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Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 6:39pm On Apr 28
razzydoo:
∆ do you know know that Paul was not one of the Apostles? So based on that, he could have been deceived?
Lol... Paul was not deceived and he was a follower of Jesus Christ much the same as thousands others who also loved around that same time were. Religion however is the deceiver in this case as it uses Paul's words as a weapon against God Himself. lipsrsealed
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 6:41pm On Apr 28
DOM7:
The criminal and adulterous monster don't know the Bible he claimed to follow. Just want to back your randy manhood like the other prophet that legalized it, but any faithful and holy minded person will forbid that from entering his spirit. Anyway everybody is free to practice what he or she wants however your right, choices and decisions will cease when you stand before the judgment seat of God His standard cannot be compromised because of your looseness.

Exactly.

See people pretending as if they dont see that polygamy is complete proof of adultery
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by otherway: 6:41pm On Apr 28
Veecruz:


Is polygamy not a married person committing adultery on his first wife to the extent of marrying the person he commited adultery with like this man has confessed?

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly[b] I want to make her my second wife[/b]....she has agreed that she will b my second....but some of my family' n friends are not in support of it....

And Is adultery not about married people committing a sin called adultery?



Is it not already settled that there is adultery in monogamy? So the focus now is in polygamy, so your response here is off point!


You are just complicating matters for yourself.

Face the subject and stop parambulating.

Leave adultery and fornication out of the equation.

I can be married and see a lady I desire and then marry her before sleeping with her.. In that case, I'm not committing adultery cos I AM MARRIED TO HER.

So you see why I kept insisting that your arguement is baseless.

Its like condemning marriage in its entirety because you feel you can't date a lady without sex b4 you marry her.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Babinski: 6:44pm On Apr 28
thesicilian:

It's the same story bro. The Bible does not condemn polygamy. Polygamy is the teaching of man. If it was that important, Jesus would have taught about it.
A lot of the disciples taught what they thought was right, not what Jesus taught them. At a point (Acts 10) God had to personally come down from heaven and correct Peter about the issue of unclean meat and refusing to preach to the gentiles.

What makes polygamy a sin? That a man pays the bride price of 2 or 3 women according to tradition, before taking her home with the consent of her parents, why should there be any law against that?
Is that not what we were practising before the white man came? Are you saying all our ancestors who practised polygamy will go to hell? But that David, Abraham, Jacob etc will all be in heaven?
What kind of logic is that?

If you're going to convince me that polygamy is a sin, you'll have to show me where it was expressly condemned.

Marriage is not an institution invented or started by man; it is an institution ordained by God. God made marriage and he made it with the plan being very clear and unambiguous: it is a union between a man and a woman. Genesis 2:21–22; Genesis 1:27-28.

In Genesis 1:23-24 it said the woman was bone of the man's bone and flesh of his flesh and “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh”. Note that the joining is to his wife AND NOT to his wives.

Jesus while speaking about divorce in Matthew 19:5 reiterated that "so they are no longer two but one flesh". Note that it is no longer TWO but ONE flesh and not no longer MANY but ONE flesh..

So it is clear from the Bible that God's plan for marriage is one man, one woman. That Prophets in the Old Testament had many wives was not in obedience to God but only at best within his permissive will. That several "Men of God" in the Old Testament had multiple wives points to one of the factors that underlie the weakness of the Old Covenant and the need for the New.

God has never showed any liking for polygamy despite being generally silent through the Old Testament on the issue. In fact in Deuteronomy 17:17 when talking about requirements for the future King of Israel, God specifically warned that he (the King) should not acquire many wives.

For a fact, in all biblical accounts of men having multiple wives, there was conflict. From Abraham to David to Solomon. It is indeed polygamy and not monogamy, that it is an invention of man and we can all see the effects even through the Bible.

There are practices that are customs of men and not God and polygamy as well as divorce are some of them. That was why in respect of divorce in Matthew 19:8-9 despite arguments that it was permitted, Jesus made it clear that it was not the original plan of God.

And Paul's positions in the New Testament clearly correspond with God's plan for marriage. So claims that these are simply the opinions of Paul are weak and self serving. In fact, for a "Christian" to say that monogamy is not Biblical shows the level of understanding of the scriptures for such a person.

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Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 6:46pm On Apr 28
otherway:


You are just complicating matters for yourself.

Face the subject and stop parambulating.

Leave adultery and fornication out of the equation.

I can be married and see a lady I desire and then marry her before sleeping with her.. In that case, I'm not committing adultery cos I AM MARRIED TO HER..

Good. So answer this.

The bible Said "adultery even takes place without having sex", so explain, how can a married man have a second wife where he has already committed adultery just by looking at another woman who is not his wife?
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Image123(m): 6:48pm On Apr 28
JuanDeDios:

Abraham: Sarah (wife) and Haggar (concubine)
Moses: Jethro's daughter (1st wife) and the Cushite (2nd wife, the one he married that made Mariam to do cho cho cho and God struck Mariam)

Hagar was not a wife but a mistake, except you accept that polygamy is a mistake. Nobody joined them together or recognised them as husband and wife.
What's your Bible verse about Cushite being a second wife? That's a hypothesis by some, not stated in the Bible. Jethro and Reuel are the same person, right?
Anyway, at least you agree with Isaac abi? That settles it.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by thesicilian: 6:56pm On Apr 28
LordIsaac:

A Bishop must be the husband of one wife…that’s Scripture!
That is personal doctrine of the apostle, Jesus didn't say that. Besides it was specifically talking about the elders of the church, not the general congregation
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by cjudy(m): 6:59pm On Apr 28
Kobojunkie:
That meant David was a holy and righteous man of God just like the other Prophets of God before and after him. A man after God's heart is a man who lives his life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of God's very own Law to Him. David and all the prophets did this and as such they reaped the benefits of the Law by it. undecided
How many wives did David got? If I’m correct, it’s 8 right? Did God condemned him?
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by omojeesu(m): 6:59pm On Apr 28
olamoses75:
according to theologians, Eve was not Adam's first wife. In the same vein, the Bible never expressly condemned polygamy. 36-40 author wrote the Bible, though by inspiration from God, but they all have different perspectives about some issues. For instance, Apostle Paul never married, but does that mean Apostles can't marry?

You know theologians
You don't know the Bible
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by GanagiBitrus: 7:00pm On Apr 28
banks:


Then why are we still making use of the old testament?
Jesus was born into Judaism, His parents & all those around Him practised Judaism.
In simple terms, Christianity originated from Judaism & there are useful lessons from God's dealings with the Jews in Old Testament.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 7:00pm On Apr 28
thesicilian:
∆ That is personal doctrine of the apostle, Jesus didn't say that. Besides it was specifically talking about the elders of the church, not the general congregation
Jesus Christ's proclaimation that marriage was not of the Kingdom of God was not a personal doctrine but of Law in the Kingdom of God. cheesy
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by JuanDeDios: 7:01pm On Apr 28
Image123:


Hagar was not a wife but a mistake, except you accept that polygamy is a mistake. Nobody joined them together or recognised them as husband and wife.
What's your Bible verse about Cushite being a second wife? That's a hypothesis by some, not stated in the Bible. Jethro and Reuel are the same person, right?
Anyway, at least you agree with Isaac abi? That settles it.
On Isaac, so every OT patriarch was a prophet in your book? Interesting position.

Wait, so when Moses married the Cushite and Miriam started to backbite him, you believe it's Jethro's daughter they were talking about?

If you say Haggar wasn't a wife, that's a very narrow definition of wife you have, which is fine. What's important is that Abraham had TWO women at the same time and had kids by them (which is what polygamous men do). He agreed to the arrangement and that did not affect his relationship with God. But what's really important is that MOST prophets were polygamous and God was find with it. Therefore, this is really just an academic debate.

In the NT churches, there must have been Christians with multiple wives–and nowhere were they cast out of the church. That's why Paul had to intervene specifically in the case of leaders (bishops and deacons), saying only with men with one wife should appointed.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 7:02pm On Apr 28
GanagiBitrus:
∆ Jesus was born into Judaism, His parents & all those around Him practised Judaism.
In simple terms, Christianity originated from Judaism & there are useful lessons from God's dealings with the Jews in Old Testament.
This is not true. None of the prophets of God followed Religion. undecided

Jesus Christ is famously known to have condemned the religion of His time beginning with the religious leaders and their doctrines and Traditions. undecided
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:02pm On Apr 28
God1000:
His father married 13 wives with 53 children, so this is not surprising coming from him.


1 Corinthians 7 and states that polygamy is unlawful; and that one man is to have but one wife, and to keep to her; and that one woman is to have but one husband, and to keep to him and the wife only has a power over the husband's body, a right to it, and may claim the use of it: this power over


Good evening brother

I don't think Paul specifically stated or even implied that polygamy is unlawful in 1 Cor 7
I am a Christian and I will definitely recommend monogamy any day any time
In fact,just like Paul, I will even suggest celibacy

Are you trying to say that those that are in polygamous setting can never be part of Christ?

Even when Paul was writing to Timothy about selecting leaders, he said those leaders must be husband of One wife.
This implies that there were polygamy in the church but those men Will not be considered for leadership

Lets State The Truth of the word of God as it is
No need to add or remove

If you know anyway in the bible where polygamy was declared sinful,kindly share with me
Thanks And God bless

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Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 7:07pm On Apr 28
thesicilian:

That is personal doctrine of the apostle, Jesus didn't say that. Besides it was specifically talking about the elders of the church, not the general congregation

Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away.

advocatejare:

Please stop misinterpreting the Bible out of context.

To get the better understanding of the verse you quoted, start reading from verse 14, God was talking about the king of Israel not the general population and he didn’t say that he forbade polygamy, He just said that the King must not acquire many wives for himself so that they don’t turn his heart away, Solomon broke this law and they turned away his heart from God

14“When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it and dwell in it [/b]and then say, [b]I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me“

Then verse 17 made us know that God was talking about the King

“And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold”


And I have respectfully asked all of you saying this
"from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel?

And thank God you said tto get a better understanding you we should start from verse 14, "When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it.." who is the "you" there? Is it a King or the people?

And in line with this Law did God ever choose a king having wives?
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Barcalee: 7:10pm On Apr 28
Kobojunkie:
You Christians are terrible people. The God of Israel put a seal on His Prophets and visions about 1900 Years ago - Daniel 9 vs 24 - at the close of His Last Days. You lot pretend you believe all that is declared in the book yet here you are insinuating the God of Israel lied and this man's father was in fact one of His prophets. Why are your minds this broken? undecided

Pls can you breakdown this your bruhaha because I find it difficult to see the alignment between my post and yours. I believe you're a Muslim abi? I had heard your Alfas especially Alhaji muyideen saying it's true the Quran allows a Muslim to marry more than one wife ,but,there must be equity from you to them. So tell me how you can love two women equally talkless of four. So who is the terrible one here?

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Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:10pm On Apr 28
thesicilian:

We didn't attend the same school, I have my own school that I attended, and you have yours.
So if I say I have my own school I attended, does that mean I was the only one in the school?

If I tell my friends I can stay here, I'm going back to my own house, does that mean I'm the only one who lives in the house? Come to think of it, "my own house" doesn't even mean I own the house, it just implies that I have a legal right to use the house. So 40 people can call a house their own house as long as they're legal occupants of the house.

That's the lexical ambiguity I'm talking about.

Jesus never condemned polygamy, most of those in the bible who seemed to condemn it were the overzealous converts who were not even with jesus and tended to apply their personal beliefs in most of their teachings.

Some of the greatest icons in the Bible were polygamists, such as Abraham, Solomon, David etc

And they're all already in heaven while you are here talking about unimportant things like polygamy instead of focusing on the actual teachings of christ like repentance, forgiveness, love etc


Good evening Sir

All this lexical ambiguity makes no sense
In that passage, Paul recommended celibacy And then One Man, one wife if you cannot practice celibacy

However Paul never said polygamy was sin
Its as simple as that
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by thesicilian: 7:12pm On Apr 28
Goodlady:

Anyman doing polygamy is doing to v more harem. We don't like competition and it should be respected. What I v observed is that most polygamous men don't fulfill their duties effectively. One wife, one problem, one focus. More wives, more problems.
Even some monogamous men don't fulfil their obligations. Our fathers had many wives and managed their homes effectively.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:15pm On Apr 28
oluwaseyi0:
The Bible is so volatile and contradictory that most people literally cherry pick whatever they want from it, it support everything you want

Imagine the constitution of a country been this inconsistent, volatile and contradictory; the country will always be in chaos

As terrible as the bible is the Qur'an is even way worse off

Imagine a book that allows people cherry pick to the extent that they can blow themselves up (if they can do that to themselves imagine what they can do to you and your families) kidnap kids in school (like in chibok) and so many others unspeakable atrocities

Same quran and some Muslims are just very great people, down to earth, pose no security threat and generally good people

Same book but different cherry picking, nothing else could define volatile



Good evening Sir
I disagree 100 percent
Bible is not contradictory at all

Bible doesn't support anything you want
Please bring it on
I Am here to clear you
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by thesicilian: 7:16pm On Apr 28
jossymekoos:



Good evening Sir

All this lexical ambiguity makes no sense
In that passage, Paul recommended celibacy And then One Man, one wife if you cannot practice celibacy

However Paul never said polygamy was sin
Its as simple as that
That's my point.
And according to the Bible, sin is a transgression of the law. It therefore means that where there's no law against something, there's also no sin as well.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 7:17pm On Apr 28
jossymekoos:



Good evening Sir

All this lexical ambiguity makes no sense
In that passage, Paul recommended celibacy And then One Man, one wife if you cannot practice celibacy

However Paul never said polygamy was sin
Its as simple as that

What else is one man one wife? If a person says you can have one piece of cake, has he not already impliedly said "you cannot have 2 or more cakes?"
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by SIRTee15: 7:17pm On Apr 28
cjudy:


Stop picking verse, start from verse 3 and see why Jesus said such: you people problem is you don’t read to understand bible: Jesus was only condemning divorce there and so he gave them an illustration. What happened to songs of Solomon? What happened to Abraham and David?

Let's go back to the beginning and learn God's original purpose for marrigae....

Genesis 2
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh


That's why Jesus said...

8[i] Jesus replied, But it was not this way from the beginning. [/i]

Divorce and polygamy was never God's original plan.

The way some of u will burn in hell due to your selfish and immoral desires....

U will see black and white in the bible but will start looking for shades of colour to defend your immoral and careless lifestyle.

Pray U don't end up like onan.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:19pm On Apr 28
yewit37486:


Don't waste your time explaining to people who already know what they want to do and are just looking for a way to justify it.

Anyone that wants to marry 100 wives should please go ahead, it wouldn't change the fact that the Bible is clear on it being One man, one wife.

Good evening Sir
I am not going to marry More than One wife but that the New testament encouraged monogamy doesn't mean that polygamy is sinful

So people in polygamous marriages are condemned to eternal destruction without a way of salvation?
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by olu77(m): 7:24pm On Apr 28
thesicilian:

It's the same story bro. The Bible does not condemn polygamy. Polygamy is the teaching of man. If it was that important, Jesus would have taught about it.
A lot of the disciples taught what they thought was right, not what Jesus taught them. At a point (Acts 10) God had to personally come down from heaven and correct Peter about the issue of unclean meat and refusing to preach to the gentiles.

What makes polygamy a sin? That a man pays the bride price of 2 or 3 women according to tradition, before taking her home with the consent of her parents, why should there be any law against that?
Is that not what we were practising before the white man came? Are you saying all our ancestors who practised polygamy will go to hell? But that David, Abraham, Jacob etc will all be in heaven?
What kind of logic is that?

If you're going to convince me that polygamy is a sin, you'll have to show me where it was expressly condemned.

We are always assuming in Africa that David, Abraham and jacob are white people but they were our ancestors. Every evidence points to the fact that christianity was repackaged and sold to us after painting all the icons in the bible white. Christianty originated from Africa and yes our ancestors starting from Adam are all polygamists...that in my opinion does not mean polygamist is good neither is it evil as we were made to believe. It just shows that we have evolved and we know better.

However, I don't know any prophet in the bible that is polygamist even the Oshofa's son did not give any example
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Image123(m): 7:25pm On Apr 28
JuanDeDios:

On Isaac, so every OT patriarch was a prophet in your book? Interesting position.

Wait, so when Moses married the Cushite and Miriam started to backbite him, you believe it's Jethro's daughter they were talking about?

If you say Haggar wasn't a wife, that's a very narrow definition of wife you have, which is fine. What's important is that Abraham had TWO women at the same time and had kids by them (which is what polygamous men do). He agreed to the arrangement and that did not affect his relationship with God. But what's really important is that MOST prophets were polygamous and God was find with it. Therefore, this is really just an academic debate.

In the NT churches, there must have been Christians with multiple wives–and nowhere were they cast out of the church. That's why Paul had to intervene specifically in the case of leaders (bishops and deacons), saying only with men with one wife should appointed.

The thread says No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible. That is what has been proven wrong. i did not come here to tell you not to marry many wives. What is the definition of a prophet? Was Jacob a prophet? Does the Bible say when Moses married the Ethiopian? Can someone backbite about something that happened over 30years ago? i heard many people do that about our politicians. Backbiting is not limited by time.
The Bible somehow forgot to call Hagar as Abraham's wife, but consistently referred to her as Sarah's maid. i am convenient with sticking with the Bible's 'narrow' definition.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:25pm On Apr 28
Raymond84:
In the Bible, there are instances of individuals having multiple wives, particularly in the Old Testament. However, it's important to note that the Bible does not explicitly endorse or condemn polygamy. Instead, it records various accounts of individuals who engaged in polygamous relationships, such as King Solomon, who famously had many wives.

While polygamy was culturally accepted in some ancient societies, the New Testament emphasizes the importance of monogamous marriage. For example, in the New Testament, Jesus referred to the divine plan for marriage as being between one man and one woman, citing the Genesis account.

Ultimately, interpretations of biblical teachings on marriage vary among different religious traditions and individuals.


Good evening Sir
Well Said

But whatever interpretation any sect gives to the word of God, there's only one thing it means

Monogamy is recommended by Christ and being his servant, that is what I will do and teach

But what about those who are polygamous before they met Christ?

Polygamy is not sinful but monogamy is our goal and our recommendation just like Christ




Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:29pm On Apr 28
Kobojunkie:
You Christians are terrible people. The God of Israel put a seal on His Prophets and visions about 1900 Years ago - Daniel 9 vs 24 - at the close of His Last Days. You lot pretend you believe all that is declared in the book yet here you are insinuating the God of Israel lied and this man's father was in fact one of His prophets. Why are your minds this broken? undecided


Good evening Sir
Please if you can rephrase your concern for me to understand better
I will like to respond sir
Thanks
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by otherway: 7:30pm On Apr 28
Veecruz:


Good. So answer this.

The bible Said "adultery even takes place without having sex", so explain, how can a married man have a second wife where he has already committed adultery just by looking at another woman who is not his wife?


You are a confused fellow biko stop quoting me.

Was that verse referring to a MARRIED Man or men generally.
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:32pm On Apr 28
komekn:


Literal speaking 🗣️ it doesn't mean a number it's a principle of marriage, every man should have his wife ,it doesn't negate wives.




Good evening Sir
In that passage, Paul was clearly talking about one Man one wife, however he never condemned polygamy
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Apr 28
jossymekoos:
∆ Good evening Sir
Please if you can rephrase your concern for me to understand better
I will like to respond sir
Thanks
The Prophethood instituted by the God of Israel - YHWH -- ended about 1900 years ago. So when you talk of prophets today you speak of people who have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible God and His Son, Jesus Christ. lipsrsealed
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by olu77(m): 7:34pm On Apr 28
ogascomax:
What do this one knows. You know nothing jor. Not even all prophet got married in the Bible. Not all married more than one.

Don't mind the olodo business man. What does he know about bible. He is just looking for a way to justify what his father did so that he too can do thesame. Afterall bible did not say anyone that marry more than one wife will go to hell
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:36pm On Apr 28
Appletek:
That is the thing with idiots like this. They can never see where the Bible asks them to care for the poor, but anything that will justify their fetishes and sexual lust, they will embrace it.


Calm down sir
You are right
But everything in the bible should be understood and practiced Right

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