep a clean sheet thanks to an unbalanced defence and Uzoho.

Alot of people commended our posessesive play against Saudi Arabia and Uganda abi na Mozambique, even you, I remember reading your blue font.

Just like the way we struck gold with Nwabali, I feel same will happen to that midfield in fullness of time.

I hope we get the next managerial hire right. Alot depends on that

I can't remember the game that I was impressed in our keeping possession but on an average, I would not rate us a side good at keeping the ball. We did not even select a squad with the idea of keeping possession.

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