triplechoice:


Still referring me to as an atheists shows you don't take your time to read me before
replying.

And the bolded is you trying to hide behind something very silly. Incompetent people are known for hiding behind that to hide their incompetency. It's a well known tactics, and you can't put me down with it.

There's nothing about spirit that's unknown, especially for someone like me. You're mystifying it because it's still a mystery to you. Everyone is not you and I'm certainly not you.

If you claim to know something and refuse to talk about it ,how can anyone know if you really know it?

A computer software and spirit are not the same kind of reality. And so saying that one needs to know the former before one can understand the later,is equally as illogical as declaring that if one can't make sense of levitating in a dream how can one make sense of flying a plane in the waking state.

There's no logicality in your thinking Mr computer software wizard. You're just blinded by your knowledge of softwares and can't see beyond that. That's all.

If you don't know the limitations of your knowledge, then you have a problem.

And to talk about chatGPT, shows that's exactly what you're doing to have something to say here. I don't do that. I'm not you

TenQ:

Tell me how you think the Spirit /Soul can be explained to an Atheist who think that any Reality that is not Tangible is FICTION?

Is a Spirit/Soul Tangible?

triplechoice:
What's your definition of spirit first? I need to know that so I know we're on the same page and know where to start from

TenQ:


Alright: for the first time I will ask on this thread

Because As a Medical Doctor, you say: "Must tangibility have physical features!?"
IS LIFE TANGIBLE?
How do you know?

TenQ:

Don't take me to the Atheists' DUMB definition of "Lacking a Belief in any Deity"!



The ONLY creatures who can TRULY lack a belief in any Deity are
1. Animals: For they lack the ability to comprehend the abstract nature of the definition of a deity
2. Babies: Due to immaturity of mind, they cannot even take any rational position about any deity
3. Imb.eciles: Just like babies cannot take any rational position about deities

Which of these three camps do you fall in with your LACK of BELIEF?


Lacking a Belief in an subject means:
You do not have ANY position for or against the subject.

Belief:
A Belief is a position we take when we do NOT have sufficient information to be 100% CERTAIN about a subject.

Examples of possible Beliefs
-Russia will win the war over Ukraine
-Third World war is inevitable within the next two years
-By Next month, $1.00 will be less than N600.00

What a rational person does before he takes a person of Belief is that he weighs PROBABILITY according to his judgment from available information he has if his position is worth holding or not.


The ONLY reason you bother to spend time on the Religious section of Nairaland is that you believe you have enough justification to DISCARD the Deity of the Christians and others!


Of course you don't think nor reason but swallow anything and everything godless people give to you as facts without question.
Sorry: How can Dawkins be wrong?

StillDtruth:


"Grief is tangible". Hahahahahahahahaha

O atheists have become very entertaining these days! o my chest!

TenQ:

When a person doesn't know what is a figure of speech and he thinks it is science

Can you measure your Grief?
Tell me, According to Webster dictionary, how many kilograms of Griefs is in your head?


What is the unit of measurement of Grief?

What is the tangibility in Grief?

jaephoenix:

There are many definitions for life, according to the MW Dictionary. But I'll assume u mean living. Now life/living is tangible. Why? Because it the culmination of breathing, having living cells working to keep you alive and prevent u from dying. And people that have this quality(live) are said to be alive and they do their regular everyday function because of this quality they possess, live. MW said any entity that can be appreciated is tangible.
So again, yes life is tangible

TenQ:
Atheists of Nairaland have all come to a conclusion that the following are tangible realities
1. Life
2. Mathematics
3. Software Code within a machine
4. Information
5. Logic

There was even one clown who says that Grief is tangible. His evidence is that Webster definition says
/Her Grief was tangible and he seem not to know that it is a figure of speech.


Who will deliver them from this Ignorance Induced shamelessness?

Cc:
Budaatum LordReed jaephoenix triplechoice

TenQ:

The village clown is still quoting what he doesn't understand.

I challenge you to give me the unit of measurement of grief?


To Mr Atheist :
"I've told you a million times!" means exactly that I told you 1,000,000 times.

"His eyes drank in the beauty of the scene." mean that one can drink with the eyes.

"I could eat a horse!" meaning, I could literally eat a full grown horse.

"The backpack weighed a ton." meaning that one the weighing scale it's weight was one tonne


Again:
Grief is tangible according to Webster Dictionary

I challenge you to give me the unit of measurement of grief?

You are the official clown of the community of atheists if you don't give me the unit of measurement of Grief!

jaephoenix:

Bro, please if you don't like dictionary definitions then don't bother using any dictionary at all. If you have beef with that definition, please write up Merriam Webster, Cambridge, Longman etc and explain to them that they are wrong
Thank you

jaephoenix:

There are other definitions of tangible there including the one that said any entity that can be appraised is tangible, but u ignored it. R u this stupid

jaephoenix:

1. I didn't make the example of grief being tangible. MW did. So if you think they are clowns, please shoot them a mail. And please dont tell them you're a Nigerian cos they may assume all Nigerians are retards
2. I get the info that this thread is about spirits, so can you give the qualities of spirit
Thank you

jaephoenix:

Bro, please if you don't like dictionary definitions then don't bother using any dictionary at all. If you have beef with that definition, please write up Merriam Webster, Cambridge, Longman etc and explain to them that they are wrong
Thank you

jaephoenix:

U r an ignoramus, so I won't take part in any discourse with u

triplechoice:

It's only a slowpoke that judge others only by their "actions" without giving a though to the intentions behind the "actions"

You lack the neural development to understand the reasons or reasons behind my actions hence your wrong conclusion about me.

TenQ:

Don't mind the clowns!

They carry an air of superior knowledge not knowing that they are mentally sick and are devoid of any sound knowledge.

It's the same disease that is confusing Educated Adults about gender differences in people.

TenQ:


This is why you should concur that you subscribe to the following meaning .


"I've told you a million times!" means exactly that I told you 1,000,000 times.

"His eyes drank in the beauty of the scene." mean that one can drink with the eyes.

"I could eat a horse!" meaning, I could literally eat a full grown horse.

"The backpack weighed a ton." meaning that one the weighing scale it's weight was one tonne

Same way with

Her Grief was tangible! What is the meaning?

Then I wiil take it that you know exactly what you are saying

StillDtruth:


That is why the fool is dodgng! He knows he is cornered and that he cannot lie his way out of this.

StillDtruth:


Because people are too hungry searching for food and therefore are not acquiring knowledge is why they stupidly thought they had knowledge, whereas, they were being taught to be very stupid.

That is why they are very quick to abuse and insalt anyone who dares point out that they are wrong.

Inherently, they knew they were stupid, just that they did not know until someone points it out to them. Which is why the next you would.see is that they would start raining abuses and insalts and call their fellows in foolishness to join in the abuse and bullying of the person who dared to correct them.

TenQ:

I asked you BASIC questions: isnt the fool the one who cannot defend his speech when he is asked questions about it?

TenQ:

I agree with you.

They have trusted the Charles Dawkins and co that they don't even bother to ask questions before joining the atheist bandwagon

StillDtruth:


Is this for me, because you did not ask me?

TenQ:

So sorry, this was not for you. I apologise!

StillDtruth:


They never ask questions. Once their white masters speaks they lap it all up like brainless hamsters, stupidly regurgitating what their white master told them, not even stopping to think and to see.

Stupid Brainwashed none wits!

TenQ:

They think because they read books christians usually would not read, that they are smarter. Their arrogance prevents them from knowing the truth.

TenQ:

Not every tangible things are touchable (even though this is a general definition). A more precise definition would be that Tangible things are anything that has mass or dimension or energy or can change state with time.

LordReed:

My dear buda software is a non physical effect of physical interactions. They are like thoughts, even though it is the interaction of the brain and body that produces thoughts, thoughts themselves are not physical.

In Quine’s influential Word and Object he speaks about “limning the true and ultimate structure of reality,” (1960, 221) and according to him, for an object to exist is for it to be necessarily quantified over in an idealized and regimented logical language used to truly and comprehensively describe the world. And he claims that the values of the variables of such a theory will only range over sets and physical objects, so “as far as he is concerned … only physical objects and sets really exist,” and, it must be noted, both objects and sets, even if the latter are abstract, are all regarded as ‘things’ or ‘objects’[3]

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/metaphysics-massexpress/

TenQ:
I think I got tired of you at a point because i assume I was speaking from the position of knowledge.
I do programming on Microcontrollers and in those days, I did a lot of C/Cpp, Python programming.

TenQ:

I believe I kept saying that you can only look at this from the Point of View of the Computer

TenQ:

I do NOT explain spirit/soul to atheists UNLESS they can comprehend basic physical real life concepts

TenQ:

I agree with you.

They have trusted the Charles Dawkins and co that they don't even bother to ask questions before joining the atheist bandwagon

StillDtruth:


Actually, their love for evil and their hatred for God is what prevents them from immediately seeing that they are been deceived with Lies.

John 3:20 describes what happens to people who love evil.

20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light

triplechoice:
Spirit is not intangible as you think. It depends on how it manifest, and there 're different manifestations of spirit. Spirit from a material point of view, simply means energy.