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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by biznus: 4:55pm On Mar 09
Itsrm:


No auction on 20th. Next is 13th and then 27th.
Really? Meaning I can go to Stanbic this Monday or Tuesday to indicate interest in primary market
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 5:24pm On Mar 09
Itsrm:


No auction on 20th. Next is 13th and then 27th.

I believe auctions are 14 days apart, are you sure of these dates? I want to pull out funds from mutual funds to bid on the next auction, thanks.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 8:53pm On Mar 09
Foodempire:


I believe auctions are 14 days apart, are you sure of these dates? I want to pull out funds from mutual funds to bid on the next auction, thanks.

Normally, that's how it is but sometimes it happens that another auction will hold a week after depending on the calendar. With the first quarter calender posted on this page few days back, there is another auction next week.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Itsrm(m): 9:13pm On Mar 09
Foodempire:


I believe auctions are 14 days apart, are you sure of these dates? I want to pull out funds from mutual funds to bid on the next auction, thanks.

100% sure

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Itsrm(m): 9:14pm On Mar 09
biznus:

Really? Meaning I can go to Stanbic this Monday or Tuesday to indicate interest in primary market

Monday preferably. Some banks don't take instructions for Tbills beyond Monday.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 9:37pm On Mar 09
freeman67:


Normally, that's how it is but sometimes it happens that another auction will hold a week after depending on the calendar. With the first quarter calender posted on this page few days back, there is another auction next week.

Wao, I will miss the next week bidding then because fbnquest won't release funds until 48 hrs, I will get ready for the March 27th auction.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by debbydee(f): 8:26am On Mar 10
Shalom428:
Next week Wednesday, but you need to go to your bank on Monday to have your bid locked in .


Thanks for the information.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ogawisdom(m): 10:14am On Mar 10
Someone help out with this please

If I put 10m in TB @ 22% for 364days

And I compound ie didn't ask for up front payment of ROI, how much will I get at the end of the tenure.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ogawisdom(m): 10:21am On Mar 10
Odunharry:

Seems you opted for upfront interest payment. Backend is higher.

How does back end interest work?

Does it compound the interest?

Give example please
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 10:27am On Mar 10
1 trillion wink
nellybadas:
pls anyone with good knowledge?
what is the maximum amount of tbills a single individual can buy at once?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 11:27am On Mar 10
ogawisdom:


How does back end interest work?

Does it compound the interest?

Give example please
So for the secondary market rate.. There's option to choose between back end and upfront payment. The backend(getting your interest at the maturity is usually higher).

See attached below

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 11:31am On Mar 10
ogawisdom:
Someone help out with this please

If I put 10m in TB @ 22% for 364days

And I compound ie didn't ask for up front payment of ROI, how much will I get at the end of the tenure.
22/100*10,000,000*364/100.
You should be getting over 2m.

Do you intend to apply via your bank? You can try investment one financial service. Hit me up via mail.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Bennycollins: 1:07pm On Mar 10
aieromon:


What advantage does he then have as a primary market client?

This is the secondary market. Minus 10% WHT deduction still gives the same 18%.
is this available at every bank?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jidobaba(m): 1:09pm On Mar 10
Itsrm:


Monday preferably. Some banks don't take instructions for Tbills beyond Monday.
Do they only attend to this on-site now? I used to send TB instructions via email in the past but they're not even responding now. Gtbank.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by blkmum700: 2:06pm On Mar 10
Odunharry:

OK. If you can provide alternate fine. Heard next auction is on Wednesday. The earlier the better.

Shop
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by fatjo(m): 2:17pm On Mar 10
Hello guys. Please what is stanbic ibtc rate in last auction
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Itsrm(m): 3:32pm On Mar 10
jidobaba:
Do they only attend to this on-site now? I used to send TB instructions via email in the past but they're not even responding now. Gtbank.

They should attend to it as long as you have email indemnity. No idea why they aren't responding
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by safex(m): 3:44pm On Mar 10
Makes sense
donshady:


Net rate
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 10:25pm On Mar 10
blkmum700:


gmai
You can edit your post
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 10:26pm On Mar 10
jidobaba:
Do they only attend to this on-site now? I used to send TB instructions via email in the past but they're not even responding now. Gtbank.
Reach out to your account officer.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by blkmum700: 11:15pm On Mar 10
Odunharry:

You can edit your post

Oky
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 9:39am On Mar 11
ogawisdom:
Someone help out with this please

If I put 10m in TB @ 22% for 364days

And I compound ie didn't ask for up front payment of ROI, how much will I get at the end of the tenure.

The way I would compound it is by doing three consecutive Treasury bills, which would take a month plus.

For the first T-bills, I would put the #10 million at 21% (assuming this is the rate) and get #2.1 million upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #2.1 million at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #441 thousand upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #441 thousand at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #92.6 thousand upfront. At this point, I would stop and keep the #92.6 thousand.

At the end of the tenures, one year and a few weeks from now, they will start crediting one after the other: #10 million, then #2.1 million, and lastly #441 thousand plus the #92.6 thousand, which sums up to #12.633 million (profit of 2.63 million) . So, by compounding this way, you would make an extra #533 thousand. grin cheesy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by EduC(m): 11:21am On Mar 11
ositadima1:


The way I would compound it is by doing three consecutive Treasury bills, which would take a month plus.

For the first T-bills, I would put the #10 million at 21% (assuming this is the rate) and get #2.1 million upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #2.1 million at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #441 thousand upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #441 thousand at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #92.6 thousand upfront. At this point, I would stop and keep the #92.6 thousand.

At the end of the tenures, one year and a few weeks from now, they will start crediting one after the other: #10 million, then #2.1 million, and lastly #441 thousand plus the #92.6 thousand, which sums up to #12.633 million (profit of 2.63 million) . So, by compounding this way, you would make an extra #533 thousand. grin cheesy

Excellent!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by egojeny1(f): 11:44am On Mar 11
ositadima1:


The way I would compound it is by doing three consecutive Treasury bills, which would take a month plus.

For the first T-bills, I would put the #10 million at 21% (assuming this is the rate) and get #2.1 million upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #2.1 million at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #441 thousand upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #441 thousand at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #92.6 thousand upfront. At this point, I would stop and keep the #92.6 thousand.

At the end of the tenures, one year and a few weeks from now, they will start crediting one after the other: #10 million, then #2.1 million, and lastly #441 thousand plus the #92.6 thousand, which sums up to #12.633 million (profit of 2.63 million) . So, by compounding this way, you would make an extra #533 thousand. grin cheesy
Wow
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nakedman: 11:47am On Mar 11
ositadima1:


The way I would compound it is by doing three consecutive Treasury bills, which would take a month plus.

For the first T-bills, I would put the #10 million at 21% (assuming this is the rate) and get #2.1 million upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #2.1 million at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #441 thousand upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #441 thousand at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #92.6 thousand upfront. At this point, I would stop and keep the #92.6 thousand.

At the end of the tenures, one year and a few weeks from now, they will start crediting one after the other: #10 million, then #2.1 million, and lastly #441 thousand plus the #92.6 thousand, which sums up to #12.633 million (profit of 2.63 million) . So, by compounding this way, you would make an extra #533 thousand. grin cheesy


Compounding at its best.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 11:49am On Mar 11
ositadima1:


The way I would compound it is by doing three consecutive Treasury bills, which would take a month plus.

For the first T-bills, I would put the #10 million at 21% (assuming this is the rate) and get #2.1 million upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #2.1 million at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #441 thousand upfront.

For the next auction, I would put the #441 thousand at 21% (again assuming a constant rate) and get #92.6 thousand upfront. At this point, I would stop and keep the #92.6 thousand.

At the end of the tenures, one year and a few weeks from now, they will start crediting one after the other: #10 million, then #2.1 million, and lastly #441 thousand plus the #92.6 thousand, which sums up to #12.633 million (profit of 2.63 million) . So, by compounding this way, you would make an extra #533 thousand. grin cheesy

This new TB rate is now giving somebody a headache on TB vs MMF.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nakedman: 11:52am On Mar 11
NL1960:


This new TB rate is now giving somebody a headache on TB vs MMF.

I have been moving my funds to tbills. The 20% is no joke. mmf is still sitted at 12%. I can't open my eyes and lose over 8%

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 12:32pm On Mar 11
Nakedman:


I have been moving my funds to tbills. The 20% is no joke. mmf is still sitted at 12%. I can't open my eyes and lose over 8%

I did not move mine as the upfront interest might be too tempting to be spent. I have some educational expenses coming up within this period and i plan withdrawing the interest i have earned to solve most of them.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nakedman: 12:49pm On Mar 11
NL1960:


I did not move mine as the upfront interest might be too tempting to be spent. I have some educational expenses coming up within this period and i plan withdrawing the interest i have earned to solve most of them.

You can as well invest the interest or move the interest to your mutual funds if need be for emergency funds. Just saying. You shouldn't miss out of this 20% grin grin grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 12:54pm On Mar 11
Nakedman:


You can as well invest the interest or move the interest to your mutual funds if need be for emergency funds. Just saying. You shouldn't miss out of this 20% grin grin grin

If i move the upfront interest to MMF, the monthly interest from MMF will no longer be much. Upfront interest is good for payment of one year rent.

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