The African man is the original, perfect and complete human.
We here see it as ridiculous, self disservice and low-brainer, trying to compare ourselves with people who have lost their melanin pigmentation.
The people originate from us and not the vice versa. It is from inferiority complex, and narcissistic behavior to want to see less pigmented people as superior and then try to attach to them by force.
Narcissistic behavior of wanting to claim, show and prove that your are superior (and more good looking) to others. And that you belong to a special place and better people in oder to raise your deflated ego and improve your lack of self-confidence and self-esteem; while look down on others who you are just your equals or who in many ways are better than you.
CHARACTERISTIC OF: Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms may vary from person to person. The most common symptoms include:
1. Being overly boastful, exaggerating one’s own achievements 2. Pretending to be superior to others 3. Lack of empathy for others 4. Looking down on others as inferior 5. Monopolising conversations 6. Impatient, angry, unhappy, depressed or has mood swings when criticized 7. Easily disappointed when expected importance is not given 8. Always craves for “the best” in everything 9. Has a very fragile self-esteem They: 10. Have an unreasonably high sense of self-importance and require constant, excessive admiration. 11. Feel that they deserve privileges and special treatment. 12. Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements. 13. Make achievements and talents seem bigger than they are. 14. Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate. 15. Believe they are superior to others and can only spend time with or be understood by equally special people. 16. Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important. 17. Expect special favors and expect other people to do what they want without questioning them. 18. Take advantage of others to get what they want. 19. Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others. 20. Be envious of others and believe others envy them. 21. Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited. 22. Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they view as criticism. They can:
1. Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special recognition or treatment. 2. Have major problems interacting with others and easily feel slighted. 3. React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior. 4. Have difficulty managing their emotions and behavior. 5. Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change. 6. Withdraw from or avoid situations in which they might fail. 7. Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection. 8. Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, humiliation and fear of being exposed as a failure.
nabiz: so can you tell us where igbos migrated from. If you can't tell then keep quiet
who said Igbo people are migrants?
We have been habitating this land for thousands of years. Leja Nsukka perfected iron smelting and were extremely good at it. You have their artifacts dating thousands of years. Check out Igbo-ukwu artefacts too. These towns have been habited thousands of years before there was anyone like Abraham
According to the Rabbinate, “the presence of Israelites along the Niger River had been known by Jewish authorities in the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Lithuania, and Suriname.
THE JEWISH HAD KNOWN ABOUT THE IGBOS, THEY READ THE BIBLE AND WERE ABLE TO USE COMPASS TO PINPOINT THE EXACT LOCATION THAT WE ARE JUST FINDING OUT NOW BECAUSE OF THEM.
'BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA AND CUSH, THEIR LAND IS DIVIDED BY RIVERS'. GOD OWN SPECIFIC WORDS AND DIRECTION
UncleAyo: The African man is the original and complete human.
We here see it as ridiculous and self service, trying to compare ourselve with people who have lost there melanin pigment.
The people originate from us and not the vice verser. It is from inferiority complex, and narcissistic behaviour to want to see less pigmented people as superior and then try to attach to them by force.
CHARACTERISTIC OF: Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms may vary from person to person. The most common symptoms include:
1. Being overly boastful, exaggerating one’s own achievements 2. Pretending to be superior to others 3. Lack of empathy for others 4. Looking down on others as inferior 5. Monopolising conversations 6. Impatient, angry, unhappy, depressed or has mood swings when criticized 7. Easily disappointed when expected importance is not given 8. Always craves for “the best” in everything 9. Has a very fragile self-esteem They: 10. Have an unreasonably high sense of self-importance and require constant, excessive admiration. 11. Feel that they deserve privileges and special treatment. 12. Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements. 13. Make achievements and talents seem bigger than they are. 14. Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate. 15. Believe they are superior to others and can only spend time with or be understood by equally special people. 16. Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important. 17. Expect special favors and expect other people to do what they want without questioning them. 18. Take advantage of others to get what they want. 19. Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others. 20. Be envious of others and believe others envy them. 21. Behave in an arrogant way, brag a lot and come across as conceited. 22. Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they view as criticism. They can:
1. Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special recognition or treatment. 2. Have major problems interacting with others and easily feel slighted. 3. React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior. 4. Have difficulty managing their emotions and behavior. 5. Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change. 6. Withdraw from or avoid situations in which they might fail. 7. Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection. 8. Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, humiliation and fear of being exposed as a failure.
Published Feb 16, 2022 + Follow On the 14th day of January 2022 [12 Shebat 5782], the Jewish Rabbinate of the Obadya Alliance [Dayan Jacob de Oliveira, Dayan Eliezer Tabor, Dayan Yehonatan Elazar-DeMota, Rabbi Hananiah Cohen, and Rabbi Haim Ovadia] ruled that the Igbos of Nigeria are descendants of ancient Israelites. According to the Rabbinate, “the presence of Israelites along the Niger River had been known by Jewish authorities in the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Lithuania, and Suriname. Rabbinic letters addressed to the Igbos by Chief rabbis: Dr. Solomon Hershel Lewin, David Meldola, and the Gaon of Vilna (Elijan Zalman), support the idea that there was contact between European Jewish communities and Igbo Israelites. All of the correspondence from the aforementioned rabbinic authorities address the Igbos as “brethren of the Children of Israel.” Accordingly, there is no doubt of their origins, nor of their halakhic status as Israelites.”
According to the Rabbinate, while there is yet an exhaustive academic genetic study of the Igbos, the data of the majority of those who have reported their autosomal and y-chromosome DNA, supports that their ancestors migrated from the Levant Basin, sharing genetic links with Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews alike. The Rabbinate noted the fact that rabbinic authorities during the Songhai Empires were aware of Israelites in Igboland, which leads to the logical conclusion that they treated Igbos as Israelites.
The final conclusion of the Obadya Alliance Rabbinate was that “Igbos are to be treated as Israelites, in every sense of the word, and also their priestly and Levite lineages should be upheld as valid.” The Rabbinate advised that upon the return of the Igbos to Omenana (what you do in the Land), they should be circumcised [if they hadn’t performed it already], say the sheheḥeyánu afterwards, and partake in the kola nut ceremony with their brethren, as is customary among Igbos.
My personal joy with this ruling is the attention it may draw, which may also trigger more scholars to do more research about Igbos, what the Igbos offered the world in the past, what they are offering the world now, and what they would offer the world in the future. As democracy is under assault, the Igbos are democratic to the core and stand out as the most culturally democratic ethnic entity globally. The world may have a look at the Igbo traditional system of government, which has survived despite many years of British rule and Nigeria’s deliberate marginalization.
It is interesting that the Obadya Rabbinate addressed Igbos as Israelites, not as Jews. They also affirmed Omenana (what you do in the Land) as the authentic original religion of the children of Israel. Dr. James Horton Africanus Beal had, in his 1868 book, West African Countries and Peoples, British and Native: And a Vindication of the African Race, described Igbo religion as Judaism mixed with pagan practices. In another book, The story of the Niger: A record of travel and adventure from the days of Mungo Park to the present time, Published 1888, author Robert Richardson observed, "The religion of the natives is almost pure idolatry; but some slight traces of Judaism may be discovered in it - a circumstance which seems to indicate that some stray wanderers of the Hebrew race must long ago have found their way to these regions, and in the gradual course of time become assimilated to the natives both in appearance and customs, leavening the races around them, however, with a few of their own ideas."
With this validation of Omenana as Israelite religion, Jewish and Igbo scholars should come together to fill in the gaps created by years of exile between Omenana in Africa, and Judaism in Europe. With Omenana poised to go mainstream, this learning process between Jews and Igbos would be invaluable for both groups, as they compare notes, as there could well be traces of Christianity in both modern Judaism and modern Omenana.
The Igbo Osu practice (Nethinim), which is rooted in Omenana has been both obdurate and pertinacious to modern Igbo society. These were temple servitors known from the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Chronicles. Scholars are divided as to whether they were actually slaves or property of the Temple. While Ezra 8:20 says that they had been set apart by David “to attend the Levites,” 1Chronicles 9:1-2 describes them simply as servitors like the Levites. To the Igbo, Nethinim or Osu are a "caste" that should not intermarry with free-born Igbo. Unfortunately, despite 200 years of Christianity in Igboland, with the creed “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28), the Osu still suffer discrimination.
In Talmudic times the Nethinim were put on a level with bastards, and their descendants, male and female, were interdicted from marriage with Israelites for all time (Yeb. ii. 4, viii. 3); this is said to have been established by David (Yeb. 78b) or by Ezra (Num. R. viii.). Nethinim were allowed to marry only proselytes, freedmen, bastards, and foundlings (Ḳid. viii. 3). In tables of precedence they are reckoned very low, coming after bastards in Yer. Hor. iii. 5 and Yer. Yeb., viii. 5. The Igbos may learn how to solve the Osu problem from the Jews. Since Christianity did not solve this problem, maybe Judaism will.
For someone who has worked on this subject for decades, digesting this ruling and its ground-shattering significance would be like peeling the multiple layers of an onion, with tears in your eyes. The most significant, in my opinion, is that the genocide against the Igbos between 1968 and 1970 would now be addressed as genocide against Israelites, highlighting the shared destiny of both Jews and Igbos as descendants of one father, Jacob, whom God renamed Israel.
The Igbos have suffered more genocide, perennial massacres, ethnic cleansing, discrimination, and marginalization in Nigeria. Igbos are perceived as a market-dominant minority, a resented “outsider” ethnic group. In a White House memo dated Tuesday, January 28, 1969, to President Nixon, former Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger described the Igbos as “the wandering Jews of West Africa, gifted, aggressive, westernized, at best envied and resented, but mostly despised by their neighbors in the federation.” Just as the world was called upon to answer the Jewish Question, the world has neglected to even entertain the Igbo Question. My hope is that this ruling may draw global attention thereto.
The ruling was signed by Dr. Dayan Yehonatan Elazar-DeMota, who has a Master’s degree in Anthropology and Religious Studies from Florida International University, and a PhD in International Law from the University of Amsterdam.
You may find the original copy of the ruling here - Obadyah: Igbos Are Israelites
Yeah I'm pretty much convinced
Yeah the so called descendants are over 40 million people world wide while Israel we descended from are merely 15mln people only. How did it happen? It means Igbos are a very ancient tribe way older than Jewish people. No tribe can multiple in 10s of million in just 3 to 4 thousands years. Ndi Igbo bu ndi ochie ndi okpu na ndi gboo. The Jew wannabes in Igboland should go back to middle east to possess their possesion.
Yeah the so called descendants are over 40 million people world wide while Israel we descended from are merely 15mln people only. How did it happen? It means Igbos are a very ancient tribe way older than Jewish people. No tribe can multiple in 10s of million in just 3 to 4 thousands years. Ndi Igbo bu ndi ochie ndi okpu na ndi gboo. The Jew wannabes in Igboland should go back to middle east to possess their possesion.
U DID NOT ARGUE WITH THE BIBLE WHY?
Isaiah 18:1-2 Isaiah 18:1-2 King James Version (KJV) Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia: that sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled!
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 The Message (MSG) Doom to the land of flies and mosquitoes beyond the Ethiopian rivers, Shipping emissaries all over the world, down rivers and across seas. Go, swift messengers, go to this people tall and handsome, This people held in respect everywhere, this people mighty and merciless, from the land crisscrossed with rivers.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 New American Standard Bible - NASB 1995 (NASB1995) Alas, oh land of whirring wings Which lies beyond the rivers of Cush, Which sends envoys by the sea, Even in papyrus vessels on the surface of the waters. Go, swift messengers, to a nation tall and smooth, To a people feared far and wide, A powerful and oppressive nation Whose land the rivers divide.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 New Century Version (NCV) How terrible it will be for the land beyond the rivers of Cush. It is filled with the sound of wings. That land sends messengers across the sea; they go on the water in boats made of reeds. Go, quick messengers, to a people who are tall and smooth-skinned, who are feared everywhere. They are a powerful nation that defeats other nations. Their land is divided by rivers.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 American Standard Version (ASV) Ah, the land of the rustling of wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia; that sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of papyrus upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation tall and smooth, to a people terrible from their beginning onward, a nation that meteth out and treadeth down, whose land the rivers divide!
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 New International Version (NIV) Woe to the land of whirring wings along the rivers of Cush, which sends envoys by sea in papyrus boats over the water.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 New King James Version (NKJV) Woe to the land shadowed with buzzing wings, Which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, Which sends ambassadors by sea, Even in vessels of reed on the waters, saying, “Go, swift messengers, to a nation tall and smooth of skin, To a people terrible from their beginning onward, A nation powerful and treading down, Whose land the rivers divide.”
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 Amplified Bible (AMP) Woe (judgment is coming) to the land of whirring wings Which is beyond the rivers of Cush (Ethiopia), Which sends ambassadors by the sea, Even in vessels of papyrus on the surface of the waters. Go, swift messengers, to a nation [of people] tall and smooth (clean shaven), To a people feared far and wide, A powerful and oppressive nation Whose land the rivers divide.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 New Living Translation (NLT) Listen, Ethiopia—land of fluttering sails that lies at the headwaters of the Nile, that sends ambassadors in swift boats down the river.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 The Passion Translation (TPT) Ah, the land of whirring wings, that is beyond the rivers of Cush, sending their messengers by the way of the Nile in papyrus vessels gliding on the water! Go, you swift messengers, to a tall, smooth-skinned people feared far and wide, to a mighty conquering nation whose land the rivers divide.
Share Read Isaiah 18 Isaiah 18:1-2 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV) Ah, land of whirring wings that is beyond the rivers of Cush, which sends ambassadors by the sea, in vessels of papyrus on the waters! Go, you swift messengers, to a nation tall and smooth, to a people feared near and far, a nation mighty and conquering, whose land the rivers divide.
Bulldozer90: it is a lie. You guys are not "proud blacks" Yorubas are the biggest "suckers" for fair skin in the world. There have been several laughable attempts to link Yorubas to ancient Israel without a single ounce of evidence, or at least, to make an inclusive claim that all southerners in Nigeria are Jews, all ending as failure.
Even on nairaland, such thread abound.
If you are proud and don't have inferiority complex, you shouldn't be in a thread about Igbo origin where Yoruba is not mentioned.
We are proud Black Africans we are still Thanking God for it
Ps: Do you think your indabosky Pastor Odumeje doesn’t bleach?
Why should I argue with the Bible that was brought to us less than 200 years ago? Millions of pur ancestors lived and died without knowing the existence of the Bible.
Why should I argue with the Bible that was brought to us less than 200 years ago? Millions of pur ancestors lived and died without knowing the existence of the Bible.
WELL, IGBO ISRAELITE ORIGINS IS DOCUMENTED IN THE BIBLE.
ANY ARGUEMENT MUST START FROM THE BIBLE.
U MUST FIRST DISPROVE THE WORD FROM GOD'S OWN MOUTH.
Why should I argue with the Bible that was brought to us less than 200 years ago? Millions of pur ancestors lived and died without knowing the existence of the Bible.
THE BIBLE IS SPECIFIC, IT COUNTED OUT ETHIOPIA TO THE EAST, FOLLWED BY SUDAN TO THE WEST AND SAID BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA/CUSH. POINTING US WEST.
THEIR LAND IS DIVIDED BY RIVERS. (RIVER NIGER AND RIVER BENUE)
I place fact before you deal with it. How come descendants become larger than the Jews we came from? A branch from one tribe out of 12 tribes of Israel became larger than the whole in just 3 thousand years. No be juju be dat?
Why should I argue with the Bible that was brought to us less than 200 years ago? Millions of pur ancestors lived and died without knowing the existence of the Bible.
AT LEAST U DID NOT ACCUSE US OF WRITING THE BIBLE.
You keep on referring to the Bible, same Bible that was written mostly by the Jews.
Who would they have claimed to be the original child of God if not themselves?
There are so many flops in the bible as the writers have their motives.
Of all the unoccupied lands back then, God couldn't promise Abraham any of that but the one already occupied by people.
Is that truly voice of God or fabricated story to back up the unjust conquered the land?
U CANNOT SAY THE BIBLE IS INACCURATE EITHER BECAUSE ON REVIEWING THE MAP, WE HAVE A PEOPLE WHOSE LAND IS DIVIDED BY RIVERS, BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA AND SUDAN. (NILE RIVER)
THEY ARE A LIMITED/SPECIFIC PEOPLE TOO, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO MANY PEOPLE EITHER.
U CANNOT SAY THE BIBLE IS INACCURATE EITHER BECAUSE ON REVIEWING THE MAP, WE HAVE A PEOPLE WHOSE LAND IS DIVIDED BY RIVERS, BEYOND THE RIVERS OF ETHIOPIA AND SUDAN. (NILE RIVER)
THEY ARE A LIMITED/SPECIFIC PEOPLE TOO, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO MANY PEOPLE EITHER.
THEY WROTE THAT WITHOUT SEEING, WHERE IT WAS.
IT CAN ONLY BE GOD.
Is it God himself who wrote the bible or human beings?
Anyone can claim to have heard from God, Shekau used to claim same before he was terminated
NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ABLE TO DISPROVE ANY WORD OF THE BIBLE, RATHER ON RESEARCH THEY HA\VE ALL FOUND EVIDENCE THAT IT IS TRUE.
I CAN SHOW U WHERE THE BIBLE PROCLAIM THE FAITH OF GAZA THAT U WITNESS TODAY.
THE BIBLE LONGS SAID IT WILL BE DESTROYED.
ANOTHER PLACE THE BIBLE SAID WILL BE DESTROYED IS DAMASCUS IN SYRIA., IT HAS NOT YET HAPPEN BUT U WILL WITNESS IT TOO.
Hahaha, Like Noah sending invitations to all the Animals across the world back then to come and board his ark because of the pending flood.
Noah was like Keere oo to all the Animals around and in far, you are invited to come and board my ark because of the flood, how to get to the ark's destination, that is story for another day.
Lions were best friends to Buffalo, the friendship was topnotch, The Noah's ark was so big that all the sharks were compressed in one space while snakes, rabbits, antelopes were locked up together..
Hahaha, Like Noah sending invitations to all the Animals across the world back then to come and board his ark because of the pending flood.
Lions were best friends to Buffalo, the friendship was topnotch, The Noah's ark was so big that all the sharks were compressed in one space while snakes, rabbits, antelopes were locked up together..
Just one of many
I KNEW U WOULD RUN TO NOAH, THAT IS WHERE YOU ALL RUN TO BUT IT IS THE WORST PLACE FOR YOU BECAUSE THE GREAT FLOOD IS WELL DOCUMENTED AMONGST ALL PEOPLE ACROSS THE ENTIRE CONTINENTS OF THE WORLD.
I KNEW U WOULD RUN TO NOAH, THAT IS WHERE YOU ALL RUN TO BUT IT IS THE WORST PLACE FOR YOU BECAUSE THE GREAT FLOOD IS WELL DOCUMENTED AMONGST ALL PEOPLE ACROSS THE ENTIRE CONTINENTS OF THE WORLD.
Bro, why don't you bother to reason that above scenario logically no disrespecting.
The bible story about flood is just normal Tsunami that follows mostly after earthquake. Animals have natural instincts to know about natural disasters, so if earthquake had happened somewhere earlier, the coastal area around need to be evacuated.. Ancient people have their way of solving issues..
But Animals around the world boarding Noak's ark na fable story for bed time
Bro, why don't you bother to reason that above scenario logically no disrespecting.
The bible story about flood is just normal Tsunami that follows mostly after earthquake. Animals have natural instincts to know about natural disasters, so if earthquake had happened somewhere earlier, the coastal area around need to be evacuated.. Ancient people have their way of solving issues..
But Animals around the world boarding Noak's ark na fable story for bed time
I never said there is no God, I am only referring to the flops in some of the bible stories like as God as a real estate agent have the power to promise Abraham lands that are already occupied by people out of all the unoccupied lands back then
AT LEAST U DID NOT ACCUSE US OF WRITING THE BIBLE.
Us is who? Ndi ichie anyi ha ama ihe ana akpo Bible? As for you quoting some champters to justify your Jewish origin I am not surprısed even fake pastors quote Bible to deceive their sheeples.
Look at how these people have continued with this lie and it's looking like truth. Igbo people are Igbo people and not children of Israel for goodness sake.
What type of colonization is this?
Na ipob dey get time for all this nonsense talk na.
Look at how these people have continued with this lie and it's looking like truth. Igbo people are Igbo people and not children of Israel for goodness sake.
What type of colonization is this?
A lie cannot look like truth, unless it is the truth.
