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| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by basadenet: 5:27pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Ogbonaiya onu is a nice person I liked personally but there is no way he would have been a president in 1999.. how ? From where? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by LOVEALAIGBO: 5:30pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Slytiger:It can’t go unnoticed that you’re slyly moving the goalposts to try and align with your narrative! When your narrative goes right, you pick up the goalpost and inch towards the right…..when your narrative goes left, again you pick up the goalpost and inch towards the left! Oh so it’s no more about the ‘political value’ of the individual in question, but that of his family!? Political-value by association if you like! Hope you’re aware the older brother Shehu also tried to be president? How come the purported ‘Yar’Adua family value was nowhere to be found when he needed it to become president? You’re confusing general northern Fulani hegemonic influence for that of a single family! Then you brush off the question on GEJ by saying dude got ‘lucky’! What value did a emaciated and confused OBJ have when the northern hegemony brought him out from prison to coronate him president? You claim OBJ wasn’t the choice of majority of Yoruba, that Falae was….meaning Falae possessed the ‘political value’ of which you speak! So how come said ‘political value’ didn’t help him become president in 1999? Fact of the matter is you will look for any excuse, no matter how ridiculous, to try and ‘justify’ your desire to see no Igbo becomes president of Nigeria! When your argument of ‘not building bridges’ is bursted, you then move on to ‘political value’! In Nigeria, group hegemonic scheming is what produces its presidents, and it has nothing to do with ‘political value’! |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by ObiCertificate: 5:40pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
LOVEALAIGBO:But Igbos don’t need the presidency? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by PHIPEX(m): 6:15pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Flame333:Because you hate being told the truth. Iff he had insulted Omo Igbo, you would have smiled and crawled back to your room |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Chibuezem(m): 7:39pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Penguin2:Sad but true |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Chibuezem(m): 7:41pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
franchasofficia:Thank you bro Jisike |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:49pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Penguin2:so how will ibo win? By force? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:53pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
peleson1:Na so Tinubu is what again? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:56pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
franchasofficia:and they destroyed the country |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:09pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Macphenson: What sacrifice You mean their sacrificed They did not make any sacrifice They destroyed the country A lot of people never knew Ogbonnaya Onu used his personal money to register APC. He was among the finest politicians ever in the history of this country. He would have been one of the most brilliant Presidents this country would have ever produced.What did he do for his state His ministry Nothing to show |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by seeme2(f): 8:35pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Senator Sanni is just using the head of you Gen Zs. Probably he is trying to use one of you to warm his bed. Late Onu contested under APP truly in 1999 but everyone knew he was an unserious contender. He came in late just to not make it look like its a Yoruba versus a Yoruba affair. In fact I remember very well a cartoon mocking his candidacy. |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Heavensent01(m): 10:19pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Penguin2:Their votes were divided, this make them a very sensitive geopolitical zones, not putting their eggs in one basket unlike southeast that abuse, hate, make their politicking obvious with their ranting and wailing online Igbo have the probability of getting Biafra than being Nigeria President with their kinsmen too much hate and toxicity, if there corrupt politicians like other region in Nigeria can push for their exit So Yoruba that Queue to vote for obi in Lagos will see you abusing his tribe and leaders will still go and queue for you again in the next election? Except if they're daft |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 11:38pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
Heavensent01:Divided? How? Obi won in 1) Delta 2) Cross River 3) Rivers 4) Edo Atiku won in 1) Bayelsa and Obi came second 2) Akwa Ibom and Obi came second. Now, I ask you again, who did South South vote for? Who won the region? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by oyatz(m): 11:39pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
JAMO84:Sen Sheu Sani knew his target audience |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Menclothing1: 11:56pm On Apr 13, 2024 |
He couldn’t even get one vote in primary not even from his state What did he achieved as a gov ? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Heavensent01(m): 12:11am On Apr 14, 2024 |
Penguin2:Okay obi will win 2027 then, south south and southeast will vote for him and the borehole states |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 10:33am On Apr 14, 2024 |
Heavensent01:Who won Nasarawa? Who won Plateau? Who won Abuja? Tinubu won Benue by 3k votes margin. Obi got over 300k votes in Kaduna. So, what do you mean by votes of Southeast and Southsouth? |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Heavensent01(m): 7:59pm On Apr 14, 2024 |
Penguin2:I have told you obi will win again then we go push am enter asorock |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by tunjilana: 10:16pm On Apr 14, 2024 |
Penguin2:Now I see how naive you are, there was no PDP before August 1998 when it was formed and elections happened few months later. So I don't know where u intend to see political capital and as for Obasanjo getting the ticket, that was simply because his friends from the North worked for him to win the primaries against the likes of Alex Ekwueme and Co, as shown below OLUSEGUN OBASANJO 1,658 67.98% ALEX EKWUEME 521 21.36% DON ETIEBET 106 4.35% GRAHAM DOUGLAS 71 2.91% JIM NWOBODO 59 2.42% PHILIP ASIODU 12 0.49% FRANCIS ELLAH 12 0.49% Whatever Obasanjo did to make his "other Nigerian friends" trust him enough to get their delegates to deliver for him is his business, despite not being loved or wanted in the South West. The result from the primaries shows ck3arly that the east still contested against him and only supported him during the general elections when the race was mainly a two-horse raise with both candidates coming from the southwest |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 11:15pm On Apr 14, 2024 |
tunjilana:You dared to accuse me of naivety but you are the one who is actually pathetically naive and innocent of history. Do you know the group called G-18? Do you know the ones called G-34? They are a group of 18 like minded Nigerians that came together in 1997 and decided to dare the military regime of Sani Abacha of then. From 18 they later became 34. That group was led Dr Alex Ekwueme. As of this time, Obasanjo was still in prison and was not part of them. This Group of 34 (G-34) later became the founding fathers of PDP. And when they scheduled their convention in 1998, they were going to ‘hand’ the party’s presidential ticket to their leader, Alex Ekwueme, until the military mafia threw up the Obasanjo joker and used money to buy the ticket for Obasanjo in Jos. Remember that Obasanjo was an outsider to the group that founded the party. So, when I talk about political capital of the Yoruba in PDP when they were handed the presidential ticket in 1999, you keep shut and listen and learn. Educate yourself further below https://www.nairaland.com/4620973/see-pdp-founders-history-party |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by tunjilana: 5:11am On Apr 15, 2024 |
Penguin2:Of all the groups that actively fought the military regime, Nadeco was the most active. Most of those killed or exiled during Abacja regime were not Igbos and even the Obasanjo you referenced was in jail for trying to "topple" the same military regime along with Yaradua, despite this, the average yoruba man at the time still didn't see Obasanjo as bn active enough in the struggle. The Igbos were known to be very very passive in that struggle with most of them citing the outcome of the June 12 riots affecting their business as the reason for being passive. All this village gist And lies should stop. It us the same way some of you will claim to have supported Abiola whereas 3 our of the 4 existing Igbo states at the time voted for Tofa! As for Ekwueme, he properly Participated in the primaries and even got over 509 votes to lose in the primaries. In your naivety you believe they actually hand over presidential ticket to people? Especially that of a party with prospect like PDP? No they don't, politicians align around the sentiments that pays them the military at the time and Northern politicians knew that Abiola's people the yorubas needed to be compensated and those in PDP aligned behind the candidate they could trust which is OBJ, Ekwueme never backed out or dropped his ambition to support OBJ, he tested his popularity at the primaries and lost! Now as for the yoruba race at that time , we didn't even give 2 about PDP. We knew our genuine heroes in the struggle, we knew the core figures that have bn there since the Awo days and we rallied round them in our own party AD and merged with northern friends who were sympathetic to the course in APP to produce a joint ticket...Olu Falae was our choice hence OBJ couldn't even win his local govt. So other Nigerians picked him against the will of Yorubas and made him president in a process that the Igbos equally have a shot and lost! |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by loffyloffy: 5:55am On Apr 15, 2024 |
Penguin2:The point is BAT performed better than expected in the south south..based on all the noise by the obedient before the election. Obi on the other hand perfomed less than expected.. The only state in dispute is rivers..even if BAT didnt win rives, he came a good 2nd BAT was second in Akwa Ibom, Edo and cross river.. Thats a strong performance for a muslim/muslim ticket in an heavily christian populated SS. He even manged to push Obi into third place in Akwa Ibom. |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 8:00am On Apr 15, 2024 |
tunjilana:You are just contradicting yourself up and down. At one breath you claim the presidential ticket of PDP wasn’t handed to Obasanjo, in another length you claim Yorubas and Northerners rallied round who they could trust. What does “rallying round” mean if not handing over? Was the rallying round out of Obasanjo’s high politicking? No! It was based purely on the sentiments of the need for Southwest to be compensated for Abiola. So I don’t understand why you are running around. And about NADECO, that’s the history of the group we are talking about, is it? I produced the link I referenced because we are talking about the origin of PDP and who had the higher stake of getting the party’s ticket at their convention. Ekwueme was the leader of the group that later became PDP and would have had the presidential ticket for of the party handed to him before the military stepped in. Ekwueme was betrayed for Obasanjo. It’s only comparable to a situation where Buhari would have stepped in before the APC convention and direct the party structure to work for Nwajiuba in 2022 when we knew that if the contest is left open, Tinubu will defeat Nwajiuba which is what eventually happened. |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by tunjilana: 6:38pm On Apr 15, 2024 |
Penguin2:Na everything be betrayal to una. People make choices based on whatever appeals to them but to you is betrayal maybe it is the people that voted for Ekwueme in the primaries that actually betrayed Obasanjo and the people that voted against Falae including Igbos are actually the ones that betrayed yoruba people cos you define betrayal based on your own personal expectation without thinking deeply that everyone has a choice and they have the right to make it and if their decisions don't favor you then you look inwards and create the sentiment/character/coalition that will make them decide for you next time. Why did the sentiment for a yorubaman to be president in 1999 High enough to get northerners and generals in the army to support it? Was it not because yorubas stood up and fought bravely against the injustice metted against one of their own in the person of Abiola!....and by fighting I don't mean confronting well armed military men with shakabula but by leveraging their other strength through the pen and international coalition to surface the evil metted upon them by the military. The question to you is how are the Igbos addressing the injustice metted to one of them in person of Peter Obi by the PDP who the region served for 2 decades only to deny one of their own access to the platform to contest election thus forcing him to a lesser known party which he had to bootstrap in few months. How are you addressing the Igno delegates who still collected money from Atiku and voted for him in the primaries rather than boycott it in protest. Did you see what the yorubas did for AD in 1999, do you think Falae had any money to give anyone at that time versus a military-backed Obasanjo yet the later couldn't even win his local govt. How resolute and determined are the Igbos to queue behind one voice and use their individual strength, wealth, knowledge etc to win the presidency to themselves rather than allow individualism and greed to prevail. Na to dey fight for share in APC where you contributed little rather than going back home to restrategise and speak loudly with one voice and let the nation know you are ready and serious and this is no longer about money or personal greedy ambition but winning for the region |
| Re: Ogbonnaya Onu Would’ve Been President In 1999 Instead Of Obasanjo – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 8:50pm On Apr 15, 2024 |
tunjilana:After PDP (Wike) forced Peter Obi out of the party, what did they get from the region? Or you do not know that choosing to vote Obi en masse was a decision to punish PDP’s unfairness to the Southeast even though we know it was going to smoothen the path to presidency for Tinubu? And remind me, when Igbos have demanded anything from APC. Or you confusing the APC as a party and an APC government? |
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