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LordReed:
I have answered your questions now answer mine.

That, my Lord, would be the day.

TenQ:
Please tell him to answer the Question because we want to learn

How can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?
How will you quantify the software?

Lemme ask him

LordReed, as our dumdum professor with a PhD from dumdum college, kindly educate us

triplechoice:
Apart from tools,there are alternatives to knowing something. Ask a doctor to know that

See, a software is not the same as your God. Stop fooling yourself

I'd say the software is more like the God books that their pastor codes into their heads, but of course the pastor might code them with his own garbage understanding, so garbage in garbage out, as they are proving here.

The God books (software) themself are not garbage though, least not according to atheist me, because if this particular software were not coded into them they'd be much less intelligent than they currently are.

budaatum:
It's damn hard discussing with language challenged individuals who don't know what the words they use mean!

Tangible, means real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced.

Software in any machine is real and not imaginary. It is able to be shown, touched, or experienced! But I don't think you can say the same about spirits, or can you?

Everytime you open your mouth, you reveal how ignorant you are.
A Software is not the hard disk drive nor the CPU nor the Ram but the information written on them. The software in a Machine is REAL but not tangible. You can't touch it nor feel it by any mechanical means.
Only with another software will you be able to detect or interact with the information (software program)!

SMH!

AuthorMan:
The guy got you and the only thing you can say is to insult him?

Above is from your very first post on this thread, and below is your very first response to me.

Did you insult because I got you, or do you need a mirror so you can better see yourself?

AuthorMan:
You are guys are actors.
You act smart but remain the most stupid of humans.

TenQ:
Everytime you open your mouth, you reveal how ignorant you are.
A Software is not the hard disk drive nor the CPU nor the Ram but the information written on them. The software in a Machine is REAL but not tangible. You can't touch it nor feel it by any mechanical means.
Only with another software will you be able to detect or interact with the information (software program)!

SMH!

The software is the code it is written from and in! It can be typed out on a piece of paper and put it in front of your naked eyes so you can see it for yourself and touch it too!

That said, please explain what you use to detect spirits.

budaatum:
Software itself is tangible, since you can very easily observe it's physically existing code.

I thought you read books: where did you learn this?

A Software in a machine is NOT tangible (you can't measure its mass or energy or dimension with/without time) but is REAL

The software program is NOT the HDD, or CPU or Flash Drive or CD etc. Those are mediums on which the software codes are written (media where the program can exist)

TenQ:
I thought you read books: where did you learn this?

A Software in a machine is NOT tangible (you can't measure its mass or energy or dimension with/without time) but is REAL

The software program is NOT the HDD, or CPU or Flash Drive or CD etc. Those are mediums on which the software codes are written (media where the program can exist)

Budaatum desperados is making him stagger like someone that has drunk much alcohol...

U can't blame him
During his time in school, it was a local typist they used to teach them computer science
Maybe he thought all they punched and typed is software
Forgive his arrogance ignorance

budaatum:
The software is the code it is written from and in! It can be typed out on a piece of paper and put it in front of your naked eyes so you can see it for yourself and touch it too!

That said, please explain what you use to detect spirits.

I can tell you don't know anything about programming.

What you write as human readable instructions on paper is not the software.

Hardware is the physical medium of the computer
Software is the non-physical instructions in appropriate hardware of the computer.

It is called software because it is not tangible. You load the software unto the hardware from an appropriate memory device.

This is why when you load a machine with a software from an appropriate storage device, the software doesn't dissappear from the storage device as it is just copied unto the machine.

Aemmyjah:
Budaatum desperados is making him stagger like someone that has drunk much alcohol...

U can't blame him
During his time in school, it was a local typist they used to teach them computer science
Maybe he thought all they punched and typed is software
Forgive his arrogance ignorance

I will be gentle on him. His lack of knowledge is sincere unlike others who wouldn't even attempt to apply sense to what they say

TenQ:
What you write as human readable instructions on paper is not the software.

Software is the non-physical instructions in appropriate hardware of the computer.

Tell me. What is the relationship between the "human readable instructions on paper", and "instructions in appropriate hardware of the computer"?

TenQ:
Those are mediums on which the software codes are written (media where the program can exist)

Is software code not tangible?

budaatum:
Tell me. What is the relationship between the "human readable instructions on paper", and "instructions in appropriate hardware of the computer"?

The human readable instruction on paper is meant only for the human being (it is useless to the target machine)

It may be
1. An algorithm (logical sequence of instruction)
2. A High level Programming Language Eg Python, C/C++, Java, etc
3. Assembly Language (Low level human readable language)


The High Level language or the Assembly language is Interpreted or Compiled by an appropriate Software program called a Compiler or Interpreter into a machine readable or machine executable code which are sequences of logical zeros and ones

The sequences of the logical zeros and ones written in any appropriate hardware medium is the software.

budaatum:
Is software code not tangible?

No it isn't.

The medium on which it is carried is tangible but the software it contains is NOT.
The software code is a sequence of machine readable sequences of logical Ones and Zeros acting on data which also is stored as logical sequence of Zeros and Ones

TenQ:
No it isn't.

The medium on which it is carried is tangible but the software it contains is NOT.
The software code is a sequence of machine readable sequences of logical Ones and Zeros. acting on data also stored as logical sequence of Zeros and Ones

How are those "Ones and Zeros" created please?

TenQ:
The human readable instruction on paper is meant only for the human being (it is useless to the target machine)

It may be
1. An algorithm (logical sequence of instruction)
2. A High level Programming Language Eg Python, C/C++, Java, etc
3. Assembly Language (Low level human readable language)


The High Level language or the Assembly language is Interpreted or Compiled by an appropriate Software program called a Compiler or Interpreter into a machine readable or machine executable code which are sequences of logical zeros and ones

The sequences of the logical zeros and ones written in any appropriate hardware medium is the software.

Slowly, we are getting there.

Is the "High Level language or the Assembly language" that is "Compiled by an appropriate Software program called a Compiler or Interpreter into a machine readable or machine executable code which are sequences of logical zeros and ones" tangible or not?

budaatum:
How are those "Ones and Zeros" created please?

They are symbols for TRUE or FALSE, YES or NO!
Any physical state can be assigned values of Zeros or ones like
Zero (voltages between 0 and 0.5V)
One (voltages between 2 and 3.3V)

Or Magnetism states
Zero ( Magnetic North pole up)
One (Magnetic North pole down)

Or Optical states
Zero (Light Absorbance)
One (Light Reflected)

etc.


These are LOGICAL Zeros and ones, thus they are meaningless UNLESS the programmer assigned meanings to the sequences of the logical Zeros and ones AND the hardware is Designed to decode the assigned meanings of the sequence of Zeros and ones.

For Instance
1100111010 may be an instruction to the Register of the machine
the next sequence of 010110010 is an instruction that the register must perform on the next sequence of 100001101
etc etc


The sequences of Zeros and Ones are meaningless if the hardware does not recognise the instructions packets in the sequence.

TenQ:
You just answered question Three:

It now remains 4 and 5

Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

LoLz. Keep wait for me to spoon feed you understanding.

budaatum:
That, my Lord, would be the day.

As we can all see right. LoLz. The dishonesty is mind numbing.

budaatum:
Slowly, we are getting there.

Is the "High Level language or the Assembly language" that is "Compiled by an appropriate Software program called a Compiler or Interpreter into a machine readable or machine executable code which are sequences of logical zeros and ones" tangible or not?

The Compiler or Interpreter is another software whose job is to transform the human readable instructions to sequences of logical zeros and ones.

They are not tangible!

LordReed:
LoLz. Keep wait for me to spoon feed you understanding.

Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

You like making simple things difficult!

TenQ:
The Compiler or Interpreter is another software whose job is to transform the human readable instructions to sequences of logical zeros and ones.

They are not tangible!

Is the "human readable instructions" tangible or not?

budaatum:
Is the "human readable instructions" tangible or not?

This is not what is useful to the machine.


Is any instruction tangible?

budaatum:
Is the "human readable instructions" tangible or not?

See kweshon
Define tangible before you ask questions

TenQ:
Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

You like making simple things difficult!

No you are! Just think about it some more with those 2 brain cells that are still working in your head. LoLz.

TenQ:
This is not what is useful to the machine.

Are you admitting that the "human readable instructions" is tangible?

And can the machine have anything to read if the tangible human readable instructions is not compiled into machine readable code?

TenQ:
Is any instruction tangible?

Yes, Tenq. Every instruction must be tangible for it to be an instruction. I must make an instruction tangible for it to instruct you or anyone or anything.

If I want to instruct you to stick your finger in your eyes, I can't just think it intangibly in my head, but must state it in tangible words for you to hear the instruction! Same as I must write tangible human instructions that are compiled into ones and zeros for the machine to read!

Aemmyjah:
See kweshon
Define tangible before you ask questions

How I wish you'd do the same instead of using words you lack understanding of what they mean.

budaatum:
Tangible, means real and not imaginary; able to be shown, touched, or experienced.

I wonder if they will go back to the topic of spirit after the software diversion. Hmmmmmm

Aemmyjah:
Lemme ask him

LordReed, as our dumdum professor with a PhD from dumdum college, kindly educate us

LoLz! Omomo keep waiting for me to spoon feed your understanding.

LordReed:
No you are! Just think about it some more with those 2 brain cells that are still working in your head. LoLz.

Since you do not have an answer, go sleep

budaatum:
Software may indeed produce non-physical effects (though that does depend on the effect you mean), but the software itself must physically exist for it to produce any effect at all.

Just think. If I were to give you a software called Microsoft Windows, you will be receiving physical code, be it on a disk or downloaded. I can't just think it in my head and give it to you.

Same as thoughts. I can think in my head what I am writing here, but until I make my thoughts physical on here for you to receive and read, you'd have nothing whatsoever to respond to.

Same as air we breathe too, which we can not see with the naked eye, but can detect with other senses.

Do be aware that when they say "see", I read 'detect' with any of the other senses. I don't just have to look with my eyes, since I can smell with my nose, and hear with my ears, and feel with my hands etc, and I can even enhance those senses so they "see" better what one can not see with the naked eye.

However, they have not yet told me how they enhance any of their senses so they see the spirits they claim they "see".

My dear buda we have had a discussion along this line in the past. Remember when we spoke about images on a screen or mirror? Those images are intangible, you cannot physical touch them but you can carry the medium they are on. It is the same with software. You can physically carry the medium it's on but you cannot directly touch the software itself.

TenQ:
The software in a Machine is REAL but not tangible. You can't touch it nor feel it by any mechanical means.

This is where you lose yourself. It's like saying the instruction I give you to stick your finger in your eyes, is not tangible after you have received it because you can't touch or feel the instruction you've received.

If the instruction I gave you is not tangible, how the heck did I convey it to you in the first place I wonder.

Why do you not include 'hear' in your "touch and feel"? Are your senses limited to your eyes and your hands alone?