Fornicator Aemmyjah and Mad MaxinDhouse, are you aware that your own publications can be used to debunk 607 Bce?

Oya come and debunk these shots. Come and explain the mago mago Watchtower did here by adding more years to the reign of Kings.

Aemmyjah:

I don't make conclusions or answer questions from an apostate page.
You can't make me an idiot like you
Tell me, how many years were the Jews in captivity? 70 or 50?
Let's do simple maths and see how much you know about addition and subtraction

Imagine sitting face to face with another man as thousands of audience are tuned to hear both of you debate on what interests them then instead of maturely addressing you the other person started by insulting and cursing you.
Ọmọ even right thinking audience will take their leave as it's longer makes any sense they will conclude that both of you only come on air to exhibit your skills in insulting and cursing one another!

Courz:


Mumu, why did Watchtower do mago mago and add unnecessary years to the reigns of kings just so that they can stretch to reach 607 Bce? Why are you a supporter of this fraud?

Answer 2 questions if you are a Bible believer and it will lead you u to answers you seek

1. How many years did God say his people will spend in exile?

2. How many years did they spend in Babylon

Answer it or remain a liar. No peace for the wicked. JWs are living rent free in your head. We did not cause it. It's just making you mad

Answer those 2 questions

MaxInDHouse:


Imagine sitting face to face with another man as thousands of audience are tuned to hear both of you debate on what interests them then instead of maturely addressing you the other person started by insulting and cursing you.
Ọmọ even right thinking audience will take their leave as it's longer makes any sense they will conclude that both of you only come on air to exhibit your skills in insulting and cursing one another!

Mad MaxinDhouse, are you ashamed that Watchtower used American Abracadabra for you people? So, you can't explain the mago mago adding of years your Watchtower did to stretch themselves to 607bce? What a shame!

MaxInDHouse:


Imagine sitting face to face with another man as thousands of audience are tuned to hear both of you debate on what interests them then instead of maturely addressing you the other person started by insulting and cursing you.
Ọmọ even right thinking audience will take their leave as it's longer makes any sense they will conclude that both of you only come on air to exhibit your skills in insulting and cursing one another!

That's why I asked him
The more he attacks us, he's also attacking the Bible unless the Bible lied that the Jews were in Babylon for 70 years
Baba is running away from simple maths and wants me to read his junkies

Aemmyjah:


Answer 2 questions if you are a Bible believer and it will lead you u to answers you seek

1. How many years did God say his people will spend in exile?

2. How many years did they spend in Babylon

Answer it or remain a liar. No peace for the wicked. JWs are living rent free in your head. We did not cause it. It's just making you mad

Answer those 2 questions

Fornicator Aemmyjah, explain the mago mago Watchtower did here in the calculation. You can see that 587 can be proven by using your own publications below.

Aemmyjah:


That's why I asked him
The more he attacks us, he's also attacking the Bible unless the Bible lied that the Jews were in Babylon for 70 years
Baba is running away from simple maths and wants me to read his junkies

Explain why your publications below are still proving 607 to be false. Why did your Watchtower add more Years to their calculation yet your publications are proving us right?

Courz:


Fornicator Aemmyjah, explain the mago mago Watchtower did here in the calculation. You can see that 587 can be proven by using your own publications below.

Be a man and answer me
Stop acting like a chicken
I don't read apostate page or their contents. You can't inject poison into an apple and ask me to bite and show you I'm strong. Desisting to eat does not make me a coward but makes you foolish. I'm not running away either but leaving everything so we can focus in what the Bible really says and make the right conclusion

Answer me
How many years did the Jews spend in Babylon

Aemmyjah:


Be a man and answer me
Stop acting like a chicken
I don't read apostate page or their contents. You can't inject poison into an apple and ask me to bite and show you I'm strong. Desisting to eat does not make me a coward but makes you foolish. I'm not running away either but leaving everything so we can focus in what the Bible really says and make the right conclusion


Answer me
How many years did the Jews spend in Babylon

Fornicator Aemmyjah, be a Man and explain the mago mago Watchtower did here in the calculation. You can see that 587 can be proven by using your own publications below. Your publications can be used against you. Look at the timeline from your Watchtower. Explain that.

Courz:


Fornicator Aemmyjah, be a Man and explain the mago mago Watchtower did here in the calculation. You can see that 587 can be proven by using your own publications below. Your publications can be used against you. Look at the timeline from your Watchtower. Explain that.

How many did the Jews spend in exile?

I know how the watchtower site looks like
If you want to discredit something, you allow the logo to show on the web page but when you want to mislead fools like your kind, you drop screenshot of apostate page with misleading content. That's not my watchtower publication page.

Again
As an apostates, you will have no peace. Your existence here on the forum is meaningless as nobody has gained anything meaningful from you than read your lies and hate... No peace for the wicked
Unless you answer my question, you remain a liar and no response from my end for the whole of this month. If you like, keep calling me like you're a lost child... We're supporting Bible, making what it said about 70 years true, if the whole world rejects it, it's their own problem, not ours. You too claiming to be Christian, invalidate God's word to support secular reports that don't completely match or are even entirely accurate. Let God be true.
We stand with the Bible. Let God be true

If the Bible is correct, 70 years will last from 607 to 537 BCE. It's really the Bible you're fighting, not us. Pained apostate. It's like the name, Jehovah's Witnesses gives you sleepless night. No sleep for the apostates, no peace for the apostates... You're trying hard to make us stop, I'm sorry, you have not even seen anything yet...
If you can't answer my question, don't expect any response from me

Aemmyjah:


How many did the Jews spend in exile?

I know how the watchtower site looks like
If you want to discredit something, you allow the logo to show on the web page but when you want to mislead fools like your kind, you drop screenshot of apostate page with misleading content. That's not my watchtower publication page.

Again
As an apostates, you will have no peace. Your existence here on the forum is meaningless as nobody has gained anything meaningful from you than read your lies and hate... No peace for the wicked
Unless you answer my question, you remain a liar and no response from my end for the whole of this month. If you like, keep calling me like you're a lost child... We're supporting Bible, making what it said about 70 years true, if the whole world rejects it, it's their own problem, not ours. You too claiming to be Christian, invalidate God's word to support secular reports that don't completely match or are even entirely accurate. Let God be true.
We stand with the Bible. Let God be true

If the Bible is correct, 70 years will last from 607 to 537 BCE. It's really the Bible you're fighting, not us. Pained apostate. It's like the name, Jehovah's Witnesses gives you sleepless night. No sleep for the apostates, no peace for the apostates... You're trying hard to make us stop, I'm sorry, you have not even seen anything yet...
If you can't answer my question, don't expect any response from me

Fornicator Aemmyjah, your Watchtower Cult relied on Secular sources, archeologists and ancient tablets to do their calculations to an extent. Then turned around and did their own calculation to arrive at 607 and gave the excuse that they did so because secular sources and the above mentioned are not reliable. My question is, why are they using secular sources in the first place if they know they are not reliable? If they are truly not reliable, why haven't they stopped using them till today? Why do they still need these sources to arrive at 607?

Secondly, why is It that if one is to use your publications that have details of the rulership of these Kings, one will arrive at 587 Bce for Jerusalem destruction? Why is It that one can use your publications against you?

Fornicator Aemmyjah, your emotional tantrums will not solve this issue. Your emotional tantrums only work on your Fellow Brainwashed JWs. Just simply explain to us why Watchtower has to do wayo with the dates, assign wrong dates to Kings and increase the rulership timeline of certain kings just so that they can arrive at 607? Do you know the kind of people that do this? Scammers! That's what they do. Watchtower claimed one King started ruling in so so so date whereas History books give a different date. Are your Watchtower historians? Where did they get their imaginary dates from? Do they have degrees in archaeology or History? Your Watchtower knows they are not good at this thing which is why they still rely on Secular sources, historians and tablets that they are claiming are not reliable. Tell us. Explain this fraud!

Aemmyjah:

Even if 70 years taken away from 537 BCE will lead to 607 BCE. 70 years of exile as God said. This mad apostates claiming to be Christians will rather fight those defending the Bible out of envy and hate.

How many years did God say his people will be in exile? 587 - 537 BCE (50 years) or 607 - 537 BCE (70 years).
They'll rather make the Bible look inaccurate
No peace for the apostates wicked
😂

You people have been hammering on 70 years and 537BC

So, does this 537BC come from God or mention in God's Word?

Emusan:


You people have been hammering on 70 years and 537BC

So, does this 537BC come from God or mention in God's Word?

It involved God's people
The exile must have a starting date and ending year right?
According to Bible chronology and the book of Ezra, when were the Jews released?
Go amd get your materials nd do the calculation

Aemmyjah:
It involved God's people

Nobody disputes this.

The exile must have a starting date and ending year right?

Definitely, so which one is starting date and the ending year?

According to Bible chronology and the book of Ezra, when were the Jews released?

You should provide it here!

Go amd get your materials nd do the calculation

I did and it came out as 587BC which is also supported by archeologist findings and historical documents.

So back to my question, does 537BC come from God or mention in God's Word?

Or let me put it this way, how do you arrive at 537BC?

Emusan:


Nobody disputes this.



Definitely, so which one is starting date and the ending year?



You should provide it here!



I did and it came out as 587BC which is also supported by archeologist findings and historical documents.

So back to my question, does 537BC come from God or mention in God's Word?

Or let me put it this way, how do you arrive at 537BC?

Ok
Let's that it logically
How many years did God say his people will spend in exile?

Note that Babylonian historians do not agree on the dates of everything

Aemmyjah:
Ok
Let's that it logically

What's the meaning of this?

How many years did God say his people will spend in exile?

You don't use question to answer question.

If you don't have answer to my question just say it.

Note that Babylonian historians do not agree on the dates of everything

So, where did you get the date 537BC from?

Emusan:


What's the meaning of this?



You don't use question to answer question.

If you don't have answer to my question just say it.



So, where did you get the date 537BC from?

Atheists are using 587-537 BCE to discredit the Bible as giving false predictions
Babylonian historians are not really reliable with dates.

Forget about the religion, using Bible chronology, the dates show 607 BCE to 537 BCE. You'll rather give atheists an upper hand to discredit Bible than allow Bible speak for itself as long as it is Jehovah's Witnesses that uphold it alone

Aemmyjah:
Atheists are using 587-537 BCE to discredit the Bible as giving false predictions
Babylonian historians are not really reliable with dates.

Show me the Atheists that are using it to discredit God's Word.

If Babylonian historians aren't really reliable with date, where/how did you get the date 537BC?

This is the question you're turning blind eyes to as if you didn't see it.

Forget about the religion, using Bible chronology, the dates show 607 BCE to 537 BCE. You'll rather give atheists an upper hand to discredit Bible than allow Bible speak for itself as long as it is Jehovah's Witnesses that uphold it alone

Leave Atheists out of this, show me how you get the date 537BC.

Why is the truth so hard for you people to present?

Emusan:


Show me the Atheists that are using it to discredit God's Word.

If Babylonian historians aren't really reliable with date, where/how did you get the date 537BC?

This is the question you're turning blind eyes to as if you didn't see it.



Leave Atheists out of this, show me how you get the date 537BC.

Why is the truth so hard for you people to present?

Bible chronology helps us to know the date of the end of exile. Read Ezra
Why not ask your Pastor? He should know

Aemmyjah:
Bible chronology helps us to know the date of the end of exile. Read Ezra
Why not ask your Pastor? He should know

Can you imagine!

So it's from the book of Ezra you got the date 537BC according to Bible chronology.

So, why can't you present it here?

Why is it so difficult for you people to quote God's Word in support of your claim or is it a lie against GOD and His Word?

This is how your deluded brother dances around when he was asked to present just single verse from the scripture for his claim.

O ma se oooo

Emusan:


Can you imagine!

So it's from the book of Ezra you got the date 537BC according to Bible chronology.

So, why can't you present it here?

Why is it so difficult for you people to quote God's Word in support of your claim or is it a lie against GOD and His Word?

This is how your deluded brother dances around when he was asked to present just single verse from the scripture for his claim.

O ma se oooo

Bible chronology
Something you'll likely never be thought cos it's too high for you or your leaders
But not for those that examine the length, breadth, height and width of God's word

All your arguments is to deny that the Jews did not actually spend 70 years

Same chronology helps us see that Jesus was born in BCE. Ask your religious leaders, they'll say something different. Even scholars think it is 4-6BCE
Same chronology helps us see that the year Jesus was baptized and became messiah is 29CE
Same chronology helps us see that from the time of Adam's creation till now is 6050 years
Same way chronology helps us see that the Exodus from Egypt is 1513BCE
Same chronology helps us see that the great flood was in 2370BCE

Explaining to an arrogant misinformed fellow like you is like trying to explain rocket science to one arrogant chief in the remotest village in Africa...

So Jehovah's Witnesses take everything in the Bible seriously including dating

Aemmyjah:
Bible chronology
Something you'll likely never be thought cos it's too high for you or your leaders
But not for those that examine the length, breadth, height and width of God's word

And you can't provide this your height, length, breath and width God's Word here.

Why are you afraid to quote God's Word to support your claim?

All your arguments is to deny that the Jews did not actually spend 70 years

Waooo great mind reader.

Well, all what I've asked of you is, where/how did you get your date 537BC?

Since you claim Babylonian historians aren't really reliable with date.

Anyway, I know it's your conscience that is condemning you.

Same chronology helps us see that Jesus was born in BCE. Ask your religious leaders, they'll say something different. Even scholars think it is 4-6BCE
Same chronology helps us see that the year Jesus was baptized and became messiah is 29CE
Same chronology helps us see that from the time of Adam's creation till now is 6050 years
Same way chronology helps us see that the Exodus from Egypt is 1513BCE
Same chronology helps us see that the great flood was in 2370BCE

So to provide how/where you got the date 537BC is what leads to this ranting.

Explaining to an arrogant misinformed fellow like you is like trying to explain rocket science to one arrogant chief in the remotest village in Africa...

So to provide the verse from God's Word on how you got the date 537BC needs science rocket explanation

Just simple question, see how you have been dancing around like a lost goat and shifting blame from Babylon historians unreliable dating to Atheists to God's word. Yet you can't just provide a single evidence to back them up.

Continue...

So Jehovah's Witnesses take everything in the Bible seriously including dating

Then provide the DATE from the Bible.

Why is that difficult for you to do And

Is Bible not a trustworthy and reliable source of information again?

If you're not lying, it shouldn't take this long for you to proof how you got the date 537BC but you know something is fishing then you must jump around like kangaroo until you deviate from the main point.

This is a GREAT thread.

Kudos to the OP

Great work so far @Emusan & @Courz - happy new year guys.

Finding out the truth about when Jerusalem really got destroyed was one of the reasons why I woke up from the JW cult.

As a student of ancient history, I have read countless reports from reliable archeologists and historians who all agree - with proof that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BCE not 607BCE

Since Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BCE, that means the doctrine of 1914 is FALSE - "Jesus" didn't return invisibly in that year.

And since the 1914 doctrine is FALSE, then the doctrine of 1919 is also FALSE - which destroys their claim to have been selected by "Jesus" in that same year.

The 1914 doctrine is the "foundation" upon which the entire JW cult is built - once that foundation is destroyed, everything else falls apart Iike a deck of cards.

That is why the Governing Body insists that their members should not have independent thinking and must not do external research.

How can the "only true religion" teach LIES?

Once again, this is a GREAT thread.

oteneaaron:
This is a GREAT thread.

Kudos to the OP

Great work so far @Emusan & @Courz - happy new year guys.

Finding out the truth about when Jerusalem really got destroyed was one of the reasons why I woke up from the JW cult.

As a student of ancient history, I have read countless reports from reliable archeologists and historians who all agree - with proof that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BCE not 607BCE

Since Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BCE, that means the doctrine of 1914 is FALSE - "Jesus" didn't return invisibly in that year.

And since the 1914 doctrine is FALSE, then the doctrine of 1919 is also FALSE - which destroys their claim to have been selected by "Jesus" in that same year.

The 1914 doctrine is the "foundation" upon which the entire JW cult is built - once that foundation is destroyed, everything else falls apart Iike a deck of cards.

That is why the Governing Body insists that their members should not have independent thinking and must not do external research.

How can the "only true religion" teach LIES?

Once again, this is a GREAT thread.

Now that you've found out all these lies, can you point to another religious group that teaches the truth?

Michael547:

Now that you've found out all these lies, can you point to another religious group that teaches the truth?

No, I cannot do that.

Do you know why?

Because you don't need any man-made religious organization to find God.

Look deep within yourself and you will find what you seek.

Didn't your Bible tell you that God is a spirit?

Didn't the same Bible tell you that you are made in the image and likeness of God?

Does that not mean you are also a spirit being - just like God?

Be calm, look within and you will find what you seek.

Wetin you de find for sokoto is inside your sokoto.

Man-made religions like the Jehovah Witness cult will only keep you in an endless treadmill where instead of finding the God within, you end up worshiping a group of men who claim to be the "direct channel" to God.

These group of men even have the effrontery to say that you must obey their every word even when it doesn't make any sense.

I know that this might not make any sense to you, but it is what it is.

I repeat - you don't need any man-made religious organization to find God.

oteneaaron:


No, I cannot do that.

Do you know why?

Because you don't need any man-made religious organization to find God.

Look deep within yourself and you will find what you seek.

Didn't your Bible tell you that God is a spirit?

Didn't the same Bible tell you that you are made in the image and likeness of God?

Does that not mean you are also a spirit being - just like God?

Be calm, look within and you will find what you seek.

Wetin you de find for sokoto is inside your sokoto.

Man-made religions like the Jehovah Witness cult will only keep you in an endless treadmill where instead of finding the God within, you end up worshiping a group of men who claim to be the "direct channel" to God.

These group of men even have the effrontery to say that you must obey their every word even when it doesn't make any sense.

I know that this might not make any sense to you, but it is what it is.

I repeat - you don't need any man-made religious organization to find God.

So you actually want me to follow a step which you know would not even make sense to me? But I should follow it because 'it is what it is'?
Now since when you have been following God on your own and within yourself, have you been associating with others who have been doing the same as you? Are you all in agreement?

Michael547:

So you actually want me to follow a step which you know would not even make sense to me?

No offense bro.

I only said that because of the question you asked - it sounded like a question only a Jehovah's Witness would ask.

You are a Jehovah's Witness, aren't you?

But I should follow it because 'it is what it is'?

I only asked you to look within and find the God you seek.

Know thy self.

The choice is yours.

Only you can make that move - you are in the drivers seat.

Remember, you can always remain where you are - that is why it is called free will.

Now since when you have been following God on your own and within yourself, have you been associating with others who have been doing the same as you? Are you all in agreement?

Spoken like a true JW.

I guess my words were too cryptic for you to decipher.

I am not a member of any religious group nor sect, neither am I "associating with others" - I have no need for any of that.

I am on an everlasting path to become one with my creator.

If this is too much for you to understand, then like I said earlier, it is what it is.

Cheers bro!

oteneaaron:


No offense bro.

I only said that because of the question you asked - it sounded like a question only a Jehovah's Witness would ask.

You are a Jehovah's Witness, aren't you?



I only asked you to look within and find the God you seek.

Know thy self.

The choice is yours.

Only you can make that move - you are in the drivers seat.

Remember, you can always remain where you are - that is why it is called free will.



Spoken like a true JW.

I guess my words were too cryptic for you to decipher.

I am not a member of any religious group nor sect, neither am I "associating with others" - I have no need for any of that.

I am on an everlasting path to become one with my creator.

If this is too much for you to understand, then like I said earlier, it is what it is.

Cheers bro!

Lol....so your creator cannot connect you with any other person that is serving him? And you have not even found any yet? Don't you think that you might be the only one who might be saved among all the billions of people on this planet earth?

Emusan:


And you can't provide this your height, length, breath and width God's Word here.

Why are you afraid to quote God's Word to support your claim?



Waooo great mind reader.

Well, all what I've asked of you is, where/how did you get your date 537BC?

Since you claim Babylonian historians aren't really reliable with date.

Anyway, I know it's your conscience that is condemning you.



So to provide how/where you got the date 537BC is what leads to this ranting.



So to provide the verse from God's Word on how you got the date 537BC needs science rocket explanation

Just simple question, see how you have been dancing around like a lost goat and shifting blame from Babylon historians unreliable dating to Atheists to God's word. Yet you can't just provide a single evidence to back them up.

Continue...



Then provide the DATE from the Bible.

Why is that difficult for you to do And

Is Bible not a trustworthy and reliable source of information again?

If you're not lying, it shouldn't take this long for you to proof how you got the date 537BC but you know something is fishing then you must jump around like kangaroo until you deviate from the main point.

I mentioned several dates
Which secular people think different
Oya
Which ones are wrong

Aemmyjah:



I mentioned several dates
Which secular people think different
Oya
Which ones are wrong

You never mentioned several DATES. Stop lying.

How did you arrive at the date 537BC? is the question you have not answered.