Michael547:

So why can't I meet and worship with those who believe in Jesus? You have not told me about anyone that you've met that worship God the way you do. You seem to be in isolation. Have you found those that worship God and believe in Jesus? If yes who are they? Stop beating around the bush.

Straybullet:


You speak from the perspective of those who need to worship on Mount gerizim like the woman at the well, or Jerusalem like the Jews.

True worship has nothing to do with space or matter.

It is done in spirit.

Jesus Christ taught is this.

I hope his teaching is acceptable to you.

You can never k ow who a true worshipper is....no man knows the son except the father

Again Jesus taught us this

Again I hope his teaching is acceptable to you

You will meet people who say they belong to Jesus, you will love them and relate with them

But you will never be able to know the certainty of their conversion experience, and they will never know yours

The Lord knows them that are his...Paul in 1 timothy

God will lead you in spirit to people of all sorts, you will do God's will to them, but that will never mean they are definitely God's true worshippers

God alone knows his own


Worship is between you and God

Love is between you and people

Loving people is a must whether they believe or not

The true worshippers are united only by the Lord who knows them

Michael547:

Are you a true worshipper of God?

Straybullet:



Yes I am

Know ye not yourselves?...how that Jesus christ is in you?...2 cor 13.5

I know my own self

Michael547:

Lol....How can you be a true worshipper of God when you exist in space and matter and not in the spirit world?

Straybullet:


I don't understand this question

To be in space time does not mean you can't be in the spirit , if you understand what it means to be in the spirit

Michael547:

What does it mean to be in the spirit?

Straybullet:


It means to be experientially aware of the spirit realm

You are brought into the immediacy of on-goings in the spirit realm.

You participate in the reality of that realm

Michael547:

You don dey visit heaven be that oo😁..
Do you usually see God there?
Do you also usually see other participants there too?

Straybullet:


I'm answering because I feel you're serious.

If it becomes a joke, I'll not reply anymore

Michael547:

Ok sorry I'm serious
Do you usually see God there?
Do you see other participants there too?

Straybullet:


Ok

So the revelation of Jesus Christ is the work of the father and the heart of the spirit of worship.

In the predetermined moadim visitations of the elect, the Christ is unveiled and encountered.

That plugging into the divine moadim is a destiny fulfilment of the elects unique role in the church and body of christ.

Now you're getting me worked up!

Michael547:

Who are those other people in the body of christ that you see there....have you seen anyone of them on earth here?

Straybullet:


You still don't get it.

No man knows the son except the father.

While a moadim encounter can involve potential interaction with human beings, there is no knowing of the true worship status of any human except by the father

Michael547:

So we can never know anyone else who worships God.
So how were worshippers of God like paul, peter and Timothy and other able to know each other and work together?

Straybullet:


I already told you. You will encounter people, and you're to love and relate with them.

But that will never prove that they are true worshippers.

Paul worked with others who deserted the work also like demas.

So not all he worked with turned out like timothy, yet he worked with them.

If he had believed they were true worshippers because of the work they shared he would have made a terrible mistake.

Michael547:

So the same people that i see in the spirit realm and also in real life are not true worshippers of God?
I don't understand your point oo.
Are you saying if I see you in the spirit realm and I see you in real life, you are not a worshipper of God?

Forget about all those who deserted Paul. Was Paul and Timothy fellow worshippers of God?
Did they know each other?
So what stops me and you who are worshippers of God from seeing each other in the spirit realm and also knowing each other on earth here?

Straybullet:


I really don't know why it's confusing to you.

1. You can never be sure a person is a true worshipper of God. That knowledge is not yours to have but God's.

2. Worship is between you and God only


3. You should relate with people whether they are true worshippers or not

4. Your relating with people doesn't make them true worshippers.

5. You must know your own self, and your relationship with God. You can't know that of others.

Michael547:

So even when I see you in the spirit realm worshipping God, you are still not a true worshipper?
Are you saying I can never see and know another person that worship God on this planet earth?
Yes or no?
Infact it means that you are liar for telling me that you are a worshipper of God.

Straybullet:



1. I am emphatically saying you can never be sure that anyone is a true worshipper.

2. You should not take my word for it, that i am a worshipper. You can't be sure that I am. You can never know.

3. You will relate with people , that will not make them true worshippers. No man can know those whose names are in the book of life


Again you don't need to know if a person is a true worshipper. You are commanded to love all men. And if people say they are worshippers, so be it.
Either way it doesn't impact on you, for its not your place to know

Michael547:

Then you are a LIAR for telling me that you worship the true God.
Is this how you worship the true God with lies?

Was paul not sure that Timothy was a true worshipper when they worked and worshipped God together? Oga you are confused.
If you can't identify a fellow worshipper of God on earth today, then you are not worshipping the true God.
The true God always makes sure that His worshippers are united and worship him together irrespective of the location on earth.

Michael547:

Then you are a LIAR for telling me that you worship the true God.
Is this how you worship the true God with lies?

Was paul not sure that Timothy was a true worshipper when they worked and worshipped God together? Oga you are confused.
If you can't identify a fellow worshipper of God on earth today, then you are not worshipping the true God.
The true God always makes sure that His worshippers are united and worship him together irrespective of the location on earth.

Straybullet:


Woww

Take it easy with the insults please

If you have a problem it is with the bible which teaches that only God knows them that are his
And that only the father knows the son

Are you angry that you can't identify those going to heaven

You can insult the bible if you hate its teaching

No one knows the son but the father

Only the Lord knows them that are his

Simple.
That is God's word.

Take it or leave it



Again Paul was sure of no one.

Demas was with him like Timothy, yet demas abandoned them and left to pursue his love of the world.

Paul couldn't have known demas would leave.

So the word of God is clear...you cannot know those who are true worshippers...except for yourself, because bible says...know ye not yourselves?

Michael547:

Who is asking you of those going to heaven?
Am I asking you of those who would later not worship God?
Did apostle Paul not know people like Timothy who joined him In serving God?
Who are those worshipping God today is the question that I have been asking you.
You have claimed that we can never know anyone who worships God on earth.
But you Said you worship God, is that not hypocrisy?

Straybullet:


So now you can see you are the one who is confused!

So you don't know that true worshippers will ALL make heaven?

You don't know that any one who worships in truth will DEFINITELY make heaven?

Jesus said...all who the father has given me no man can take away...

...I give them eternal life and they will never perish

You see your quarrel is not with me but with the bible

If you can identify thr true worshippers then you have identified those who will be in heaven

Michael547:

Lol.....oga you are just an isolated self acclaimed worshipper of God.
If you don't have fellow worshippers that are your brothers and sisters in connection with worshipping God, then you are not Worshipping the God of the Bible.

Straybullet:


Hahaha

Now you're scared of the Bible 😄 🤣

Quote Bible nah...

Oga you're part of the denominational nonsense going on

Repent bro

Michael547:

Lol....you must be funny....so If i worship God with others, then am I sinner? Then Jesus and his disciples must have been sinners since they knew each other and worshipped God together.
Do you see that the joke is on you?

Straybullet:


Your comprehensive skills are good but not good enough.

Worshipping together doesn't meaning you all are true worshippers oga.

Judas iscariot worshipped with the others but perished

So who is the joke on now?

😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄

Michael547:

You are the one with a comprehension problem.
Oya who are those that you worship with?
Can I know them?
This is where I will know whether you have sense or not. At least Jesus disciples knew themselves.
Who are those that you worship with?