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| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ANTllSLAAM: 5:26pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:Did you agree with the author of Quran that Bible can be Torah, Injeel and Scripture? Even the word Bible appears in your glorious Quran, maybe you should send your frustration to the authors of Quran that including the word Bible in your hoely book Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer; |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 5:28pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ANTllSLAAM:You are a liar screen short and send It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who?? The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran. I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it. But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible. The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an. Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 5:30pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Goodlady:Those boko Haram and bandits are not true Muslims. Can a true Muslim bomb a mosjid? They are sponsored to tarnish the image of Islam |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 5:32pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Goodlady:To confirm that it was fabricated. Bible is filled with lies, contradictions. It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who?? The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran. I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it. But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible. The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an. Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Goodlady(f): 5:35pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:If he's a fake pastor, God ll open his yansh. But are you aware there are fake imams? You and Ohyoudidnt, shey fasting dey do una abnormally abi una drink tirah water?
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| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ(op): 5:35pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:Did I not tell you that your answer will betray the weakness of Allah. !? Allah need to be worshiped, so he created humans for the purpose! Does worshipping Allah inflate his ego? Why does Allah need to be worshiped? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob does not need to be worshiped. Thus He did not create man to worship Him. We actually were created to Enjoy Him. Please answer my two questions above! ahmedio2017:And you think this is an argument!? What name did the God of Abraham give to the Books of Moses? What name did the God of Abraham give to the Books of David? Can you show any evidence that Allah gave the name Torah to the Book of Moses? Or Gospel to the Book of Jesus? Or Psalms to the Book of David? Only the Allah of Mohammed gave both name (Islam) to his religion and name (Quran) for his book! The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did not do any of such! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Goodlady(f): 5:38pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:All you said, the world blv it's so with the Koran. Oya hug transformer!
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| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 5:40pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
TenQ:U go explain tire no evidence, all this are gibrish. Who named Bible? Just answer simple question. May be u should ask ur pastors. It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who?? The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran. I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it. But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible. The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an. Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Goodlady(f): 5:41pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:See this Mujaidu, they are muslims o! They are more genuine than you sef cos you this Ahmed wey do head like dîck cap, na hottest hell you dey go while boko haram & bandits and going to lava part. The problem withyskims like you is you don't denounce them aggressively. I expect supreme council if islam to v combated their radicalism but una just dey add up criminals to ya numbers. It's absurd! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 5:43pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Goodlady:It is ur generation that will enter hell fire. Your god said he made a mistake he created you. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 5:45pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Goodlady:Read what you wrote again, you are a baby sheep u never mature. So u knew nothing about Christianity just go and sit down. It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who?? The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran. I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it. But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible. The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an. Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 5:51pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
[quote author=Ohyoudidnt post=128972751][/quote]Let me ask U a question. The Torah Jesus held in his hand during his time, is it the true Torah or corrupt Torah? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 5:55pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:How did James the just die? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ(op): 5:57pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:What it shows is that 1. You are more knowledgeable than Allah who wrote the verses 2. The Qur'an is full of contradctory statements Which of the tow above is it? Here are the verses again: correct them please Are these verses from Allah errors? Qur'an 2:41 And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone. Qur'an 2:89 And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. Qur'an 2:101 And when there cometh unto them a messenger from Allah, confirming that which they possess, a party of those who have received the Scripture fling the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they knew not, Ohyoudidnt:Can the Book of Allah be distorted? I guess you have never read Qur'an 6:34 before. Can A person like me misinterpret your Qur'an? Can A person like me distort or corrupt your Qur'an? Too bad for you Ohyoudidnt:My question was: What is the meaning of the Word Bible? The Arabic word for Bible in the Qur'an is BOOK or KITAB (meaning Bible) Is it untrue that the Word Bible is an old English word meaning "BOOKS"? The word "Bible" comes from the Greek word "biblia," which means "books" or "scrolls."? Why is your mouth so heavy!? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 5:59pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:There are millions of Jews who have converted to Christianity. Read about messianic Jews. Regarding scholars reject the resurrection of Christ, pls about the Corinthians creed. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 6:12pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:All these emotional rants won't safe u. The most important thing is to seek the truth. Now U said we Christians don't follow Jesus Christ. Now jesus established the church. Jesus said to Peter, "You are Rock and on this rock I will build my Church." (Matthew 16: 18) Who are those that continue to sustain the legacy of the church Jesus established when he was on earth? Christians or Muslims? U said Muslims believe in Jesus. Jesus called God father, do U believe Jesus called God his father. Jesus taught his disciples to pray by calling God 'Our Father who art in heaven. Do U believe Jesus instructed his followers to call God father. U can't claim to believe in someone if U don't believe in his words. If U Muslims reject calling God father, then U are not following Christ. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 7:49pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
SIRTee15:My brother, Jesus calling God father doesn't mean biological father. Jesus said I'm going to my father my God and your God. He was referring to God and not biological father get that right. god said he made mistakes he created you. What can u say about this? god also regretted. Do you also believe that Almighty God can regret? god also worked and got TIRED imagine? Can God rest? Can something of fatigue touch God? To the extent that god had to RESTED. The church that Jesus Christ built how were they worshiping? Is it by clapping, dancing with another person's wife? If God is the biological father of Jesus then he is the biological father of disciples and you too abi? |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ANTllSLAAM: 8:21pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:I should screen shot what? ahmedio2017:Even Quran in different versions uses words like Injeel, Torah, Scripture, to represent Bible Paul the Apostle was like you slave before he met Jesus Christ. Why nagging Paul on every Christian's matter as if na him founded Christianity ahmedio2017:Even if it is written in 1 billion times, the author of Quran still make Bible as point of reference when you're clueless, hopeless and moribund ahmedio2017:Didn't you see scripture as used in some verses of Quran to refer to the Bible? ahmedio2017:Which word? Is scripture not the same as Bible I don't understand the kind of slaves on this platform, you guys are too moribund.. ahmedio2017:Did you believe in all versions of English translated Quran? Your fellow slaves didn't like some English versions of your war manual book, Quran ahmedio2017: |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 8:26pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:Doesn't matter. Did Jesus ever called God his father. Did he ever tell his disciples to call God father. That's my question. Not your literal or metaphorical aroye. ahmedio2017:Study the evolution of linguistic etymology in ancient languages. Then come back and discuss. ahmedio2017:What was Jesus response when he was told by the Pharisees that God rest on the Sabath day. ahmedio2017:So U agree Jesus established the church and Christians continue to sustain the church Christ brought from heaven. Don't worry about those who corrupt his church. They will be surely punished. Now tell me what happen to the caliphate Muhammed established. How far with the islamic caliphate? How is it faring nowadays. Don't U think Muslims have failed woefully to sustain the caliphate brought by Muhammad. ahmedio2017:God is my father because Jesus told me to call him father. Therefore I'm following the commandment of Jesus Christ. The question is can U call Allah father. If U can't, then U don't follow Jesus. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ(op): 8:39pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:And you think this is an argument!? You think braying like a donkey on heat helps you out? It seems Allah himself is ignorant of this to call us people of the Book! Or what name did Allah call us? People of which Book? Does Allah or his messanger even know? What name did the God of Abraham give to the Books of Moses? What name did the God of Abraham give to the Books of David? Can you show any evidence that Allah gave the name Torah to the Book of Moses? Or Gospel to the Book of Jesus? Or Psalms to the Book of David? Only the Allah of Mohammed gave both name (Islam) to his religion and name (Quran) for his book! The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did not do any of such! |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Ohyoudidnt: 9:54pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
TenQ:Let me start with your clear falsehood which proves you are incapable of honest discourse. You claim that the Arabic word for Bible is kitab? Do you know this is written in Arabic as كتاب. What translation to English do you have of this? Sincerely answer! If you can prove this means Bible then we may continue with you listing or discussing your claims of contradiction in the Quran however show proof that كتاب is the Arabic equivalent of Bible |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Ohyoudidnt: 10:02pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
SIRTee15:Did you read what you are replying to right? My submissions are in respect of Jewish belief in Muhammad not Jesus. In any case the Messianic Jews you refer to are more likely a smaller population than the Majority of Judaic Jews. Some sources suggest that there are around 300,000 Messianic Jews worldwide, while others estimate the number to be much lower. In comparison, the total Jewish population is approximately 14.7 million, according to the Jewish Virtual Library. You know very well the limitations of the Corinthians creed; who, when and why it was promulgated. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Ohyoudidnt: 10:06pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
SIRTee15:There is no direct evidence in the New Testament that Jesus held a physical copy of the Torah in his hands. However, there are numerous references to Jesus’ knowledge of and familiarity with the Torah. It is important to note that during Jesus’ time, physical copies of the Torah were not widely available. The Torah was typically written on parchment scrolls, which were expensive and time-consuming to produce. As a result, they were primarily owned by synagogues and religious institutions rather than individuals. It is unlikely that Jesus himself would have owned a physical copy of the Torah. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ(op): 10:09pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:I asked you a simple question which would have saved you this display of ignorance. Is it untrue that the word "Bible" comes from the Greek word "biblia," which means "book"? Secondly, Are you affirming the words of Allah about our scripture in Qur'an 2:41, Qur'an 2:89 and Qur'an 2:101 or are you refuting them? Thirdly, Can the Book of Allah be distorted? I guess you have never read Qur'an 6:34 before. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by TenQ(op): 10:20pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:The individuals rarely owned scriptures in those days sir. Luk 4:16-17: "And he (Jesus) came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered to him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,..... " Any scripture to be read would be given for reading in the synagogue sir! Unlike some unknowledgeable ignorant unlettered persons who thought that Alexander the Great aka Dhul qarnayn was a prophet of Allah and women have reproductive fluids flowing from their taraib (chest bone/ribs) or that the sun set in some murky waters etc |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 11:45pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
TenQ:Ok it is now book and not Bible again? Where did u see Bible before sebi u were quoting Quran sebi u said Quran mention Bible u go explain tire. Who named Bible? Just answer simple question. May be u should ask ur pastors. It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who?? The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran. I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it. But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible. The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an. Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ahmedio2017(m): 11:52pm On Mar 17, 2024 |
ANTllSLAAM:Still u didn't answer the questions maybe u should ask ur pastors Who named Bible? Just answer simple question. May be u should ask ur pastors. It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who?? The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran. I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it. But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible. The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an. Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 12:53am On Mar 18, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:I can't believe this level of ignorance can come from U. Luke 4. Jesus went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, 17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[f] 20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 He began by saying to them, “Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” So the Torah Jesus read and quoted from....is it the true Torah or the corrupt Torah. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 12:58am On Mar 18, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt:Tell me the limitations of the Corinthians creed. Because last time I checked, scholars agreed it was a creed people were confessing within 5 years of jesus resurrection. The Corinthian creed- 1 Corinthians 15 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 Above was a pre Pauline testament that Paul himself received and passed on to the Corinthians. So even b4 Paul became a Christian, people were already going about and saying Jesus Christ resurrected; and modern scholars agreed this is true. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Ohyoudidnt: 4:59am On Mar 18, 2024 |
TenQ:Fantastic work at upholding your dishonesty. Ohyoudidnt:Is the above without a definition of Bible or you didn't see It? What trash do you speak about Greek language and Bible? Is the word Bible explicitly said in the Quran and particularly in vs 10:94? Show the word and stop creating answers to questions you weren't asked. You claim كتاب (kitab) in Arabic means Bible where did you get this translation from? Show it here if you are a bit honest. As stated before: Ohyoudidnt:Once you can prove Kitab is Bible you are then worthy to ask other questions. |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by ANTllSLAAM: 5:12am On Mar 18, 2024 |
ahmedio2017:How many times am I going to answer? Indeed you are slave just because you wish to remain ignorant. Ask your imam for the solution to your problem ahmedio2017:Let me help you in another way, if you have dictionary at home check for the meaning of word Bible you might likely regain your senses back. It seems this your ramadhan is affecting your brain ahmedio2017:Is it according to your own stupidity that the Holy Book has no name? Even quran your war manual book called it Bible, did you know more than the authors of your quran ahmedio2017:Repeating same thing again and over again. If Quran is mentioned in 1 billion times, the author of your war manual book still make Bible as the point of reference when you're in a state of dilemma, clueless, hopeless and moribund. Must I be telling you everything slave? Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer; ahmedio2017:But you do read quran isn't it? allah might have blindfolded you when reading Holy Bible. Didn't you see scripture as used in some verses of Quran to refer to the Bible? Maybe you should go for eye test ahmedio2017:Still repeating same thing.. Slave, you'll need a very hot camel urine with zamzam water aswear ahmedio2017:It's the English versions of your war manual book quran that exposes many stupidities inside your book. Had it been quran wasn't translated to English, your shameful and disgraceful verses wouldn't been exposed ahmedio2017:So up till now I haven't answer you abi? You lack comprehensive skill then. As I did to your chief slave here on nairaland by sending him to Montessori school, I will also do the same for you. All you have to do for me is just drop your name in full lobatan |
| Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by Ohyoudidnt: 6:29am On Mar 18, 2024 |
SIRTee15:Kindly clarify so you are well understood. Did Jesus read or have the Torah between his hands or the Scrolls of Isaiah? Are the Scrolls of Isaiah the same thing as the Torah? Assuming I get you right. What Jesus is said to have read in Luke 4:18 -19 is a rendition of Isaiah 61:1-2? Tell then why the discrepancies as Luke 4:18-19 reads: 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,o because he has anointed me to proclaim good newsp to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” While Isaiah 61 reads 1. The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified. 4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations. Concerns are emboldened. Which captives or prisoners did Jesus free? Which old wastes were raised and or repaired? Does this not show confirmation with Quran 2:79 So woe to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”—seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned? Or a distortion of Isaiah 61 in what is related in Lukec4:18 isn't obvious? |
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