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| Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 3:11pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
I read through the thread and observed that many people are thinking the lawyer made a bad decision to have relocated to the UK. Now, let's do the Maths on the matter: considering that the man remains a cleaner throughout or in the next 10 years, he'll still be a cleaner. Average hourly rate in the UK for a cleaner is £11. For a day, if he does £11 x 10 hours (whether cleaner work or something else on the side). That's like £110 a day. Amounting to £110 x 25 days monthly (taking 5 days to rest). That's like £2,750 monthly. Let's say £1,000 for rent, food, and other expenses, which may not be up to that. In a year, he'll make £1,750 x 12 months That's like £21,000 per annum saved. If he decides to stay in the UK for 10 years and return to Nigeria. He'll be coming back with at least £21,000 x 10 years. That's like £210,000. Covert that to Nigerian naira. £210,000 x 2,300 NGN (may be more by then). That's like 483,000,000 NGN. Man can build a small house then flex the remaining until death. Now, I ask you again, did he make the right choice to have left Nigeria? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by budaatum: 3:20pm On Nov 25, 2024*. Modified: 3:02pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Except that your calculation is based on him remaining a cleaner forever. He'd likely be a cleaner for much less than a year, and might be promoted to head cleaner, managing 100s of other cleaners and therefore earning a cleaner manager's wage which might be triple a cleaner's wage an hour. Or he might go to school and become a UK lawyer and earn 100 times what a cleaner earns. Then ask you again, did he make the right choice to have left Nigeria? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by CodeTemplarr: 3:23pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
I doubt he can save €500 a month. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 3:27pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
budaatum:I did the calculation if at all he remains a cleaner for the next 10 years then return to Nigeria, which I know is not possible for him to remain a cleaner. My calculation considers if his condition doesn't improve at all, but it's not possible for him not to change to a better job. So, the people saying he made a bad decision are very wrong. Let's not forget the security and a better quality of life he's going to enjoy there compared to Nigeria. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 3:28pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
CodeTemplarr:What are the basics that people spend on monthly? No be food and rent? Can that consume more than 1k? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by CodeTemplarr: 3:30pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
samuelson06:most likely a family man. Has other bills. Food. Shelter. Healthcare(Insurance inclusive). Transport. Communication. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by ednut1(m): 3:30pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
samuelson06:no cleaner is earning 2750 per month after tax in the UK except industrial cleaners who own the business. The average salary of a cleaner in uk is in the screenshot below. While i was in the UK 2005-2008 there were Nigerians who built houses back home with cleaner, kitchen porter or peke( club work) . Things have become costly now, and in the past those people didn’t come with family so less expenses. They mostly rented one room in a house, no car etc. Today with spousal and dependent visas some came with wife and 4 children. He cannot save anything . He may be working towards his legal license so he wont remain a cleaner for ever. Na him know wetin hin eye see. Many business owners are not getting jobs/ contracts so they fled before its too later
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| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 3:49pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
ednut1:But even that £19k isn't bad. If you know what you are going for, you won't bother relocating with your family. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by ednut1(m): 3:53pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
samuelson06:the selling point of the UK immigration was dependants being able to come before they stopped it this year. Most people went on student visa with their spouse being able to work full time. In summary your assumptions above are not correct 😁 |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Puss360(f): 3:59pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Lol.. op your calculation is good but heavily flawed!!!.. Rent alone can take as much as £500 per month.. Electric/ gas £100( more during winter) Internet, transportation, water £150 Feeding £300 Govt tax £962 approx( around 35% of Ur total income) Total £2012... You are left with £738.. All these calculation is if u have nobody back home that's depending on you o... If you do, then you'll be sending something home monthly.. lol |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Mindlog: 4:11pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
samuelson06:Below is the realistic take home pay with a £2,750 monthly pay.
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| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Truths9ja: 4:21pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Mindlog:bro he make the best choice. Within a year or two, he will gather more money to have his law chambers in Uk 🇬🇧 too. Everything will work according to plans |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Mindlog: 4:25pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Truths9ja:I know he made the best choice, I also did and now in a professional role that offers job security and stability. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Truths9ja: 4:35pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Mindlog:what really makes you to be successful cos’ you are very determined and also never give up niiii. You are much focus to reached your goals |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Mindlog: 4:47pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Truths9ja:Yes, I was hyperfocused. When I arrived Heathrow Airport, London and was heading to the city where my university is, I said to myself I would direct effort towards acquiring skills that would bring me permanently back to London to work as a professional in the local government service that offers better pay and welfare packages...........I went through the labyrinths of different jobs, personally paid for trainings and finally got employed by a London borough (local government). |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 5:04pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Mindlog:Regardless, are you guys saying it's not possible to save 1k monthly? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 5:06pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Mindlog:What did you start with as a job, bro? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 5:07pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Mindlog:Can you recommend a skill for me? When did you enter the UK? PG or BSc program? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 5:18pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
By the way, why Nigerians prefer the UK to other countries? Any specific reason to this? |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by ednut1(m): 5:52pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
samuelson06:no language barrier. Then uk opened the door to immigrants after covid, they granted lots of Nigerians study visa, work visas etc. The promo has ended sha |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Mindlog: 8:40pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
ednut1:😂😂😂😂 |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Factcheck0001: 9:02pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
samuelson06:UK doesn't have problem Just have money n come in |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by MrAmbrose(m): 1:50am On Nov 26, 2024 |
Old news |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by idahme(m): 7:06am On Nov 26, 2024 |
This guy them no dey pay tax? Be calming down ooo . This is not how Uk is. ![]() Just like the other dude was saying the amount he may be saving is 500 pounds monthly and not that amount you quoted. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Gerrard59(m): 8:39am On Nov 26, 2024 |
ednut1:Honestly, unless the breadwinner - usually the man - gets a high paying job or a sales related job, it won't be easy to make up for the expenses incurred in the japa process as expenses while residing in the UK climb up. Also, most sold their properties and Nigerian based investments. No wonder one Nairalander stated most won't return to Nigeria until after a decade or fifteen years. I never knew it could be like this. He may be working towards his legal license so he wont remain a cleaner for ever. Na him know wetin hin eye see. Many business owners are not getting jobs/ contracts so they fled before its too laterNo be small thing o ![]() |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Bigkenny: 8:03am On Nov 27, 2024 |
samuelson06:Your maths doesn't add up. First of all, a full-time job is 8 hours per day. Also, you never mentioned taxes, medical insurance, and other associated deductions that will chop the salary by 30% or over. Also, you never factor in feeding, accommodation, and other bills. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 8:34am On Nov 27, 2024 |
Bigkenny:Yea. I didn't itemize those expenses individually but I assumed 1k could take care of them. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by Bigkenny: 12:46am On Nov 28, 2024 |
samuelson06:Nope, he or she will pay at least 1686 pounds tax on income of 21000 pounds. See income tax rates below. Band Taxable income Tax rate Personal Allowance Up to £12,570 0% Basic rate £12,571 to £50,270 20% Higher rate £50,271 to £125,140 40% Additional rate over £125,140 45% He or she will also pay the National insurance. Don't forget about rent, feeding, and phone bills. Even if you rent just a room and live outside London, it will cost you more than 4000 pounds a year. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by studyless123: 2:24am On Nov 28, 2024 |
samuelson06:Too many fallacies. |
| Re: Re: Japa: Senior Lawyer Shuts Down Chamber To Become A Cleaner... [do The Maths] by samuelson06(op): 3:14am On Nov 28, 2024 |
studyless123:My bad! I was just doing a rough estimation. |
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