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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:00pm On Oct 17, 2024
lovewins:
If teams have been getting Uyo clearance (including the Libyans), it already shows getting a clearance isn't the problem. The NFF were not aware because they were not carried along. Let's assume the Libyans encountered difficulties like they claim, did they reach out to the NFF in earnest to get this sorted? They obviously got the PH clearance at least a day prior so that could have been easily sorted since the NFF got them the Uyo clearance within hours of notice.

So the issue here is the Libyans didn't carry the NFF along. And like I posited earlier, it's possible they did this intentionally because they needed legitimacy for how they intended to treat the super eagles.
That is why I said the NFF needs to sort this out. The should also make this public for our image. Let us really know what happened.

Well I believe the CAF report will clarify things but this could have been avoided.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:00pm On Oct 17, 2024
JohnBullMySon:
According to NFF, they were told Uyo. Which aligns with Libyas intent to arrive at Uyo.

This is how things should flow normally

Libya FA tells NFF of Uyo arrival

NFF tells Customs, Immigration, DSS to make arrangements

Customs, Immigration, DSS tell NCAA to approve permit


somewhere in the bolded something went wrong
Like you said, getting a landing permit for an international flight is a long bureaucratic process.. And you also admitted that the NFF were not aware that the landing permit for the Libyans was not approved until they (Libyans) were airborne...

So, what exactly is the problem?
Where exactly did the NFF get it wrong?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:02pm On Oct 17, 2024
TheGoodJoe:
That is why I said the NFF needs to sort this out. The should also make this public for our image. Let us really know what happened.

Well I believe the CAF report will clarify things but this could have been avoided.
NFF should let us know what really happened??
So you mean, the 20 points explanation that you have been analysing since doesn't satisfy you?
Even if the NFF call a press conference right now and repeat all they already posted on their socials, you won't be satisfied...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:05pm On Oct 17, 2024
Danielnino00:
NFF should let us know what really happened??
So you mean, the 20 points explanation that you have been analysing since doesn't satisfy you?
Even if the NFF call a press conference right now and repeat all they already posted on their socials, you won't be satisfied...
The 20 point explanation was more focused on the ordeal of the Nigerian team. There needs to be clarification of the ordeal of the Libyans that generated this issue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:08pm On Oct 17, 2024
Musa's goal vs Ranger...


If he keeps scoring, there will definitely be clamour for him to be recalled to the super Eagles...
I hope he makes the CHAN team

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17mfyT88RE/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:14pm On Oct 17, 2024
Danielnino00:
Musa's goal vs Ranger...


If he keeps scoring, there will definitely be clamour for him to be recalled to the super Eagles...
I hope he makes the CHAN team

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17mfyT88RE/
He will bring much needed morale to the CHAN team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:22pm On Oct 17, 2024
AndSunGorilla:
Someone had insinuated that the the Libyans were not cleared to land at Uyo directly because Uyo is not an international Airport hence the reason they had to land at PH. Is there any truth to that?
can’t be true, they aren’t the first team to come to Uyo for a game
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins: 1:25pm On Oct 17, 2024
JohnBullMySon:
I have said to you here before that you like to argue before you read. I wrote here earlier that I feel like due to the long bureaucracy, miscommunication or negligence occurred midway. How is that too difficult to understand?

I can bet you that Nigerian officials are the ones making those arrangements with federal agencies. NCAA must hear from the feds before they approve any non scheduled international flight to a non international airport.
Baba no be fight, don't make assumptions about my person without facts. It's a conversation and you are free to disagree with me. I was responding to a specific post you made and have no idea what you said earlier no should I since I wasn't specifically speaking to them. My response was specifically to the one you made and nothing.more. if you needed to add context then do so without getting unnecessary personal.

Visitors typically make their arrangements with Immigration and NCAA themselves. It's typical to only involve the host should to either hasten the process or should the agency in charge prove difficult to deal with. The later didn't happen because Libya didn't carry the NFF along. Of course said agency will likely reach out to the NFF to verify the request made by the visitors but that's pretty much it until there's is a need to get further involved.

Shouldn't one also assume that for the NFF to send delegation to receive the Libyans at the Uyo airport, that is what they were privy to as participant of said process and only knew of the PH diversion after they were told?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:34pm On Oct 17, 2024
Odunayaw:
That senior man na legend
Walahi, ko ye mi. La fun mi tan edakun.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins:
JohnBullMySon:
You did not understand the point.

Point one means that the flight crew mistook it to be an international airport. It is a healthy assumption to say that Libyan officals themselves may not be aware of aviation details. It is up to the NFF who have done these in the past to ensure they secure customs and immmigration to give approval.

As for point two, the NFF communications director has already stated that they were not aware that the Libyan FA did not have clearance until they were informed that their landing permit was not approved by NCAA. But they knew that they were coming so they sent their officials to Uyo.

As for the bolded, you cannot expect Libya, a visitor, to be the ones petitioning Customs, Immigration and DSS for special arrangements at uyo. What then is the job of the host?
No sir

No airline takes off without a predetermined destination. They have a flight plan they stick to. What that means is that Libya knew before taking off (at least a day prior) that they were going to land in Port Harcourt. They didn't discover that while in the air. So you saying "the Libyans didn't know flying to Uyo requires a special clearance" presupposes that they had an intention to fly to Uyo after getting to PH which is the point I was making. So if they had plans to fly from PH to Uyo since they had felt they wouldn't require a special clearance like you affirmed, then they wouldn't have refused to after the NFF got them said clearance.

2. Libyans aren't novices to the process is my point. The Libyan FA have had to make same arrangement for 2 of their club sides that flew directly to Uyo without issues. How did issues suddenly arise when it involved their own national team? And no I don't expect them to petition the said agencies, I only expect them to Inform the NFF of the difficulty they faced well before they travelled so it's sorted and not a few hours to landing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:51pm On Oct 17, 2024
AndSunGorilla:
Walahi, ko ye mi. La fun mi tan edakun.
cheesy He is trying to spin that Libya's misadventure to PH was because of some sort of issue on our part.

Alagidi ni egbon yen
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:52pm On Oct 17, 2024
lovewins:
No sir

No airline takes off without a predetermined destination. They have a flight plan they stick to. What that means is that Libya knew before taking off (at least a day prior) that they were going to land in Port Harcourt. They didn't discover that while in the air. So you saying "the Libyans didn't know flying requires a special clearance" presupposes that they had an intention to fly to Uyo after getting to PH which is the point I was making. So if they had plans to fly from PH to Uyo since they had felt they wouldn't require a special clearance like you affirmed, then they wouldn't have refused to after the NFF got them said clearance.

2. Libyans aren't novices to the process is my point. The Libyan FA have had to make same arrangement for 2 of their club sides that flew directly to Uyo without issues. How did issues suddenly arise when it involved their own national team? And no I don't expect them to petition th SE agencies, I only expect them to Inform the NFF of the difficulty they faced well before they travelled so it's sorted and not a few hours to landing.
Bro no worry yourself again. At least we don't have any more doubts on the quality of their logic
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:27pm On Oct 17, 2024
Odunayaw:
cheesy He is trying to spin that Libya's misadventure to PH was because of some sort of issue on our part.

Alagidi ni egbon yen
Thanks boss. Meanwhile is Shehu Abdullahi also playing for Kano Pillars? I have only been hearing about Ahmed Musa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 2:40pm On Oct 17, 2024
TheGoodJoe:
Nice.

However, I am pointing about the protocol team of the NFF. If they could not get the money for instance, did they "TRY TO" reach out to people to get alternative support. The NFF should have done so and filled in the Libyans on it. This should have made the correspondence notes. If they couldn't, they earlier requested for buses. If they had trust issues, I don't think they would have made the request earlier.

As for rejecting the buses, the NFF also needs to elucidate us on this. What was their reason of denial when one fo their grievances is us not providing good buses. Was it also a charter issue. If it was, it should be cleared.

We need facts, not assumptions.
I think they'll take correction next time by reaching out to you for financial support to help stranded visiting teams.

On behalf of the NFF, we are sorry for not meeting with you to foot the bill for the Libyans, we promise going forward such mistakes will never occur again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 2:50pm On Oct 17, 2024
daveP:
If anybody here has access to the Nigerian Supporters Club, pls i think it is time you make them aware that we're no longer in the 90s and that they need to add modern ideas to their representation all over.

Let them add new, fresh air stuff(gestures, solidarity, unifying choreography) to their entire package Dem still dey use "he's a miracle working God" till now. Since i was born........
I've not heard any new tune from the band. The NSC don't have moves to make other fans to do gestures together. See fans elsewhere having one leader in front and everyone does what that leader do. From claps to chants to synchronized moves that overall adds ginger to their players on the pitch.


I can boldly say there's some level of disconnect between the fans and most of the players. That needs to change. It needs to be SEEN as well. Fans build atmosphere before games that gives 2 teams goosebumps as they exit the tunnels. That is lacking with ours.


The tunes may not be dumped anytime soon(we too dey shout Change is constant, but we go use time meant for change deliberating on if things should be changed)



Im personally bored whenever i hear those tunes. They don't foster or ginger unity as much as an individual display on the pitch(eh eh eh, oooohhhhhhhh) when a player dribbles.


Abeg. If you sabi anybody wey sabi person wey know what to do to bring fresh air to supporting, allow.


N:B i hope their so called court matter over warring factions is over.

undecided
Maybe they should learn that from Sporting Lagos fans.. Those guys with all the drumming will just come up with the chorus "Lets go Sporting, Let's go".
Even that doesnt stopped them from relegating 😂😂😂 I loved it then sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 3:18pm On Oct 17, 2024
kingphilip:
I think they'll take correction next time by reaching out to you for financial support to help stranded visiting teams.

On behalf of the NFF, we are sorry for not meeting with you to foot the bill for the Libyans, we promise going forward such mistakes will never occur again.
Well said. I think going forward We should have a commitee headed by TheGoodJoe to be reaching out to people sourcing for fund so as this shameful act wont repeat itself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:19pm On Oct 17, 2024
Na wa. grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Goke7: 3:30pm On Oct 17, 2024
Tessyy1701:
Well said. I think going forward We should have a commitee headed by TheGoodJoe to be reaching out to people sourcing for fund so as this shameful act wont repeat itself.
Pls don’t forget to add that he should also mobilise traditional dancers to go and welcome visiting teams at the airport make we have peace of mind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 3:34pm On Oct 17, 2024
Goke7:
Pls don’t forget to add that he should also mobilise traditional dancers to go and welcome visiting teams at the airport make we have peace of mind.
That is certain bro. Contemplating maybe we should be giving stipend to the visiting team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:40pm On Oct 17, 2024
Men. This really looks bad to me.

NFF needs to clear this thing. The maltreatment is bad or am I missing something?

The clearance for Nigeria and Libya looks worrying.


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 3:43pm On Oct 17, 2024
[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=132470647]Men. This really looks bad to me.

NFF needs to clear this thing. The maltreatment is bad or am I missing something?

The clearance for Nigeria and Libya looks worrying.


, where did the SE fly to after their game in Uyo as claimed in the post you quoted?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
AndSunGorilla:
GoodJoe, where did the SE fly to after their game in Uyo as claimed in the post you quoted?
This looks bad to me. I can understand why the Libyans feel maltreated and believe this needs clarification.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:53pm On Oct 17, 2024
I hope a lot of diplomatic processes takes place to quell the bad blood.

The Libyans feel hurt and in some way I sympathize with them.

I hope the NFF clears this and worked within International best practices with respect to handling foreign footballers.

If not, this incident should serve as a lesson.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kennysville(m): 4:06pm On Oct 17, 2024
Even after 3days, Jesus has already resurrected. He even said it is finished!
GoodJoe say " mba! Your work never finish O. You need to also clarify why you die like that"






You gerritt?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:10pm On Oct 17, 2024
kennysville:
Even after 3days, Jesus has already resurrected. He even said it is finished!
GoodJoe say " mba! Your work never finish O. You need to also clarify why you die like that"

You gerritt?
Live your life. You came to the world without me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:13pm On Oct 17, 2024
AndSunGorilla:
GoodJoe, where did the SE fly to after their game in Uyo as claimed in the post you quoted?
Thank you. On review, you are spot on and I think it is a case of miscommunication. I don't know if it is language barrier or something.

I have also noticed the Libyans have a victim mentality. Maybe because they are so pampered in their country that the feel sleighted at hitches.

Well I pray it ends well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by toluxe0075: 4:27pm On Oct 17, 2024
You people should move on from this Libya misadventure. Even the affected players are now at their various clubs ready to dazzle this weekend. Lessons have already been learnt. Move on. Move on. Move on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins: 4:32pm On Oct 17, 2024
TheGoodJoe:
Thank you. On review, you are spot on and I think it is a case of miscommunication. I don't know if it is language barrier or something.

I have also noticed the Libyans have a victim mentality. Maybe because they are so pampered in their country that the feel sleighted at hitches.

Well I pray it ends well.
You're helping to spread the misinformation by making assumptions based on every BS that suggests the Libyans were mistreated. To make it more dramatic, said poster claimed the Nigerian players jist passed through immigration without checks. Wouldn't that mean that Nigeria left for Libya same time as the Libyan team (which didn't happen).

The mistreatment captured is them having their bags checked, something every national team goes through whenever they visit another country.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:52pm On Oct 17, 2024
lovewins:
You're helping to spread the misinformation by making assumptions based on every BS that suggests the Libyans were mistreated. To make it more dramatic, said poster claimed the Nigerian players jist passed through immigration without checks. Wouldn't that mean that Nigeria left for Libya same time as the Libyan team (which didn't happen).

The mistreatment captured is them having their bags checked, something every national team goes through whenever they visit another country.

It's on social media. Twitter has millions of viewers. So I wonder how my post is so vilifying.

I am also trying to see things from their perspective, which is actually the best way to address people's concerns.

I hope we polish it and the NFF clears things with the LFF. I also hope we clarify things with the Eastern government in Benghazi soon before another set of our players head out there.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:53pm On Oct 17, 2024
lovewins:
You're helping to spread the misinformation by making assumptions based on every BS that suggests the Libyans were mistreated. To make it more dramatic, said poster claimed the Nigerian players jist passed through immigration without checks. Wouldn't that mean that Nigeria left for Libya same time as the Libyan team (which didn't happen).

The mistreatment captured is them having their bags checked, something every national team goes through whenever they visit another country.
Either way, thanks for your point. You are right that it is a sensitive issue and should be handled delicately. I will be more cautious next time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:55pm On Oct 17, 2024
toluxe0075:
You people should move on from this Libya misadventure. Even the affected players are now at their various clubs ready to dazzle this weekend. Lessons have already been learnt. Move on. Move on. Move on.


I hope the bolded is true but feel there are still areas that needs cleaning.

I also believe such issues should not be easily moved on from because it could reoccur in some other way. Well point noted.
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