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We will look at col 1:17

Colossians 1:17 He existed before everything else began, and he holds all creation together.

A creature cannot possibly do that. Heb 1:3 tells us more.

Hebrews 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

Notice that Jesus is here said to uphold ALL things by the word of His power. This is not just elevating all things, but the point is that Christ sustains ALL things, universe, humans, animals etc, by the word of His power. So after creating all things, He also sustains ALL things.

Also take note of the Power aspect. Such power must be the Highest form of power there is. For the power of a creature cannot possibly sustain all things.

This doesn't sound like what an ordinary creature can do. Does it?

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Paul said all those not Jesus!

And Paul never met Jesus!

We don't even know who he's referring to!

Jesus himself said by himself he can do nothing!

God no fit do anything by himself!

AntiChristian:
Paul said all those not Jesus!

And Paul never met Jesus!

We don't even know who he's referring to!

Jesus himself said by himself he can do nothing!

God no fit do anything by himself!

But you believe Mohammed who never met the even the fifth generation of the disciples of Jesus not to speak of meeting Jesus!
...what an ignorant argument!

Finish the statement: Jesus said that He can do Nothing of Himself BUT What can He do ?


Satan worshipper, can anyone say this ?

John 5:19-20
"Jesus gave them this answer: 'Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed.'"


Can Muslims survive without lies and half truths!?
No!

TenQ:
But you believe Mohammed who never met the even the fifth generation of the disciples of Jesus not to speak of meeting Jesus!
...what an ignorant argument!

Muhammad got revelation from Allah! He's not a disciple to be reporting from anybody! He reported about Adam, Noah, Moses and many others too. Should he have gotten that report from all of them too?

What's been said is about Paul! The self proclaimed disciple of your god who never met him but got approval from the church fathers even more than the combination of the other 12!

Finish the statement: Jesus said that He can do Nothing of Himself BUT What can He do ?

Satan worshipper, can anyone say this ?

John 5:19-20
"Jesus gave them this answer: 'Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed.'"


Can Muslims survive without lies and half truths!?
No!

Abeg if what you type above is true, then Jesus has no power of his own. All he had was a derived power! That's why he didn't know the hour even with all the authority given to him!

The father loves the son yet didn't show him the hour! But you claim he shows him all he does! Maybe not all he plans sha!

Master liar!
We Sabi Una!
Cover up one lie with another one!
Wetin I Sabi be say

Sand2022:
We will look at col 1:17

Colossians 1:17 He existed before everything else began, and he holds all creation together.

A creature cannot possibly do that. Heb 1:3 tells us more.

Hebrews 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

Notice that Jesus is here said to uphold ALL things by the word of His power. This is not just elevating all things, but the point is that Christ sustains ALL things, universe, humans, animals etc, by the word of His power. So after creating all things, He also sustains ALL things.

Also take note of the Power aspect. Such power must be the Highest form of power there is. For the power of a creature cannot possibly sustain all things.

This doesn't sound like what an ordinary creature can do. Does it?

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He said, “But of that day and/or hour no one knows, not even the angels of/in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone” (Matthew 24.36/Mark 13.32

AntiChristian:
Muhammad got revelation from Allah! He's not a disciple to be reporting from anybody! He reported about Adam, Noah, Moses and many others too. Should he have gotten that report from all of them too?

What's been said is about Paul! The self proclaimed disciple of your god who never met him but got approval from the church fathers even more than the combination of the other 12!

Who told you that Allah told Mohammed anything?
Which Allah told Mohammed anything if he did?
What is the evidence that the Creator communicated with Mohammad?

AntiChristian:
Abeg if what you type above is true, then Jesus has no power of his own. All he had was a derived power! That's why he didn't know the hour even with all the authority given to him!

The father loves the son yet didn't show him the hour! But you claim he shows him all he does! Maybe not all he plans sha!

Master liar!
We Sabi Una!
Cover up one lie with another one!
Wetin I Sabi be say

Read again!
1. Whatever the Father does, Jesus does!
2. There is nothing the Father does that Jesus doesn't know.

It certainly pains you!
It's the same scripture you quoted half way that is causing you epilepsy: too bad!

Mr Anti-christian,
How true is this: that There are several Kaaba at the time of your prophet.
1. Why did you Muslims destroy all but one?
2. How many Kaaba did Ibrahim and Ishmael built in Arabia?
3. Who started the practice of clothing the Kaaba (was it Ibrahim)?


How much of Idolatry did Islam borrow from the pagans of Arabia?

tareboy:
He said, “But of that day and/or hour no one knows, not even the angels of/in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone” (Matthew 24.36/Mark 13.32

Yes, as a human he had some limitations. Notice that at Luke 2:52, he is said to be increasing in wisdom and physical stature. Jesus while in heaven had complete knowledge, but as a man, he had some limitations.

However, what's your thoughts about his sustaining ALL things. Does that sound like what a creature can do?

AntiChristian:
Muhammad got revelation from Allah! He's not a disciple to be reporting from anybody! He reported about Adam, Noah, Moses and many others too. Should he have gotten that report from all of them too?

What's been said is about Paul! The self proclaimed disciple of your god who never met him but got approval from the church fathers even more than the combination of the other 12!



Abeg if what you type above is true, then Jesus has no power of his own. All he had was a derived power! That's why he didn't know the hour even with all the authority given to him!

The father loves the son yet didn't show him the hour! But you claim he shows him all he does! Maybe not all he plans sha!

Master liar!
We Sabi Una!
Cover up one lie with another one!
Wetin I Sabi be say

your pedophile prophet that had mental illness.
Mohammad belongs to the worst among human kind, he was a rapist, a pedophile, a theif even his followers accused him (allah couldnt expose the thief because it was mohammad), a caravan rubber, an idolater, an adulterer and a killer.

The Koran is a very stupid book that contradicts reality. The stupid revelation of Allah said ant can talk, it said the sperm comes from the back bone of a man, the sun sits on a hot spring of muddy water, it is a book of sex and blood shed.
Laslas aisha became a whor.e after enduring years of rape from the pig Mohammad.

Allah aljana is worst than a brothel, it is steady sex forever ( endless penis and vagina of 72 houris) even homosexuality is there and also you drink alcohol in Jana.
Islam is worship of Satan. Is Allah not called the best of all decievers meaning he is the devil in disguise.

Steep:
your pedophile prophet that had mental illness.
Mohammad belongs to the worst among human kind, he was a rapist, a pedophile, a theif even his followers accused him (allah couldnt expose the thief because it was mohammad), a caravan rubber, an idolater, an adulterer and a killer.

The Koran is a very stupid book that contradicts reality. The stupid revelation of Allah said ant can talk, it said the sperm comes from the back bone of a man, the sun sits on a hot spring of muddy water, it is a book of sex and blood shed.
Laslas aisha became a whor.e after enduring years of rape from the pig Mohammad.

Allah aljana is worst than a brothel, it is steady sex forever ( endless penis and vagina of 72 houris) even homosexuality is there and also you drink alcohol in Jana.
Islam is worship of Satan. Is Allah not called the best of all decievers meaning he is the devil in disguise.

Lol... So it's true Allah called himself the best of deceivers??😂

Steep:
your pedophile prophet that had mental illness.
Mohammad belongs to the worst among human kind, he was a rapist, a pedophile, a theif even his followers accused him (allah couldnt expose the thief because it was mohammad), a caravan rubber, an idolater, an adulterer and a killer.

Jesus too had his family call him mad. Was he truly mad then? Pedophilia is supported by your Bible in Numbers 31:17-18! The Bible supports rape and pillage after genocide! You can read Numbers 31:17-18 and 1 Samuel 15:3.

All these are supported three God trinity with Jesus!

The Koran is a very stupid book that contradicts reality. The stupid revelation of Allah said ant can talk, it said the sperm comes from the back bone of a man, the sun sits on a hot spring of muddy water, it is a book of sex and blood shed.
Laslas aisha became a whor.e after enduring years of rape from the pig Mohammad.

Allah aljana is worst than a brothel, it is steady sex forever ( endless penis and vagina of 72 houris) even homosexuality is there and also you drink alcohol in Jana.
Islam is worship of Satan. Is Allah not called the best of all decievers meaning he is the devil in disguise.

All these just shows you suffer from encephalopathy! There's even just not one sense at all in everything you typed here! Holy Spirit inspired nonsense!

obonujoker:
Lol... So it's true Allah called himself the best of deceivers??😂

yes, Islam is a satanic religion

TenQ:
Who told you that Allah told Mohammed anything?

You should tell us the source of everything in the Qur'an and Sunnah with their corresponding reference 1446 years ago?

Which Allah told Mohammed anything if he did?

Same Allah that sent Jesus, John the baptist, Zechariah and others!

What is the evidence that the Creator communicated with Mohammad?

The evidence is in the Qur'an that was revealed to him. It's just that you have no eyes and ears!

Read again!
1. Whatever the Father does, Jesus does!
2. There is nothing the Father does that Jesus doesn't know.

So when Jesus died the father too had died? What a senseless analogy![/quote]It certainly pains you!
It's the same scripture you quoted half way that is causing you epilepsy: too bad![/quote]Nothing pains me that you lack eyes and ears!

Whatever the father does Jesus does! When Jesus sleeps the father too had slept! When Jesus wept the father too had wept! When Jesus fasted the father too had done the same! You just keep increasing the poor portrayal of your own form of God![/quote]Mr Anti-christian,
How true is this: that There are several Kaaba at the time of your prophet.
1. Why did you Muslims destroy all but one?
2. How many Kaaba did Ibrahim and Ishmael built in Arabia?
3. Who started the practice of clothing the Kaaba (was it Ibrahim)?

How much of Idolatry did Islam borrow from the pagans of Arabia?[/quote]All these doesn't have references? How many Kaaba was built from the Qur'an?

Holy spirit is not helping you or let's say your holy spirit needs Daddy GO's tea to nourish his body!

I hear say Daddy GO don apologize that not paying tithes won't lead to hell again? Holy spirit don cancel that lie!

Steep:
yes, Islam is a satanic religion

So Mohammad deceived his followers then .. No wonder he said he'll have to go to hell first, and he purified before he can enter paradise 🙂

AntiChristian:
Jesus too had his family call him mad. Was he truly mad then? Pedophilia is supported by your Bible in Numbers 31:17-18! The Bible supports rape and pillage after genocide! You can read Numbers 31:17-18 and 1 Samuel 15:3.

Mohammad demonstrate signs of Madness.
No evidence

All these are supported three God trinity with Jesus!



All these just shows you suffer from encephalopathy! There's even just not one sense at all in everything you typed here! Holy Spirit inspired nonsense!

Steep:
Mohammad demonstrate signs of Madness.
No evidence

If your mum and sisters/brothers says you're mad shouldn't we believe them?

Read Mark 3:21....Read a little further then you'll see his mum trying to get hold of him!

AntiChristian:
If your mum and sisters/brothers says you're mad shouldn't we believe them?

Read Mark 3:21....Read a little further then you'll see his mum trying to get hold of him!

Mohammad companions said Mohammad is a theif, who knows Mohammad better than his companions evidence was the spead allah immediately gave revelation to Mohammad by simply denying it without revealing who stole the under wear.

The are clearly mistaken about Jesus or were just trying to protect Jesus from the elders.

If Mohammad didn't display evidence of madness they we would have Said his companions were wrong but alas Mohammad was clearly displaying those signs.

Steep:
Mohammad companions said Mohammad is a theif, who knows Mohammad better than his companions evidence was the spead allah immediately gave revelation to Mohammad by simply denying it without revealing who stole the under wear.

What's the name of the companion? Can you tell us the full gist of the accusation and the evidence?

They are clearly mistaken about Jesus or were just trying to protect Jesus from the elders.

If Mohammad didn't display evidence of madness they we would have Said his companions were wrong but alas Mohammad was clearly displaying those signs.

If your mum, sisters and brothers says you are mad then definitely you are mad! There's no doubt about this!

Your companions can betray you or tell lies on you!

AntiChristian:
You should tell us the source of everything in the Qur'an and Sunnah with their corresponding reference 1446 years ago?

The question was simple: Who told you that Allah told Mohammed anything?

AntiChristian:
Same Allah that sent Jesus, John the baptist, Zechariah and others!

Allah just simply mean DEITY: the question is which Deity. Is this Allah YHWH or this Allah is Zeus or this Allah is LAH?

AntiChristian:
The evidence is in the Qur'an that was revealed to him. It's just that you have no eyes and ears!

How do you know that the Qur'an was revealed to him. Did any one witness Jibril giving the message of the Qur'an? Unfortunately, the errors in the Qur'an is a proof that this cannot be the Creator.

AntiChristian:
So when Jesus died the father too had died? What a senseless analogy!
It certainly pains you!
It's the same scripture you quoted half way that is causing you epilepsy: too bad! Nothing pains me that you lack eyes and ears!

Whatever the father does Jesus does! When Jesus sleeps the father too had slept! When Jesus wept the father too had wept! When Jesus fasted the father too had done the same! You just keep increasing the poor portrayal of your own form of God!

So, you see how you manufacture lies again: it's your nature.
Did you read that Jesus said that the Father does whatever He does as Jesus or the reverse?

AntiChristian:
Mr Anti-christian,
How true is this: that There are several Kaaba at the time of your prophet.
1. Why did you Muslims destroy all but one?
2. How many Kaaba did Ibrahim and Ishmael built in Arabia?
3. Who started the practice of clothing the Kaaba (was it Ibrahim)?

How much of Idolatry did Islam borrow from the pagans of Arabia?

All these doesn't have references? How many Kaaba was built from the Qur'an?

Holy spirit is not helping you or let's say your holy spirit needs Daddy GO's tea to nourish his body!

Let me help you with a list of Kaaba at the time of your prophet.
The Kaaba in Mecca
The Kaaba of Dhul-Khalasa
The Kaaba of Najran
The Kaaba of al-Lat in Ta'if
The Kaaba of Yathrib (Medina)
The Sanctuary of Manat
Again:
1. Why did you Muslims destroy all but one?
2. How many Kaaba did Ibrahim and Ishmael built in Arabia?
3. Who started the practice of clothing the Kaaba (was it Ibrahim)?

How much of Idolatry did Islam borrow from the pagans of Arabia?

AntiChristian:
I hear say Daddy GO don apologize that not paying tithes won't lead to hell again? Holy spirit don cancel that lie!

At least , he came out to admit that he was wrong AND the Bible did not teach what he said. This is unlike your character as Muslims, can Muslims ever admit that they were wrong!? No!
Rather, Muslims will fabricate further lies to cover up previous lies.
Lk 15:7
"I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who turns to God from his sins than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need to repent."

Pastor Adeboye is a human being and all humans can commit sin. He is forgiven BUT you remain in your Idolatry and worship of Iblis!

I am sure that you are pained again by this scripture
Prov 28:13
"He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whoever confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy."

Sand2022:
Yes, as a human he had some limitations. Notice that at Luke 2:52, he is said to be increasing in wisdom and physical stature. Jesus while in heaven had complete knowledge, but as a man, he had some limitations.

However, what's your thoughts about his sustaining ALL things. Does that sound like what a creature can do?

Revelations 3:12; "Him that overcome will I make a pillar in the Temple of My God..." He probably said that as a human when He was in heaven, right? Or you're saying Almighty God has a God?

God is the universal consciousness..not a Jewish man...up in the sky


Jesus is just a character in a book..don't be deceived.

AntiChristian:
What's the name of the companion? Can you tell us the full gist of the accusation and the evidence?

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

The verse "And no Prophet could (ever) be false to his trust" was revealed about a red velvet. When it was found missing on the day of Badr, some people said; Perhaps the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) has taken it. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down "And no prophet could (ever) be false to his trust" to the end of the verse.

If your mum, sisters and brothers says you are mad then definitely you are mad! There's no doubt about this!

No it means they they do not understand is actions.

Mohammad on the other hand demonstrated the symptoms of insanity

Your companions can betray you or tell lies on you!

Why couldn't allah expose the person who stole it, if it is not Mohammad

Steep:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

The verse "And no Prophet could (ever) be false to his trust" was revealed about a red velvet. When it was found missing on the day of Badr, some people said; Perhaps the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) has taken it. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down "And no prophet could (ever) be false to his trust" to the end of the verse.

What does "perhaps" above mean? Did they saw him take the cloth?

No it means they they do not understand is actions. When your family accuses you of madness that means you need to be tied and send to Yaba straight!

[b]Mohammad on the other hand demonstrated the symptoms of insanity

Why couldn't allah expose the person who stole it, if it is not Mohammad[/quote]The same symptoms Jesus demonstrated that he was called mad for. Allah is exposing your madness here now and very soon your folks will take you to Yaba!

Sand2022:
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Guy i have told you countless times not to mention me again until you tell me the name of your church and what your church teaches.
There are thousands of churches today and they are not teaching the same thing so if your church teaches one thing it's just another kind of teaching which sounds appealing to members.
So what is the name of your church and what is your church stand on the matter?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i have told you countless times not to mention me again until you tell me the name of your church and what your church teaches.
There are thousands of churches today and they are not teaching the same thing so if your church teaches one thing it's just another kind of teaching which sounds appealing to members.
So what is the name of your church and what is your church stand on the matter?

The same Sand2022 right just to throw him under the bus since your fraud of a one line of thought don't exist in your midst

achorladey:
The same Sand2022 right just to throw him under the bus since your fraud of a one line of thought don't exist in your midst

You i can understand but him please let him speak!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i have told you countless times not to mention me again until you tell me the name of your church and what your church teaches.
There are thousands of churches today and they are not teaching the same thing so if your church teaches one thing it's just another kind of teaching which sounds appealing to members.
So what is the name of your church and what is your church stand on the matter?

l have told you my church : General Assembly Church of the Firstborn. Motto: Heb. 12:23

That doesn't matter but my purpose on this platform as spelt out in the signature.

Who dey follow this one yan?
Abeg comot for my face no be you we dey talk!

MightySparrow:
l have told you my church my church : General Assembly Church of the Firstborn. Motto: Heb. 12:23
That doesn't matter but my purpose on this platform as spelt out in the signature.

MaxInDHouse:
You i can understand but him please let him speak!

Your madness and insanities peddling brains won't allow you to accept whatever he says because you have to turn it into lies and manipulations to look good. The other thread he created regarding the trinity doctrine his response are captured well.

You madness and insanities peddling brains jumped into it calling him all sorts of name. Here is your madness and insanities peddling brains again asking the name of his church.

There are thousands of churches today and they are not teaching the same thing so if your church teaches one thing it's just another kind of teaching which sounds appealing to members.

The same thousands of churches your madness and insanities peddling brains called Satan's agent, conflicting and contradictory doctrines. The essence of asking is to bring succour to your lies and manipulations filled brains.

Sand2022:
We will look at col 1:17
Colossians 1:17 He existed before everything else began, and he holds all creation together.

A creature cannot possibly do that. Heb 1:3 tells us more.

Hebrews 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high

Evidences abound in the scripture that Jesus is God Almighty.

AntiChristian:
Paul said all those not Jesus!

And Paul never met Jesus!

We don't even know who he's referring to!

Jesus himself said by himself he can do nothing!

God no fit do anything by himself!

This is very interesting!

So, you agreed that Jesus whom Allah gave the Injil(meaning Good News) actually have his words penned down.

Well, complete that statement Jesus said, 'himself can't do nothing but ONLY WHAT HE SEES THE FATHER DOING'

This shows that God is a FATHER and Allah lied through his Quran that God isn't a Father.

achorladey:
Your madness and insanities peddling brains won't allow you to accept whatever he says because you have to turn it into lies and manipulations to look good. The other thread he created regarding the trinity doctrine his response are captured well.
You madness and insanities peddling brains jumped into it calling him all sorts of name. Here is your madness and insanities peddling brains again asking the name of his church. The same thousands of churches your madness and insanities peddling brains called Satan's agent, conflicting and contradictory doctrines. The essence of asking is to bring succour to your lies and manipulations filled brains.

Hmmmmmmmmmm i can understand!

AntiChristian:
What does "perhaps" above mean? Did they saw him take the cloth?

No it means they they do not understand is actions. When your family accuses you of madness that means you need to be tied and send to Yaba straight!

[b]Mohammad on the other hand demonstrated the symptoms of insanity

Why couldn't allah expose the person who stole it, if it is not Mohammad

The same symptoms Jesus demonstrated that he was called mad for. Allah is exposing your madness here now and very soon your folks will take you to Yaba!

There is no single evidence about what they said about Jesus.
But however, for pedophile Mohammad evidence full ground

Is it true that Muhammad of Islam washed his mouth using water from a pond where people used to wash menstrual clothes and other stuff? I admire him for not having any ego.
Yes it is true. And this hadith grade is hasan sahih.


And as it says,there were dead dogs in that water too. Its extremely dangerous to wash your mouth with such dirty water due to deadly parasites. Calling such filthy water pure proves that Mohammad was severely mentally ill


Why did Muhammad jump into a small puddle where dead dogs and rags with women’s menstrual blood were dumped?
Why did Mohammad clean himself with water from a small pond where people threw dead dogs, women’s blood from periods and stinking garbage?
Why did Mohammad say that water cannot be defiled when referring to the well that dead dogs and menstrual clothes were thrown into?
Why did Prophet Muhammad fail to understand that diseases can be spread from dirty water and flies?
In Sahih Muslim 1453D Hadith, Prophet Muhammad advises a lady to let an adult man suckle her breasts so that he becomes her son? Is this true and what sort of nonsense advise is this? (Sahih Muslim is considered an authentic source. )
Yes he did. Only lunatics can do such things. There are some strange things Muhammad did that no Muslim will ever want to talk about. Muhammad committed crimes, and he knew they were not from God.The Hadiths, the second holiest book in Islam, basically instruct Muslims to pursue Islam at their own peril. A 54 year old Muhammad had sexual desires for a four to six year old girl and Muslim are trying to justify it to keep Islam alive.

“Sunan an-Nasa'i 326

It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said:

"It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"



Which sane person would do this.