Katcall:
i added some new information. Me too, i'm in the same boat

UyaiIncomparabl:


Do you have to be so uncouth though?

Thanks anyway.

Sirianese:


Mexico need visa for USA don't mind that mongrel

tensazangetsu20:
Better to go to Mexico. The Brazilian passport is stronger but the Mexican passport offers more opportunities. For instance, Mexicans are liable for the TN visa. The same visa that Canadians use to work in the US. As a mexican citizen, you only need to live in Spain for 2 years to get Spanish citizenship and Spain is the strongest passport in the world now. The passport of mexico can be gotten 2 years after you birth your child there.

But definitely try the US and Canada first but if they can't work then mexico it is. It's the only passport that gives you access to both of those countries. With Brazil passport you will still need visa and Brazil doesn't really have any friendly agreements with the US or Canada at the moment

gforce5:
OP, it depends on various factors such as your travel history and finances. Getting a U.S. visa has always been about luck. Canada has become more stringent since so many Nigerians are migrating to their country. Brazil and Mexico are easier as not too many Nigerians visit those countries. Finance plays a big part in birth tourism. Do you have the finances to cover having a child in Canada/US?

Like Tenza and Gerrard have suggested, it would be wiser to have your child in either Brazil/Mexico. In Brazil, the parents of a child born there become permanent residents within 2 years. The cost of having a child there is cheaper than Canada/U.S. A Brazilian passport grants it's citizens visa-free access to 173 countries including Europe and Latin America. Brazilians have freedom of movement to live and work in Portugal. Mexico is also good as Brazil. Mexican citizens have visa free access to 165 countries including Canada, Europe and Japan. Mexican citizens are also entitled to Spanish citizenship after two years of residency. As a Mexican citizen, you or your child will be eligible for TN status which allows citizens of Canada and Mexico to work in America under specific professions. If I were you, I would have my child in Brazil/Mexico before Nigerians become aware of the advantages of going to those countries.

GlobeTrotter2:
very wise advice. One point of correction though, parents of a Brazilian child are entitled to PR immediately

Nitabb:
How long does one have to be in Brazil after birthing to get the Brazilian passport?

GlobeTrotter2:
normally you can apply for the passport after holding your PR for one year. Of course you need to prove your knowledge of the language and follow the process .

Sirianese:


Mexico need visa for USA don't mind that mongrel

tensazangetsu20:
Better to go to Mexico. The Brazilian passport is stronger but the Mexican passport offers more opportunities. For instance, Mexicans are liable for the TN visa. The same visa that Canadians use to work in the US. As a mexican citizen, you only need to live in Spain for 2 years to get Spanish citizenship and Spain is the strongest passport in the world now. The passport of mexico can be gotten 2 years after you birth your child there.

But definitely try the US and Canada first but if they can't work then Mexico it is. It's the only passport that gives you access to both of those countries. With Brazil passport you will still need visa and Brazil doesn't really have any friendly agreements with the US or Canada at the moment

Ijeamaka1:


brazil passport is 18th strongest passport with 173 visa countries while, Mexico passport is 23rd strongest and 162 visa countries, parents of the Brazilian child can apply for citizenship after one of been a permanent resident which you automatically get 10years PR by giving birth and also the grandparents get PR too ,not forgetting to include that if you already had a child prior to giving birth in brazil ,the child gets citizenship too as long as the child is below 10 years of age and can apply immediately after getting the PR , and does not have to wait for a year like the parents

Also just like Mexican citizens ,Brazilian citizens only need to live in Spain for 2 years to get Spanish citizenship and Spain is the strongest passport in the world now, Spain has the agreement with some selected countries ad brazil is among

And by ,MERCOSUR agreement Brazilians can travel Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru and Uruguay and get their residence without any prior arrangement ,live there for some couple of years and get their citizenship too


Brazilians now have automatic residence authorization in Portugal it was signed into force On March 1, 2023

UyaiIncomparabl:
Which of these countries are very likely to offer one a visa smoothly without hassles to birth a child? I am aware Canada has added to her rules thereby making them very stringent to meet. Likewise the USA. But, we are still willing to try despite the stringent requirements (last we checked). We are looking at either Brazil or Mexico presently and hoping that they grant us a visa. Thing is, the back and forth has been very exhausting inclusive of the hefty financial commitments. But, we still have our minds and eyes on Canada and the US especially Canada if there are easier ways to help us forge through with ease.

If there are other countries we can try that you know of that do not have "too much" stringent requirements and will offer citizenship (with strong values) by birth, please, kindly state them. It would interest me to know. So, do kindly share. Thanks.

Cc: Justwise

beautyuche:
Hi,

Let me add my two cents to this based on my personal experience.

I had my first child in the USA it was indeed a great experience having a blue passport-holding child. When it was time for the second child my USA visa had expired and could not get a date for quick renewal so I opted for two options and this was either Brazil or Mexico.

Brazil visa was very difficult to get and there was a lot of back-door gambling which would eat into the little fund saved for childbirth so I was left with Mexico. Now with Mexico, there was no appointment date however, with a visa from more than 28 countries you can gain access so I applied for a France visa. I arrived in Mexico had a baby, got the baby's passport, and guess what I got a Permanent residency.

My friend who used the same route and remained in Mexico now has her Mexican passport. Now someone on this thread mentioned that a Mexican can work in the USA because of the North American trade agreement. So in comparison to Brazil, I will say do Mexico.
What informed my decision also was fromNormad Capitalist I follow him on Youtube. A Mexican passport is a USA standard passport and the only two countries you may need a visa that may concern you are the USA and Australia and you will get them when you apply.

Let's talk about security, Every country has its shortcomings. However, while I was in Mexico as a black I moved freely and didn't experience any security issues. Remember first I was a Pregnant woman and next I was a Nursing mother going through with documentation. I do not speak Spanish but got an agent that helped with all of this so again if the USA and CANADA don't work out please have Mexico as an option. You might want to try Brazil as I also know a lady that had her child there and remained in the country for one year now her entire family have gotten the brazillian passport.

In the end just give your unborn child this beautiful gift while at it you might also be gifting your self a dual citizen at a meanial cost.

Nitabb:
How long does one have to be in Brazil after birthing to get the Brazilian passport?

tensazangetsu20:


You don't need a Mexican visa to visit mexico and birth your child there. You can get a UK visa which should be the easiest to get in Nigeria and use it to travel to Mexico and birth there.

beautyuche:

So I will advice to use any Schengen visa as the UK visa holders are being turned back.

beautyuche:
So for both Brazil and Mexico, parents get permanent residency immediately after birth. However, you need to remain in Brazil for one year to process a Brazilian passport while for Mexico its 18-24 months to process the passport.

In my opinion, both options are way cheaper when it comes to a second passport for the parents. This you can not get in the USA and Canada

tensazangetsu20:


Then the process has casted. A Schengen visa is very hard to get for Nigerian passport holders and most times the visa duration is very short. Imagine having just one week multiple entry visa. What's that gonna do. In the future, children will kill their parents for making them Nigerians.

Nitabb:
please is it possible to use my UK visit visa to fly to Brazil?

tensazangetsu20:


No you need a Brazil visa

Nitabb:
Brazil currently has no available appointment date from the Embassy's End at the moment

tensazangetsu20:


Then that sucks

tensazangetsu20:


Then the process has casted. A Schengen visa is very hard to get for Nigerian passport holders and most times the visa duration is very short. Imagine having just one week multiple entry visa. What's that gonna do. In the future, children will kill their parents for making them Nigerians.

Nitabb:
Does the other child not born in Mexico get PR too?

beautyuche:
Hi,

Let me add my two cents to this based on my personal experience.

I had my first child in the USA it was indeed a great experience having a blue passport-holding child. When it was time for the second child my USA visa had expired and could not get a date for quick renewal so I opted for two options and this was either Brazil or Mexico.

Brazil visa was very difficult to get and there was a lot of back-door gambling which would eat into the little fund saved for childbirth so I was left with Mexico. Now with Mexico, there was no appointment date however, with a visa from more than 28 countries you can gain access so I applied for a France visa. I arrived in Mexico had a baby, got the baby's passport, and guess what I got a Permanent residency.

My friend who used the same route and remained in Mexico now has her Mexican passport. Now someone on this thread mentioned that a Mexican can work in the USA because of the North American trade agreement. So in comparison to Brazil, I will say do Mexico.
What informed my decision also was fromNormad Capitalist I follow him on Youtube. A Mexican passport is a USA standard passport and the only two countries you may need a visa that may concern you are the USA and Australia and you will get them when you apply.

Let's talk about security, Every country has its shortcomings. However, while I was in Mexico as a black I moved freely and didn't experience any security issues. Remember first I was a Pregnant woman and next I was a Nursing mother going through with documentation. I do not speak Spanish but got an agent that helped with all of this so again if the USA and CANADA don't work out please have Mexico as an option. You might want to try Brazil as I also know a lady that had her child there and remained in the country for one year now her entire family have gotten the brazillian passport.

In the end just give your unborn child this beautiful gift while at it you might also be gifting your self a dual citizen at a meanial cost.

RealWealth22:
How can I contact you?

beautyuche:
I don't know how it works on Nairaland now and rarely check my Yahoo mail connected to Nairaland. Any suggestion?

Gerrard59:


A Nlder since 2006.

Nice to see such accounts still being active.

beautyuche:
I stroll in from time to time. Nairaland has been a blessing, especially with my travel. I make sure to pay it forward whenever I can.