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Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 2:26pm On Mar 01 |
Antiislaam:What point would that be? Jesus Christ disassociated Himself from religious leaders and all of their teachings. So what point is there to be had by trying to associate with Him with the same? |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 2:30pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:so the way you choose to see it (opinions mind you) is that : (a) no one else in Scripture mentioned the 24 elders (b) John probably made it all up Aren't those equally defences you offer from your major point of ignorance of what is contained in Scripture? |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 2:53pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:So only John know about the 24 elders not even Jesus or Moses can affirm that... Chaiii |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 2:56pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:How exactly did you come to confirm that only John knew of the 24 elders he mentioned? Did you read through the entirety of Scripture for this or like before you assume that simple opening your trap in ignorance is all it takes to answer these things? |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 3:29pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:One of people said it that its only John that know about the 24elders |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 3:31pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:So because an anonymous source claimed that only John knew of the 24, you took it on yourself to broadcast it as a fact? Are you for real? |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 3:34pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:Ok how many people claimed they know about the 24elders in the bible....except John no others prophet said anything about them including Jesus |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 3:40pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:You have to open your brain and read the book to find the answer you seek. One thing I know for a fact is you have never in fact done so before now. So any more attempts to speak more on this from a point of ignorance would be just more of the same from you.. |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 3:44pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:I want to hear from you that why I asked you..I want to you to give me a better verdict than the opinion you are Making from your head |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 3:49pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:I do not have a second witness given that I have yet to do research into the claim made by John. So all I have is an opinion to offer. If you have a more informed opinion then bring it. |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Iamanoited: 3:50pm On Mar 01 |
THEY'RE THE 24 RIGHTEOUS SPIRITS EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE AND DECISION MAKING GOING ON. |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Iamanoited: 3:52pm On Mar 01 |
THEY'RE THE 24 RIGHTEOUS SPIRITS EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE AND DECISION MAKING GOING ON. Orisa37 |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by MightySparrow: 3:54pm On Mar 01 |
Antichristian. Antichristian!! Antichristian!!?
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Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 4:28pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:Your opinion is not welcoming in the scripture joor shift abeggiii 🤣 You should look for concrete evidence to backup your claim |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 5:15pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:Scripture is not about that which is welcoming but rather about realizing that which is of God and of His Truth. As I explained, I assume the 24 elders to have been the Prophets of Old -- they came into the world before Jesus Christ-- all of whom came with mandates from God Himself--- they were of Heaven ---, Holy(dressed in White), and Righteous men(wore crowns) who also spoke of the coming of the New agreement which they are all realized was the end goal to come(they worshipped the Lamb of God). If you have concrete evidence to disprove my claim, go for it. Otherwise, stay away from topics you are unwilling to do some homework on. |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 5:28pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:You don't assume in what you don't know..you just bring your ideology into scripture you don't know about making claimed your assumption should be th fact who have seen them to know there attribute because someone seeing them in dream baa Ala magọ ooo |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 5:32pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:Stop saying things you don't know or understand for Pete's sake! Right there in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ urged His followers to use the understanding they have in order to then have more understanding given to them by the Father - Mathew 13 vs 10 - 17 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 28 & Matthew 25 vs 29 ..... My current understanding is what I have to use. Again, if you have evidence to refute the claims made, bring it on, or stay your lane. |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 5:35pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie:Ehen to you your own understanding to understand what the father said ....I see where the problems lies 1 Like |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:Na your own understanding I go come use? Abeg, Stop yammering, please! |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by advocatejare(m): 8:22pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:Stop lying. There is no where in the Quran where Allah is referred to as king not to talk of King of Kings ! Which English translation is this? You’re just trying to insert that is not there as being there. The word you translated as King is Malik, if Malik means King then Al-Fatiha vs 4 should read “King of the Day of Recompense.” but all the standard English translation never used king and since you yourself knew that it doesn’t make sense, you decided to leave surah 1:4 out of your fabrication of list of verses you gave to erroneously named Allah a king |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Expanse2020(m): 8:32pm On Mar 01 |
advocatejare:Man Arabic language a single words can be translated to three to four word in English the Arabic language is so reach and broad..so stop arguing King can be translated to ruler / just/dominion /judge depending on how it's used so stop spew nonsense and check the verses I showed you... Show me in the bible where Jesus said, I am the God, worship me And if you really think with this ayat you put here ..you should tell us who is the King of the day of recompense.. Who is the ruler of the day Who is the Dominion of the day Who is the judge of the day Nobody except Allah the King of kings, Lord of lords King then Al-Fatiha vs 4 should read “King of the Day of Recompense.” |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by advocatejare(m): 8:40pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020:You’re the one spewing nonsense here, Tel me the name of the English translation of the Quran that you used, it must have been from fabricators like you. Yusuf Ali, Sahih International and other standard English translation didn’t use King! |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:29pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020: In a nutshell, allah's Paradise is a brothel place where you'll be having and acting porn right? No wonder you wan die on top Muhammad and his idol allah |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:41pm On Mar 01 |
Expanse2020: You mean the bible written by your imamu has a place where his own Jesus perform ablution by washing his dirty mouth, hands, legs before banging his head on the ground Expanse2020: So at this your age you cannot differentiate between face down and continuous banging of head on the ground bah? How come you escape from primary 6 Expanse2020: Jesus Christ sings in the Bible (Matthew 26:30 and Mark 14:26) Don't allow your Alfa, imamu brainwashed you henceforth If singing and drumming is a pagan act, it means you're also practicing paganism in Islam by drumming what you called BANDIRI (Samba) when singing Expanse2020: allah is baal the idol Muhammad inherited from his pagan father Abdullahi |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:52pm On Mar 01 |
AntiChristian: The good news is that the 24 elders are there to worship God. Will you tell this house the good news on how the brothel (aljanah) will look like with your houris |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 10:59pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie: Did I said Jesus Christ associate himself with any religion or preach religion we should follow? Stop wasting my precious time here if you find it difficult comprehending my statement I'm here to face anyone following Muhammad, islam and the idol called allah and that is why I am Antiislaam |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 11:03pm On Mar 01 |
Antiislaam:Christianity is a religion and you attempted to associate Jesus Christ with it. Deny it? |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 11:29pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie: Go and suck your momma's breast maybe you'll sleep. If you don't get it, 4get it then Antiislaam: Antiislaam: Guy please stop wasting my precious time here, I don't deal with people like you |
Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Kobojunkie: 11:34pm On Mar 01 |
Antiislaam:
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Re: Who Are The 24 Elders? by Antiislaam(m): 11:39pm On Mar 01 |
Kobojunkie: So point out to where I associate Jesus Christ with Christianity |
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