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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Viruses: 5:31am On Mar 08 |
ahjay: I will ask him to use his naira debit card, I was worry it won't work because of the £1 delivery fee mentioned. Thank you very much. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Viruses: 5:35am On Mar 08 |
wallg123: Is trainline I used. I only got booking reference, no tickets.. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by headofschool: 7:25am On Mar 08 |
I'm sure it's not just now that Baba got the info of visabot, Baba why you no deh drop update na koda bayii o. If the guy no drop am like dat, Baba fit no just talk go there😕 Lexusgs430: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:33am On Mar 08 |
Any thoughts on this absolute shower of a budget? I call it a shower because it give me nothing. Absolutely nothing. I have my issues with reeves but watch the tories get their butts kicked in parliament https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmA9lBktls?si=9wMumy-asG2v6qgH They should come and be going mbok. I don tire |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wallg123: 7:52am On Mar 08 |
Viruses:Call trainline. They might tell you how your friend can pick the train ticket at the airport 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by LionInZion: 8:33am On Mar 08 |
Viruses: Another option is to send the reference number to the person. If the station has manned ticket booth, your friend will only have to show the staff there the reference and they'll print the ticket for them. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:12am On Mar 08 |
giselle237: It is the home office who decides if you have the right to appeal - it is not automatic. If they decide that the case has no merit, then there would be no appeal right- only a judicial review which is a form of an expensive administrative review. These are frequently refused and then the claimant can only make a fresh claim submission IF there is new evidence such as a material change to their initial circumstances. You are not allowed to just make a brand new asylum application. While the asylum process is going on (which can be concluded quickly for a meritless case), the claimant will be mandated to report to a specific immigration reporting centre - it might be weekly, bi monthly or monthly. If their application is refused, they are at risk of detention and removal when they report. If they fail to report, they are classed as absconders and might trigger a home office search/raid and removal. It would also make any future human rights applications more complicated. This is why some people choose to lay low if there is an unrealistic chance of asylum success (which tbh would apply to the vast majority of Nigerian asylum applications) because you bring yourself under the direct radar of the home office. People rarely reveal all of the details of their journey as an illegal immigrant- most times it's impossible to express the amount of mental, emotional, physical and financial stress they have gone through. It is no where near as easy as it might seem. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by profemebee(m): 10:36am On Mar 08 |
then add the fact that it is hard to get jobs paying even minimum wage.. Home Office don't smile with employers of illegal immigrants etc.. https://www.gov.uk/penalties-for-employing-illegal-workers People need to watch UK Border Force show to see the reality of things.. how people suffer for years earning way below minimum wage and are still caught It is one thing to say she should do this and that and stay lowkey... It is another thing to actually see it through.... We need to also remember advance in technology and now share code have made things easier for people to be detected/caught/monitored A perfect example is the Live Facial Recognition thats been introduced by the Met Police which helps locate people on a ‘watchlist’ who are sought by the police; https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/fr/facial-recognition-technology/ Like i stated earlier, going back to Nigeria should always be an option... even if it is the last resort.. I know it it hard, very hard but sometimes reset/replan is another strategy Even if she has a baby with someone as recommended, how will she be able to pay childcare fees? she needs to work, etc.. and earn something through out the legal tussle to remain in the country.. then add the emotional angle to the tussle Zahra29: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by eniola1010(m): 11:02am On Mar 08 |
Samguine: You have been too helpful 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:25pm On Mar 08 |
profemebee: Yes you're right, it's much more difficult in practice to lay low these days because of stricter rules/penalties and better technology. As you've said, the emotional torture involved as well. When you're of working age and you're not able to work for close to a decade, maybe more -how does the individual take care of themselves, never mind their family back home. Any hospital treatment outside of A&E would bring fresh worry because you are not entitled to NHS. It may sound like I'm being a Debbie Downer or scaremongering because people are calling out 7 years like it's so simple - in practice this could even end up being 9 years because the home office can take their time to respond - there is no 2 week SLA here. If it gets refused, appeal etc that would add more time and costs. It's not a life one should opt for if there are any other viable options. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jesmond3945: 12:30pm On Mar 08 |
cbn4main:many interviews mean one thing. You are about to get the job. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by humblemoi: 1:47pm On Mar 08 |
profemebee: Please forgive my ignorance, what is the positive of a right to work share code, if all i do is attend an interview and pass off a share code via email (offline) as against showing my BRP in an interview or to the HR personnel online. I am just trying to understand if I am missing something with the logic. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by profemebee(m): 2:16pm On Mar 08 |
i'm not sure I understand the question.. you asking for the benefits? it is just a paperless form of Biometric Residency Permits with the BRP cards getting phased out by end of this year... Employers for example will need a code to verify the employee has a right to work and what type of work .. seamlessly they say.. The codes are generated, verified and maintained within Home Office. They also save costs of physical cards which can be expensive as they're made in large volumes.. Some things aint clear for me though... when BRP is phased out, how does one show at immigration that they have the rights to come into the uk? generate a code at the airport? Maybe some clarifications will be made before the end of the year.. humblemoi: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Santa2: 3:27pm On Mar 08 |
Gerrard59: Having to sell of your porperty if immigration waka goes south isnt a bad thing in itself. Infact I could argue that its a great financial investment if the property has gained in value over time of ownership. Buy the time the sale goes through and you get back your equity gained, one would be better off as against money paid to landlord that just goes down the drain. 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 4:05pm On Mar 08 |
Santa2: Leave them to continually justify their lazy mindset........🤣😜 One is on a work visa, continually renewing for 11 years........ Imagine the equity appreciation, if said person bought property at year 2 (9 years of gathering equity)........... Sells on the 12th year....... That person would have a better financial cushion (in whatever country they return to ).........😂😁 RENT MONEY REMAINS DEAD MONEY 💰🤑........ I had a colleague I was begging to buy a property, many years ago ..... After too much begging, he eventually gave me rest....... Infact, he bought two properties (eventually)...... He and his family relocated to the USA , about 3 years ago....... He sold both properties, paid cash for his property in the USA + change to spare ........ He now lives mortgage - free .......😂 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by cbn4main: 6:32pm On Mar 08 |
jesmond3945: Thanks for your encouragement |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by cbn4main: 6:33pm On Mar 08 |
Schoolhike: Thanks for the reply. I appreciate |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 7:29pm On Mar 08 |
LionInZion: This is the best option. Those machines reject cards seemingly at random sometimes and I imagine that risk is higher with foreign cards. So your guest doesn't get stranded. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 9:15pm On Mar 08 |
Do not give yourself a headache.. some have even laid low for 20 whole years and after 20 years file via the long residence route. How can a person decide to be illegal for 20 years? But it is what is in vogue + there is a route(loophole) to this. On facebook they are in their thousands and hundreds of thousands . Asylees get free accommodation, free meals, free nhs services, free prescriptions, kids must be registered in schools, living stipends, you get more if pregnant or if you have children…. Forget all the reporting stuff… Asylum seekers are not worried. The numbers are enormous. Now healthcare workers are been trained on how to manage asylum or refugee seekers because the numbers are huge and they are now a very growing part of the system especially the babies, children and young adults. I can tell you for a fact, a lot of people choose to stay back and hide for whatsoever number of years than go back home. They are doing cash in hand jobs, not paying taxes and still getting all of the above. It is what it is. They are not suffering as you say. If they were, they would perhaps choose to return home or go somewhere else. The era of going to Croydon or Liverpool to sign is also not as strict as it used to be. All I am saying is that no matter the route, as long as all these loopholes - asylum, refugee, 7 years, private life, human rights, discretionary leave, 20 years etc continue to exist, there is nothing you nor I can do. Zahra29: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:57pm On Mar 08 |
giselle237: Lol no one's getting a headache. I was presenting the realities of the challenges that people on the outside often don't realise, but I guess as long as Facebook says that (Nigerian?) asylum seekers and illegal immigrants are having a grand old time - getting free houses, spending money and other perks, no worries or fears - just chilling and enjoying life until they get their papers 10 or 20 years later, then it's cool. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jesmond3945: 10:12pm On Mar 08 |
Lexusgs430:is possible to sell a property when mortgage term is still running? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 11:17pm On Mar 08 |
jesmond3945: Absolutely....... Would be disadvantageous, if property is in negative equity.........😂 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by elengine: 9:31am On Mar 09 |
Omo, the day I heard of someone who has been an illegal immigrant here for close to 19 yrs now. Fear catch me. Does it mean these people will be avoiding police, not able to own car etc for their lives |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jesmond3945: 10:16am On Mar 09 |
Lexusgs430:wow thanks. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:17am On Mar 09 |
How luxurious is your life if you get 50 pounds per week for accommodation, food and toiletries? If you are pregnant you get an extra 5 pounds per week. I dont understand why people say their lives are luxurious, it is not 3 Likes
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:40am On Mar 09 |
missjekyll: All this are being paid for with my tax money yet I’m not entitled to public funds. Na wa oo 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 12:11pm On Mar 09 |
You can work. They are not allowed to. Thats a foolish policy enacted by the labour government. Let them work while their claims are going through the courts. the country gets the tax and doesn't have to support them. The asylum seekers have a sense of purpose and more money for themselves. Its a win for everyone. I dont think anyone should have public money until they ve paid into it. 5 years is a bit much though. lavida001: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:19pm On Mar 09 |
elengine: Typically yes - no documents means no car, no legal work,no house, laying low from the popo,no new/ bank accounts, staying far away from any airport etc, But don't be afraid, Facebook says it's now en vogue to be illegal and it's no longer a suffering life. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 12:24pm On Mar 09 |
missjekyll: I don't think it's foolish. It might not be working as a policy, but its aim is to serve as a deterrent of sorts. If anyone can turn up and claim asylum then start to work while their claims are heard, that becomes a draw. Of course this is allowed in the US and France, among others, which are major recipients of asylum seekers. It's interesting that so many asylum seekers pass through France and come to the UK instead - most likely because they feel that its easier to get under-the-table work in the UK than actual proper employment in France with its heavily regulated labour market (is it?). 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:27pm On Mar 09 |
missjekyll: They do grant right to work to claimants who have been waiting longer than 12 or 18 months for a decision. Although they are restricted to jobs on the shortage occupation list. The argument is that giving them unrestricted access to the labour market from day 1 would act as a stronger pull factor for intending boat crossers and false asylum seekers. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:33pm On Mar 09 |
Cyberknight: I think most feel that the UK is less racist than France, some have family members here and there's also the language barrier in France. But it's increasingly very difficult to get under table work here with the new immigration rules that stipulate fines of over £20k to employers and landlords found to be harbouring illegal migrants. The only businesses willing to take that risk imo are criminal enterprises or slave masters that take full advantage of people's desperation and pay them peanuts with zero rights. Businesses such as restaurants, car washes and others get raided on the regular by the home office via tip-offs etc 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 12:39pm On Mar 09 |
I wonder whether that has been the case in canada and the USA where they are allowed to work. The cruelty is mindbending. I am a refugee ,you keep me in a hotel room sharing with 3 other people i dont know on 7 pounds/day. I can't go outside without being harassed by people who hate me It speaks to the resilience of the human spirit that there are not more suicides than there are. What would Jesus do if he met an asylum seeker,I wonder? Would he treat them the same way? Zahra29: 1 Like |
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