jaephoenix:

It is tangible because we can see its effects on cells. We can appraise it by its effects on cells. We don't really need to touch life. So its tangible

budaatum:


Stop lying that you think!

Everyone should know that God does not "cut him off and rejected him and is never gonna have anything to with him again" to anybody.

TenQ:

It is spiritual because Logic never makes sense to them.

Can Matter come out of Nothing?
Can Order come out of Randomness?

To the Atheists, YES!

StillDtruth:


Have you not now seen and proven that atheists are liars and deluded people living in denials?

They know they are lying when they speak their lies and delusions like matter comes out of nothing and order is random.

They know they are Lying and that they are Liars. That is what our threads prove.

Aemmyjah:
Thank you very much TenQ
At a point, as I would admit, I became confused as to what tangible and real means but your explanations with the use of software, life, information was amazing though we don't always agree on everything. LordReed showed the most integrity but won't still admit the truth cos it is the foundation of him seeing the whole truth of God's existence. Budaatum was just acting like a boxer that has received a heavy blow to the head but still wants to keep fighting, embarrassing himself before his opponent and friends. Jaephoenix always talk nonsense, wisdom is not for everyone and cos he is a doctor as he claims, he knows the profession well but he's not reasonable... Triplechoice and Knownunknown are just confused confusionists who can't make up their mind but I think I'll add something the same atheists were pushing you to explain- The existence of God as a Spirit... I'll drop what someone said as quoted

Aemmyjah:

"If I were still an atheist, this one line of evidence would convince me that God exists. Virtually every scientist believes that the universe began at some point in the past.It is not eternal or always existed. Alexander Vilenkin, the head of cosmology, institute at Tufts University said, 'The Proof is now in place that the universe had a beginning'
That makes a strong argument for God because whatever begins to exist has a Cause. We now know the universe began to exist. Therefore, there must be a Cause behind the universe.. Well, then let me ask you a question
"What kind of a Cause would bring the universe into existence?"
1. It must be transcendent, because it existed apart from the creation
2. It must be timeless or eternal because it existed before physical time came into being.
3. It must be immaterial or Spirit because it existed before the physical world was created
4. Must be powerful, given the immensity of the creation event
5. Must be smart given the precision of the creation event
6. Must be caring because he created such a wonderful habitat for us to exist in
7. Must be personal because he has to make the decision to create
8. And then the scientific principle of Occam's Razor tells us that there would be just one Creator

... Transcendent, Spirit, Eternal, Powerful, Smart, loving, unique... That's the description of the God of the Bible

I personally, anyway would come to the conclusion that there's a divine creator"


As logical as that seems, it would be hard hard for some people to accept just as they cannot make us their mind regarding things like information, software, life, grief with regards to their reality and tangibility

TenQ:

I agree with you: they wish their position might somehow turn out to be true. Their self importance deludes them from reality!
And of course, submission to Gods authority is what they abhor with all their soul

Aemmyjah:
Thank you very much TenQ
At a point, as I would admit, I became confused as to what tangible and real means but your explanations with the use of software, life, information was amazing though we don't always agree on everything. LordReed showed the most integrity but won't still admit the truth cos it is the foundation of him seeing the whole truth of God's existence. Budaatum was just acting like a boxer that has received a heavy blow to the head but still wants to keep fighting, embarrassing himself before his opponent and friends. Jaephoenix always talk nonsense, wisdom is not for everyone and cos he is a doctor as he claims, he knows the profession well but he's not reasonable...

Aemmyjah:

Triplechoice and Knownunknown are just confused confusionists who can't make up their mind but I think I'll add something the same atheists were pushing you to explain- The existence of God as a Spirit... I'll drop what someone said as quoted

TenQ:

It seems you know "your people" very well.
Three categories
1. Those who know the truth but will rather avoid it
2. Those who think they know the truth and splash all about with non-sensities
3. Those who are just plain dumb but will argue anyways


You are perfectly correct about the Nature of the Creator: as an Infinite regress of Cause and Effect is impossible. God is the Uncaused FIrst-Coause of Everything that Exists.

Of course reason ALONE should lead us to the Door of the Creator of the Universe!
The only problem is that are we willing to Reason with Logic and Facts or just sheepishly follow the conclusion of some other people without following through with our own assessment for their conclusion.
Why did God Create the Universe?
What does He want?
Does God care if I hate others and commit selfish and despicable acts like Rape, Murder, Torture, Blackmail on them?

The issue now is: after coming to a knowledge of the Creator, the question that we must all still answer is WHICH is the TRUE Creator! It is only one who Truly searches that will find this answer amongst the several answers available in the world.

Aemmyjah:
Thank you very much TenQ
At a point, as I would admit, I became confused as to what tangible and real means but your explanations with the use of software, life, information was amazing though we don't always agree on everything. LordReed showed the most integrity but won't still admit the truth cos it is the foundation of him seeing the whole truth of God's existence. Budaatum was just acting like a boxer that has received a heavy blow to the head but still wants to keep fighting, embarrassing himself before his opponent and friends. Jaephoenix always talk nonsense, wisdom is not for everyone and cos he is a doctor as he claims, he knows the profession well but he's not reasonable... Triplechoice and Knownunknown are just confused confusionists who can't make up their mind but I think I'll add something the same atheists were pushing you to explain- The existence of God as a Spirit... I'll drop what someone said as quoted

"If I were still an atheist, this one line of evidence would convince me that God exists. Virtually every scientist believes that the universe began at some point in the past.It is not eternal or always existed. Alexander Vilenkin, the head of cosmology, institute at Tufts University said, 'The Proof is now in place that the universe had a beginning'
That makes a strong argument for God because whatever begins to exist has a Cause. We now know the universe began to exist. Therefore, there must be a Cause behind the universe.. Well, then let me ask you a question
"What kind of a Cause would bring the universe into existence?"
1. It must be transcendent, because it existed apart from the creation
2. It must be timeless or eternal because it existed before physical time came into being.
3. It must be immaterial or Spirit because it existed before the physical world was created
4. Must be powerful, given the immensity of the creation event
5. Must be smart given the precision of the creation event
6. Must be caring because he created such a wonderful habitat for us to exist in
7. Must be personal because he has to make the decision to create
8. And then the scientific principle of Occam's Razor tells us that there would be just one Creator

... Transcendent, Spirit, Eternal, Powerful, Smart, loving, unique... That's the description of the God of the Bible

I personally, anyway would come to the conclusion that there's a divine creator"


As logical as that seems, it would be hard hard for some people to accept just as they cannot make us their mind regarding things like information, software, life, grief with regards to their reality and tangibility

TenQ:

Do you agree that It is a stupid definition (from a real point of view) : it only makes sense as a figure of speech.



What can be appraise as tangible:Grief!?

How do you measure the grade of tangibility?

TenQ:

No wonder, comprehension is far from you.


Why don't you ask ChatGPT to help you before you finally reduce yourself to beyond irredeemable.
Better still,
Google is your friend

triplechoice:

So when something makes sense as a figure of speech you can't make sense of it to know what's being referred to ?

A computer software is not tangible, but it makes perfect sense to describe it as that when you consider the visible effects it produces. That's how we know it exist without measuring it directly. This is simple science that a person who claim to be an expert is struggling to understand. SMH

Your problem is that you want a word to mean only what you want to mean despite evidence to the contrary, and that's because of the personal agenda you're pursuing on this thread.



What visible effects does spirit produces for you to compare it to a software. That's all
If you're not able to mention that ,then please take your display to the right section and ask your questions there. You're derailing the thread. Maybe it's about time the mods are invited to intervene since you don't want to be honest.

This is religion section and the subject under discussion is spirit. Discuss that if you know it and stop hiding behind something to prove another thing that's not related to it in any way It won't work here .

Your friends have by their comments shown you're indirectly explaining spirit or God,but you continue to deny it, and you're a Christian?

Modified. You want to measure physically another person's grief before you know they're grieving.? Nonsense.

Aemmyjah:
We know what makes sense to atheists since they're the most intelligent folks on Earth
Life without purpose or meaning or reliable direction or hope

TenQ:

Do your concur that you Lack a belief in a Diety?

jaephoenix:

Who created this creator?
By the way, one of your retarded croonies said all scientists believe the universe was created or had a beginning. Lol. Which scientists? U christians pull out data and definitions from ur ass and make it look like facts

triplechoice:

So when something makes sense as a figure of speech you can't make sense of it to know what's being referred to ?

A computer software is not tangible, but it makes perfect sense to describe it as that when you consider the visible effects it produces. That's how we know it exist without measuring it directly. This is simple science that a person who claim to be an expert is struggling to understand. SMH

Your problem is that you want a word to mean only what you want to mean despite evidence to the contrary, and that's because of the personal agenda you're pursuing on this thread.



What visible effects does spirit produces for you to compare it to a software. That's all
If you're not able to mention that ,then please take your display to the right section and ask your questions there. You're derailing the thread. Maybe it's about time the mods are invited to intervene since you don't want to be honest.

This is religion section and the subject under discussion is spirit. Discuss that if you know it and stop hiding behind something to prove another thing that's not related to it in any way It won't work here .

Your friends have by their comments shown you're indirectly explaining spirit or God,but you continue to deny it, and you're a Christian?

Modified. You want to measure physically another person's grief before you know they're grieving.? Nonsense.

jaephoenix:

Retard, I did what you asked
See, u r just clowning around and exposing your ignorance, and your fellow retarded theists are clapping for you, while we atheists look on in amusement. Tehehehe

jaephoenix:

So why does the world exist, sir?

jaephoenix:

Yes

triplechoice:

So when something makes sense as a figure of speech you can't make sense of it to know what's being referred to ?

A computer software is not tangible, but it makes perfect sense to describe it as that when you consider the visible effects it produces. That's how we know it exist without measuring it directly. This is simple science that a person who claim to be an expert is struggling to understand. SMH

Your problem is that you want a word to mean only what you want to mean despite evidence to the contrary, and that's because of the personal agenda you're pursuing on this thread.



What visible effects does spirit produces for you to compare it to a software. That's all
If you're not able to mention that ,then please take your display to the right section and ask your questions there. You're derailing the thread. Maybe it's about time the mods are invited to intervene since you don't want to be honest.

This is religion section and the subject under discussion is spirit. Discuss that if you know it and stop hiding behind something to prove another thing that's not related to it in any way It won't work here .

Your friends have by their comments shown you're indirectly explaining spirit or God,but you continue to deny it, and you're a Christian?

Modified. You want to measure physically another person's grief before you know they're grieving.? Nonsense.

TenQ:
Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

Cc:
LordReed,
triplechoice

jaephoenix:

The funny thing is his fellow cretarded theists are applauding him, like he's their champion. That shows their reasoning is just poor

TenQ:

Just as Grief and Life is Tangible according to you,
What if I tell you that the Soul is tangible, what will you say?

Note: the effects of the soul on the body are
With our soul we feel emotions,
With our soul we have volition
With our soul we have intellect


I am using your logic now o!

triplechoice:
Your lying and not using my logic correctly. I said grief can be described as tangible without mentioning how yet.

You should have asked me how grief is tangible before jumping the gun.

Aemmyjah:


Francistown
Come o
Come and help your atheists brothers
They are highly confused
Even contradicting one another

Can u answer these

triplechoice:

So when something makes sense as a figure of speech you can't make sense of it to know what's being referred to ?

A computer software is not tangible, but it makes perfect sense to describe it as that when you consider the visible effects it produces. That's how we know it exist without measuring it directly. This is simple science that a person who claim to be an expert is struggling to understand. SMH

Your problem is that you want a word to mean only what you want to mean despite evidence to the contrary, and that's because of the personal agenda you're pursuing on this thread.



What visible effects does spirit produces for you to compare it to a software. That's all
If you're not able to mention that ,then please take your display to the right section and ask your questions there. You're derailing the thread. Maybe it's about time the mods are invited to intervene since you don't want to be honest.

This is religion section and the subject under discussion is spirit. Discuss that if you know it and stop hiding behind something to prove another thing that's not related to it in any way It won't work here .

Your friends have by their comments shown you're indirectly explaining spirit or God,but you continue to deny it, and you're a Christian?

Modified. You want to measure physically another person's grief before you know they're grieving.? Nonsense.

Aemmyjah:


Francistown
Come o
Come and help your atheists brothers
They are highly confused
Even contradicting one another

Can u answer these

TenQ:
Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?

TenQ:

2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?

TenQ:

4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?

TenQ:

5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software [b]WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?[/b]
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TenQ:

Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

Cc:
LordReed,
triplechoice

triplechoice:
Please stop quoting me with your waywardness. Discuss the op,then I will answer you. I said I'm not an atheist and I have repeated that at different times here. Are you deaf or something?

Answer these below if you know what's spirit . Just focus on the op.

1. What's spirit?

2. What's the nature of spirit.?

3. How do you know it exist despite your believe it cannot be seen or measured physically ?

4. What's the relation or connection between spirit and the material world and yourself?

5. Clearly explain how spirit compares with a computer software.

Answer the above or ask your friend TenQ who claims to be an authority on spirits to answer it for you, and let's proceed on mature and sensible discussion,not this childishness from you.

The questions asked by TenQ are completely asinine as it as nothing to do with spirit or God described in the Bible. He should take his computer talk to the right section since he doesn't want to be honest. Your friend is lying about the true intention behind his questions and you're here defending and covering for him instead of condemning him of using deception to discuss God or spirits



Nobody has ever demanded for a direct physical quantification of a computer software before they buy it or install it in their machine,and that's because, even though
it can't be seen or touched, we know it exist as something that produces visible effects which anyone can see whether you believe in it or not

So it won't make sense to demand for physical quantification. But for spirit, the public doesn't know much about it . So it's wisdom to ask for some form of physical quantification to be certain it exist as real. Your friend is misapplying knowledge to fool people like you who refuses to think or question anything.

I already answered his questions ,and ask him some questions in return while doing so, but he has refused to respond in kind.

So why should continue ? Don't bother me if you can't get him to answer the questions I and others have been asking him . A teacher who's afraid to take questions from students doesn't know the subject very well.

triplechoice:
Your lying and not using my logic correctly. I said grief can be described as tangible without mentioning how yet.

You should have asked me how grief is tangible before jumping the gun.

Aemmyjah:


Don't mind TenQ
Pls explain how grief is tangible