fatima04:


You sure 😀😀 because you are not rooting for Gaza oo or Israel the oppressed in that scenario 🤔

I wanted comment when he said that but I no get strength to fight my boss

Zahra29:


Well said....people painting Russia as the victim is laughable. The US isn't innocent/perfect sure, no country is. But we're talking about a "man" who was behind the shooting down of a full passenger plane, killing 300 innocent civilians. A "man" whose political opponents meet untimely deaths both in Russia and overseas...anyone remember Livitneko who was poisoned and killed in a UK hospital in 2006....and attempted murders of other russian nationals a few years ago in Salisbury....on and on it goes, but somehow he's the aggrieved party ....it's true that some people love a dictator

Where did you get this ? I thought it has been established that the passenger plane was brought down by Ukrainian separatist?

Advision:


This is not propaganda.

Even days to the invasion, Putin was openly denying it and claiming it was just a training exercise on the borders of Ukraine, so putin denying they will invade Poland is not evidence they would not if they have the chance.

Totally off point. No bearing to the context of the discuss!!! Bad habit to jump to the middle of a discuss and dump words.

...whatever tickles your pickle.

Lexusgs430:


Gaza/hamas used their hands to find trouble........😁☺️

Equating the entire Gaza population to Hamaz? Wow

Kenn55:


Thank you for schooling them. The one that annoyed me most was the coward Putin displayed in the days and months before the invasion. He vehemently denied plans to invade Ukraine despite positioning his forces in Belarus and all around Ukraine borders. Lavrov even called US war monger when US was sharing Putin's plan publicly. I was even fooled myself cos I believed Russia denial of plans to invade Ukraine cos it doesn't make sense. Ukraine didn't attack Russia so why will Russia invade so I thought.
Zelensky was also fooled cos I remember him telling the US to tone it down believing Russia won't do such. I guess Zelensky didn't believe until it happened
If Putin had made his intentions clear, probably west would have prepared Ukraine militarily ahead of time, Ukraine wouldn't be in this mess now.
Russia took months to plan and execute an invasion of her neighbor but somehow they are victims not agressors

How long has the special military operation been ongoing ? How much time does the west need to prepare Ukraine militarily against a superpower? Wait for 10years hopefully Ukraine will be prepared then

wallg123:

Equating the entire Gaza population to Hamaz? Wow

How could the hamas elements, be surgically/militarily extracted........

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Lexusgs430:



How could the hamas elements, be [b]surgically/militarily extracted........

You can’t in the same breath be condemning Russia and applauding Isreal that’s all am saying... that word too big for me oh …..
you can’t deliberately target civilians in an attempt to achieve your objectives.

Zahra29:


Erm, seeing as Russia is attempting to invade colonise another sovereign country as we speak...my answer would have to be Russia!

You totally sound like someone defending that useless APC government, lol. This shows that the propaganda has gone really deep!!!

No basis/statistics/facts to your response other than 'sheer emotional response'.

Again, the below is culled from a simple Google search and it shows that the US has invaded about 60 sovereign nations, and it's Russia that is likely to invade with all the economic sanctions, propaganda, military incursions et al. SMH

Afghanistan: The U.S. invaded in 2001.
Iraq: The U.S. invaded in 2003, leading to the overthrow and eventual execution of Saddam Hussein.
Japan: The U.S. dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, leading to Japan's surrender in World War II.
Korea: The U.S. invaded in 1871 and again in 1950, during the Korean War.
Mexico: The U.S. invaded in 1846, leading to the Mexican-American War.
Vietnam: The U.S. invaded in 1955, leading to the Vietnam War.
Cuba: The U.S. invaded in 1898 and again in 1961, during the Bay of Pigs invasion.
Grenada: The U.S. invaded in 1983.
Panama: The U.S. invaded in 1989.
Haiti: The U.S. invaded in 1915 and again in 1994.
Dominican Republic: The U.S. invaded in 1916 and again in 1965.
Nicaragua: The U.S. invaded in 1912 and again in 1981.
Libya: The U.S. invaded in 2011.
Syria: The U.S. invaded in 2014.
Yemen: The U.S. invaded in 2002.
Somalia: The U.S. invaded in 1992.
Sudan: The U.S. invaded in 1998.
Serbia: The U.S. invaded in 1999.
Greece: The U.S. invaded in 1947.
Turkey: The U.S. invaded in 1947.
Iran: The U.S. invaded in 1953.
Chile: The U.S. invaded in 1973.
Argentina: The U.S. invaded in 1976.
Brazil: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Uruguay: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Paraguay: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Bolivia: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Ecuador: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Colombia: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Venezuela: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Peru: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Congo: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Angola: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Mozambique: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Namibia: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
South Africa: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Egypt: The U.S. invaded in 1956.
Lebanon: The U.S. invaded in 1958.
Jordan: The U.S. invaded in 1958.
Laos: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Cambodia: The U.S. invaded in 1969.
Thailand: The U.S. invaded in 1964.
Philippines: The U.S. invaded in 1898.
China: The U.S. invaded in 1900.
Russia: The U.S. invaded in 1918.
Hungary: The U.S. invaded in 1956.
Czechoslovakia: The U.S. invaded in 1945.
Poland: The U.S. invaded in 1945.
East Germany: The U.S. invaded in 1945.
North Korea: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
South Korea: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Taiwan: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Burma: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Laos: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Cambodia: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Vietnam: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Thailand: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Malaysia: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Indonesia: The U.S. invaded in 1950.
Philippines: The U.S. invaded in 1950.

Zahra29:


Well said....people painting Russia as the victim is laughable. The US isn't innocent/perfect sure, no country is. But we're talking about a "man" who was behind the shooting down of a full passenger plane, killing 300 innocent civilians. A "man" whose political opponents meet untimely deaths both in Russia and overseas...anyone remember Livitneko who was poisoned and killed in a UK hospital in 2006....and attempted murders of other russian nationals a few years ago in Salisbury....on and on it goes, but somehow he's the aggrieved party ....it's true that some people love a dictator

zahra wey dey always dey on point! 😁

I was gonna respond on the shooting down of a passenger plane comment, but I realised I need to read more on the incident. I only know both the Soviet Union and the US shot down fully loaded passenger planes in 1983 and 1988 respectively. I also know that unlike Russia, the USA has been at the forefront of instigating crisis in several countries to further their own interests in the last 30 years. Talk about murdering millions not even due to direct confrontation/provocation o but under claims of a search for weapons of mass destruction only to find none. That def is far more cold than shooting down ten Boeing aircrafts.

All those poland, Finland no interest Russia, Ukraine is historically and strategically relevent to Russia, and to the WEST/US cos of its 'valuable resources'. Let the North Atlantic respect the East. The east isn't the one encroaching and encircling the west, the west is the one doing all that....to what end??

Zahra29:


Well said....people painting Russia as the victim is laughable. The US isn't innocent/perfect sure, no country is. But we're talking about a "man" who was behind the shooting down of a full passenger plane, killing 300 innocent civilians. A "man" whose political opponents meet untimely deaths both in Russia and overseas...anyone remember Livitneko who was poisoned and killed in a UK hospital in 2006....and attempted murders of other russian nationals a few years ago in Salisbury....on and on it goes, but somehow he's the aggrieved party ....it's true that some people love a dictator

Missing the context, again, EMOTIONALLY!

Someone here called Russia a bully, and hoping that Ukraine wins the war that is being instigated, funded, planned, strategized and executed by the US via the clownish puppet of a president, Zelensky! I have already established who the bully and aggressor is. QED

Russia is doing to Ukraine exactly what the US strongly wanted to do to Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis, where Cuba hosted USSR nuclear armed missiles. Any World power would do exactly what Russia is doing. China would do it to Taiwan, it's just a matter of time. When that happens, you all would come out after listening and watching the western mainstream media propaganda and call China a bully nation.

By the way, Russia didn't shoot down that passenger plane, that was Ukraine. Get your fact right.

Do you want us to talk genocide? The US is notorious for a significant amount of human right violations, civilian casualties, genocide, just name it!!! There are receipts for these. Go and read 'Inside The CIA', also read the leaks from Wikileak's Julian Assange (who is currently incarcerated here in the UK and awaiting extradition to the US), and the expose from Edward Snowden and the list goes on... Read and be informed so as not to always respond to things emotionally.

Let me ask you, how many serving presidents of foreign nations have the US assassinated?

Hi guys, I know this is UK. please a close friend of mine was recently denied of his Irish spousal visa. The Visa Officer said he did not establish concrete evidence of relationship with his spouse in Ireland before applying for the visa.
He put his marriage pictures and some outing pictures in the application yet was denied.

What can he do to help his appeal to be successful?

wallg123:

You can’t in the same breath be condemning Russia and applauding Isreal that’s all am saying... that word too big for me oh …..
you can’t deliberately target civilians in an attempt to achieve your objectives.

That's the effect of consuming many years of western propaganda.

Let's learn to think objectively and rationally without bias and say things as they really are.

wallg123:

How long has the special military operation been ongoing ? How much time does the west need to prepare Ukraine militarily against a superpower? Wait for 10years hopefully Ukraine will be prepared then

If the US was in the shoes of Russia, Ukraine would have been wiped off the face of the earth.

toughest007:


If the US was in the shoes of Russia, Ukraine would have been wiped off the face of the earth.

The definition of a terrorist state is the country called USA.

wallg123:
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You can’t in the same breath be condemning Russia and applauding Isreal that’s all am saying... that word too big for me oh …..
you can’t deliberately target civilians in an attempt to achieve your objectives.

That's why I initially said, a coin got 2 sides..... We cannot all sleep together, and face the same direction (even during reverse cowgirl).... It's not possible...... 😜😂🤔

wallg123:

The definition of a terrorist state is the country called USA.

The US is the root cause of widespread global terrorist establishment... Abeg, make we leave this talk.

NewT123:
Hi guys, I know this is UK. please a close friend of mine was recently denied of his Irish spousal visa. The Visa Officer said he did not establish concrete evidence of relationship with his spouse in Ireland before applying for the visa.
He put his marriage pictures and some outing pictures in the application yet was denied.

What can he do to help his appeal to be successful?

No mention of marriage certificate, no mention of evidence of financial support, no mention of chats between couples etc etc etc.......

If you were the visa officer, would you grant such application....... 😂🤣

wallg123:

Where did you get this ? I thought it has been established that the passenger plane was brought down by Ukrainian separatist?

This is the plane that was shot down in 2014, prosecutors said there was evidence that Putin provided heavy weaponry to Moscow-backed separatists.

toughest007:


Missing the context, again, EMOTIONALLY!

Someone here called Russia a bully, and hoping that Ukraine wins the war that is being instigated, funded, planned, strategized and executed by the US via the clownish puppet of a president, Zelensky! I have already established who the bully and aggressor is. QED

Lol the only thing you've established is that you support dictators and hate the west while enjoying the freedoms of the west.

Lexusgs430:


No mention of marriage certificate, no mention of evidence of financial support, no mention of chats between couples etc etc etc.......

If you were the visa officer, would you grant such application....... 😂🤣

Apologies, he included marriage certificate with pictures from the traditional, reception and court wedding. He also included chat history from when they were dating till after marriage, he also included the wife’s travel ticket when she visited Nigeria and pictures they both took. They have been married for 2 years now. They dated before she travelled but broke up and came back again. Wifey has been in Ireland for over 5 years but has been to Naija 3 times since they got married 2 years ago.

He wants to appeal but doesn’t know what else to add or how he can make his appeal successful

Zahra29:


This is the plane that was shot down in 2014, prosecutors said there was evidence that Putin provided heavy weaponry to Moscow-backed separatists.

would I be right to say prosecutors are pointing finger to Ukrainians as the primary sponsor of the terrorist attack on innocent concerts goers in Moscow few weeks back ?….. If you can provide the report then I’ll provide you a report which exclusively points to Ukrainian separatists using western supplied surface to air missile to bring down that plane. Just as the blew up Nora stream 1&2 with the help of the US.…

Donald trump won elections Americans blame the Russians for interfering, Biden won elections and the blame the Russians again ? ….. you guys can try to suppress the truth but the truth will always resurface

toughest007:


You totally sound like someone defending that useless APC government, lol. This shows that the propaganda has gone really deep!!!

No basis/statistics/facts to your response other than 'sheer emotional response'.

You sound a lot more emotional than me, I'm just baffled about the defense of a known dictator who oppresses his own people.
Anyways to each their own...

Is APC the governing party or is that the other one? I haven't got any energy for, or interest in Nigerian politics, so any so called propaganda is lost on me.

Zahra29:


Lol the only thing you've established is that you support dictators and hate the west while enjoying the freedoms of the west.

Zahra,
I don't hate anyone, it takes loads of energy to hate someone or something. I also don't have the capacity to support evil or a dictatorship, this too take loads of energy.

See, I just have my views and opinion of things informed by facts and data. When I don't know enough, I just keep shut and pass.

NewT123:


Apologies, he included marriage certificate with pictures from the traditional, reception and court wedding. He also included chat history from when they were dating till after marriage, he also included the wife’s travel ticket when she visited Nigeria and pictures they both took. They have been married for 2 years now. They dated before she travelled but broke up and came back again. Wifey has been in Ireland for over 5 years but has been to Naija 3 times since they got married 2 years ago.

He wants to appeal but doesn’t know what else to add or how he can make his appeal successful

Have you checked the prerequisites, for spousal visa application.......

Were all items ticked off against the list........

I also hope the applicant is not an any blacklist...........

Zahra29:


You sound a lot more emotional than me, I'm just baffled about the defense of a known dictator who oppresses his own people.
Anyways to each their own...

Is APC the governing party or is that the other one? I haven't got any energy for, or interest in Nigerian politics, so any so called propaganda is lost on me.

Data and emotion does not go together. You know the rest.

Yes, APC is the governing party.

wallg123:
would I be right to say prosecutors are pointing finger to Ukrainians as the primary sponsor of the terrorist attack on innocent concerts goers in Moscow few weeks back ?….. If you can provide the report then I’ll provide you a report which exclusively points to Ukrainian separatists using western supplied surface to air missile to bring down that plane. Just as the blew up Nora stream 1&2 with the help of the US.…

I hear you...it's all subjective....

To each their own.....at the end of the day, perhaps "good Vs evil" could be decided by the country one would live in if they had to choose....."innocent, misunderstood Russia" or " evil, aggressor US"....I think we can safely guess lol

Lexusgs430:



Have you checked the prerequisites, for spousal visa application.......

Were all items ticked off against the list........

I also hope the applicant is not an any blacklist...........

No the applicant isn’t blacklisted as this is his first visa application to any country. The rejection reason was insufficient evidence to establish relationship prior to application. He ticked all boxes as no other rejection reason was given

NewT123:


No the applicant isn’t blacklisted as this is his first visa application to any country. The rejection reason was insufficient evidence to establish relationship prior to application. He ticked all boxes as no other rejection reason was given

Simple..... Provide more evidence of a subsistence relationship.......

toughest007:


That's the effect of consuming many years of western propaganda.

Let's learn to think objectively and rationally without bias and say things as they really are.

It is you that should think without bias. If you are rational, you should have known that Putin and Russia are no saints, they are as bad as the US and west. You should have known that Russia is also seeking to dominate like the US. You should have known that Russia is also looking out for it's own selfish interest like all world powers do.

Every bad thing you have against the west is also applicable to Russia. US and its allies invade countries for their selfish interests, Russia does the same. Since 2000, US has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia has invaded Georgia and Ukraine. Russia has been sponsoring breakaway rebels in Georgia, Maldova, Ukraine etc to declare kangaroo independence yet Putin is your Angel and you wipe away his sins.

All world powers are bad players. But at least in the west, no leader is "god", they can be challenged and removed by the people unlike your Angelic country Russia. In the west, Opposition is strong putting check on government to behave themselves. In the west, Oposition has power, media has power, legislators have power, courts have power, civil society have power the people have power, it is never a one man show.

Putin came to power in 1999 when Bill Clinton and Obasanjo was in power. He has succeeded in making Russia a one man country where he is "god". He has changed Russia constitution 3 times since 1999, the last one being last year to give himself another 12 years in power. Russians can't talk, if you talk, you chop poison, fall from high rise, rot in jail if you are lucky or your plane gets shot down.

Do you know how many Putin's opposition and critics Saint Putin and his gang have eliminated since 1999 by poisoning and throwing them down from high rise buildings?

Will you be happy if Nigeria adopt the Russian model? Tell yourself the truth for once.
As we speak, Russians can't call Ukraine war a war publicly, they passed a law criminalizing calling it war. Imagine a government making it a crime to judge for yourself how you see things. Russians no longer have independence of thought, they have to be told what and how to think by force because one man cannot afford to be criticized. I just hope this Saint Putin Russian model nonsense is not what you guys are wishing for Nigeria to become. God forbid!
By the way, I'll take Tinubu and Nigeria over Putin and Russia, you can put your money where your mouth is by relocating to Moscow and not living in the freedom loving west and still talking nonsense. Mtshewwwww

Treadway:
GBAM! Lobatan o hi
The US/NATO is the aggressor, and had been for the last 30 years at least. Ain't no way I can ever see Russia as the aggressor when the only time in the last 30 years they have been 'the aggressor' is in movies.

If Ukraine like make dem get sense, if dem like make dem no get brain. Na dem and their people go lose, while US/NATO/the west loses nothing.

Talk about being foolish.

They hide under the duvet of democracy to orchestrate terror and genocide on other country’s. Vietnam, Libya the least is endless

Zahra29:


Well said....people painting Russia as the victim is laughable. The US isn't innocent/perfect sure, no country is. But we're talking about a "man" who was behind the shooting down of a full passenger plane, killing 300 innocent civilians. A "man" whose political opponents meet untimely deaths both in Russia and overseas...anyone remember Livitneko who was poisoned and killed in a UK hospital in 2006....and attempted murders of other russian nationals a few years ago in Salisbury....on and on it goes, but somehow he's the aggrieved party ....it's true that some people love a dictator

Should we start enumerating US atrocities?

wallg123:

Where did you get this ? I thought it has been established that the passenger plane was brought down by Ukrainian separatist?

Pointing fingers at putin but they can’t call America out.

Even if America recolonise Nigeria they will still support them. I know most of you are desperate for US passport that’s the reason for not saying the truth.

Side note: the west might just come back again and colonise Nigeria and Nigerians politicians would stupidly oblige.