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Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Expanse2020(m): 6:04pm On Apr 28 |
Ken4Christ:But your pastor claimed they see God face to face and dine with God how can you said no one have seen him |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 6:26pm On Apr 28 |
Expanse2020: He didn't say so. He only inferred. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Expanse2020(m): 6:39pm On Apr 28 |
Ken4Christ:Ehen so I lied that Odumeje who said he was stirring are God that even became shy🫣🫣🫣😂😂😂🫣 and asked this look is too much Or the person who drank Tea with God Or the other who goes to heaven and God show him his mansion and even saw different cars in heaven |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 6:46pm On Apr 28 |
Expanse2020: Correction I am NOT aware Odumeje is a servant of God. Those who are genuinely born again knows those are called of God. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 7:18pm On Apr 28 |
honesttalk21: So your prophet is spiritually blind? This is strange. And you call him a prophet? Prophets in the Bible in the Old Testament were called seer because they can see the unseen world. This is why they could foretell the events of the future even things that are to happen beyond their generation. Prophet Isaiah for instance foretold of the virgin birth of Jesus Christ - Isaiah 7:14 He also foretold of his divinity and the throne he will occupy - Isaiah 9:6-7. He also foretold of the death and his resurrection and the suffering he will go through; Isaiah 53:1-12 1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? note 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. note 10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. Prophet Isaiah also saw the millennium reign of Christ. He saw the new world after this world is destroyed. Prophet Daniel even saw the exact year Jesus would died. And he died exactly that year. This is why we say that the Bible is the only inspired word of God because it reveals to us what science cannot find out. Now, coming to your Mohammed, he doesn't know what will be done with him nor of you according to your translation. Is that not enough reason for you to renounce Islam and follow Jesus? How can you be following someone who is unsure of his destiny? But our Lord Jesus spoke differently. He knew who he is, where he came from, his mission on earth and where he is going. He said that God gave his only begotten Son so that you will have everlasting life and not perish - John 3:16. He said that he will go back to his Father and come back again to take us to the beautiful place of heaven - John 14:1-3. He said that he is the way, the truth and the life - John 14:6. He made so many other positive claims that space will not permit me to include here. He gave us assurance of salvation. And he warned those who don't believe in him of their final destination - hell fire. And he proved all he said by his death and Resurrection. He ascended to heaven before the very eyes of witnesses. Don't believe the fairy tales in your book that Jesus didn't die. Mohammed wasn't there. How can you believe the testimony of someone who was born about 500 years after Jesus death and resurrection and disbelieve the testimonies of those who were eye witnesses? Even outside the witnesses of those written in the Bible, the witnesses of those who are not Christians confirmed that Jesus died. There is not a single record in the whole world of the narration that Jesus didn't die apart from your book. And the witness of your book cannot stand as it doesn't have any other witness that says the same thing. And in the court of law, one witness is not enough to prove a case. Jesus even predicted his death in your book. And this is a contradiction to the passage which says that he didn't die. My friend, Jesus loves you. He died for you. As you are reading this article, you are feeling convicted inside you but you are fighting it. Please let go of the lies you have been told and receive Jesus today as your Lord and Saviour. The good news is that you will have immediate transformation the very moment you receive Jesus. You will experience an inner peace you never had before. Please accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and save yourself from that terrible place called hell. Everyone who die without Jesus go to hell. Please, don't waste this opportunity to be saved. So many Muslims have found this salvation and their testimonies are on the social media. You too can be one of them. Don't follow the man who doesn't know the way. The man who is unsure of his destiny. The Bible says that if the blind leads the blind, they will both fall into a pit. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Expanse2020(m): 7:13am On Apr 29 |
Ken4Christ:Servant of God bawo I hope everyone is son of God |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by honesttalk21: 10:02am On Apr 29 |
Ken4Christ: On educating you about the misinformation and misrepresentation of Quran 46:9 you do not face the issues drawn up and divert? What more spirituality do you want displayed? The revelations in the Quran and discourse about things from centuries before and warning about what is to come? What else do you want? Would you disobey your faith and biblical guide to follow a Shaman? Deuteronomy 18:10-12 》 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you. This passage warns against divination, sorcery, interpreting omens, and consulting with spirits. Though these practices may have similarities with aspects of shamanism, it’s crucial to recognize the diversity and complexity of shamanic spirituality. Exodus 22:18;Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live, Condemns witchcraft often associated with shamanic traditions. It’s important to differentiate between harmful manipulation of supernatural powers (witchcraft) and spiritual practices aimed at healing and harmony (shamanism). Shamans and seers share commonalities in terms of their connection to the spiritual realm, role as intermediaries between worlds, focus on healing practices, use of rituals and ceremonies, and community roles. Then Isaiah 9:6 refers to Hezekiah. Isaiah 9:6 is not a reference to Jesus but points to someone from the time of the prophet Isaiah, who is King Hezekiah. Hezekiah was a significant king in Judah who reigned during a tumultuous period and was known for his religious reforms and defiance against foreign powers like Assyria. The titles given to the child in Isaiah 9:6, such as “Mighty God” and “Prince of Peace,” could be understood metaphorically within the context of Hezekiah’s reign rather than as literal divine attributes. Isaiah 9:7 refers to the enduring legacy of Hezekiah’s rule rather than a future divine Messiah. Hezekiah was a prominent king in the Bible, who ruled over the kingdom of Judah for 29 years, from 715 to 686 BC. He emerged as a faithful and righteous king, who implemented significant reforms to restore the religious practices and traditions of Judah. He undertook ambitious building projects, including the construction of a tunnel that brought water into Jerusalem from the Gihon Spring, which is now known as Hezekiah’s Tunnel. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 10:02pm On Apr 29 |
Expanse2020: Correction. I meant I am NOT aware Odumeje is a servant of God. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 1:37pm On May 13 |
Antilslaam: honesttalk21 you gerrit right? So stop attributing royal we to allah, that deity called allah has many partners.. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by honesttalk21: 8:45pm On May 13 |
Antilslaam: Usage of the royal we in scripture predates its adoption by monarchies. The scriptural use of plural pronouns by God existed long before the practice was adopted by earthly rulers. There are many verses in the Quran where Allah speaks using the Arabic pronoun “nahnu” (meaning we) or its associated suffix….”we” created, “we” sent down, etc. In Arabic, this is perfectly acceptable, because “nahnu” does not necessarily imply plurality. It can also indicate the speaker’s lofty status, and thus, when the Most High uses it, the meaning is evident. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 8:29am On May 14 |
honesttalk21: Nahnu is still royal we in Arabic, I've told you go and read the history of royal we and stop defending nonsense Below are the partners of allah as read in Quran, just read and be fine Quran 37:153 Muhammad Asad “He has chosen daughters in preference to sons” Quran 37:153 Wahiduddin Khan Has He chosen daughters over sons AND THE DAUGTHERS ARE: Quran 53:19-21 Have you then considered Lat and ‘Uzza And another, the third, Manat Are the males for you and for Him the females |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Qasim6(m): 8:41am On May 14 |
Antilslaam: Guy Do you know anything about context ? This is 2024, you should be wiser. Stop embarrassing yourself! |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by 1000Capacity: 8:42am On May 14 |
Tricky question |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 9:01am On May 14 |
Qasim6: Slave, go and ask your scholars and the authors of quran why they attributed those partners with allah since you love ranting that allah is one. Those verses shocked you right? I still have many more to show you from your various ahadith and tafsirs but let's start from the Quran first |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by WorkRemotely: 9:27am On May 14 |
Ken4Christ: The Bible Also Puts it That The Christian God Said That: " Let US Make Man in Our Own Image". So, Who Are Those With The Christian God With Whom The Christian God Seeks Permission? |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by honesttalk21: 9:38am On May 14 |
Antilslaam: Usage of the royal we in scripture predates its adoption by monarchies. The scriptural use of plural pronouns by God existed long before the practice was adopted by earthly rulers. When was Genesis 1:26 written? Was this not centuries before Christ? You refer to 12th century |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 10:58am On May 14 |
honesttalk21: The major problem with you is that you don't want to obey simple instructions. Go and search for the the history of royal we and when it was firstly used Stop putting Islam, allah and Muhammad to shame here with you nonsensical, stupidity and ignorance.. Just do as I said lobatan honesttalk21: Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Jesus Christ is with God from the beginning and Holy Spirit John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. Quran says Jesus Christ is the word of God isn't it or I should quote the verse? So Jesus Christ and Holy spirit are with God in Genesis 1:26 this is not the case of Royal we bobo slave |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by AbuTwins: 11:13am On May 14 |
Ken4Christ: We is for Allah and He has no partner! Elohim is Plural but is usually used with a singular verb even in your Bible! Yet you still call your Gods three! Allah is one! He said it himself. And even in many languages, "We" and "Us" can be used to refer to a person of authority! |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by sonmvayina(m): 11:52am On May 14 |
Ken4Christ: who was he talking to? |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 12:55pm On May 14 |
AbuTwins: Keep deceiving yourself. You had better accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour before you burn in he'll. I tell you, it will be regrets upon regrets. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 12:56pm On May 14 |
WorkRemotely: The other members of the trinity. The Word and the Holy Spirit. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 1:25pm On May 14 |
WorkRemotely: This is the answer to your question, read slowly and gently. If you are confused or in doubt, you can ask any further question bothering you Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Jesus Christ is with God from the beginning and Holy Spirit John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. Quran says Jesus Christ is the word of God isn't it or I should quote the verse? So Jesus Christ and Holy spirit are with God in Genesis 1:26 this is not the case of Royal we bobo slave |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 1:30pm On May 14 |
AbuTwins: Bobo slave, allah has many partners stop listening to what your alfas are telling you. Try reading your own Quran Your allah wish to have a son Quran 39:4 If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created... Your islamic deity allah has daughters Quran 37:153 Muhammad Asad “He has chosen daughters in preference to sons” Quran 37:153 Wahiduddin Khan Has He chosen daughters over sons AND THE DAUGTHERS ARE: Quran 53:19-21 Have you then considered Lat and ‘Uzza And another, the third, Manat Are the males for you and for Him the females |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by WorkRemotely: 1:38pm On May 14 |
Antilslaam: 1) Kindly Quote The Quran Verse of Jesus Being The Word of God. 2) Jesus Christ is with God from the beginning and Holy Spirit John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. From The Above Statement; Why is This "HIM" Not The Holy Spirit ? What Makes You Think That This "HIM" Above Refers To Jesus When No Part of The Bible Wrote So ? |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Antilslaam: 2:05pm On May 14 |
WorkRemotely: Quran 4:171 O People given the Book(s)! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor say anything concerning Allah, but the truth; the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is purely a Noble Messenger of Allah, and His Word; which He sent towards Maryam, and a Spirit from Him WorkRemotely: The HIM there is Jesus Christ, he is the word from the beginning with the father. The word became flesh and dwell with us as read in both Quran and Bible John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. I believe you know what that FLESH is all about? My joy is seeing you Muslims asking me questions but defending Islam, Muhammad and allah with taqqiya is what I hate most |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by sonmvayina(m): 2:07pm On May 14 |
honesttalk21: this has got nothing to do with royal plural, remember the satanic verses, if Allah has daughters, then he must have a partner as in a consult. Allah is the moon god, SIN/NANNA . who had three daughters, the first is INANNA, who is lucifer. i guess she would be Alat in genesis chapter 1:26 God was talking to the earth as the earth provided the dust for creating the body of man while God breath into it to bring it to life.. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by AbuTwins: 2:44pm On May 14 |
Ken4Christ: Who did Jesus ever called to accept him as Lord and Savior? Continue to follow the religion of Paul via the Roman Emperor! Allah will save us from hell by his mercy! |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by RightChannel: 2:46pm On May 14 |
AbuTwins: What class are you to begin with? Can't you differentiate between God and gods, where did Bible called Jehovah as Gods, where did Bible says Christians are serving THREE Gods? |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by AbuTwins: 3:12pm On May 14 |
RightChannel: Where did i say you serve three Gods? Elohim is used for God, gods, Angels and humans,... in the Bible. Elohim as God aka Yahweh Take note that in Gen 1:1 In the Beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and earth. Used as gods Now I know that the LORD (Yahweh) is greater than all other gods (Elohim), for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.” Exo 18:11 “Whoever sacrifices to any god (Elohim) other than the LORD (Yahweh) must be destroyed. Exo 22:20 As an Angel (Cos i don't think Jacob can fight God.) “Your name will no longer be Jacob,” the man told him. “From now on you will be called Israel, because you have fought with God and with men and have won.” Gen 32:28 Humans are God (Elohim) Then the LORD (Yahweh) said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God (Elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. Exo 7:1 “I said, ‘You are “gods" (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6 |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by RightChannel: 5:03pm On May 14 |
AbuTwins: AbuTwins: The Gods you said we called Three, who are you referring to that they called their Gods three and I am asking you to differentiate between Gods and God and to quote where Jehovah is refer to as Gods in the Bible, again as Gods Did you know the different between God, gods and Gods? |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by Ken4Christ: 6:27pm On May 14 |
AbuTwins: Allah that couldn't save his messenger, Muhammad. Muhammad confessed his hopelessness in Sura 46:9. |
Re: Who Is Allah's Partner In Sura 5:46? by RightChannel: 7:36pm On May 14 |
AbuTwins: Jesus preached to many, both the Jews and Gentiles. He heals many and preached the kingdom of his father which is his primary assignment on earth Allah didn't save any, throughout the whole Quran no one is ever recorded to that he or she was saved by Allah. Even Muhammad his messenger was abandoned by Allah after he was poisoned to death. Abu bakr and all companions of Muhammad thought Allah will save him but they were shocked and disappointed as Allah couldn't save his own messenger |
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